Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on Today at 04:26:53 AMThere's a Chicos on the Producers list.

Yeah, it took me awhile because I don't know Scoopers' real names, but I finally got it.

I've gone from looking forward to the movie to not a shot in hell of seeing it.

Quote from: forgetful on December 01, 2025, 11:27:55 PMSerious question. Has there ever been a wore missed kick attempt than happened tonight?

Did anyone address what happened?

He looked like some of my tee shots, but at least my driver bounces off the grass and hits the ball.

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 08:03:56 AMWhen Al was coach. He'll they kicked Kentuckys ass with Crean and Wade in the elite 8.
So yeah there is no reason we cannot be on an even footing. But right now many things have to change.

We may have won some games against Kentucky over the years, but MU has never been on their level in terms of resources at the program's disposal and ability to invest in players.

Since I started this thread, I feel compelled to make one more comment.

It is obvious that many of you share my frustration and declining enthusiasm. It is truly hard to watch this team and see them lose to teams like Dayton, Maryland, and Oklahoma. I shudder to think how lopsided the score may be in the Purdue game - or maybe even the WI game. The team will start the BE season with a losing record, and I will say again that it is hard to imagine more than a handful of conference wins.

I would be perfectly ok with a bad season as long as the youngsters were getting lots of playing time and showing obvious improvement. But, I have doubt that Owens is ever going to really come around, and Hamilton simply does not look like a guy to anchor the front line of a  BE team. Parham may continue to improve, but I am not sure how high his ceiling really is. That leaves James and Stevens and another group of freshmen for next year.

I do not fully understand how much money MU has to pay players, and I think the whole pay system has really messed up college sports. Perhaps Shaka really limits himself to high school recruits simply because it is the cheaper way to go and money is limited. Maybe the new reality is that conferences like the BE and A10 cannot remain relevant, but I certainly hope not.

For this year, I will watch games when it is convenient to do so but will make no special effort to do it.

RGV? Shaka needs to be concerned about retaining the fan base as well as players.

Quote from: rgoode57 on Today at 09:17:34 AMI think it interesting that some describe Shaka as a "great recruiter." I'm not so sure about that. Yes, he has recruited some nice players and a couple of really, really good players - Tyler and Chase. But, other than those two and probably Nigel James, I have trouble identifying an outstanding player he has brought to MU. That's three really good players in five years. His other really good players (Oso, Stevie, and Kam) were Wojo recruits. Yes, Shaka convinced them to stay at MU, but, truth is, he did not identify them and bring them to MU. Three really good players in five years is not going to result in a really good team if you refuse to use the portal. On the other hand, there is a fairly long list of Shaka recruits who either did not pan out at all or who are not the players they needed to be.

Yeah being in the guy's final 3 and then re-recruiting him to stay means he never identified and recruited him.

I actually agree with this sentiment but every time it's made people ignore that Shaka almost had Oso at Texas, or have flat out not included Joplin.

Let's dive into Shakas 4* recruits' rankings via 247

Egbuonu: 75
Johnson: 147

Stephens: 78
James: 86
Phillips: 105
Ian: 111
Sheek (after reclassified): 119

Owens: 76
Parham: 94

Tre: 95
Zaide: 105

Chase: 135

Joplin: 84
Ellis: 86
Kam: 107
Stevie: 115

Oso (because Shaka did try to recruit him to Texas): 81

his "range" has basically stayed the same based on objective talent evaluators and isn't different than what MU generally gets. I'm more worried about the growth and development than identifying talent, or he's inordinately great at identifying  busts

Quote from: forgetful on December 01, 2025, 11:27:55 PMSerious question. Has there ever been a wore missed kick attempt than happened tonight?

Do punts count?
Sean Landetta, 1986 NFC Championship game.

Quote from: rgoode57 on Today at 09:17:34 AMI think it interesting that some describe Shaka as a "great recruiter." I'm not so sure about that. Yes, he has recruited some nice players and a couple of really, really good players - Tyler and Chase. But, other than those two and probably Nigel James, I have trouble identifying an outstanding player he has brought to MU. That's three really good players in five years. His other really good players (Oso, Stevie, and Kam) were Wojo recruits. Yes, Shaka convinced them to stay at MU, but, truth is, he did not identify them and bring them to MU. Three really good players in five years is not going to result in a really good team if you refuse to use the portal. On the other hand, there is a fairly long list of Shaka recruits who either did not pan out at all or who are not the players they needed to be.

He did recruit Jolp, while at Texas

I think it interesting that some describe Shaka as a "great recruiter." I'm not so sure about that. Yes, he has recruited some nice players and a couple of really, really good players - Tyler and Chase. But, other than those two and probably Nigel James, I have trouble identifying an outstanding player he has brought to MU. That's three really good players in five years. His other really good players (Oso, Stevie, and Kam) were Wojo recruits. Yes, Shaka convinced them to stay at MU, but, truth is, he did not identify them and bring them to MU. Three really good players in five years is not going to result in a really good team if you refuse to use the portal. On the other hand, there is a fairly long list of Shaka recruits who either did not pan out at all or who are not the players they needed to be.

If MU is spending 6 million on this roster, they could get the same results spending 600K. Hopefully, someone sees the light and cuts their losses with the 2026-27 roster.

This is a truly discouraging article to read, but I really appreciate it. I guess it forces me to accept the team for what it is - the group that can't shoot straight. What puzzles me is how this came to be. Did Shaka actually not realize what kind of team he was putting together or is it a surprise to him too?