Potential Transfer?

[Lighthouse 84]

One of which was the game-winning assist after he made a steal to provide us with those game-winning points.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that we've gone down this road again, since Vander's the topic, but this story is beyond dead. Especially the Vander Orange bit. Might Blue have been out of line? Possibly, even probably. Was the other student out of line? Again, no matter what he told Lighthouse, the answer is that he probably was. Two immature teens or early-twentysomethings, imagine that. Let it go already.

I don't disagree the other kid may have gotten out of line.  But it shouldn't have started in the first place and the other kid isn't the reason it started.

I like Vander on the BB court.  I hope he has a great year for the Warriors. But blind loyalty to a sports figure, no matter how good or bad his off court-field manner is, just because he's on your favorite team, boggles my mind. 

[Murphysguy]

He obviously didn't learn his lesson, seeing as how there was another incident that happened after March madness last year. The incident also involved another extremely high profile player on this year's team. Obviously it was swept under the rug once again, but lets just say the team is no longer welcome at either of the campus bars.

[brewcity77]

But blind loyalty to a sports figure, no matter how good or bad his off court-field manner is, just because he's on your favorite team, boggles my mind.

I never said anything about blind loyalty. I sincerely hope we see better decisions from Vander in the coming years. Regardless of what may or may not have happened here or at Humphrey, I don't like the idea that he's allowing himself to be so close to the situations in the first place. I hope that he has learned from those events and realizes that talent is not a pass to be an idiot, and that his actions have more consequence than just how it affects him as an individual.

But at the same point, I think we have belabored these events to the point where the carrion-picked skeleton is no longer recognizable as the horse it once was. Yet for some reason, every time Vander comes up, some have to pull out the clubs again and go looking for that poor horse. I'm not trying to cast aspersions at you, I honestly don't even know who brought this up in this thread, I just don't see any point in belaboring dead topics.

If we have to revisit similar events in the coming months, then I can see merit in discussing those future events, and can even see reason to revisit these topics. But right now, I guess I just don't understand the need to keep beating the kid up for events that for the most part happened over a year ago.

[Canadian Dimes]

Blue will never play in the NBA. Won't get drafted, won't get a look. He has zero explosiveness, a slight build and is lacking basketball instincts. He could have a fine collegiate career, but at this point he doesn't even warrant honorable mention all Big East. People talking NBA are out of their minds.

One of the most ignorant statement i have ever read on this board.  Ignorant in so many ways I dont even know where to start.  There have been tens of thousands of truly ignorant statements on this board over the years but this belongs in any Top 10 list

[real chili 83]

I am a relative newcomer to this board, as you can tell by my almost double digit posting history....so I don't have ton of history here.

I was one of the posters who was lamenting Blue's play against Norfolk.  My comments were in jest, and to the effect of ...get him off the floor, he's  having a bad night.  Had Otule or Gardener been playing the same way, I would have made the same comments.  

I found it surprising the reactions my seemingly inane comments got...both ways, on Blue.  Lots of "passion" on this player from other posters....just an observation.

I  agree with 2002MUAlum's last post and assessment of Blue...

- He's not a good shooter. He might not even be average.
- He's racked up some good assist numbers, but I wouldn't say he has great vision.
- He has impressive numbers against lower level opponents, but hasn't had good games against top level competition.
- Regardless of details the off the court stuff, he has shown some immaturity and certainly could have handled it better.

This board is usually a ton of fun to read.  
By the way, has anyone noticed that Notre Dame lost two in a row in Orlando!!!!!  All is well.

[godzilla]

I'm sure you made plenty of stupid mistakes as a 17 and 18 year old.  Not to mention you made those mistakes without the big time glare of a D1 athlete.  Probably in a world without twitter, too.

Never is a long time.  Let's see how he does going forward.

The problem is that he hasn't learned his lesson, if what some students are telling me is true.  He's still acting like the entitled "punk" (their word) that he was last year. 

And the VanderOrange incident is really not that huge of a deal compared to other incidents he was involved in, but a student on the periphery of that confrontation said he came in acting arrogant and was ordering people around, the VanderOrange insult was uttered and it went from there.  Nobody said a thing to Blue at all to instigate anything.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I happen to know a few people who are at MU now that are familiar with Blue and his attitude/behavior, and I just find it extremely hard to cheer for him after what I've heard.

[NersEllenson]

The problem is that he hasn't learned his lesson, if what some students are telling me is true.  He's still acting like the entitled "punk" (their word) that he was last year. 

And the VanderOrange incident is really not that huge of a deal compared to other incidents he was involved in, but a student on the periphery of that confrontation said he came in acting arrogant and was ordering people around, the VanderOrange insult was uttered and it went from there.  Nobody said a thing to Blue at all to instigate anything.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I happen to know a few people who are at MU now that are familiar with Blue and his attitude/behavior, and I just find it extremely hard to cheer for him after what I've heard.

You have 5 posts - your contribution thus far:

1) 5 posts dogging Vander Blue.
2) Within those 5 posts, you have managed to:
a) Criticize Junior Cadougan for getting beat off the dribble "still."
b) Criticize the MU coaching staff for letting Vander "shoot that way"
c) Criticized the quality of MU's opposition thus far...

Thank you for making this board and community a better place.  We look forward to your continued support of MU basketball.

[GGGG]

You have 5 posts - your contribution thus far:

1) 5 posts dogging Vander Blue.
2) Within those 5 posts, you have managed to:
a) Criticize Junior Cadougan for getting beat off the dribble "still."
b) Criticize the MU coaching staff for letting Vander "shoot that way"
c) Criticized the quality of MU's opposition thus far...

Heh....Godzilla Orange.