Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 01, 2026, 11:10:52 PMNot even the slightest acknowledgement about here and now that this year isn't just down, but is on the fast track to being historically bad for this program.  Last year was good for the first month and then we basically couldn't beat anyone good.  One win over a top 100 school all of calendar year 2025. 

It is brutal...a brutal reality the state of this proud program. 

Buddy wants to say we can't ignore what happened 11-14 years ago, but then wants to ignore what happened 18 months ago because we have an "incompetent" coach (who has coached in a Final Four and won a Big East regular season and Tournament title in the last 3 years).

Quote from: panda on January 01, 2026, 04:37:42 PMI meant to say yes but autocorrect changed to he's.

I've never seen a Marquette team this bad. It's not because of an injury. It's not because of an unexpected player departure. This roster is years of roster malpractice engineered by Shaka Smart. This product is completely his own doing. I don't think the school will act this year, but he should be gone. This roster, in game decision making and ultimately results this year are so grossly unacceptable I cannot believe anyone can actually defend it.

It's completely possible and rational to believe this season is grossly unacceptable AND that he deserves the opportunity to fix it.

Quote from: DoctorV on January 01, 2026, 09:20:55 PMThis is a brutal take.

If someone was brought in here in 2021 with the express intent to bring Marquette a Big East Championship, BET title, and multiple 2 seeds in his first 4 seasons we would all be laughing our asses off that it's a complete joke.

Shaka did that. There is likely no one else they could have brought in that would have done that. I know I know "you don't know that for a fact... there are plenty of capable hires..." blah blah.

What the man did to the basketball program as a new hire in his first 4 seasons was way beyond what we could have dreamed of.

How in Gods green Earth could you turn on that so quickly?

Not even the slightest acknowledgement about here and now that this year isn't just down, but is on the fast track to being historically bad for this program.  Last year was good for the first month and then we basically couldn't beat anyone good.  One win over a top 100 school all of calendar year 2025. 

It is brutal...a brutal reality the state of this proud program. 

Quote from: panda on January 01, 2026, 03:11:50 PMRespectfully - I don't think it's hyperbole to say players from one of the worst Marquette basketball teams of all time should not be rostered next season.

I can't speak to the freshmen aside from their freshmen and it's highly unlikely they'll contribute.

As for the players on the roster now, I would only keep Stevens and James. No one else should stay. I could also be convinced on parham but he is iffy.

That's an unrealistic and unnecessary overreaction. 

Great game.

KenPom just unveiled a new stat, the average distance of a 2-point shot.

MU is the second closest in the country at 3.8 feet from the basket. Yet their 2p% ranks 271st nationally.

Contrast this to St. Louis. They are first in the country at 3.7 feet, but their 2p% ranks 9th.

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In a perfect world, Shaka wouldn't bring up this WSB Tweet, but instead reach back to when Dan Hurley made a derogatory comment about his Huskies letting some nobody named Tre Norman make a big contribution. And Tre would get some PT and respond with the game of his life. It would light a fire under every underachieving player on this team, which is just about everybody, and the team could position itself for salvaging this impending shipwreck. Everyone here has written him off. I wish someone, anyone on this team would just go off and take matters into their own hands and set an example.

Quote from: DoctorV on January 01, 2026, 09:20:55 PMThis is a brutal take.

If someone was brought in here in 2021 with the express intent to bring Marquette a Big East Championship, BET title, and multiple 2 seeds in his first 4 seasons we would all be laughing our asses off that it's a complete joke.

Shaka did that. There is likely no one else they could have brought in that would have done that. I know I know "you don't know that for a fact... there are plenty of capable hires..." blah blah.

What the man did to the basketball program as a new hire in his first 4 seasons was way beyond what we could have dreamed of.

How in Gods green Earth could you turn on that so quickly?

Sometimes, a coach will luck out with one player.  Dwyane Wade made Tom Crean's whole career.  That Big East Championship, BET title, and consecutive 2 seeds?  Years from now, especially if he gets his chance to shine in the NBA, I think history will show that Tyler Kolek was the driving force for all of MU's success during those two seasons, not Shaka.  For the sake of MU fans, hopefully that doesn't prove true.

That was a clear face mask.

The Ole Miss QB played three years of D2?  Wow.