Quote from: MUBurrow on November 17, 2025, 07:35:05 PM5/92.5 feels like safe business by the M's.  I'd take the under on him ever topping 20 SBs again and the defense is bad, but as a hitter he does pretty much everything right.  He'll turn 29 in the middle of next season - no reason he can't hit in the .280s with low 20s bombs and low strikeout numbers over the life of that deal.

I actually was pleasantly surprised with the number of very good plays he turned in at first base after Seattle got him. He booted a couple of routine-ish plays, but overall that's not much of a concern for me. At 28, he should just be entering his prime, and I expect him to be a solid middle-of-the-order hitter for several years.

But yeah, the stolen base thing ... how freaky was that?

Quote from: withoutbias on Today at 11:02:08 AMThis nails it.  The idea that some article by a fan is what caused Marquette's decision makers to decide to move on from Wojo because a couple hundred fans might see it is some sort of inflated sense of self worth.

Well, brew said above that he didn't think it was the only reason. But also, the article was referenced by college basketball people on Twitter, so it wasn't simply "a couple hundred fans."

Furthermore, I have heard from others that it encapsulated arguments that boosters and others had been making to the administration for awhile. Though I do think there was more momentum after the loss to Georgetown than people think.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 11:13:42 AMDoes Saturday's attendance count as an unofficial? If so, us and Iowa State are the only 2 with multiples. Seems like it could be a good thing.

I doubt it was even a visit for him.  He was just at the game.  But he has already taken (at least) one unofficial visit.

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on Today at 11:10:26 AMMore visits on the horizon for Davis, including a return visit to Marquette.

https://x.com/DushawnLondon1/status/1990796566127653381?t=21BOFsSZI9Jombp07B8HZQ&s=19

Does Saturday's attendance count as an unofficial? If so, us and Iowa State are the only 2 with multiples. Seems like it could be a good thing.

More visits on the horizon for Davis, including a return visit to Marquette.

https://x.com/DushawnLondon1/status/1990796566127653381?t=21BOFsSZI9Jombp07B8HZQ&s=19

Quote from: mug644 on Today at 10:53:02 AMBrew, I think your take is somber and the situation could possibly play out like that, though I don't think two under .500 seasons would quite get us there. Two areas of skepticism:
--while The Case Against served a bit as the last straw, you seem to be downplaying the negativity around Wojo that had been present for at least a couple of years, centered on his decent recruiting but poor coaching. Certainly the administration was well aware of the Projo v Nojo positions among the fanbase.
--you sound as though you are already drafting your Case Against, even despite your hope that Shaka's model would work.

Regardless, I can't imagine Shaka being so stubborn or the administration being so short-fused that there wouldn't be a change to no-portal model before any sort of firing happened. If, after two under .500 seasons happens, there will be pressure to change. But, Shaka wouldn't ever get another P5 job if he refuses to change  if his approach is not successful enough for MU. And, MU is so enamored with Shaka as THE person representing the university that they will push him to adapt before they push him out.

This nails it.  The idea that some article by a fan is what caused Marquette's decision makers to decide to move on from Wojo because a couple hundred fans might see it is some sort of inflated sense of self worth.  Coupled with the fact that posts are suggesting the coaching staff went out of their way to make brew look bad by talking up bad basketball players and making him look foolish for predicting a second place finish in the Big East.  You need to understand why coaching staffs talk up the players they do in the offseason.  Did you really think Sean Jones and Caedin Hamilton were going to be better players than Chase Ross and Ben Gold?  There's a reason you heard very little about Chase and Ben.  They are established players.  We know they will be good.  Sean and Caedin are guys we need to step up, so the coaching staff is pumping out positive stuff to the media.  If Caedin was going to be an All Big East player, there's no way the staff is shouting that from the top of the mountain before the season.  There's a strategy to these things.

Quote from: Viper on November 17, 2025, 06:21:48 PMat some point down the road, if things are not working out, he'll have to...or he has a new gig.

We'll see. The university president recently heaped major praise at Shaka's philosophy and poked fun at programs that largely (or completely) build through the portal.

I suppose it eventually will come down to how he and other power brokers define "things not working out."

Kager K was also in the house

Brew, I think your take is somber and the situation could possibly play out like that, though I don't think two under .500 seasons would quite get us there. Two areas of skepticism:
--while The Case Against served a bit as the last straw, you seem to be downplaying the negativity around Wojo that had been present for at least a couple of years, centered on his decent recruiting but poor coaching. Certainly the administration was well aware of the Projo v Nojo positions among the fanbase.
--you sound as though you are already drafting your Case Against, even despite your hope that Shaka's model would work.

Regardless, I can't imagine Shaka being so stubborn or the administration being so short-fused that there wouldn't be a change to no-portal model before any sort of firing happened. If, after two under .500 seasons happens, there will be pressure to change. But, Shaka wouldn't ever get another P5 job if he refuses to change  if his approach is not successful enough for MU. And, MU is so enamored with Shaka as THE person representing the university that they will push him to adapt before they push him out.

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 09:49:21 AMThe Hornets have been looking for their "big man of the future" forever. And they had him in the 2022 draft: Jalen Duren.

But they immediately traded Duren to the Pistons and drafted Mark Williams two picks later.

Duren is averaging 20.3 points and 12.3 rebounds this season for the Pistons; he is part of the young core that has taken the Eastern Conference by storm. Williams was either hurt or ineffective during his short time with the Hornets, who couldn't wait to dump him on some other team.

And that is just one example of why the Hornets always suck.

We'll see how much by storm the Pistons take the NBA by when they aren't playing a G League schedule.  Their wins are over the Rockets (good win), Celtics, Magic, Mavericks, Grizzlies, Jazz, Nets, Sixers (x2), Wizards, Bulls, Pacers.