MU has several problems, but one of the top issues on my list is that they have no true jump shooters.

When I watch the games, even against a weak team like Valpo, I could count several shots that the opponents make that nobody on MU could get off, much less make.

I count in this category, players who can get off a 3 point shot quickly, including off the dribble or coming around a pick, players who can drive into the lane and pull up and get off a 10-15 shot over their opponent, and players who can post up and get off a turnaround or fall away shot. Some of these shots have a much higher chance of going in than some of the heaves that MU players are forced to toss up when they drive to the basket and are challenged by a rim protector.

This lack of jump shooters makes MU extremely easy to defend. It shouldn't be any surprise that they have trouble getting off a decent shot in those end of game situations. 

Quote from: vogue65 on Today at 03:23:02 PMBecause there are selection criteria. 
You are correct, I don't know the rest of the story.  Nevertheless, Marquette looks to me more like Northwestern or Princeton than St. John's or Seton Hall. 
Remember when the decision-makers wanted MU to reassemble Duke?

I think it's safe to say that you don't know any of the story.

Quote from: wisblue on Today at 03:20:24 PMWhen UW beat MU in 2022 it wasn't considered an upset.

It was literally an upset.

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 03:18:02 PMIf Shaka wanted transfers, Marquette would accept transfers. Why is this so hard to understand?

Because there are selection criteria. 
You are correct, I don't know the rest of the story.  Nevertheless, Marquette looks to me more like Northwestern or Princeton than St. John's or Seton Hall. 
Remember when the decision-makers wanted MU to reassemble Duke?

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 08:17:06 AMIt wouldn't be.

If you go through T-Rank, Marquette was playing like the #16 team in the country to that point of the 2023 season, Wisconsin was playing like the #55 team in the country. It isn't quite apples to apples, but when current #56 Butler plays at #15 St. John's this year, T-Rank has Butler as a +12.2 point underdog with a 14% chance to win.

Currently, T-Rank has us as a +10.4 underdog with an 18% chance to win. That's using preseason data. If you filter it to just this year, we are ranked #112 and Wisconsin is #35. If you look at when current #112 DePaul plays at current #38 Creighton, they are +11.4 with a 15% chance to win.

The spread was likely lower at the time because Vegas was factoring in preseason expectations that had us ranked #32 in kenpom and Wisconsin just slightly behind at #47, but we all know the gap in reality was much larger between those two teams. Any way you split it, the probabilities would be within a few points on either spreads or percentages.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this point.

When UW beat MU in 2022 it wasn't considered an upset. If MU wins on Saturday as a double digit underdog it would be a shocker, especially to anyone who has watched MU struggle at home against CMU and Valpo. 

Quote from: Duane6 on December 03, 2025, 11:58:43 AMHe had 10 rebounds vs Valpo and was 1/5 with 2 turnovers. Walk ons also bring good energy

The announcer (Butch) was extremely positive towards Marquette, but he even criticized CH on at least three occasions: not having his hand up on D when the guy he was guarding hit a turnaround J over him, not hustling to save a ball going out of bounce (that Valpo saved and got a second chance), and he lost focus and let the guy he was guarding back-door him for an easy layup.  I don't remember Butch criticizing anyone else, outside of stating the obvious - they need to start draining these open looks...

Quote from: vogue65 on Today at 03:15:53 PMShaka has a boss.
If the boss wanted transfers, the boss would get transfers.
Sorry, that's probably a little too dramatic.
O.K., if an academically qualified player with a strong basketball resume, good references and recommendations wanted to transfer and he would demonstrably fill a need, he would be signed. 
Now to find such an individual.

If Shaka wanted transfers, Marquette would accept transfers. Why is this so hard to understand?

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 07:59:22 AMThis is just misguided. Shaka could use the transfer portal all he wants - he just doesn't want to.

And this team was ranked in the top 10 just a year ago.

Stop being so dramatic.

Shaka has a boss.
If the boss wanted transfers, the boss would get transfers.
Sorry, that's probably a little too dramatic.
O.K., if an academically qualified player with a strong basketball resume, good references and recommendations wanted to transfer and he would demonstrably fill a need, he would be signed. 
Now to find such an individual.

Northwestern could not get WI turnovers but if Marquette can like TCU did and Marquette makes 3s we have a chance

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on Today at 01:49:42 PMRemind me - why did McKay transfer out?  Was it his position/role?

Yes, he came assuming he would be a 3/4 wing, but Buzz saw him better suited at the 5. They also weren't sure Otule would be back that year, so that might have impacted the minutes he'd get. So he went to Iowa State where he played two seasons entirely at the 5.