Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on Today at 08:59:11 PMMaybe his coach should have known better than to put him in the position where he needs to be the next Kam or TKO. He's clearly not capable of it, so why would his coach not recognize that?

Other Big East coaches seemed to think he was capable of being 1st Team Big East and they have 3 seasons of tape to come to their conclusion.

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 08:56:44 PMIt's pure comedy if you don't think part of this team's problem is the guy who is supposed to be your best player has a 24.4% eFG in conference play and takes 28% of your team's shots.  And he hasn't been very good defensively either.

If Tyler Kolek and Kam Jones had these kind of numbers as seniors they would have been getting shredded.  Why should Chase get a pass?  Kam stepped up into Kolek's role/filled it well.  Chase started the year well against cupcakes, but hasn't been close to being able to fill the role Kam vacated.  And Chase has Nigel breaking down the defense consistently.

LOL!

OK I'll be the dolt in your bit.

LET'S FIRE THE IDIOT WHO ASSEMBLED THIS TEAM FOR SHAKA!! I BET THE BADGERS ARE BEHIND THIS CONSPIRACY TO GET SHAKA!

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 08:55:13 PM1. Who built the roster that required Chase to be the #1 guy?
2. Who recruited and developed the players that can't make layups?
3. Who recruited and developed the players that can't make open 3s?

I get it..Shaka's the scapegoat for all of it.  But, his faith in the guys being able to make pretty easy degree of difficulty 3's and at the basket looks wasn't misguided.

Do you think the guys didn't work on their games in the offseason?  Certainly a reasonable coach wouldn't think with more work and experience a player is going to get worse.  Seems that's happened with Chase. Ben.  Zaide, though I think Zaide was likely an internal chemistry issue with somebody(s) on the team.

Shaka has recruited more shooting with Nash Walker, Ian, and Michael Phillips..and gotten a rugged guy who can be a go to kind of guy to get a basket - Deonte Burton 2.0 (maybe) in Alex Egbouno.  So it's not like he hasn't taken some steps to add better shooters to the program.

Maybe his coach should have known better than to put him in the position where he needs to be the next Kam or TKO. He's clearly not capable of it, so why would his coach not recognize that?

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 08:36:57 PMThis is some great, hall of fame level comedy.     

It's pure comedy if you don't think part of this team's problem is the guy who is supposed to be your best player has a 24.4% eFG in conference play and takes 28% of your team's shots.  And he hasn't been very good defensively either.

If Tyler Kolek and Kam Jones had these kind of numbers as seniors they would have been getting shredded.  Why should Chase get a pass?  Kam stepped up into Kolek's role/filled it well.  Chase started the year well against cupcakes, but hasn't been close to being able to fill the role Kam vacated.  And Chase has Nigel breaking down the defense consistently.

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 08:30:12 PMWildly unfair to place blame on our highest paid player, who was voted 1st Team Big East by league coaches?  For Chase to be a 79.1 O-Rating against Tier 1 opponents and 93.4 against Tier 1 and 2?  Ben Gold is a 93.2 against Tier 1 and 96.6 against Tier 1& 2 - also very disappointing stats.  Not to mention Ben's 1-13 shooting from 3 in conference play - yet even with that poor of shooting his O-Rating in conference play is 106.2 and Chase is at 69.2

Our 2 pt FG Distance of 3.8 feet in Number 2 in D1.  We are getting open looks from three.  Missing shots you expect to make can really spiral quickly and compound negatively in other ares of the game.

In my view its on the players to put the ball in the basket, particularly when they are getting good open looks from 3.

Easy to make Shaka the fall guy for everything, but at some point you also have to put some blame on the players too.  And, going nuclear on a coach who has done really well in his first 4 years after 10 years of mediocrity at best at MU seems "wildly unfair."

1. Who built the roster that required Chase to be the #1 guy?
2. Who recruited and developed the players that can't make layups?
3. Who recruited and developed the players that can't make open 3s?

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 08:30:12 PMWildly unfair to place blame on our highest paid player, who was voted 1st Team Big East by league coaches?  For Chase to be a 79.1 O-Rating against Tier 1 opponents and 93.4 against Tier 1 and 2?  Ben Gold is a 93.2 against Tier 1 and 96.6 against Tier 1& 2 - also very disappointing stats.  Not to mention Ben's 1-13 shooting from 3 in conference play - yet even with that poor of shooting his O-Rating in conference play is 106.2 and Chase is at 69.2

Our 2 pt FG Distance of 3.8 feet in Number 2 in D1.  We are getting open looks from three.  Missing shots you expect to make can really spiral quickly and compound negatively in other ares of the game.

In my view its on the players to put the ball in the basket, particularly when they are getting good open looks from 3.

Easy to make Shaka the fall guy for everything, but at some point you also have to put some blame on the players too.  And, going nuclear on a coach who has done really well in his first 4 years after 10 years of mediocrity at best at MU seems "wildly unfair."

Your point is wildly foolish so I'll keep it simple. There are other players and coaching decisions that are much more to blame for our ineptitude than chase's struggles. 

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 08:30:12 PMWildly unfair to place blame on our highest paid player, who was voted 1st Team Big East by league coaches?  For Chase to be a 79.1 O-Rating against Tier 1 opponents and 93.4 against Tier 1 and 2?  Ben Gold is a 93.2 against Tier 1 and 96.6 against Tier 1& 2 - also very disappointing stats.  Not to mention Ben's 1-13 shooting from 3 in conference play - yet even with that poor of shooting his O-Rating in conference play is 106.2 and Chase is at 69.2

Our 2 pt FG Distance of 3.8 feet in Number 2 in D1.  We are getting open looks from three.  Missing shots you expect to make can really spiral quickly and compound negatively in other ares of the game.

In my view its on the players to put the ball in the basket, particularly when they are getting good open looks from 3.

Easy to make Shaka the fall guy for everything, but at some point you also have to put some blame on the players too.  And, going nuclear on a coach who has done really well in his first 4 years after 10 years of mediocrity at best at MU seems "wildly unfair."

This is some great, hall of fame level comedy.     

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 08:30:12 PMWildly unfair to place blame on our highest paid player, who was voted 1st Team Big East by league coaches?  For Chase to be a 79.1 O-Rating against Tier 1 opponents and 93.4 against Tier 1 and 2?  Ben Gold is a 93.2 against Tier 1 and 96.6 against Tier 1& 2 - also very disappointing stats.  Not to mention Ben's 1-13 shooting from 3 in conference play - yet even with that poor of shooting his O-Rating in conference play is 106.2 and Chase is at 69.2

Our 2 pt FG Distance of 3.8 feet in Number 2 in D1.  We are getting open looks from three.  Missing shots you expect to make can really spiral quickly and compound negatively in other ares of the game.

In my view its on the players to put the ball in the basket, particularly when they are getting good open looks from 3.

Easy to make Shaka the fall guy for everything, but at some point you also have to put some blame on the players too.  And, going nuclear on a coach who has done really well in his first 4 years after 10 years of mediocrity at best at MU seems "wildly unfair."

The buck stops...over there somewhere. 

Quote from: panda on Today at 06:55:58 PMSo if Chase plays better, that makes up for the massive holes elsewhere in the roster? I don't think so.

The problem the last year and a half is much more than Chase Ross and it's wildly unfair to place blame on him.

And yes - I do let him go (IF) he declines a massive change to his roster from this season. Why hang onto him for another season with the same roster only for a marginal improvement on this season and then let him go? That's another wasted year.

Wildly unfair to place blame on our highest paid player, who was voted 1st Team Big East by league coaches?  For Chase to be a 79.1 O-Rating against Tier 1 opponents and 93.4 against Tier 1 and 2?  Ben Gold is a 93.2 against Tier 1 and 96.6 against Tier 1& 2 - also very disappointing stats.  Not to mention Ben's 1-13 shooting from 3 in conference play - yet even with that poor of shooting his O-Rating in conference play is 106.2 and Chase is at 69.2

Our 2 pt FG Distance of 3.8 feet in Number 2 in D1.  We are getting open looks from three.  Missing shots you expect to make can really spiral quickly and compound negatively in other ares of the game.

In my view its on the players to put the ball in the basket, particularly when they are getting good open looks from 3.

Easy to make Shaka the fall guy for everything, but at some point you also have to put some blame on the players too.  And, going nuclear on a coach who has done really well in his first 4 years after 10 years of mediocrity at best at MU seems "wildly unfair."