Quote from: Charlotte Warrior on November 20, 2025, 05:31:25 PMThat so many people are losing their sh@& is beyond funny to me.  Shaka is a great coach, builds a program the university and the Alumni can be proud of, does it right and really connects with the players.  I'm glad we stay out of that portal mess, I don't want a "rent a team".  I'd sign up to have him coach my kids every day of the week.  We are having a down year, things will improve, guaranteed.  Step back and take a breath, enjoy the season.  The sky is not falling.  2025 may not be our year, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.  Sheeesh

This sentiment is pollyanish.  I agree that the sky is not falling. One really bad year is acceptable, especially if the talent level was gravely miscalculated by Shaka. But, MU fans will get restless with this. The season ticket base will go down. Things like this happen quickly.  Shaka has the ability  to turn this rebuild around in short order if he uses the tools at his disposal and has the stomach for difficult conversations with current players.

It's all about proper player evaluation going forward. He hit the bullseye or at least around it with Kolek, Omax, Joplin and Ross.  Wojo hit the bullseye on the rest.  Cannot afford too many more recruiting misses.  We all want Shaka to succeed.  But he, alone, will have to unearth the talent for the next top 10 run at MU. 

Hope it happens.  TRGV!   

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 20, 2025, 06:49:30 PMI get we're all super pissed.  Based on what we've seen, this team is going to have a rough season.  And the "continuity"/not utilizing the portal doesn't make a lot of sense moving forward.  All that said, we can't give up on our guys or Shaka.

Agreed.

Also, Shaka and MU have confidence in each other that allows him the freedom to try the no transfer strategy. Kudos to both Shaka and MU. This season maybe disappointing, but I admire the guts to try it.

Quote from: brewcity77 on November 20, 2025, 07:13:01 PMFor people who can't grasp the "bad for a year" comments, we are 17-13 in our last 30 games, starting with Dayton last year. 4-12 against kenpom top-70 (aka bubble or better) teams. Sorting T-Rank, we played like the #41 team in the country last year from Dec 13 to the end of the season, this year have played like the #82 team in the country, though that's a small sample size.

Brew,

What are your remedies?  Are we bereft of talent or are there any changes we can immediately make?   I might try 4 guards with Ben or Royce. 

Quote from: Jay Bee on November 20, 2025, 01:03:12 PMPass da blunt, yo

Yeah, should match the "Get NCAA Automatic Bid" number because no way is there a 1 in 4 chance we dance as an at-large.

For people who can't grasp the "bad for a year" comments, we are 17-13 in our last 30 games, starting with Dayton last year. 4-12 against kenpom top-70 (aka bubble or better) teams. Sorting T-Rank, we played like the #41 team in the country last year from Dec 13 to the end of the season, this year have played like the #82 team in the country, though that's a small sample size.

What would be the 1st thing you would do moving forward if you were in charge? I would permanently retire the hard hedge 40 feet from the rim.

The court in the Bahamas is completely unacceptable. I remember our guys slipping last year there.

I just can't get over his growth mindset comment. COLE behavior

What I'm most surprised about is the lack of player development fron our returning guys. 

Quote from: MU82 on November 20, 2025, 05:44:28 PMMaybe Butker "knew about the girls."

Butker was vehemently against Epstein's antics. The girls belong in the kitchen