Badger Meltdown

[Hards Alumni]

its the Madison Spin Machine...

you know, the MSM

[spartan3186]

Bo Ryan does not belong in the same breath as Gary Williams.  Williams has won a national championship and was one of the best programs in the country a few years ago.  Bo Ryan's record is nothing like that.  Bo was lucky that MU was less attractive in CUSA and Iowa and Minnesota have sucked as Big Ten college town alternatives.  Tubby Smith and MU in the Big East has changed that.  Gary Williams has lost local players, too, but was successful recruiting against all those other solid options out east.  


I also never think of Wisconsin when I think of the top schools in the country. Even in the Midwest, when I think of top schools I think Notre Dame, Northwestern, and U Chicago. Even top public schools, I think Berkeley or UVA or Michigan.  Never Wisco at all.  I think of Wisco, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, etc. as really solid Big Ten schools where you can have a great time and get a good job afterwards.  Which is exactly how I see MU.  MU and Wisco are exactly the same except for the fact that Wisco has professors who do really quality research that MU cannot afford to fund.  The "higher academics" at Wisco argument is a complete joke.

Didn't you know that Bo has actually won four national titles, I mean they were at the D3 level but they are all the same. The badger board tells me so.

[IAmMarquette]

Didn't you know that Bo has actually won four national titles, I mean they were at the D3 level but they are all the same. The badger board tells me so.

Hahaha... I read that and had to laugh. Probably a great selling point for recruits:

"At Wisconsin, you can play for Bo Ryan, Four-Time National Champion*"


*All four titles won in Division III

[MU B2002]

Bo Ryan does not belong in the same breath as Gary Williams.

False.  Allow me to demonstrate...
"When sorting coaches in alphabetical order, Bo Ryan would come before Gary Williams."
One breath.

[GGGG]

I don't want to be the only Bo Ryan defender on here, but the guy can clearly coach.  He has won a pretty much every level of basketball, including at places that were essentially basketball wastelands before he got there.  (Platteville and UWM.)  He just suffers from not really being all that excited about recruiting.

[lurch91]

I don't want to be the only Bo Ryan defender on here, but the guy can clearly coach.  He has won a pretty much every level of basketball, including at places that were essentially basketball wastelands before he got there.  (Platteville and UWM.)  He just suffers from not really being all that excited about recruiting.

+1

The guy can coach, period.  And Tubby Smith is going to eat his lunch on the recruiting trail.  Marquette, Wisconsin and Minnesota never have had winning programs all at the same time because so much of their recruiting base overlaps.  While it might be a down year in terms of wins, Buzz has MU surging, Tubby has Minnesota surging, which leaves Bo running in last in the talent department.

And to the badger faithful that says you don't need talent to win with the Swing - look at how Marquette beat Wisconsin last year.  The swing kept Wisconsin in the game, but at the end it was McNeal's talent and athletic ability that sealed the win for MU.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

+1

The guy can coach, period.  And Tubby Smith is going to eat his lunch on the recruiting trail.  Marquette, Wisconsin and Minnesota never have had winning programs all at the same time because so much of their recruiting base overlaps.  While it might be a down year in terms of wins, Buzz has MU surging, Tubby has Minnesota surging, which leaves Bo running in last in the talent department.

And to the badger faithful that says you don't need talent to win with the Swing - look at how Marquette beat Wisconsin last year.  The swing kept Wisconsin in the game, but at the end it was McNeal's talent and athletic ability that sealed the win for MU.

Tubby Smith could ruin Bo Ryan.

Bo is a great coach, but some of his favorite recruiting areas could dry up.

With this said, Bo is a smart guy and probably is building relationships in areas he hasn't traditionally recruited.

[IAmMarquette]

I won't speak for others on the board, but my post wasn't so much a dig on Bo--because there's no question the guy CAN coach--but a dig on the widespread delusion of the UW fanbase.

[Hards Alumni]

Straight from a Badger fan's mouth today at lunch:

"Maymon wanted to go to UW but he didn't have the grades, so they turned him away."

[Norm]

I've noted this in other posts, but the UW fanbase thinking the school is academically far superior to Marquette is just flat out delusional. I should know - I attended both schools (MU undergrad, UW grad). The type of students at both schools is practically identical. UW has areas of expertise that differ from MU's, and vice versa. Students at both schools get out what they put in - you can get a good education at both schools.

The talk of basketball players getting rejected academically at UW but somehow getting in at MU is laughable.