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Marcus92

I think the answer is "it depends." But I see two general possibilities:

If Marquette faced an issue on the order of Penn State, but denied that there was a problem in the first place, resisted the investigation at every turn, attacked the victims and disputed any penalties, I'd have a hard time supporting the university. I chose MU as a university with a strong academic standing and values first -- and as a basketball school second.

However, if Marquette showed that it acknowledged wrong-doing, committed itself to fully investigating the issue, held those at fault accountable, accepted the consequences and did what it could to compensate the victims, chances are I would still support MU.

Organizations aren't perfect. Even those dedicated to education and service. But when you fall short of your ideals, what matters is how you deal with it.
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MU82

Quote from: Marcus92 on June 03, 2019, 02:20:11 PM
I think the answer is "it depends." But I see two general possibilities:

If Marquette faced an issue on the order of Penn State, but denied that there was a problem in the first place, resisted the investigation at every turn, attacked the victims and disputed any penalties, I'd have a hard time supporting the university. I chose MU as a university with a strong academic standing and values first -- and as a basketball school second.

However, if Marquette showed that it acknowledged wrong-doing, committed itself to fully investigating the issue, held those at fault accountable, accepted the consequences and did what it could to compensate the victims, chances are I would still support MU.

Organizations aren't perfect. Even those dedicated to education and service. But when you fall short of your ideals, what matters is how you deal with it.

As usual, M92, a reasonable post from you.
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Marcus92

Quote from: MU82 on June 03, 2019, 03:48:20 PMAs usual, M92, a reasonable post from you.

Yeah, sorry. I should know by now that has no place here.

In all seriousness, it's a great question. I would hope that the situation at Penn State made administrators and alumni alike take a hard look at what's most important, and how they came to enable and protect someone like Sandusky (who was eventually convicted on 45 counts of child molestation) for so long (over the course of at least 15 years).
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tower912

What would your reaction be if Marquette replaced Wojo with Pitino?  Sampson?  Pearl? Miller, after Arizona let's him go? Any other known cheater? If they ran an academic scam like UNC did? 

There was discomfort with Buzz.
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Quote from: tower912 on June 05, 2019, 07:24:07 AM
What would your reaction be if Marquette replaced Wojo with Pitino?  Sampson?  Pearl? Miller, after Arizona let's him go? Any other known cheater? If they ran an academic scam like UNC did? 

There was discomfort with Buzz.

Wouldn't be happy about it. But probably wouldn't stop being a fan.

I am not a Pearl or Pitino fan, but their sins come nowhere near the level of what happened at Penn State. There is a huge difference between NCAA violations and covering up a pedophile who abuses children.

Mr. Sand-Knit

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Quote from: Cheeks on June 02, 2019, 04:53:13 PM
Getting rid of poverty vow would help then, too, I suppose

Ignorant
Few priest have a poverty vow, please.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: Marcus92 on June 03, 2019, 02:20:11 PM
I think the answer is "it depends." But I see two general possibilities:

If Marquette faced an issue on the order of Penn State, but denied that there was a problem in the first place, resisted the investigation at every turn, attacked the victims and disputed any penalties, I'd have a hard time supporting the university. I chose MU as a university with a strong academic standing and values first -- and as a basketball school second.

However, if Marquette showed that it acknowledged wrong-doing, committed itself to fully investigating the issue, held those at fault accountable, accepted the consequences and did what it could to compensate the victims, chances are I would still support MU.

Organizations aren't perfect. Even those dedicated to education and service. But when you fall short of your ideals, what matters is how you deal with it.

Well said, essentially the same thing i said so i agree with u !!
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.


Jay Bee

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Mr. Sand-Knit

Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

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