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Pakuni

#150
Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 08:56:06 AMI'm 100% on board with a salary floor, and that would be necessary with any change to revenue sharing or adding a salary cap.  Have never argued otherwise.

But cool.  The Brewers could shoot for putting all but 1 penny of their profit back into their roster and they'll almost catch the Dodgers in payroll.  They only fall $388MM shy of the Dodgers if you add the $24MM profit the Brewers made all back into their payroll.  That'd get them all the way to 29% of the Dodgers payroll!  So close!

Think of how absolutely absurd the system is that the Brewers could spend every penny of profit that they make and still only be able to get to 29% of what the Dodgers spend on their payroll.

Kind of irrelevant, but I think your math is off a bit.
The Brewers' projected 2026 payroll is $136 million. The Dodgers' is $359 million. Add $24 million to the Brewers = $160 million. That's about 45%, not 29%.

That said, nobody disputes that there are imbalances that can be better addressed. But the primary results of a salary cap would be to 1) artificially depress wages and 2) enrich poorly run franchises to the detriment of those that are run well.
What some people seem unwilling to recognize is that in addition to some of their market advantages, the Dodgers have money to burn because they're an exceptionally well run franchise. And punishing that success by taking their money and giving it to franchises that DGAF (looking at you, Pittsburgh and Miami) is no less unfair than the discrepancies you're talking about.


18thandWells

#151
Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 10:41:07 AMKind of irrelevant, but I think you're math is off a bit.
The Brewers' projected 2026 payroll is $136 million. The Dodgers' is $359 million. Add $24 million to the Brewers = $160 million. That's about 45%, not 29%.
I think he's adding Luxury Tax to "payroll."

I've never run any business, including any MLB franchise.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Pete Alonzo to the Orioles for 5 years $155mil.

18thandWells

#153
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on Today at 12:04:14 PMPete Alonzo to the Orioles for 5 years $155mil.
Huh. Where'd they find the revenue?

MU82

A salary floor and better revenue-sharing program won't solve everything, but they are the best potential solutions. If enacted, they would require the owners to work with each other, and to spend the revenue-sharing money they are handed instead of pocketing it. And it doesn't require the players to help save them from themselves.
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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 01:17:37 PMA salary floor and better revenue-sharing program won't solve everything, but they are the best potential solutions. If enacted, they would require the owners to work with each other, and to spend the revenue-sharing money they are handed instead of pocketing it. And it doesn't require the players to help save them from themselves.
MLB spend basically the same % of revenue on payroll as NFL and NBA. A salary floor will not help the players.

A hard cap with a floor could address competitive balance.

MU82

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 01:24:00 PMMLB spend basically the same % of revenue on payroll as NFL and NBA. A salary floor will not help the players.

A hard cap with a floor could address competitive balance.

A salary floor absolutely would help the players. Among other things, it would require the teams that just pocket revenue-sharing money to put it into their payroll.

The cruddy teams might spend the money poorly, but it would go to players, mostly those at the bottom of the salary ladder.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 01:28:06 PMA salary floor absolutely would help the players. Among other things, it would require the teams that just pocket revenue-sharing money to put it into their payroll.

The cruddy teams might spend the money poorly, but it would go to players, mostly those at the bottom of the salary ladder.
There will never be a floor without a cap. I will die on that hill everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

I think MLB will be better off with a cap/floor but not the players as a whole.

MU82

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 01:38:06 PMThere will never be a floor without a cap. I will die on that hill everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

I think MLB will be better off with a cap/floor but not the players as a whole.

I wouldn't doubt that you are correct, because there are enough owners who are satisfied pocketing cash and not trying to win.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 01:38:06 PMThere will never be a floor without a cap. I will die on that hill everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

I think MLB will be better off with a cap/floor but not the players as a whole.

The thing is, MLB is fine as it is. Revenues are up. Attendance is up. TV ratings are up. Fans enjoy the product.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 01:50:28 PMI wouldn't doubt that you are correct, because there are enough owners who are satisfied pocketing cash and not trying to win.
Thank God JR is not one of those owners.  >:(

18thandWells

Congrats to new MLB Hall of Famer Joe Buck.

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