will there be a Big East in 5 years? Will there be an Ncaa in 5 years? Will there be a competitive Marquette Basketball program in 5 years?


Someone let me know so I can go gamble.

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Quote from: panda on October 22, 2021, 02:18:04 PMI'm probably a bit higher on this team than others.

I see Morsell who's been looked at as a 3rd or 4th option during his time at Maryland as a guy who will be allowed to flourish on the offensive end this year.

Justin Lewis is poised for a leading role and should be one of the better players in the conference.

Kur Kuath was the odd man out in a guard heavy rotation, but played good minutes when on the floor.

Tyler Kolek was the A10 freshman of the year. Phenomenal passer and spacer of the floor. Always makes the right play. Decent outside shooter and crafty scorer inside the arc.

Elliott coming off the bench will play good minutes and knock down outside shots. Something this team will need desperately.

The question marks come with the freshmen. I do think we need to get consistent contributions from two of the high school newcomers to challenge for top 5. We'll see but I do think Mitchell and Joplin are good candidates.

Where you at boi @Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: panda on September 06, 2021, 09:03:33 PMI like the spine of this team. I think everyone is really going to love Kuath and Morsell. KK will be one of the best interior defenders in the conference and everyone is familiar with Morsell's game. Those two will set the tone and let the younger players grow into their own game.

A lot of us have been programmed by the Wojo droids to "trust the process." This team has the possibility to overachieve (top 5 in BE) if they all buy in defensively.

Where you at boi @Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: panda on May 11, 2021, 03:06:54 PMSigning a guy like Martin now would be the same trap Wojo fell into. Chasing individual talent without any long term idea of team and program growth/identity.

Exciting player but it's not what we need for next year. Morsell on the other hand.......

Cowardly @Vander Blue Man Group where you at boi

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 04:19:30 PMHe was at best only an OK point guard his first season at Marquette. He couldn't shoot from the outside, he wasn't a good finisher at the rim, and he couldn't go to his right. He averaged 6.7 pts on almost unbelievably bad 32% shooting, and defenses didn't respect him. He had several crises of confidence, leading Shaka to bench him during games numerous times.

I'm sorry, 82, but this isn't quite true. Hard to understand calling the guy who led the Big East in assists - and was 9th in the nation - "at best only an OK point guard." Tough crowd, tough crowd.

Yes, his shooting was a disaster his first year - making the calls by some Scoopers to move him off the ball bizarre - but in terms of running an offense, he was pretty much elite from the get-go.

Was he really benched often? His game log tells a different story. From the first game in December on, he played less than 25 minutes only once, while playing 33+ minutes eight times. Overall he was third on the team in minutes, just 0.4 mpg behind Morsell for second. I don't doubt there were times he was struggling and Shaka sat him down, but it doesn't seem like that happened often, or that those "benchings" lasted very long. Some may suggest he was just rested, as was everyone else on team.

Quote from: panda on Today at 03:48:50 PMInitial query - Would a coach with a modern approach to roster building lead us to a 20 loss season this year?

Your illogical response - You're right, no coach who has built their roster with transfers has had bad seasons since NIL and the portal have come around.

It's a challenge to debate with you because of such hyperbolic responses. We're in this position now because Shaka carried deadweight for far too long before cutting bait. That isn't some blessing in disguise. It's a major red flag that I hope is rectified this off season. I would love to be proved wrong but I have every right to be concerned given how Shaka torpedoed this program by his own stubbornness.

And the answer is, of course, nobody knows.  What we do know is you suggest that it's impossible to have a horrendous season by having a "modern approach to roster building," even though every single season there are coaches building rosters with a "modern approach" that have horrendous seasons.

If this was multiple years in the making (see: seasons evaluated by the half season, or the calendar year...at least until it fits your narrative, and then when it doesn't it's absurd to suggest an improvement in the second half of a season...), then the "modern approach to roster building" might not land Nigel or Stevens or sees Parham transfer out.

Did the portal additions scare off our one good returning player or our two stud freshman recruits?  Did they hit like Michigan's are hitting?  Or did they miss like Georgetown's?

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 04:36:44 PMYou might want to re-read my post as you addressed neither of the points. 

I didn't question what you claimed to say about OMax when he transferred.  I figured it's a coin-toss about whether that was true or not and I don't care enough to waste time looking for it.

OMax was a top 100 recruit. Oso was as well.

Not accusing you of defending anything, VBMG, but Shaka deserves all the criticism for thinking he could build the center position off of Hamilton and Clark, two zero star recruits. That was indefensible hubris on his part.

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 04:36:44 PMYou might want to re-read my post as you addressed neither of the points. 

I didn't question what you claimed to say about OMax when he transferred.  I figured it's a coin-toss about whether that was true or not and I don't care enough to waste time looking for it.

Coward - stand behind your words if you're going to come at me. Go slink back to your corner son