Quote from: vogue65 on December 22, 2025, 11:16:03 AMNobody mentions the admission standards.
Why did Buzz leave?
He couldn't recruit.
Why did Al hang it up?
He said, because he couldn't recruit.

The Big East was set up to compete with the Ivy League.  So here we are, enjoy.

You forgot to put this in teal or include /s at the end.

Admissions standards? MU will admit nearly any hoops recruit who meets NCAA qualifier standards and shows the ability to remain eligible and graduate, as well as stay out of trouble. Buzz had a bunch of guys who were barely eligible every year and were involved in a couple of very embarrassing off-court incidents. He also left because he wasn't willing to see how the new Big East would be. It turns out he was wrong about it.

Why did Al hang it up? Dude, that was 48 years ago. It has no bearing on anything today.

The Big East is set up to be the Ivy League? If that were the case, A) DePaul, Xavier, Seton Hall, and St. John's wouldn't have been included, and B) let me know when the Ivy League produces Men's Basketball four national champions in ten years

Quote from: Pakuni on December 22, 2025, 11:23:22 PMIs this real? Holy fanboy.
My guy, criticism comes with the job. Shaka is enough of a grown ass man to understand that. And when a program is on pace to produce its worst season in nearly 40 years, the coach is going to face heat for that. Shaka also understands that. He's not curling up in bed at night crying about message boards.

There's not one program of Marquette's stature in the country where the coach wouldn't be getting criticized for a season like this. Not one.

Character revealed? Good Lord. Sports fandom is not a test of one's character. It's entertainment. You're not tough and brave for enduring sh*tty basketball.

If Shaka were to rage quit because his feels got hurt by fans not politely applauding a historically bad season, I have little doubt Marquette basketball will have a brighter future than he does.

You and Brew don't understand leverage.  MU needs Shaka far more than Shaka needs MU.  Many Scoopers overestimate where MU sits in the college basketball hierarchy in this day and age.  Past program history - that dating back further than 5 years doesn't mean much of anything in this new era.

Not being at a Power 4 school is a big disadvantage. Shaka could leave MU after the season, make more money at a Power 4 school, have a bigger budget for NIL, and certainly wouldn't have any worse kind of douchebag fanbase than what you and the growing number of MU fans are proving to be.

And PS - No crap Shaka is a "grown ass man." A grown ass man who is talented, with the kind of options Shaka would have if MU eliminated his buyout - doesn't stick around and pour into an entitled, ungrateful, and ignorant fanbase.

And give me a break - I'm not suggesting I'm "tough and brave for enduring crapty basketball."  What I am is grateful for what Shaka has achieved at MU, his character, and overall resume - and am not somebody who is going to throw someone under the bus/show no loyalty due to 1 bad year of performance against 4 extremely good ones.

Quote from: muwarrior69 on Today at 10:29:33 AMMaybe that is why we have the team we have this year. We spent money like a top 40 program before the NIL/Revenue sharing era. Not sure if we'll be in the top 40 going forward, but if Seton Hall can put a competitive team with supposedly less resources than we have on the court there is no reason to lose hope; unless the Administration does not want to spend that kind of money anymore. Again, it will be an interesting off season.

The administration aren't the ones spending the money? I've questioned it too but by all accounts it sounds like we have whatever money available that we need to build a roster. It even sounds like there is more available that we just don't need to use because the roster doesn't warrant it.

We are no different than any other Big East school in regards to NIL and likely in the top half of the league when we want to be or need to be.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 09:50:59 AMIf Marquette doesn't have the resources to complete then they are absolute fools to do a multi-million dollar buyout a serviceable coach. The facts and actions of MU don't support the notion MU is one of the "have nots". MU acts and spends money like a top 40 program.  

Maybe that is why we have the team we have this year. We spent money like a top 40 program before the NIL/Revenue sharing era. Not sure if we'll be in the top 40 going forward, but if Seton Hall can put a competitive team with supposedly less resources than we have on the court there is no reason to lose hope; unless the Administration does not want to spend that kind of money anymore. Again, it will be an interesting off season.

Paint touches had an article last year with Kams on off splits.  This year was actually really predictable if we had all paid attention.

We all bought in to Shaka being able create High major NCAA talent out of mid to low major talent over one summer. But there was no indication last year that this team could win without Kam, let alone Stevie and Jop.  I believe we were ranked in the 125 range with the on off splits.  It's bearing out.

Maybe someone on paint touches can post the article again.

The main parallel between now and the Dukiet years is weak administration.  Where Dr. Lovell made it clear that top tier hoops was a priority, there has been no such vision or strategy from the DEI dumbo currently in charge.  (in fact, no vision or strategy on anything at all). Is Mr. Kim Ah DEI in a position to sit down with Shaka and say - hey, you need to do things differently because the school depends on MU hoops being in the top 25?  Nah. 
In that case, a strong AD would be the one to do so.  In MU case, it seems the coach selected the AD rather than the AD selecting the coach... so again - he's not the one.
What would remain as the only possible input is the input of some major contributors -if they can get through the above two filters - but contributors have a history of not having unified messaging.  And that would be enough to make a coach just leave rather than just do things a bit differently and get back to winning.
I fear MU basketball doesn't get fixed until there is a real University President and a very strong AD. 
(note well that Raynor was not historically weak, but by late 80's the times had passed him and he was no longer effective - he was not even present enough to be effective)

Quote from: Shaka Shart on December 22, 2025, 10:18:15 PMWe know Liam McMorrow sure was!

Deep cut.  Well done.

Quote from: CountryRoads on December 22, 2025, 07:59:20 PMOdd decision from the Badgers to put their freshman Kinziger in for the first time this year, essentially lifting his redshirt.

I also found that odd, so I checked the box score.  Learned Blackwell didn't play.  Through further investigating, I learned Blackwell was a late addition to the injury report.

Perhaps he was injured in practice and might miss some extended time.  With Carrington also hurt, and Janicki struggling so far, they probably need the guard depth.

Quote from: 1SE on Today at 02:47:28 AMIf Marquette simply doesn't have the resources to compete in this era then that absolutely sucks but so be it - but I want a coach that is at least willing to try with all the resources at their disposal. It would be great if Shaka is that guy because there is so much else to like about him, but if he's not going to do what it takes to put us in the best position to win each season, then see ya.

If Marquette doesn't have the resources to complete then they are absolute fools to do a multi-million dollar buyout a serviceable coach. The facts and actions of MU don't support the notion MU is one of the "have nots". MU acts and spends money like a top 40 program.   

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 08:08:09 AMUnless he's picking early retirement, Marquette will have a say. Though dropping the buyout to zero would be a say Marquette could have that wouldn't surprise me.

First, I have zero inside knowledge. I'm just a fan.

I can't think of another reason for such a shocking decline in the performance of Shaka and the team other than some off the court issue that has derailed this season. If we were looking at a .500 team, I'd come to the conclusion that Shaka's experiment simply failed. Not fun, but move on. But this season is, justifiably, being discussed as one of MU's worst ever and there are no injury issues.

I can't believe Shaka has simply lost all his sense of coaching and talent evaluation, unless there is something going on the we don't know about.

IDK, maybe I'm guilty of being too much of a Shaka fan and can't accept his significant flaws.