Worst call of the game....

[GGGG]

Take...your...own...advice. I said that the number of posts have nothing to do with a comment.
Apparently you forgot to read that portion of the post.

Read it.  Decided it was irrelevant.  Ignored it.

[Guy Fieri's Dad]

FU Sultan of South Wayne. When refs suck they cost the game. This site is too full of namby pamby sentiment like yours. On one play Butler was bloodied and they had to remove him from the game and yet the other team got the foul call.

+1 since thats what is apparently cool these days

[punchystones]

Let's blame the refs for everyone of our losses.  They were the reason we can't rebound, kept a 15 point lead or get a defensive stop.  It is a conspiracy against Marquette and every Big East team in the tournament.  Damn them.

[GGGG]

FU Sultan of South Wayne. When refs suck they cost the game. This site is too full of namby pamby sentiment like yours. On one play Butler was bloodied and they had to remove him from the game and yet the other team got the foul call.

Namby pamby sentiment is pointing at the refs instead of figuring out that we lost a 15 point lead because we made our adjustments too late.  Blaming others is pretty much the epitome of namby pamby.

[Guy Fieri's Dad]

Can't you domers stay on your own board and sob about your own loss please?

The last thing I would ever be is a domer. I hate ND and Harangody's ugly F*ing parents with every fiber of my being.. no retort means full and complete agreement

[skianth16]

Read it.  Decided it was irrelevant.  Ignored it.

I've read some really, really dumb posts on here. You sir, are making a strong effort at getting yourself up there.

Of course you're faaar too important with your stars and your f@ggy picture to listen to anyone else. My best guess is that we'll be able to find you on chatroulette later tonight with all the other lonely losers showing off how small you are

[GGGG]

I've read some really, really dumb posts on here. You sir, are making a strong effort at getting yourself up there.

Of course you're faaar too important with your stars and your f@ggy picture to listen to anyone else. My best guess is that we'll be able to find you on chatroulette later tonight with all the other lonely losers showing off how small you are

Then the obvious thing to do is stop responding to me and get on ignoring me.  I have made multiple points on this issue in multiple threads.  If that is that good enough for you, tough crap.

[NersEllenson]

The refs would have sucked even if Marquette had pulled this one out.  I just wish we would have been allowed to play the same brand of pressure basketball that UW did.  We tried in the first half, and everyone in our starting 5 was tagged with 3 fouls apiece for essentially the same thing that was going on at the other end.

Then we played like kitten cats in the second half while UW was clawing, scratching, hand checking, shoving, eye-poking, and everything in between.  And they STILL ended up with less team fouls in the second half than we did.

Got me.. 

+1 - Well said.  Hard to run effective offense when the defense can football D against your PG and not get called.  It was evident Romar told his team down 15 they had nothing to lose, play overagressive D...and the refs did nothing to stop them from playing that way..in fact they called Mo Acker for an offensive foul when he tried to shed the guy who was riding his body for 25 feet from halcourt to the free throw line

[Aughnanure]

Let's blame the refs for everyone of our losses.  They were the reason we can't rebound, kept a 15 point lead or get a defensive stop.  It is a conspiracy against Marquette and every Big East team in the tournament.  Damn them.

I don't disagree with you or Sultan, but my issue is the idea that any complaints against the officiating, no matter how warranted, is "whining." If you don't think that UW kept getting chances to tie the game back up in the last minute then you weren't watching.

If you really can trick yourself into believing that the refs are not the third most important factor in a game -and frack it up a lot, watch Nova's game - then you are delusional. The biggest BS about basketball is how different games are called depending upon the team and the location.

[GGGG]

I don't disagree with you or Sultan, but is the idea that any complaints against the officiating, no matter how warranted, is "whining." If you don't think that UW kept getting chances to tie the game back up in the last minute then you weren't watching.

Well, you should watch who you are quoting...but WE...BLEW...A...15...POINT...LEAD!!!

UW made adjustments...we didn't respond in time.  Blaming refs is a loser's lament.

[Guy Fieri's Dad]

Namby pamby sentiment is pointing at the refs instead of figuring out that we lost a 15 point lead because we made our adjustments too late.  Blaming others is pretty much the epitome of namby pamby.

watch more basketball...stars be damned your lack of knowledge in areas concerning strategy, x&o's, flow, and team chem is amazing.  Did you play organized sports as a child?

[Moonboots]

+1 - Well said.  Hard to run effective offense when the defense can football D against your PG and not get called.  It was evident Romar told his team down 15 they had nothing to lose, play overagressive D...and the refs did nothing to stop them from playing that way..in fact they called Mo Acker for an offensive foul when he tried to shed the guy who was riding his body for 25 feet from halcourt to the free throw line

Precisely. And that's not Romar's fault. It's not Washington's players faults. It's not the fault of the UW fan base. They should be thrilled. They played well, and when it was determined that they'd be allowed to play like they did, kudos for keeping it up.  I just can't agree with the game being called like that. It's not the precedent that was set in the first half, and it didn't start getting called like that until AFTER our key players were in foul trouble.  "Adjustments" were a tough go for MU at that point.  It's easy to get gunshy when two possessions could eliminate Lazar for the final 6 minutes of the game.

There were times during the second half where we'd start our offense with 11 seconds left on the shot clock out at half court because that's where Acker was bodied and hand-checked to. DJO had a guy bodying him off the ball when he was trying to create space for any sort of entry pass.  I don't understand it.  The pre-15 point lead defense and the during/after-the-collapse defense were night and day for UW, but the corresponding foul calls were exactly the same, and that is entirely non-existent.

[GGGG]

watch more basketball...stars be damned your lack of knowledge in areas concerning strategy, x&o's, flow, and team chem is amazing.  Did you play organized sports as a child?

Played it.  Play it.  Been coaching it for years.  Never have I had a team lose a 15 point lead and blame the refs though.

[Aughnanure]

Well, you should watch who you are quoting...but WE...BLEW...A...15...POINT...LEAD!!!

UW made adjustments...we didn't respond in time.  Blaming refs is a loser's lament.

You say that as though a 15 pt lead in NCCA basketball is untouchable.....which if you have been watching all year is anything but. But you don't, and to say that refs can not be a reason a team loses and another wins is stupid. Basketball, above all sports is the most influenced by its refs, home teams and more aggressive teams are "proven" to be given an advantage in games

[GGGG]

You say that as though a 15 pt lead in NCCA basketball is untouchable.....which if you have been watching all year is anything but. But you don't, and to say that refs can not be a reason a team loses and another wins is stupid. Basketball, above all sports is the most influenced by its refs, home teams and more aggressive teams are "proven" to be given an advantage in games

I fully understand all of that.  Basketball refereeing is exceedingly difficult.  I have seen fans bitch and moan about refs at every level of play.  Fans always think their team gets screwed.

I'm not going to argue that they didn't swallow the whistles in the second half.  I'm not going to argue that they didn't miss calls.  What I am going to say is...that's basketball.  That kind of stuff happens in the NBA...it happens in the NCAA...it happens in high school...and in youth basketball.  UW adjusted their style of play, especially on the defensive end, and we didn't.

A couple of weeks ago, I was coaching in a youth tournament.  The entire first half was very physical, and we don't really have a team that plays well under those conditions.  They were grabbing and bumping our cutters, pushing us off the block, etc.  We were down 12 at halftime.  Instead of complaining, we made some adjustments to our offense, and came back in the second half only to lose in double overtime.

Now, could I have blamed the referees for our first half deficit?  Probably.  But that stuff happens.  Teams adjust and move on.  UW adjusted...we didn't.

[The Pickle]

I am not one for blaming refs either but there were some very questionable calls.  If you are going to call the game close, fine.  If you are going to let them play, fine.  But please, call it the same both ways...

[NersEllenson]

I fully understand all of that.  Basketball refereeing is exceedingly difficult.  I have seen fans bitch and moan about refs at every level of play.  Fans always think their team gets screwed.

I'm not going to argue that they didn't swallow the whistles in the second half.  I'm not going to argue that they didn't miss calls.  What I am going to say is...that's basketball.  That kind of stuff happens in the NBA...it happens in the NCAA...it happens in high school...and in youth basketball.  UW adjusted their style of play, especially on the defensive end, and we didn't.

A couple of weeks ago, I was coaching in a youth tournament.  The entire first half was very physical, and we don't really have a team that plays well under those conditions.  They were grabbing and bumping our cutters, pushing us off the block, etc.  We were down 12 at halftime.  Instead of complaining, we made some adjustments to our offense, and came back in the second half only to lose in double overtime.

Now, could I have blamed the referees for our first half deficit?  Probably.  But that stuff happens.  Teams adjust and move on.  UW adjusted...we didn't.

We didn't adjust because we didn't have the luxury of adjusting and getting the game called the same way.  Mo got called for an offensive foul after trying to shed the UW player who was riding him for 25 feet.  Jimmy got called for a foul on a 50/50 rebound where Jimmy was in at least the better position, and Pondexter slightly over his back goes to the ground and Jimmy gets the whistle.  Are you going to deny that late in the game the referee blew a late whistle on Jimmy after he saw Pondexter's shot from the lane didn't go in?  We took the ball to the hole several times and were hit, and no call.  How is MU supposed to adjust when its most critical players  - Acker and Lazar have 3 fouls with 15 minutes left in the game?  You know the game swung when Lazar went out after getting whistled with his 3rd.

[patso]

I apologize to the Sultan of South Wayne But I stll maintain that in watching the game the refs were the difference.