Quote from: hawk on Today at 12:43:44 AMIf we are Marquette perhaps we should be more understanding of each other.

hawk likes to use lots of words and tell us that he should understand us more.

Tough crowd but I get that.  I am less disturbed by the opinions of these posts as I am by the anger,attitude and disregard for the effort and talent of the plaers invovlved. I see no reason to asail the talent on this team as a pile of crap.  Life is simple not easy and success, however you define it is both difficult and fleeting.  I do have one question however and it is a question of balance.  Teams are allowed 15 players now instead of 13.  How can you decide in advance the better policy as a program?  If you recruited 13 players from high school every year and used two in the portal to fill gaps real or imagined or if you recruited 13 players from high school with the intention of playing them and 2 players every year to redshirt them for development, how could you tell which has the advantage until it has been a practice for at least 2 or 3 recruiting cycles?  I think it is simply too soon to pass judgement on either tactic.  I tjhink probably no coach wants 15 new players every year and over time every coach will dip into the portal somewhat.  Perhaps it is best just to wait until the waters settle over time to come into balance.  Under any circumstanmce being men and women of the Jesuit tradition maybe everyone should try to remain calm, not overreact to any one season and try to engage with the other in understanding and compassion.  If we are Marquette perhaps we should be more understanding of each other.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 03, 2025, 11:18:56 PMYou are that upset about something from like 3 or 4 years ago? It's completely unrelated to Marquette 26-27.

Marquette can compete for all league players in the portal. That's the point.

I'm not upset at all. I'm amused at how wrong you consistently are but refuse to admit it. It's not upsetting. It's laughable. And it wasn't 3 or 4 years ago, it was last season.

None of those guys is "all league." Certainly none is a "star." And you have absolutely no idea for whom Marquette could or couldn't compete - "easily" or not. But keep spinning.

Quote from: Captain Quette on December 03, 2025, 10:58:11 PMWorst mu teams I can remember:
1. This year by far
2. Buzz last year
3. 1991, KOs 2nd year

This is ridiculous. Buzz's last year was still a bubble team with a bit to go two of Wojo's were trash

Quote from: hawk on December 03, 2025, 09:48:36 PMO Captain my Captian,  I am sure that they do.  I can't speak for the staff but my guess is that they liked the incoming class especially James and Stevens.  I assume they anticipated a 10 man rotation lead by Gold, who as a senior would surely become a leader  be something like a 14 and 7 type player.  They guessed right with Ross.  They probably thougjt that Jones would stay healthy and play himself into shape.  If everybody coming back got just a little better the team would be up to the task of getting into the NCAA again and be ready to explode the next season.  I have no bones to pick with Shaka but I would given Wojo one more season.  His last year was his best coaching year in my opinion.  Post Howard he had a team that he needed to coach and not lean on talent.  I was put off by the vile anger that came with his dismissal.  Now you are disenchanted the the savior you all begged to hire.  I would ask that you consider this,  If Justin Lewis doesn't get hurt and miss 6 games in the middle of the conference season MU gets a bid and Wojo stays.  If Shaka doesn't lose a 3/14 matchup in the 1st round he doesn't get fired.  So you moved some chairs around and now you don't like the way it looks, how long until you demand a new hero?

Wojo was not a good coach. Did he deserve to get axed? Arguable, pending what standard you have for MUBB but I think it's fair to say that he was given ample time to prove himself and his highlight year ended in the most epic collapse of MUBB.

But when Justin got hurt we were .500 that team wasn't making the tournament if he was around. Additionally, most looks run were for carton Koby or Garcia so I think that's an excuse for a bad team that every metric showed was in fact a bad team.

As far as how long? Two years, Shaka is entitled to a down year maybe two. I'm off the boat after two unless he tries something huge to switch things up.

Quote from: MU82 on December 03, 2025, 11:11:07 PMIt's never enough for you to say something like, "Marquette could compete for good players in the portal." Which is something just about every Scooper would agree with.

You have to say they can get STARS. And not just get stars, but get them "easily."

You can't say the Weasels will contend. You have to say "top 3." And not just contend for top 3, but do so "easily."

It's silliness.

And then you get called out on your silliness, and so you quadruple down. Well done!

You are that upset about something from like 3 or 4 years ago? It's completely unrelated to Marquette 26-27.

Marquette can compete for all league players in the portal. That's the point.

It's never enough for you to say something like, "Marquette could compete for good players in the portal." Which is something just about every Scooper would agree with.

You have to say they can get STARS. And not just get stars, but get them "easily."

You can't say the Weasels will contend. You have to say "top 3." And not just contend for top 3, but do so "easily."

It's silliness.

And then you get called out on your silliness, and so you quadruple down. Well done!

Hawk - carpe diem and great thoughts on what the coaching might have been thinking. But almost a totally wrong analysis by the staff nonetheless. They were way off on this roster.

As to wojo, I was unhappy with him, especially his technical coaching skills but was OK giving him 1 more year. He was a good recruiter and had some good teams and never hit rock bottom like this.

Worst mu teams I can remember:
1. This year by far
2. Buzz last year
3. 1991, KOs 2nd year

Quote from: MU82 on December 03, 2025, 10:39:39 PMSpin spin spinny spin spin!

Weasels EASILY top 3.

There is 0 spinning. Marquette could compete for all league players in the portal. It seems pretty irresponsible that we don't when everyone else is. We did it with Morsell. Kolek became that too. Players that would undoubtedly make the team better. We can get those players.

Not sure what the last part has to do with anything related to Marquette 26-27.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 03, 2025, 09:20:00 PMAll of those guys that I mentioned would be top 2 players on our team and all league caliber. I consider that profile a star player. Much like Oso alongside Kolek, not the best, but all league caliber. That's what we need.

We could get players like that easily.

Spin spin spinny spin spin!

Weasels EASILY top 3.

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 03, 2025, 10:00:01 PMIf it does......Viper might have it.

His BIL definitely sent it to him.