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Started by mu_hilltopper, April 26, 2009, 03:54:32 PM

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Phi Iota Gamma 84

Darius, junior, aaron, dwight are all guardswith three coming in next year to replace the three leaving.

Don't get ahead on your worrying
There is nothing less productive than doing more efficiently that which should not be done at all-Peter Drucker

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: strobl2 on April 27, 2009, 04:00:18 PM
I guess I'm not against having big men but I don't want to give up having great guards on our roster like seasons past.

Well, one could argue we gave up on having big men in order to have great guards. You have to have both. I know actually getting big guys may take some getting used to around here, but doing so would seem to indicate that the roster is actually balanced, not the other way around. We have had plenty of good guards, but that has not translated into a whole lot in terms of real success (likely impacted by the DJ injury). The last handful of teams playing this year, generally didn't just have good guards, they had good teams.

4everwarriors

It's a big man's game. Good problems to have.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Wareagle

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 27, 2009, 04:11:41 PM
We have had plenty of good guards, but that has not translated into a whole lot in terms of real success (likely impacted by the DJ injury). The last handful of teams playing this year, generally didn't just have good guards, they had good teams.
Truer words have never been spoken on this board. 

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Wareagle on April 27, 2009, 04:26:43 PM
Truer words have never been spoken on this board. 

Of course there were teams like Memphis that had good bigs that got bounced early because they didn't have good guards. 

Wareagle

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 27, 2009, 04:35:20 PM
Of course there were teams like Memphis that had good bigs that got bounced early because they didn't have good guards. 
Does top 10 pick Tyreke Evans count?  Mizzou was a very good team, and Memphis had an off night.  That's all it takes to lose when you get that deep in the tournament. 

radome

I don't remember the year but I was in Hawaii watching an NIT game (04 or 05?) and we were up by a couple and could not inbound the darn ball.  One of the most frustrating losses that I can remember.  I also remember thinking that we need some guards and that I hope that we are never that thin again on guards.  I don't think we are there but I can understand some concerns.  We do have a guard in each of the next 2 classes though.

bilsu

I not seen them play, but supposedly Maymon and Williams can play the two.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 27, 2009, 04:35:20 PM
Of course there were teams like Memphis that had good bigs that got bounced early because they didn't have good guards. 

Wasn't the far and away best player on Memphis (Tyreke Evans) a guard?

strobl2

I know what you are saying that you can still be good with a great big man, but I think its better to have the best player on your team and the most dominant aspect of your team to be guards. Then you have a few bigs that can finish in the lane and rebound. If you really think about it, did the 3 amigos really need a dominant big man. Not really, they just needed average bigs who could rebound and finish down low when given easy oppurtunities. Which they didn't have this year.

ChicosBailBonds

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ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Wareagle on April 27, 2009, 04:44:55 PM
Does top 10 pick Tyreke Evans count?  Mizzou was a very good team, and Memphis had an off night.  That's all it takes to lose when you get that deep in the tournament. 

Takes more than one good guard....I think they had many off nights....they barely beat Cal State Northridge, they lost to G'Town in the regular season, lost to Xavier, lost to Syracuse.  Hard to pick a very good team they beat all year long except for Gonzaga, that's about it.  Unless we count UAB, Tennessee and Maryland as very good wins.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 27, 2009, 06:17:53 PM
Wasn't the far and away best player on Memphis (Tyreke Evans) a guard?

Yes....but I said guardS.  It can't be about just one guard. 

Wareagle

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 27, 2009, 07:19:07 PM
Takes more than one good guard....I think they had many off nights....they barely beat Cal State Northridge, they lost to G'Town in the regular season, lost to Xavier, lost to Syracuse.  Hard to pick a very good team they beat all year long except for Gonzaga, that's about it.  Unless we count UAB, Tennessee and Maryland as very good wins.
Antonio Anderson (8-13 from the field against Mizzou) played guard as did Robert Sallie (3-5 on 3's).  The fact of the matter is that Mizzou shot over 50% against Memphis.  Teams for the year were shooting 40% from 2 and 30% from 3 against the Tigers.  The chances Mizzou does that in a 10 game series is probably 20%. 

I just wouldn't draw too many conclusions from one game in the tournament, especially when Memphis DID have more than one good guard.  Sometimes the better team loses and there's no lesson to be drawn from it.

Pakuni

Quote from: Wareagle on April 27, 2009, 09:16:25 PM
  Sometimes the better team loses and there's no lesson to be drawn from it.

That's one of the wisest comments I've ever read here.
Seriously.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Wareagle on April 27, 2009, 09:16:25 PM
Antonio Anderson (8-13 from the field against Mizzou) played guard as did Robert Sallie (3-5 on 3's).  The fact of the matter is that Mizzou shot over 50% against Memphis.  Teams for the year were shooting 40% from 2 and 30% from 3 against the Tigers.  The chances Mizzou does that in a 10 game series is probably 20%. 

I just wouldn't draw too many conclusions from one game in the tournament, especially when Memphis DID have more than one good guard.  Sometimes the better team loses and there's no lesson to be drawn from it.

I'm drawing my conclusions based on them beating only one good team all year....Gonzaga.  But I do agree with you, sometimes the better team loses.  In this case, Missouri was the better team.

77fan88warrior

Quote from: warrior55 on April 26, 2009, 05:02:24 PM
Someone take him to Qdoba

I can testify to the fact that 40 year old guys gain weight quickly at Qdoba!

Pakuni

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on April 27, 2009, 08:46:10 AM
Crean took plenty of chances in Wade, Berkowitz, Mortensen, Kinsella, Barro, Blackledge. From that list, one was awesome; one was solid; two were inconsequential; and two were disasters of epic proportion. Going down the risk road didn't start last April.

Buzz has credit in the casino and he's using it on the roulette table.

You can add James Matthews and perhaps even Jamil Lott to that list. Matthews barely qualified and ended up not lasting a semester at MU and unlike, say, Jimmy Butler, Joe Fulce and JBO, Lott had to spend two years at a JUCO to qualify.