Quote from: Pakuni on November 23, 2025, 09:35:30 PMThis got me thinking, and I don't mean it as a swipe towards anyone, but if the hope is for Josh Clark to develop into a Kur Kuath-type ... why not just go get a Kur Kuath-type in the portal? Not saying they're necessarily a dime-a-dozen, but they're out there every year.
 
Seems more efficient and effective than spending 2-3 years of scholarship and resources (financial and otherwise) developing a guy who you hope becomes that type of player by the time he's an upperclassman. Why not just get someone who is that player now?

Shaka tried a traditional route, Marquette got lots of good press about it, it has been shown to not work great 2 years in. No point in going over that ad nauseam now.

Now come next year, or maybe one more year after... If it turns out this isnt successful, and he doesn't go to the portal, then this point is very very valid.

"For years" was inaccurate, so that's my bad.

Accurate: At 35 and with a beat-up body, Klay Thompson is no longer a very good basketball player.

But yes, he zapped Ja good, and the Memphis knucklehead no doubt will reflect on his inadequacies while he counts his $200 million.

Quote from: Dish on November 23, 2025, 09:59:19 PMInstead of firing Pete Carroll, the Raiders did indeed fire Chip Kelly.

Time to replace him with Brian Kelly, y'all.

Quote from: 1SE on November 23, 2025, 11:51:10 PMReally - every reason? You don't think getting a real big or PG from the portal last year as opposed to a bench stacked w "projects" would have made a difference?

Ok. Almost every reason.

I'm totally fine giving Clark 5-8 min every game from here on out. Sure, he will get worked in some games (see St Johns with Ejiofor) but will it be THAT much worse than Gold/Caedin?  Id give him the minutes with the potential upside down the road. Why not??

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on November 23, 2025, 10:56:42 PMYep. It's way too early to know if he will work out. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. All you and I did was post about Clark having an impressive 8 minutes on the floor against an unimpressive opponent. We did not say, imply, or speculate about anything other than commenting on those 8 minutes.

That was enough to trigger one rant in particular that he isn't good, how Shaka should have used that scholarship for a better player, that he will fail against the best centers in the BE, and that the ranter wants Clark to prove himself to him, etc.

Sure, if we otherwise had BE caliber players at all 5 slots - but we don't. FWIW I like Clark and think he has more upside than Hamilton, but you can't have two project 5s on a roster and no starter.

Quote from: MU82 on November 23, 2025, 10:25:32 PMWhat if Shaka thinks Josh Clark can be better than a Kur Kuath type? What if there are so few Kuath type transfers available that they are overpriced?

Like Pak, I don't know who these Kuath types are, how many there are, etc. I do know that Shaka identified a 7-foot 18-year-old that intrigued him. Over his first 4 years, Shaka gave me every reason to give him the benefit of the doubt on personnel matters.

Really - every reason? You don't think getting a real big or PG from the portal last year as opposed to a bench stacked w "projects" would have made a difference?

You also get 15 roster spots now.  You cant have 15 guys all expecting minutes, hell you cant even have 11 or 12 - there arent enough minutes to spread around.  I guess I dont see the issue in using one spot on a guy like Clark who is 7 feet and mobile and isnt expecting starter minutes early in his career?

There is plenty of room to add a long term piece like Clark and still add a transfer if needed.  This isnt an either/or scenario.

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on November 23, 2025, 10:50:08 PMFeel When Shaka arrived UCONN Creighton and Marquette were the strongest Programs in the Big East but feel that has changed since the ACC wanted to move their Tournament to Madison Square Garden and Saint John's has a deal with Madison Square Garden is my understanding. Yes Pitino and NIL has helped Saint John's but feel SJ's deal with MSG helps make SJ a strong program also.

You forgot about Nova.

Quote from: MU82 on November 23, 2025, 10:25:32 PMWhat if Shaka thinks Josh Clark can be better than a Kur Kuath type? What if there are so few Kuath type transfers available that they are overpriced?

Like Pak, I don't know who these Kuath types are, how many there are, etc. I do know that Shaka identified a 7-foot 18-year-old that intrigued him. Over his first 4 years, Shaka gave me every reason to give him the benefit of the doubt on personnel matters.

Yep. It's way too early to know if he will work out. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. All you and I did was post about Clark having an impressive 8 minutes on the floor against an unimpressive opponent. We did not say, imply, or speculate about anything other than commenting on those 8 minutes.

That was enough to trigger one rant in particular that he isn't good, how Shaka should have used that scholarship for a better player, that he will fail against the best centers in the BE, and that the ranter wants Clark to prove himself to him, etc.