NCAA Opening night open thread

[Herman Cain]

Traci Carter played for la salle
10 pts 2 ast 5 boards in 29 minutes. glad to see him playing

Hope Traci has a great season . The kid was a real junk yard dog type point guard.

[Its DJOver]

Since this is apparently the thread to talk about former players, anyone got a clip of what Haani did to get ejected against MSU?  From the recap it sounds like he was just trying to box out, and undercut a guy, and I feel like it would have to be a pretty obvious or severe undercut to get ejected, and Haani never struck me as a guy that would go out there and intentionally try to hurt someone.

[MUfan12]

http://tv5.espn.com/video/clip?id=25250242

Flagrant one? Sure. But to throw him out for that is kinda crazy.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It looks real bad, but it also looks unintentional. Haanie was just trying to box out but Ward tried to jump over him for the rebound.

[Jay Bee]

I laid out my wager - across the board Joe C last year vs Traci C this year.  Joe put up some solid numbers that will be tough to beat, notably Steal % and Assist Rate.  Let's put $10 on every Pomeroy category.  As it relates to shooting categories - $10 per on both shooting percentage AND actual makes (FTs, 2pt FG, 3pt FG), and since eFG% reigns supreme and is the most important factor toward a team winning, let's wager $100 on eFG%

You had said, "I'll take the over (on Traci) in all Pomeroy categories." to tower. I selected a few and offered a different bet. I understand now - you just think he'll be better in >50% of the categories; you don't at all think he's better in each.

Good to know; hope he can improve. Rough game Saturday in their home loss to Lafayette. They project to be a sub-500 team. Ouch.

[Mr. Nielsen]

I was watching the game on BTN. Was very shocked that resulted to be ejected for Haani.

[Galway Eagle]

It looks real bad, but it also looks unintentional. Haanie was just trying to box out but Ward tried to jump over him for the rebound.

So this basically negates an over the back call now that it's the boxing out defenders fault right?

[GGGG]

So this basically negates an over the back call now that it's the boxing out defenders fault right?

In no way was that an over the back.  The foul was correctly called with Ward going straight up and Haanif moving into his legs.

EDIT:  One of the items that determines a Flagrant 2 is "The potential for injury resulting from the contact (e.g., a blow to the head or a foul committed while the player was in a vulnerable position)"

From that perspective, I can see why it was called the way it was.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So this basically negates an over the back call now that it's the boxing out defenders fault right?

Eh...it was bad timing IMHO. Haanie was late getting to the box out and was looking at the ball, not at Ward. Ward had already started his jump by the time Haanie arrived. I don't know if Ward even saw Haanie coming towards him.

[tower912]

No malicious intent by Haani, but the proper call.   Bad timing and bad luck.    If Ward was still on the ground when he arrived, then it was a good box out.   Ward elevated as Haani arrived and, yes, he undercut him. 

[Floorslapper]

You had said, "I'll take the over (on Traci) in all Pomeroy categories." to tower. I selected a few and offered a different bet. I understand now - you just think he'll be better in >50% of the categories; you don't at all think he's better in each.

Good to know; hope he can improve. Rough game Saturday in their home loss to Lafayette. They project to be a sub-500 team. Ouch.

Traci didn't have a great game against Lafayette.  It's his 2nd game in 1.5 years.  But for real dude - Traci's performance was VASTLY better than that freaking egg JC laid Saturday against an even worse Bethune Cookman team.

Clearly you don't feel JC is a better across the board player than Traci, or you'd have taken the bet I offered.  But to your point, yes, I feel Traci is an across the board better player as in > 50% of categories...including the ever important eFG%  (aren't you the guy who says that reign's supreme?)

[tower912]

I wish Traci had stayed.   He didn't.   He saw the future with Markus and Rowsey and did not see a lot of PG minutes at MU.   I bear him no ill will.   I am going to root for Chartouny more now because he is at MU.    It is not possible for me to care less how Traci's stats this year stack up with Chartouny's from last year.   Good luck, Traci.