Quote from: Jay Bee on February 11, 2026, 01:06:49 AMPretty sure the committee will not be speaking about us.

Agree was going to add that.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 11, 2026, 01:33:27 PMBut the massive amount of incompetence and mismanagement in the past 3 years has been, well quite frankly, historical. It is unfair to expect Sox fans to ignore the results and have great faith that they will become good (.500+) again any time soon. But, this is just one fan's opinion.

Disagree a bit here.
The incompetence and mismanagement largely occurred in the previous 10 years, during the last rebuild. They paid Moncada, Eloy and Robert way too early to save money long-term, and they all got fat and lazy. Paired the club with the worst fit of a manager imaginable by bringing in Tony LaRussa. Had terrible drafting and a sh*tshow of an international development group under Rick Hahn. Failed to embrace data and modern baseball. And were beset by infighting among the front office, which included Kenny Williams making trades behind Rick Hahn's back. Add all that up, and you get the last three years.

On the other hand, I really believe they've turned a page under Getz. They've consistently hired respected people from outside organizations to leadership posts (Jesse Barfield, Brian Bannister, Ryan Fuller, Paul Janish, Will Veneble, David Keller and most recently Carlos Rodriguez from the Rays). They've doubled the size of their player development staff. And, while you may not agree, there's a young core to get excited about, and it's going to get much better in July.
None of this guarantees a future pennant or any future success at all, but I think there's reason for optimism.

Quote from: wadesworld on February 11, 2026, 01:51:10 PMNo they wouldn't.  ESPN made a 30 for 30 on the Red Sox comeback over the Yankees, where they came back from down 0-3 against their biggest rival, a rival that had historically owned them and beat them in the previous post season, and then won their first WS in over 100 years.  They also made one 30 for 30 on the Yankees franchise under George Steinbrenner, the best franchise in baseball.

They aren't making 30 for 30s for the Yankees or Red Sox (or Dodgers) for every really good team that wins a title.  The 2018 Red Sox finished with 9 more regular season wins than the 2005 White Sox and they beat both the Yankees and Dodgers (as well as Astros) in the Playoffs (and never losing more than 1 game in any series) and they weren't running a 30 for 30 on that team.

I think his point is that they were simply overlooked by history. I doubt he was being as literal as you are making him out to be.

Quote from: Viper on February 11, 2026, 02:13:16 PMI'll ask again...what are you arguing?

That it's a great example of how free throw shooting isn't all that important to the eventual outcome.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 11, 2026, 10:26:26 AMYou don't think Marquette would be able to offer them $1 million?

can? Sure. Would they? Maybe. I assume a 20 loss season puts some warmth on the coaches seat and doesn't necessarily offer leverage for big $ to players either. James might be that exception.

Quote from: BCHoopster on February 11, 2026, 02:14:26 PMWhen MU was up 9, MU should have tried to take away the 3.  You play an umbrella D, wide 3-2, being in Clark to try and block a layup, make them drive so they would need 5 possessions to score instead of 3.  Hopefully in those five possessions they have, MU could score a few points to still be up 4 or 5 points, win the game. Poor coaching

What coach completely changes up the defense that got them a 9 point lead with over 6 minutes left in the game?  Now that would be some horrible coaching.

It's not like it was a 90 seconds left.  There were over 6 minutes to play in the game.

Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2026, 02:16:39 PMJB leaning into his transgender phobia. 

Exactly.  That's the reason he started this thread rather than any number of shootings within the US.

JB leaning into his transgender phobia. 

When MU was up 9, MU should have tried to take away the 3.  You play an umbrella D, wide 3-2, being in Clark to try and block a layup, make them drive so they would need 5 possessions to score instead of 3.  Hopefully in those five possessions they have, MU could score a few points to still be up 4 or 5 points, win the game. Poor coaching

Quote from: Newsdreams on February 11, 2026, 12:22:04 PMAre you so dense??

I'll ask again...what are you arguing?