Quote from: Small Orange Soda on March 02, 2026, 02:15:42 PMFor that to happen it would mean five first year players are better than them, plus Josh Clark. I don't think that's very realistic or a sound strategy. And if that's possible, why keep them at all? I'd rather 14th and 15th be for redshirts and frosh.

Redshirt Tre and you both get what you want! Maybe as a 23yr old he'll be serviceable for 10mpg.

Quote from: MU82 on March 02, 2026, 02:04:43 PMWhat if Tre and Caedin are the 14th and 15th men and never play, and if, after adding 2-3 good portal players, we have 8-9 solid to very good players for the rotation?

Why would we want the athletic department to spend its limited resources on 14th and 15th men who never play? I'd prefer they boosted the payroll for guys who do play, or may play an important role in the future.
Upperclassmen who don't play = waste of resources.

Quote from: MU82 on March 02, 2026, 02:04:43 PMWhat if Tre and Caedin are the 14th and 15th men and never play, and if, after adding 2-3 good portal players, we have 8-9 solid to very good players for the rotation?

For that to happen it would mean five first year players are better than them, plus Josh Clark. I don't think that's very realistic or a sound strategy. And if that's possible, why keep them at all? I'd rather 14th and 15th be for redshirts and frosh.

Quote from: MU82 on March 02, 2026, 02:04:43 PMWhat if Tre and Caedin are the 14th and 15th men and never play, and if, after adding 2-3 good portal players, we have 8-9 solid to very good players for the rotation?

2 more spots need to open from the Sean, Tre, Hamilton, and Clark group.  It doesn't really matter which 2.  If more than 2 open up from that group, great. 

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on March 02, 2026, 01:54:45 PMWell said. Agree with your sentiment. As an alum and lifelong Marquette basketball supporter, I am shocked at poorly this team plays. They cannot make free throws; cannot block out and grab rebounds; cannot shoot and rarely followup to get offensive rebounds; cannot set effective screens for shooters; are awful running out of bounds plays. The coaching seems awful. A complete turnover of coaches seems necessary to get coaches who can teach the basic skills - free throws, rebounding, shooting, screening, out of bound plays, how to win instead of struggle.  What has happened to Shaka? Has he lost it? He is failing this year.

So the staff responsible for two #2 seeds no longer knows how to develop and coach 2 seasons later?

Seems to me this is a talent/recruiting issue more than anything, which is also the responsibility of the staff. 

No issue if some new blood is added to the staff but I'm pretty sure Shaka and company didn't completely "lose it" so quickly.

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on March 02, 2026, 01:15:39 PMThis is why Tre and Caedin need to be politely told it's time to go. Simply replacing Chase and Ben doesn't solve the above issue.

What if Tre and Caedin are the 14th and 15th men and never play, and if, after adding 2-3 good portal players, we have 8-9 solid to very good players for the rotation?

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 02, 2026, 12:52:14 PMYou have some really good points, but suggesting that a coach's employees should be fired for HIS failures was not, to put it very mildly, one of them.

That was one of the reason's among others that the previous AD Bill Schooll fired Wojo.  Wojo did not want to make changes. Obviously Shaka is not going to be fired this year, but he should be reviewing his staff very closely.

Quote from: Shaka Shart on March 02, 2026, 01:19:27 PMSomeone was left out of the contracting process

Someone didn't donate enough to the ballroom.

Shaka is the guy responsible. He must be held accountable for overseeing one of the worst seasons in MU'S storied history in about 60 years. Can't believe the slack some people here are cutting for the guy. College BB is big time business. If MU wants to play with the big dogs, then this years performance is unacceptable and must be immediately corrected

Quote from: axaguy on March 02, 2026, 01:40:40 PMFeel sorry for the players but it was evident early on in the season and reconfirmed Sunday that we are playing awful basketball this year. I've witnessed a lot of basketball of all levels in my 70+ years and 20+ as a season ticket holder and without question say we are among the worst I've seen. Sorry, but true.
We can't make 3s, shoot yes but make no. Can't make a layup or close in basket to save our lives or capitalize on turnovers won. We shoot free throws poorly. Have absolutely no idea of what we are doing on offense. We pose no offensive threat with any consistency.
We have played good defense often but result in no points after turn overs or stops. Saw no one on the floor Sunday going after loose balls, no one.
Looks like no floor leadership. WAY too much dribbling on O. No one moving toward the basket to pass to. Picks? Give and gos? Rare. Way to much driving and kicking back out to the point on O or all five beyond the three line with no intention of moving to the basket.
Haven't seen what, if any, coaching changes or teaching has gone on. Blame the coaches for not being able to alter our strategy to fit our current group of players skills or lack of. Get them to play to their strengths and recognize that. Where's the bench? At this point everybody should see the floor. What have we got to lose? They are all D1 guys, right, at MU? Forget ego and feelings....
Don't want to name players here but some guys are forcing the play without an idea of who else needs to be involved. Some guys keep doing the same things over and over with the same results.
The only way we get to the post season is buying a ticket.
Seems like no coaching plan. No way should we be or accept being in last place in the Big East, no way.
Just my thoughts. Would like to see better.

Well said. Agree with your sentiment. As an alum and lifelong Marquette basketball supporter, I am shocked at poorly this team plays. They cannot make free throws; cannot block out and grab rebounds; cannot shoot and rarely followup to get offensive rebounds; cannot set effective screens for shooters; are awful running out of bounds plays. The coaching seems awful. A complete turnover of coaches seems necessary to get coaches who can teach the basic skills - free throws, rebounding, shooting, screening, out of bound plays, how to win instead of struggle.  What has happened to Shaka? Has he lost it? He is failing this year.