Feels like there are two truths.

1) This team was ass in the first 2.5 months of the season and that level is unacceptable at Marquette, and if repeated would result in any coach getting fired, whether Shaka, Jesus Christ, or Al McGuire.

2) The team has been much better in the past month, even if the W/L column isn't stellar we've seen the best efforts including in losses, and there are legit pieces (NJ, Stevens, Royce) to build a winner around.

Neither of these should be controversial, but if a discussion can't start with those two irrefutable truths, it probably won't get far without devolving to dishonesty and name calling.

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 10:36:31 AMNot sure if already mentioned but Nigel James was named Big East Freshman Of The Week again

He's no Owen Freeman!

Wrong thread earlier
Not sure if already mentioned but Nigel James was named Big East Freshman Of The Week again

Not sure if already mentioned but Nigel James was named Big East Freshman Of The Week again

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on Today at 10:28:14 AMhttps://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/

74+% with no criminal convictions, with "many of those convicted committed only minor offenses, including traffic violations."

This was not my question.

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on Today at 09:20:25 AMWikepedia and Reuters are not the ideal references for truth   but we can disagree with civilty andi appreciate that

LOL

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 10:18:08 AMYeah, predictions don't always come true. Like our turnover rate not increasing by 9+% (currently 2.3% worse) or our TO% decrease being not as bad as offense (currently 2.5% worse).

Or our defense being "good" (current #102 rank is worst of Shaka's career).

Yes, I was wrong on this team. Others were wrong on this team. But you were also wrong on this team. If you're going to try to old takes exposed people, might as well include yourself.

Understand, this wasn't a gotcha post. It was a direct response re: "if you watched the open practices then you knew this team sucked" or whatever...  which isn't true. That's all. So, I quoted comments in the open practice thread from this summer. Nothing more, nothing less.

As far as your TO% comments about what I said, you're confused. I was talking % change (CY / PY year, not CY - PY).

Our offensive turnover rate is 17% higher than last season. Our defensive turnover rate is 12%. #SpotOn #GreatCall

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 09:54:25 AMDo you have numbers on this breakdown? -->

Unlawful presence people who have zero criminal offenses of any type vs.
illegal entry people (crime) and/or other criminal offenses?

https://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/

74+% with no criminal convictions, with "many of those convicted committed only minor offenses, including traffic violations."

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 10:21:23 AMI don't know if you can really call Wrightsil a "miss," considering he had season-ending surgery and never played CBB again.

If being injured makes Owen Freeman a bust ...