Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on Today at 11:23:27 AMIf Marquette takes another NAIA transfer, then I will be concerned.

What's hilarious funny is

that same NAIA team had a contributor on it who went to Ole Miss.

Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 11:56:02 AMLol..

I just don't want to go 17-15 next year watching Damarius playing 25 minutes per game.

There are better ways to do this.

Scrapping the backhalf of this to ensure you get 3 guys who can play at this level is significantly smarter than what this staff will end up doing.

I'm right. And you have no idea what this staff will end up doing.

Quote from: Zog from Margo on Today at 11:53:04 AMI agree. I think any year MU doesn't make the tournament should be considered a down year and a failure to meet expectations. I also agree with AE that this season was so abysmal that it should count as two down years and put Shaka on a warm seat next season.

But if we went to say 10/12 tournaments, and in one of the missed years an injury derailed it would we call that not meeting expectations or would we say we met expectations?

Quote from: rgoode57 on Today at 11:38:06 AMIt is, in fact, true that finding better players than Gold and Ross in the portal will be a real challenge. At the same time, I am amazed at how some coaches find players at D2 or at smaller D1 schools that come in and play really well. Obviously, Shaka has to find a big guy who can defend, rebound, and score a little bit. But, there are a lot of other coaches looking for that guy too.

I don't think this is apples-to-apples.  They need to find better fits for what this team will be lacking next season.  Wing defense, shot-blocking, rebounding.   

And ideally, the guys they add will be more efficient offensively.  Ben averaged 8/6 this year but only shot 41% from the field, 26% from 3, and had 0.5 BPG. 

You add a 5 that averages 8/6 but shoots 60% from the field with 2 BPG and that's a completely different impact for next year's team.  Context matters. 

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 11:51:43 AMI did not list Wrightsil because the context of his addition was completely different than it was for the other guys I mentioned. 

Lol..

I just don't want to go 17-15 next year watching Damarius playing 25 minutes per game.

There are better ways to do this.

Scrapping the backhalf of this to ensure you get 3 guys who can play at this level is significantly smarter than what this staff will end up doing.

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 11:45:07 AMOk Genius. Warriors at MU means more than a silly mascot. It stands for a long legacy, traditional some very good teams, a national title. Not just a mascot. The PC stuff ruined that Perhaps that was what the donor wanted to establish again. If you think mascots are silly or useless, then advocate schools get rid of them. Good luck with that. At MU it should be Warriors, not because some PC nuts wanted it differently.

So it's just a mascot that you place undue significance upon over the name of the university you attended.

Also while I appreciate being referred to as a genius, I think anyone with an average IQ can spot an illogical pathos argument like yours from a mile away.

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 10:45:16 AMI think we're just using the word "expectation" slightly differently. I'm using it in an aspirational sense ... what the yearly outcome should be. He's using it in a predictive sense, i.e. what past performance should tell us about future outcomes.
I don't necessarily think either of us are wrong; just looking at it from different angles.

I agree. I think any year MU doesn't make the tournament should be considered a down year and a failure to meet expectations. I also agree with AE that this season was so abysmal that it should count as two down years and put Shaka on a warm seat next season.

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 11:48:36 AMAndrew in his article stated:

On the positive side of that line is every so often, you catch lightning in a bottle and you're competing for a Big East championship, ranked top 10 in the country, and considered to be a contender for the national championship. That's a rare case, not an expectation.

I took issue with that statement because in Al's day that was the expectation, but Andrew appears to have much lower expectations for the program moving forward. All I'm saying is why shouldn't we have that expectation today especially if we have the resources as many here say we have to acquire the best talent.

Because the game is far more competitive than it was in the 70s.  Everyone has that same goal in mind, and the gap between the best teams and the good teams is smaller now than ever.

There was a reason UCLA was a behemoth under John Wooden forever.  That gap was HUGE.  They won a lot more than they lost.

Now the gap between major programs is much smaller.  If throwing money at a problem solved everything then the solution would be simple.  It's more complicated than that, obviously.

This is why I said to leave the past in the past.

Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 09:58:48 AMI said "what makes you think they will go 3/3" with their transfers.

And you omitted the last transfer they took in.

I did not list Wrightsil because the context of his addition was completely different than it was for the other guys I mentioned.  He was joining a fully-formed team and then he got hurt. 

Also, you mentioning recruiting failures in regards to transfers is completely irrelevant.  The hit rate on transfers should be higher because you have a much bigger sample size of how these guys have performed at the D1 level. 

Now guys moving from a mid-major to a high-major do require that analysis of how their game might translate but that's much different than evaluating a high school player succeeding at the D1 level.

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 11:45:07 AMOk Genius. Warriors at MU means more than a silly mascot. It stands for a long legacy, traditional some very good teams, a national title. Not just a mascot. The PC stuff ruined that Perhaps that was what the donor wanted to establish again. If you think mascots are silly or useless, then advocate schools get rid of them. Good luck with that. At MU it should be Warriors, not because some PC nuts wanted it differently.

Compromise: Change the nickname back to Warriors and replace the old mascot with Joan of Arc. She was a warrior and by far the coolest building on campus is named after her.