8 games in and it's clear Caedin is not ready to contribute at this level.  There could still be something there his junior and senior years.

However, if Shaka doesn't continue to cut his minutes, let alone continues to start him, he should be questioned. 

Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 12:32:17 PMYour first point is your own strawman, though. None of us would be opposed to that. Most of us would welcome it.

And re: your second point, I think we'd all agree that the recruiting needs to get better.

I've heard Shaka himself get dismissive and act like we want him to go completely the other way, as well as from at least some avid supporters. I agree though, most thoughtful fans see the middle ground.

Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 02:54:11 PM100%. And those things you mentioned need to improve a lot. To me, it's 50/50 whether they do or not.

I'm more 31/69.

Quote from: panda on Today at 02:54:19 PMTurkey on Saturday is a wild move vander. My respect for you grows by the second

I'm not the cook but I fully supported the decision. 

Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 02:49:26 PMI don't agree, but even if I did it has nothing to do what I said. I'm not saying we're going to compete for the Big East next year. We're not. But I don't think it's hard to see how this team improves a lot next year either.

It's very hard to see

Quote from: 1SE on Today at 01:23:02 AMDepaul with more high major wins than hs on their resume 8 games into the season not noy bingo card

Right now they're better than us. 

Quote from: We R Final Four on Today at 01:58:34 PMNo....my theory is I would defer to the head coach who sees DO practice, and watch film, and understanding his assignments on a daily basis, as opposed to a guy on the internet who thinks he knows more than  the coach.
If DO isn't getting it in practice.....he isn't going to be given the opportunity to "prove" him wrong in games. That's absurd.

LOL. Are you intentionally misunderstanding my point because you want yo argue or are you just not getting it?

Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 02:52:16 PMThis is one of my biggest pet peeves in this debate. Who cares they they were transfers? Those transfers played like normal college freshmen and sophomores their first year. Nobody projected them to improve like they did. Some wanted them to transfer out.

It doesn't matter if he takes transfers. It matters that his talent identification improves. This year's freshman class looks a lot better than the last two. That needs to continue. If it does, we'll be fine. If it doesn't, then I'll have concerns about Shaka. But it has nothing to do with if he's willing to take a transfer or two.

I agree with what you're saying about transfers. It's about talent identification.

But so much of the identity has been about no transfers, and well, the biggest success has been with transfers.

But we gotta stop looking into guys who we're in recruiting battles with prep schools for. That's bad.

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 02:43:16 PMActually had Wagyu steak on Thursday and it was unbelievable.  Turkey tonight so will keep you posted. 

Hope you had a nice holiday (sincerely). 

Turkey on Saturday is a wild move vander. My respect for you grows by the second

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 02:51:05 PMBig East is definitely mediocre but we've had nice leads against Maryland, Dayton, and Oklahoma and found ways to lose them all with extremely poor play, bad decision-making, and bad coaching. 

I love Shaka and am probably one of the more optimistic posters here but I haven't seen anything yet that makes me feel like we'll have the consistency to win more than 8 Big East games.  Really, really hope I'm wrong on that.

We can't shoot from 3, we convert in the paint, we can't defend, and we can't turnover good teams.  Other than that, everything is great. 

100%. And those things you mentioned need to improve a lot. To me, it's 50/50 whether they do or not.