So Is McKay Gone For Real?....

[NickelDimer]

Just read it and dismiss it.

This goes without saying

[forgetful]

Who cares what it was! It was a planned departure that took and lasted the same amount of days as this one has. IT IS THE SAME THING. A departure is a departure no matter what reason it is.

No one asked you what it was. And it should not really matter. It is not our business. It may have been due to playing time or whatever but that is not important.

The fact is both left the team officially, and one came back and as of now did not or has not. There are similarities...in that regard which is how you should have read it and took it.

Stop reading more into things that are not there. Some comments are just that...comments. Calm down. The JP Tokoto deal was just me musing...nothing more. Don;t twist this into something to make you look like you know what you are talking about.

Just read it and dismiss it.

The reason that Juan's and Mckay's situation are different is simply this.  Juan didn't want to leave, he felt like he had to for personal reasons.  McKay wanted to leave.

Let's do a hypothetical conversation.  Let's assume you are their boss.

Juan:  Something has come up in my personal life that requires my attention.  Dealing with it would mean that I can't be a part of the organization anymore.  I love it hear, but unfortunately I have to attend to this.

You:  Give it some time...we'll support you in whatever decision is necessary.

A few weeks/months later.

Juan:  The personal issue has cleared itself up.  I would love it if you would allow me to stay on with the company.


McKay:  After consulting friends and family, it appears as if my career would be better served with a different organization.  I would like to tender my resignation.

You:  We wish you would have came to us sooner.  I know things may not be going as well here as you would like, but we see great potential for your long term prospects with this organization.

McKay:  I've already made up my mind.

Hypothetically a few/weeks months later.

McKay:  Turns out this organization is my best option...I would like to stay.

Which one would you bring back...see the difference? 

Obviously this isn't exactly how things went down and I'm not saying I know either of the back stories...just indicating why the reason itself matters. 

I've hired and fired people before.  I've had people that needed to leave for family reasons and things worked themselves out.  In those cases when we hadn't already rehired, I did bring them back on...no bridges burnt. 

I've also had people leave, because they thought they had a better offer out there (in reality I knew they were lucky to have their current position)...those in more or less words...don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

[dgies9156]

Juan:  The personal issue has cleared itself up.  I would love it if you would allow me to stay on with the company.

McKay:  After consulting friends and family, it appears as if my career would be better served with a different organization.  I would like to tender my resignation.

Obviously this isn't exactly how things went down and I'm not saying I know either of the back stories...just indicating why the reason itself matters. 

Wow, great post. I fell into the category of "well, when he comes to his senses..." but this post explains why McKay isn't coming back. And, while I too have no idea what the real situation is, I suspect if I was Buzz, I am really not sure I would want him back at this point.

[GGGG]

Who cares what it was! It was a planned departure that took and lasted the same amount of days as this one has. IT IS THE SAME THING. A departure is a departure no matter what reason it is.

No one asked you what it was. And it should not really matter. It is not our business. It may have been due to playing time or whatever but that is not important.

The fact is both left the team officially, and one came back and as of now did not or has not. There are similarities...in that regard which is how you should have read it and took it.

Stop reading more into things that are not there. Some comments are just that...comments. Calm down. The JP Tokoto deal was just me musing...nothing more. Don;t twist this into something to make you look like you know what you are talking about.

Just read it and dismiss it.

Well, I do know what I am talking about. 

Juan had a non-basketball related issue at home that he felt he had to deal with.  He had Buzz's full support.  When it cleared up, he asked to return and Buzz welcomed him.

Jameel had a basketball related issue after a week of practice in his first year.

And I am hardly the one that isn't calm here.  Someday you will realize that background and circumstance matter, and that things that seem similar at a cursory glace, really aren't all that similar.  That is definitely the case here.

[mu03eng]

Well, I do know what I am talking about. 

Juan had a non-basketball related issue at home that he felt he had to deal with.  He had Buzz's full support.  When it cleared up, he asked to return and Buzz welcomed him.

Jameel had a basketball related issue after a week of practice in his first year.

And I am hardly the one that isn't calm here.  Someday you will realize that background and circumstance matter, and that things that seem similar at a cursory glace, really aren't all that similar.  That is definitely the case here.

+1 The Jameel and Juan scenario's are light years apart in circumstance and are not relevant to be compared.  Even the Jake Thomas leave and come back scenario is a more acceptable one than what McKay has pulled.

To a certain extent I think McKay is a shinning example of where the current culture has taken mid-level athletes.  McKay talks a ton of junk on twitter (to the point I almost unfollowed a couple of times because it was clogging my timeline), but this is showing he is largely an "internet tough guy".  What kids don't realize is you still do have to earn it, whether it's trash talking or being a little flamboyant or whatever, you have to have talent and drive that leads to results before you can just "be the man".  I think Jameel has missed a step, and I hope he finds that step with his next team and is successful at life.  With that, I'm moving on as I'd like to focus on the guys that are here and care like Juan.

[denverMU]

Let's clear up once and for all why Juan left and then returned to MU.  Received my copy of Blue Ribbon College Basketball Yearbook this weekend. In the MU write-up the true reason Juan left and returned..."After the season, Anderson asked Williams for a release to transfer out West and be closer to his Grandfather, who had been diagnosed with cancer.  Williams, who called Anderson "like a son to me" said his mother talked her son out of the move and Williams welcomed him back...His mom never wanted him to leave.  But it was a twenty year old, somewhat rushed decision to try to do what he felt was right.  I'm never against a kid trying to do what is right for his family.  As for his basketball ability, Williams calls him "the ultimate Marquette guy"...If you looked in an encyclopedia for what a Marquette guy is, there will be a picture of Juan there."

So, Juan left to be closer to his sick Grandfather. Certainly what we should all hope "A Marquette Guy" would do.  I think he is going to have a breakout year and I'm glad he came back.

[GGGG]

Let's clear up once and for all why Juan left and then returned to MU.  Received my copy of Blue Ribbon College Basketball Yearbook this weekend. In the MU write-up the true reason Juan left and returned..."After the season, Anderson asked Williams for a release to transfer out West and be closer to his Grandfather, who had been diagnosed with cancer.  Williams, who called Anderson "like a son to me" said his mother talked her son out of the move and Williams welcomed him back...His mom never wanted him to leave.  But it was a twenty year old, somewhat rushed decision to try to do what he felt was right.  I'm never against a kid trying to do what is right for his family.  As for his basketball ability, Williams calls him "the ultimate Marquette guy"...If you looked in an encyclopedia for what a Marquette guy is, there will be a picture of Juan there."

So, Juan left to be closer to his sick Grandfather. Certainly what we should all hope "A Marquette Guy" would do.  I think he is going to have a breakout year and I'm glad he came back.

But...but....but....according to MUHoopsFan2, Juan leaving at the end of the year because his grandfather had cancer "IS THE SAME THING" as McKay leaving after the first week of practice over a playing time issue.

[Benny B]

But...but....but....according to MUHoopsFan2, Juan leaving at the end of the year because his grandfather had cancer "IS THE SAME THING" as McKay leaving after the first week of practice over a playing time issue.

Well duh, of course it's the same thing.... if your grandfather is on your team and he's the one getting the bulk of "your" minutes.

[Pakuni]

Let's clear up once and for all why Juan left and then returned to MU.  Received my copy of Blue Ribbon College Basketball Yearbook this weekend. In the MU write-up the true reason Juan left and returned..."After the season, Anderson asked Williams for a release to transfer out West and be closer to his Grandfather, who had been diagnosed with cancer.  Williams, who called Anderson "like a son to me" said his mother talked her son out of the move and Williams welcomed him back...His mom never wanted him to leave.  But it was a twenty year old, somewhat rushed decision to try to do what he felt was right.  I'm never against a kid trying to do what is right for his family.  As for his basketball ability, Williams calls him "the ultimate Marquette guy"...If you looked in an encyclopedia for what a Marquette guy is, there will be a picture of Juan there."

So, Juan left to be closer to his sick Grandfather. Certainly what we should all hope "A Marquette Guy" would do.  I think he is going to have a breakout year and I'm glad he came back.

So Juan's return wasn't the result of someone giving him a holler?

[NickelDimer]

So Juan's return wasn't the result of someone giving him a holler?

Welp, my hopes just went out the window

[bilsu]

For Jameel to comeback he would have to admit he made a mistake. I do not know him, but it seems that right now he believes he is a stud and that it is Buzz's fault he is not being used right. Someday he may decide he made a mistake, but I am guessing that will not happen soon.

[4everwarriors]

How many players is Buzz like a father to?

[LloydMooresLegs]

Same thought. 

[Lennys Tap]

How many players is Buzz like a father to?

Plenty, and they don't have to be All Americans to qualify.

[Benny B]

How many players is Buzz like a father to?

Well, if you're playing the odds, I'd say fewer than Wilt Chamberlain.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Well, if you're playing the odds, I'd say fewer than Wilt Chamberlain.

or even Ralph Sampson

[ecompt]

or even Ralph Sampson

Buzz may be the Shawn Kemp of college coaches

[Dawson Rental]

Well, I do know what I am talking about.  

Juan had a non-basketball related issue at home that he felt he had to deal with.  He had Buzz's full support.  When it cleared up, he asked to return and Buzz welcomed him.

Jameel had a basketball related issue after a week of practice in his first year.

And I am hardly the one that isn't calm here.  Someday you will realize that background and circumstance matter, and that things that seem similar at a cursory glace, really aren't all that similar.  That is definitely the case here.

I'm hoping that that basketball related issue was the realization that Steve Taylor, Jr. is a beast!

Something just popped into my head that Jae Crowder said about his first semester.  Something like Buzz got on him and took his practice gear away.  I think he was still able to practice, but he had to use his own shorts, etc.  Jae decided to stick it out, and IIRC that eventually worked out well.