This is what some people want, including a few posters above

https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lyzt2eal7c2m

Quote from: Shaka Shart on Today at 09:43:18 AMYou can convince people to be ok with less and lower quality of life if those that are different them that are the "enemy" are treated even worse.

THIS!

People are more than happy with higher grocery prices, increased unemployment and stagnating wages if it means arresting and deporting foreign and foreign-looking people, even if they are legal citizens.

Quote from: forgetful on September 13, 2025, 02:50:30 PMSo you link a NY-post article, whose only source is an anonymous "leak," where no evidence is provided, including comments that the roommate was not trans, and they weren't "partners." Other articles say neighbors say they had never seen anything to indicate that the roommate was trans, or that they were a couple.

Seems like an extremely reckless and un-sourced article that puts peoples lives at risk.

Still reckless?... or simply reality MM didn't want to report on?

Quote from: forgetful on Today at 09:32:03 AMBased on the charging document you are correct. I highlighted the above though for a particular reason. There is significant room for debate on whether anti- or pro- LGBTQ+ is a political ideology.

Given that there are LGBTQ+ supporters of Trump and the MAGA movement (admittedly not a lot), being pro- or anti LGBTQ+ does not align one with a specific political party.

But the problem we have, and what exhausts me right now, is that with all the problems in the world, there is so much effort to divide people based on demographics. Pushing the idea that some humans, based on who they were born as, are not worthy of the same rights, privileges, compassion and love. And that so many people are perfectly ok with this intentional division and hate, because they perceive the identity that they belong to as winning. In that world, we all lose.

You can convince people to be ok with less and lower quality of life if those that are different them that are the "enemy" are treated even worse.

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 07:28:06 AMAccording to the charging document Tyler Robinson intentionally selected Charlie Kirk because of Tyler Robinson's beliefs and perception regarding Charlie Kirk's political expression. We know that much is true. We know Charlie's beliefs regarding the LGBTQ community and we know Tyler's hatred toward Charlie so how could it not be a contributing factor knowing Tyler's love for his transgender room mate.

I am sure Tyler's motive will come out at trial if there is one.

Based on the charging document you are correct. I highlighted the above though for a particular reason. There is significant room for debate on whether anti- or pro- LGBTQ+ is a political ideology.

Given that there are LGBTQ+ supporters of Trump and the MAGA movement (admittedly not a lot), being pro- or anti LGBTQ+ does not align one with a specific political party.

But the problem we have, and what exhausts me right now, is that with all the problems in the world, there is so much effort to divide people based on demographics. Pushing the idea that some humans, based on who they were born as, are not worthy of the same rights, privileges, compassion and love. And that so many people are perfectly ok with this intentional division and hate, because they perceive the identity that they belong to as winning. In that world, we all lose.

Quote from: Jockey on Today at 09:06:21 AMI am sure that you are not too bright.

I guess you did not read the charging document.

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 05:03:22 AMI am sure that the suspect who was in love with a transgendered person was the motivating factor in killing Charlie Kirk. Leaving the politics aside this is a very disturbed individual who could not contol his rage and should be held accountable for his actions. It was personal for him.

I am sure that you are not too bright.

Candace says the texts/digital conversations are fake.

I don't know if they're fake.

But they're awfully strangely worded and structured for a super online young guy

I love the way Shaka embraces this stuff. I think we've had a few of these recruits.

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 07:28:06 AMAccording to the charging document Tyler Robinson intentionally selected Charlie Kirk because of Tyler Robinson's beliefs and perception regarding Charlie Kirk's political expression. We know that much is true. We know Charlie's beliefs regarding the LGBTQ community and we know Tyler's hatred toward Charlie so how could it not be a contributing factor knowing Tyler's love for his transgender room mate.

I am sure Tyler's motive will come out at trial if there is one.

Given how poorly Casino Kash and Ding-A-Ling Dan have run the investigation, defense lawyers ought to have an easy time avoiding trial