Symir’s Charge

[We R Final Four]

Does the restricted defensive circle not extend to the baseline?
Symir was very close to the baseline, but inside the circle—if it were extended when he took that charge.
I have never seen this application of the rule before.

[The Sultan]

The restricted area ends "at the face of the backboard."

Here is the definition per the NCAA rulebook:  "The restricted area ("R.A.") is defined as the area bounded by the outer edge of the restricted-area arc, which has a 4-foot radius measured from the center of the basket to the inside of the arc line and extending to the face of the backboard."

[MU82]

I actually was surprised Symir got the call, because he clearly was in an extension of the restricted area below the baseline. Being a ref, I actually have never had to make that call, so I decided to look it up during the next time-out. Much to my surprise, I learned that the restricted area does NOT extend below the baseline.

It's a little confusing, because a 3-second violation CAN be called on somebody out of bounds, as the lane extends 4 feet off the end of the court.

Even us 106-year-olds can keep learning!

[We R Final Four]

Thank you both.

[Billy Hoyle]

I actually was surprised Symir got the call, because he clearly was in an extension of the restricted area below the baseline. Being a ref, I actually have never had to make that call, so I decided to look it up during the next time-out. Much to my surprise, I learned that the restricted area does NOT extend below the baseline.

It's a little confusing, because a 3-second violation CAN be called on somebody out of bounds, as the lane extends 4 feet off the end of the court.

Even us 106-year-olds can keep learning!

for sure!  But, the idea of the restricted area arc is to prevent defensive players from hanging out below the rim. It's also a dangerous situation too.  But, under and behind the backboard an offensive player is unlikely to draw contact on a shot attempt.

I didn't know that about the lane and three second calls. That's a weird one.

[GooooMarquette]

Short thread, but I learned a lot.

I'm now eagerly awaiting the day I see a guy get called for 3 seconds while standing out of bounds under the basket.... 

[#UnleashSean]

I actually was surprised Symir got the call, because he clearly was in an extension of the restricted area below the baseline. Being a ref, I actually have never had to make that call, so I decided to look it up during the next time-out. Much to my surprise, I learned that the restricted area does NOT extend below the baseline.

It's a little confusing, because a 3-second violation CAN be called on somebody out of bounds, as the lane extends 4 feet off the end of the court.

Even us 106-year-olds can keep learning!

Sorta unrelated note. I had a coach last year scream for a 3 second call. On the defense. In an 8th grade game.

[MU82]

Sorta unrelated note. I had a coach last year scream for a 3 second call. On the defense. In an 8th grade game.

Coaches can be crazy. Present company included.

Actually, I am super-chill. I coach middle-school kids, so I check my ego and my big mouth at the door. But if I coached at a higher level, I'd probably be crazy, too!

[Billy Hoyle]

Coaches can be crazy. Present company included.

Actually, I am super-chill. I coach middle-school kids, so I check my ego and my big mouth at the door. But if I coached at a higher level, I'd probably be crazy, too!

I was working a college game a few weeks ago and one set of coaches were screaming for a three second call. The next time down the floor they started counting, they got to six. The following time down the floor the official whistled the guy for a three second violation.

[mileskishnish72]

Whew! I was worried when I saw the title of the thread.