What about the friends we make along the way?

Dybantsa is the #1 pick.  He can do it all. 

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 06:52:55 PMCan you point me to a sport where the main objective is to win?

I think the main objective is relationships. Or is it growth?

Clemson has 9 pts in the 2H in 13 mins. 

Quote from: onepost on Today at 05:27:51 PMYou're clearly referencing me, but this absolutely is a strawman.
Again, never did I say or intimate that Shaka needs to come out and admit he's stupid and his philosophy failed and the team he assembled is terrible.

Respectfully, it's not always about you.

Quote from: 1SE on December 06, 2025, 04:08:44 PMYes, an experiment that would have been cool had it succeeded but clearly hasn't.

But might as well fess up to that publicly now - maybe you get a few guys to transfer out which opens up some roster slots to bring 2 or 3 guys in.

Quote from: KingKolek on December 06, 2025, 08:04:56 PMI find myself growing increasingly frustrated after each postgame as Shaka rolls out the same cliches, the same excuses for why his team continuously fails to execute. And I ask myself each time, "Is he so daft that he doesn't understand this is absolutely not working?"

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on December 07, 2025, 12:18:50 AMI don't disagree that we shouldn't solely be looking to a post game presser for answers, but I think somewhere, in some way, Shaka needs to acknowledge that his way of doing things is the cause of this and he's willing to change.

Quote from: willie warrior on December 06, 2025, 08:45:10 PMHe won't, because they are his boys.

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 06, 2025, 07:03:14 PMThis  isn't what fans want to hear right now.  We're not watching our kids play T-Ball. ... It's about showing some frustration or anger about how we're playing.    It's about being pissed that we look like one of the absolute worst teams in the country.

Just a few examples. Not a strawman.

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Quote from: onepost on Today at 05:27:51 PMWhat does bother me is how defiant and combative he's getting in these pressers when guys who are overwhelmingly in his corner propose tepid about questions the portal or "do you have a message for fans".

We agree.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 07:13:14 PMHonestly, I think I would question the smarts of a player who is willing to take 50 cents on the dollar to play for Marquette. MU and Shaka have to figure this out.

I get your point, yet not all Top 100 kids "hit" their first year or two as players - Oso didn't.  So, you cut a kid like that, and what is his earning potential at the next school after he flames out as a freshman and/or sophomore?  On the present roster, you could point to Tre Norman - think he would have earned more from whatever school he would have landed at if Marquette "cut" him after last season?  But instead he at least gets to earn some cash at MU and we can uphold a degree of our brand and strategy and point to that while recruiting.

Some* parents may value our way, versus simply the highest bidder.  But, no doubt, the landscape of college basketball has shifted massively in the last 4 years.

Thank you Pope Leo.

Love, White Sox Fans

Quote from: muwarrior97 on Today at 03:39:12 PMKilling it in Shot Quality Wins

Hang a banner?

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 07:00:52 PMI suspect if MU had someone come in with, hell, just a $100 million dollar donation for Men's Basketball, you may see a different approach.  In the linked article Kansas got a $300 million donation, Illinois a $100M donation.

You can fantasize all you want and think MU has a bunch of mega wealthy alums that care about basketball, but the truth is as compared to Power 4 schools - yeah, not so much.

So, what we can do is brand ourselves as a place where you won't get recruited over, we will invest in you, and give you time to develop as a player and person.  As the recruits quality increases (and it has with Nigel, Adrien, Sheek, Egbouno), maybe you can compete with Power 4 schools with payrolls of $20M and big time donors of $100M+.

Honestly, I think I would question the smarts of a player who is willing to take 50 cents on the dollar to play for Marquette. MU and Shaka have to figure this out.

Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 05:58:28 PMGotta be honest, I think Ben would have to be pretty sensitive to think that's "talking down" to him. To me, that's a very normal response.

Gotta be honest that high major players who are ultra competitive would be pretty sensitive lose faith in Shaka if he brought in a few transfers to fairly compete for playing time.