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Re: Fox's Goodman: Coaching Carousel List
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2011, 02:48:26 PM »
MU has taken chances on SOME kids (those that had a lot of talent)...but within reason. I agree with MU84 that there is another way and MU proved that in 2006 with freshmen playing key roles, two making all Big East.  UCONN did the same this year with freshmen. I don't understand why you think "doing it another way" is pure BS?  Please explain. 

You guys should watch the HBO special on UNLV currently running.  There's a program that took risks on just about everyone.  I don't think MU was in that same regard.  Perhaps you disagree.

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Re: Fox's Goodman: Coaching Carousel List
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2011, 05:34:51 PM »
MU84--Your words speak for themselves.  I am extremely proud of what Marquette and Marquette Warrior basketball HAS ALWAYS stood for.  This "there is another way" scenario is complete and absolute BS to use your words.  MU has always given these kids a chance:  Al was a color barrier buster, he loved the underdog, and he stayed with them in life.  MU is not just about DuPage County, Orange County, the North Shore or the fields of Mequon. It has always been about "Hoop Dreams" and "Cracked Sidewalks"...a place where few other schools would give these kids a chance.  Any dispersions otherwise is a slap in the face for what MU stands for.  To even suggest that MU's academic reputation would be tarnished by kids who have only worked their fannies off, have earned degrees (and in many cases advanced degrees) and have been fantastic representatives of our university is one of the most off base comments I have ever seen on this board. I know your intent is not what is implied, but you really should go back to read and edit your words. They are offensive as they stand...and I am not a PC type.

I have not said anything negative about the character, work ethic, degree status, etc. of ANY current or past Marquette player--juco or otherwise--and I resent your insinuation to the contrary.


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Re: Fox's Goodman: Coaching Carousel List
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2011, 06:47:13 AM »
I said that 2 weeks ago?  Wow...who knew.


Yes, 9 years later Jim Les is out.  Happens all the time.  Paul Hewitt went to a Final Four with Georgia Tech...he's gone. Mike Davis went to the championship game at Indiana...he's gone.  Steve Lavin make it to 6 straight Sweet 16's...he was fired.  The longer you go at one job, the honeymoon wears off. 

Do you think Buzz will be here for 9 years?  Odds are, he won't.   

Note I also said I would have loved for MU to consider Stallings and others.  As I think even you will admit, situations are different everywhere.  One guy may fail in one location and do a great job at another.  Can you predict outcomes?  Maybe if Buzz stayed at New Orleans they would still be in DI.  We don't know.  Maybe if KO never left MU we would be playing in our 18th straight NCAA tournament.  We don't know.  Maybe if Bob Knight took the Wisconsin job (yes, he was offered it and accepted before backing out) they would be one of the top 5 programs of all time.  Maybe if John Wooden had taken the Minnesota job (yes, he was offered it) instead of UCLA....you get the idea.

We can play this game all day.  No Little League today, I'm game.  Let's have fun...what you got?



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Re: Fox's Goodman: Coaching Carousel List
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2011, 07:51:33 AM »
MU has taken chances on SOME kids (those that had a lot of talent)...but within reason. I agree with MU84 that there is another way and MU proved that in 2006 with freshmen playing key roles, two making all Big East.  UCONN did the same this year with freshmen. I don't understand why you think "doing it another way" is pure BS?  Please explain. 

You guys should watch the HBO special on UNLV currently running.  There's a program that took risks on just about everyone.  I don't think MU was in that same regard.  Perhaps you disagree.
oh come on.  Talk about a reach.  They also have the likely National Player of the Year.  That kind of dynamic talent hides a lot of the warts of the freshmen.  If they didn't have Mr. Walker, they wouldn't be nearly as good as they are and probably would be on the outside looking in regarding the NCAA Tournament.  It that "doing it another way"?

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Re: Fox's Goodman: Coaching Carousel List
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2011, 08:05:51 AM »
oh come on.  Talk about a reach.  They also have the likely National Player of the Year.  That kind of dynamic talent hides a lot of the warts of the freshmen.  If they didn't have Mr. Walker, they wouldn't be nearly as good as they are and probably would be on the outside looking in regarding the NCAA Tournament.  It that "doing it another way"?


If a team has an upperclassman who also happens to be one of the best players in the conference and/or country (like MU with Novak or UConn with Walker) and brings in a handful of highly-touted freshmen, that would be considered "doing it another way." Unfortunately, that's not an easy scenario to create seeing as though the cards really need to fall the right way to even be in that position. Calipari's strategy would also be considered "doing it another way" but I don't think many MU fans are clamoring for that.

Buzz did things his way and I, personally, think it has worked out well for Marquette.

 

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