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Author Topic: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?  (Read 3069 times)

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They will be coming off of a 2 week hiatus without playing a basketball game.  We just played through a really intense game and have several days to prepare for them at home.  Advantage?

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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 09:46:32 AM »
This is the thing that allows a sportswriter to write one of the following two stories after the game:

1. "A Georgetown team that hadn't played in over two weeks showed its rust, falling to an underdog Warrior team on the road 78-75 on Saturday. Uncharacteristically, the Hoyas missed a number of open jumpers and struggled from the line..."

2. "Georgetown was able to use its fresh legs, having not played a game in over two weeks, to power their way to a road win over the Warriors 78-75 on Saturday..."

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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 09:47:16 AM »
They will be coming off of a 2 week hiatus without playing a basketball game.  We just played through a really intense game and have several days to prepare for them at home.  Advantage?

I hope it gives us the advantage, but I think things like that are way over blown and over analyzed. Especially with young college players, who knows how they will react one way or another. 

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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 12:59:49 PM »
A fairly well respected college hoops capper had a pretty interesting post on this topic, comparing point per possession and time off

Avg = 1.01

1 day rest = .998 ppp
2 days rest = 1.005 ppp
3 days rest = 1.018 ppp
4 days rest = 1.020 ppp
5 days rest = 1.025 ppp
6 days rest = 1.020 ppp
7 days rest = 1.015 ppp
8 days rest = 1.008 ppp
9 days rest = 1.000 ppp
10+ days rest = .975 ppp

Georgetown will be coming off 13 days rest, and Marquette off 3 days rest

A link to the post is here:

http://www.nropp.com/nropp-2.pdf


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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 01:04:37 PM »
A fairly well respected college hoops capper had a pretty interesting post on this topic, comparing point per possession and time off

Avg = 1.01

1 day rest = .998 ppp
2 days rest = 1.005 ppp
3 days rest = 1.018 ppp
4 days rest = 1.020 ppp
5 days rest = 1.025 ppp
6 days rest = 1.020 ppp
7 days rest = 1.015 ppp
8 days rest = 1.008 ppp
9 days rest = 1.000 ppp
10+ days rest = .975 ppp

Georgetown will be coming off 13 days rest, and Marquette off 3 days rest

A link to the post is here:

http://www.nropp.com/nropp-2.pdf



Well, that answers the question, perfectly.
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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 01:25:43 PM »
Well, that answers the question, perfectly.

It is some evidence, but not really conclusive. You'd need to be able to control for quality of opponent as you are more likely to have really long lay-offs in your non-conference schedule and will play most of your short succession games in conference or in tournaments.
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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 01:45:19 PM »
Georgetown just added UCLA transfer Josh Smith.

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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2013, 02:03:21 PM »
Yeah not definitive especially when you look at the big difference in numbers of games played on 2-5 days rest compared to those played with 10+ days of rest. In addition all games of 10+ are lumped together while 1-9 are their own categories. This is obviously because teams rarely play with such long gaps so they needed to lump them all together for this reason, but arguably maybe there's a point where the numbers start going up against at day 13-14 off after going down in games after 10-12 days off.

I agree with earlier posters that it's something writers and fans will point to to explain the outcome, but will not actually play much if any role in the result. For what it's worth ND will be coming off a similar break when they play Seton Hall. I also know that Miami had a 2 week break earlier this year before facing then undefeated Charlotte and Miami destroyed them. So could be a good thing could be a bad thing, but probably won't mean much of anything.

Oh and Josh Smith isn't available until Next December. I'm sure most of you understand that, but just to clarify to avoid confusion. Too bad because I'd love to have him to go against Gardner. Gardner is the guy who scares me for Marquette and I'm just glad he's not able to play more than 20 minutes effectively. Really hope we can get Gardner into foul trouble. If that happens I think it's game over. 

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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2013, 03:04:56 PM »
This is the thing that allows a sportswriter to write one of the following two stories after the game:

1. "A Georgetown team that hadn't played in over two weeks showed its rust, falling to an underdog Warrior team on the road 78-75 on Saturday. Uncharacteristically, the Hoyas missed a number of open jumpers and struggled from the line..."

2. "Georgetown was able to use its fresh legs, having not played a game in over two weeks, to power their way to a road win over the Warriors 78-75 on Saturday..."
78-75 only happens, if this game goes into 6 overtimes. It will be more like 43-40.

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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2013, 05:22:48 PM »
Georgetown just added UCLA transfer Josh Smith.

LOL, if Smith thinks that Thompson III is going to put him out there while he weighs the same as a baby elephant, he's sadly mistaken.  I think that Duke should have given him a flyer.  They have a highly respected weight loss clinic.
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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 05:30:23 PM »
Georgetown just added UCLA transfer Josh Smith.

Cool, let's worry about him next year.

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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 05:50:39 PM »
Cool, let's worry about him next year.

Honestly, I don't think that we're ever going to have to worry about him.  Still, Georgetown is going to have someone more than competent to play the 5 each year.  I think that its because Thompson III never takes having a big man for granted and takes a few flyers each year to be certain that he has someone who works out.  This year he has a 6-9, 270 lb soph who isn't getting time, a 6-9, 250 lb Nigerian jr who redshirted last year who isn't getting time, a 6-11, 230 lb. freshman who'll probably redshirt, and now Josh Smith.  On top of that he's got two guys Hopkins (6-9, 223) and Lubick (6-8, 235) that he's comfortable playing there this year.
Meanwhile, Buzz stockpiles switchables, and we'll definitely have more perimeter depth to throw at them.  It's an interesting contrast in recruiting styles.  It probably helps that Thompson III knows that he can get a top PG when he needs one, and doesn't need to recruit several to make certain that he has one that will work out.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2013, 12:51:41 PM »
ND just curb stomped Seton Hall 93-74. This is of note since ND had not played since December 21st. They did not show any rust.

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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 12:57:29 PM »
ND just curb stomped Seton Hall 93-74. This is of note since ND had not played since December 21st. They did not show any rust.

To be fair, Seton Hall hasn't played in years.
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Re: Is it a good thing that Georgetown hasn't played a game since Dec. 22?
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 01:53:10 PM »
I'd have to say defensively, no; offensively, yes.

 

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