Quote from: JWags85 on Today at 01:33:48 PMTo be fair, Kent's WAR is almost 10 pts higher than Murphy despite playing one less season.  Mostly because Murphy went from a stud to really mediocre in the span of 2 years in his early 30s and was not good his last few years in the league (had a negative WAR his last 3 years I believe).  Whereas Kent was a really consistent solid hitter up until his final season.

So while I don't agree that Murphy is greatly more deserving than Kent, I think its pretty absurd that Murphy isn't in regardless.  Only multiple time MVPs not in the HoF besides Murphy are Roger Maris (who had 2 amazing years and a bunch of decent to good ones) and Juan Gonzalez (who had a very up and down career and also got dinged for steroid allegations).  I think career WAR is what kills Murphy.  He had a huge peak, but that back half of his career has him sitting around guys like Josh Donaldson, Curtis Granderson, Miguel Tejada, and Ryan Braun.   All really good players, but outside of Braun, nobody with a real HOF shout.

Good points. Murphy in his prime was his era's Mike Trout in his prime, but yes, his numbers fell off the cliff.

Quote from: wadesworld on December 06, 2025, 08:50:35 PMRing is a monster and will be hard to replace. Haggard is really good. She could probably transfer up a level if she wanted to.

Ring redshirted a year so she should have another year, or is she portaling?

Hattie Bray will be hard to replace on the court and in the locker room.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on Today at 12:55:40 PMor play fewer conference games (they currently play five).

here's an idea, ND: join the ACC full time. Then you'd have had an opportunity to make the conference championship game and get the automatic bid.

Starting next year, they don't need to. So there's no incentive for it.

ND is used to getting everything handed to them on a golden platter. I'm really enjoying the tears streaming down their whiny faces now.

Quote from: 1SE on Today at 01:04:15 PMOr EGB awards in overtime Q4 victories?

You should write Shaka a letter.

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 01:14:49 PMHaggard in the portal...only to have MU announce they signed the U19 Brazilian national team setter.  She looks very good.

Kentucky probably saw how well she did and reached out.

I was really impressed with Parks during the tourney. She's got serious potential to be a mainstay up front. Hopefully, she stays around and adds some strength and power. 

Accuracy is still a major issue - he may be the least accurate passer in the league. I would guess he was under 50% on drops where he didn't escape to the right.

That's why he had a 79 rating compared to Love's 120.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 11:19:35 AMIt was a great play made by Nixon. I was only pointing out that the play was a good play that got a receiver open in the endzone and failed due to a poor pass. It could be fair to say Johnson failed by asking too much of Williams, but the play itself was solid.

I have to say, as a Bears fan, even in a loss, the fact that this is the conversation that is being had around the play and the finish is so refreshing and fun.  Last season, or earlier in the year, its tons of ammunition for "Caleb just doesn't have it" and/or how Johnson can't win a close game.  Neither of which were necessarily fair, but such is armchair quarterbacking.  Instead its reasonable discussion on poor decisions/plays from otherwise good players/coaches, which happens to everyone in this league.

Quote from: Jockey on Today at 12:34:18 PMI am really looking forward to the game in 2 weeks. Caleb has one elite ability - throwing on the run going right. He was allowed to do it numerous times yesterday with great results. It will be a test of Hafley's chops to prevent him from doing that next time.

I think that is a bit of a short sell.  Williams has elite arm talent, that's been known since he was a prospect, which is why his accuracy issues were frustrating, cause he has a top tier cannon.  If you want to argue the only elite thing he does with said arm talent is throw on the run to his right, I suppose that is fair.

I'd also argue he's elite when it comes to escapability/pocket movement to avoid sacks.  He's one of the best Ive seen at it in years, that wasn't simply a big body that could shake off contact (like Josh Allen or Big Ben).  Though the challenge for Hafley is basically the same.  Having the pressure actually get home and not allowing Caleb to get out of the pocket, whether to utilize that throwing on the run ability or just extended plays with his legs regardless.

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 10:39:56 AMThat Kent is more deserving than Dale Murphy is pretty laughable.

To be fair, Kent's WAR is almost 10 pts higher than Murphy despite playing one less season.  Mostly because Murphy went from a stud to really mediocre in the span of 2 years in his early 30s and was not good his last few years in the league (had a negative WAR his last 3 years I believe).  Whereas Kent was a really consistent solid hitter up until his final season.

So while I don't agree that Murphy is greatly more deserving than Kent, I think its pretty absurd that Murphy isn't in regardless.  Only multiple time MVPs not in the HoF besides Murphy are Roger Maris (who had 2 amazing years and a bunch of decent to good ones) and Juan Gonzalez (who had a very up and down career and also got dinged for steroid allegations).  I think career WAR is what kills Murphy.  He had a huge peak, but that back half of his career has him sitting around guys like Josh Donaldson, Curtis Granderson, Miguel Tejada, and Ryan Braun.   All really good players, but outside of Braun, nobody with a real HOF shout.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 11:10:34 AMMU's offense is light years ahead of the defense. If we could shoot at a reasonable (not great or even above average) clip, we'd be significantly better. Shaka's offense (#120 PPG) looks fine to me, the defense (# 252 in PPG) is an abortion.

per game stats no matta.

This is some of the worst analysis I've seen ever.

Haggard in the portal...only to have MU announce they signed the U19 Brazilian national team setter.  She looks very good.