Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 08:10:30 AM"We are now not even getting "sniffs" from the recruits we desire...."

Care to back this up with anything substantive or are you just going to make ridiculous claims?

Dodds burner account here

Quote from: Spaniel with a Short Tail on January 14, 2026, 08:49:21 PM

Star Talk, doubt 1% here know what that is, me always there...

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 14, 2026, 09:58:09 PMI understand how angry MU fans are right now.  Include me in that contingent.  As I've stated many times we need an immediate hard pivot and a slew of bona fide ballers that can change this disaster immediately.

All that said, I believe the rest of the year is important, and getting wins/experience is important. And I'm not gonna stop supporting or watching our guys because we're a terrible team.  I have little confidence we'll get to even 4-16 in the mediocre BEast, but we will see whether or not we have players grow and could be pieces in the future. 

I actually think the majority of scoopers agree with this.

And those who arn't are probably just at the point where they are numb and have moved onto next year in their head and think their will be necessary turnover.

Quote from: tower912 on Today at 07:48:38 AMSheeeoooot.  I got hammered for not turning on the players under Wojo, I get hammered now.  Ain't no thang. 

I root for the players who wear the MU uniform to succeed.   It is more fun when they do, but even when they don't, I enjoy the journey.

Yes. The journey this year is a joyous one. Totally.

Quote from: CTWarrior on Today at 01:01:52 PMEven if Shaka doesn't go to the portal, I think we'll be a lot better next year.  We can be a lot better and still not be a good team though.  Maybe a 8-12 or 9-11 BE team or something like that, but not an NCAA tournament team.

MU may be improved and win a few more conference games. The issue is that every team that doesn't hamstring themselves with sub-par recruits over transfers will also improve. And potentially at a greater clip. Mature talent wins and MU needs more of it.

Quote from: Warrior of Law on January 14, 2026, 03:06:50 PMNext year's team will be younger than this year's team particularly if Jones and Norman are not invited back. There has been minimal growth by Parham, Hamilton, and Owens and there's zero reason to believe they'll improve. Next year's team will be reliant the current frosh, recruits and redshirts. This may take a few seasons. Someone convince me otherwise before I renew for next season.

Even if Shaka doesn't go to the portal, I think we'll be a lot better next year.  We can be a lot better and still not be a good team though.  Maybe a 8-12 or 9-11 BE team or something like that, but not an NCAA tournament team.

It started with a championship with players they developed.  So they adopted a developmental model after being successful developing underappreciated players.   They recruited players they thought would develop in the same way.

I think this is a great synopsis but it started earlier than you're giving credit for. It started the year prior when Justin caught them off guard (Shakas words) by leaving early and Gregg grad transferred. Rather than get guys he dug his heels in and ran with the young returnees and swept the BE championships. It started spring 2022.

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 12:19:33 PMWhy do you think a Painter/Purdue model couldn't work for Marquette?

That seems to be the most logical pivot Shaka could make and I don't understand why he couldn't be successful with it.

I love this question. Thanks for posing it.

I think that the Painter/Purdue model probably is free from implied (if not stated) assurances that a player will not be recruited over and also my guess would be that Painter would work with a transfer (and his agent) to do what he needed to do regarding money, regardless of what arrangements he has with the rest of the team. Possibly, Purdue's and Painter's status in bball make it easier for"P&P" to make it work. A recruit who is not cutting it after being at Purdue for a while knows he needs to leave. Painter probably has a fairly short time frame for projects (like a Hamilton).

Another answer to your question is that Shaka is playing a different game with his RGV. The Purdue model works. This year, we are seeing the first year of Shaka's transfer free team that he has been building for a while. I think he has incorporated too much of his personal beliefs-meditating, being influenced by some book that "changed my life" (my point being a "True Believer") etc.- into the team. I really like and respect him personally and have stated that I would love having him as a neighbor and friend, but never, ever as a business partner. Good business plans have a Plan B, an exit strategy, when a new product bombs in the marketplace. Shaka is quixotic. He wasn't when he arrived at Marquette, but he is now.

The Ravens did him a favor.

Phil Jackson always used to say that there is an expiration date for coaches with one organization, that change is healthy and necessary.