Figuring We Ain't Done Yet

[6746jonesr]

Why do people believe that Roseboro was run off?  Buzz thought he was a developmental guy, much like our other centers are.  However, once he arrived on campus, it became very clear to him that it was going to be a long time before he was ready for game action.  So, he chose to leave and go to a school where he was likely to be able to get some minutes. 

[kmwtrucks]

Coleman and Cothron, both have attended about 4 different High schools if memory serves, and Many believe that Knator was paid to play when he was In Europe.  The schools recruiting those guys know that it will be a crap shot if the NCAA approves them, and no one said we cooled on any of those guys.  I don't think anybody felt Cothron would come north, I'm guessing that we would have offered Kantor if he would have shown interest, and with Coleman Buzz did offer him.  If people are going to make strong statments it would be nice if they backed them up with a little research before. 

[nyg]

Coleman and Cothron, both have attended about 4 different High schools if memory serves, and Many believe that Knator was paid to play when he was In Europe.  The schools recruiting those guys know that it will be a crap shot if the NCAA approves them, and no one said we cooled on any of those guys.  I don't think anybody felt Cothron would come north, I'm guessing that we would have offered Kantor if he would have shown interest, and with Coleman Buzz did offer him.  If people are going to make strong statments it would be nice if they backed them up with a little research before. 

There were numerous previous threads regarding the academic problems of both Coleman and Cothron.  Kantor was never in the MU mix. 

[Lennys Tap]

Well, the cool guys deserved mocking after claiming Cothron wouldn't qualify therefore MU wouldn't take him. They also said Coleman wouldn't qualify so MU wouldn't take him (even after that "silent verbal"). They also said Kanter wouldn't qualify. All three will play college ball next year. Thus, mocking justified.

Look, the truth is this: all of the recruits have qualified grades. One of the recruits is going to prep school. I describe that as being jettisoned. You don't like the word and that's fine but when you need to lighten the load of a ship in distress you jettison some cargo. That's what is going to happen.

It seems a "last in, first out" scenario with Newbill the most likely candidate. If not him, then Smith. We will also look to sign one more prospect and when that occurs Mbao will be leaving the program. If the three prospects left on the market turn us down, then Newbill and Smith don't need to worry about their prep year.

I don't think you're upset with my thinking (because it seems mostly spot on). You're simply upset with the words I use to describe it. Perhaps if I wrote the players need to earn their spot every day, the jettison word wouldn't bother?

I don't know if you are spot on regarding the facts or not - time will tell. But words mean something, and saying MU "throws people overboard" if they leave or attend a prep school is as negative a spin as one can put on this. Hence my conclusion that you might have an axe to grind with the program or those running it. If I'm wrong, my apologies.

[madtownwarrior]

"Most of my MU friends have no problem with this philosophy..."it is a business" they say.  I thought we were trying educate kids."


nice try putz Butch - maybe look at the graduation rates before making the education comment.   yeah, your football program is full of Rhodes scholars too...


yep, and a kid (Markoff) who played basketball his whole life just suddenly does not find basketball enjoyable.   I guess we know how far your head is up Bo's arse...

[GOO]

What are the graduation rates for UW basketball versus Marquette ball players?

[MuMark]

Did you forget it was a business before or after the Big 10 network was formed for the sole purpose of making more money?



Why is the Big 10 looking at expansion again?

So they can do a better job of "educatiing the kids"? 

[Golden Avalanche]

I don't know if you are spot on regarding the facts or not - time will tell. But words mean something, and saying MU "throws people overboard" if they leave or attend a prep school is as negative a spin as one can put on this. Hence my conclusion that you might have an axe to grind with the program or those running it. If I'm wrong, my apologies.

Haahahhahahahahahaaa........now we know that you take offense at my metaphor, not my content.

You've drummed up this axe of mine over the course of the last two days. I'd ask that you take the time to look back on my 350 or so messages. There are some that are critical. There are some that are constructive. There are some that put down Buzz' coaching. There are some that put up Buzz' coaching. There are some that question the recruiting. There are some that are complimentary of the recruiting. Kind of like a fan who can see both sides.

I'll fully admit I'm not a blind homer like many of the die-hards in this swimming pool. But just because I don't qualify for that boat, doesn't mean I have Paul Bunyan's axe on my right shoulder.

[LON]

Did you forget it was a business before or after the Big 10 network was formed for the sole purpose of making more money?



Why is the Big 10 looking at expansion again?

So they can do a better job of "educatiing the kids"? 

How do I reach these keeeeds...

[BrewCity83]

Auburn? Are you sure on that one?

Auburn produced Brent Fullwood.  IIRC, the Packers were frustrated with him because (among other things) his reading skills were not at a high enough level for him to read the playbook!