Michigan was up by 15 and in control. Now Wisc goes unconscious from 3 and ties it.

Tired of this movie.

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on Today at 01:04:39 PMShaka can narrowly miss the tournament and stick around, but then he's officially on the hot seat and it's really difficult to get off of that. You have to go on a serious run for a string of years to not get fired for another bad season. For Shaka's sake, he needs to make the tournament and show everyone this year was just a blip.

Agree with some of this, but he should already be on the hot seat.

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on Today at 12:49:52 PMIf Marquette is not in the bubble discussion or higher. Fired.

IMO if no dance next year, he should be shown the door. Likely though, it will depend on how improved the team is over this year. I dont see that current roster with what is coming in will be enough to get them much over a .500 season. Unless Shaka can land 2 studs in off season. The team still needs a BEast level ass kicker underneath, a Backup PG and at least one wing 3 point shooter. James, Parham, Stevens, Clark, likely Owens, and incoming frosh/Redshirts could put MU close to .500 but at least 2 more studs are needed. 15-15, 16-14 next year are unacceptable, especially if non conference is filled with cupcakes. And maintaining his RGV philosophy is not getting it done. Doubt if he will go out and add at least 2 more studs.

Complete lack of focus from Michigan. 

Wow.  Vandy is spanking Florida.

Quote from: jesmu84 on Today at 12:08:18 PMBeing reported that India, France and Italy are negotiating directly with Iran to allow passage of their vessels through the Strait.

Interesting that those countries chose not to go through the US

Why could I see trump attempting to block these ships since they went to talk to Iran lol?

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 12:55:11 PMIt's OK if you don't want to answer the question.

Deflection lol.

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 12:50:13 PMHow do you define "underwhelming"?  That's a subjective term that means different things to different people, including the decision makers. 

You can't make the decision in a vacuum.  Each season is a data point and then you have to project the future with or without Shaka.

Again, unless next season is another sh#tshow, he shouldn't be on the hot seat.

How do you define sh#tshow? That's a subjective term that means different things to different people, including the decision makers.
And what's the point of having data points if each season is it's own, unique data point?

I think we know from program history that no coach will survive back-to-back losing seasons. So we can start there with the minimum Shaka needs to do to avoid firing. If we're on the wrong side of .500 this time next year, Shaka's seat is more likely to be empty than hot.
From there, I'd say it depends. Making the tournament should be the expectation, but whether failure to do so gets him fired depends on injury luck, how the schedule shakes out, etc. If MU wins 17 games but  doesn't make the tournament because Nigel and Royce each missed a few weeks, that's a mitigating factor in Shaka's favor. If we're playing in the Crown next year with a 17-16 record despite a healthy roster and the promised portal additions, it may be the end of the road. If we win 19-20 games but end up just on the wrong side of the bubble, he's likely safe.

I've read a whole lot here in recent weeks about how this team has three young studs to build around, at least one high-end freshman coming in, three promising redshirts joining the active roster, and Shaka ready and willing to add key pieces through the portal.
How are we thinking/accepting anything other than "Tournament or bust"?

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 12:46:19 PMIt seem most (all?) are in agreement that a repeat of this season's "unmitigated disaster" will cost Shaka his job; so the debate is really how bad can next year be to cost him his job. Miss post season? Below .500? 18 losses?

Personally, I think the chance of MU being so bad that Shaka is on the hot seat is too remote to spend time putting thought into the exact tipping point of dismissal.

Shaka can narrowly miss the tournament and stick around, but then he's officially on the hot seat and it's really difficult to get off of that. You have to go on a serious run for a string of years to not get fired for another bad season. For Shaka's sake, he needs to make the tournament and show everyone this year was just a blip.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 12:46:19 PMIt seem most (all?) are in agreement that a repeat of this season's "unmitigated disaster" will cost Shaka his job; so the debate is really how bad can next year be to cost him his job. Miss post season? Below .500? 18 losses?

Personally, I think the chance of MU being so bad that Shaka is on the hot seat is too remote to spend time putting thought into the exact tipping point of dismissal.

I agree with this.  But I do think there are some here that would be happy giving him the boot if Marquette misses the tourney next season, even if the team improves considerably.