Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 12:37:22 PMThe metrics are the metrics and we're 43rd in the country for the last month. If you want to ignore that then fine, but it doesn't make it less factual.

IF that continues for another month, that means we'll have won some road games. Maybe a home game against SJU or UConn. And finished the season .500 or better in conference in the last 12. That'd be a tournament/bubble team if you extrapolate out a full season.

The games played in November literally mean nothing for next year. The improvement since then has been clear and obvious.

Either way, we need a starting center and a solid guard/wing at minimum

And you're right ! We are playing better. Without the likes of Clark, Hamilton, Norman jones. Cut em loose and start fresh with 5 transfers.

Stolz may very well be capable of doing what Heiden did in "80 at the next Olympics.  It would take some training in the 10000m, but the kid is immensely talented. 

Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 12:37:22 PMThe metrics are the metrics and we're 43rd in the country for the last month. If you want to ignore that then fine, but it doesn't make it less factual.

IF that continues for another month, that means we'll have won some road games. Maybe a home game against SJU or UConn. And finished the season .500 or better in conference in the last 12. That'd be a tournament/bubble team if you extrapolate out a full season.

The games played in November literally mean nothing for next year. The improvement since then has been clear and obvious.

Either way, we need a starting center and a solid guard/wing at minimum

We're 3-6 in the last month lol

Quote from: panda on Today at 12:23:58 PMA bubble team whose best win is against providence and with losses to butler and DePaul? Sorry I don't think so

The metrics are the metrics and we're 43rd in the country for the last month. If you want to ignore that then fine, but it doesn't make it less factual.

IF that continues for another month, that means we'll have won some road games. Maybe a home game against SJU or UConn. And finished the season .500 or better in conference in the last 12. That'd be a tournament/bubble team if you extrapolate out a full season.

The games played in November literally mean nothing for next year. The improvement since then has been clear and obvious.

Either way, we need a starting center and a solid guard/wing at minimum

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 12:29:15 PMNo, it doesn't. Adding two quality starters and a rotation guy from the portal with expected returnees and redshirts would absolutely be enough to compete next season.

James
Transfer
Stevens
Parham
Transfer

Transfer
Sheek
Freshmen/non contributors from this year/deadweight.

Nowhere near enough depth to be anything more than a bubble team. Unless we absolutely knock it out of the park with the transfers. We'll be better than this year but what an ATROCIOUS benchmark.

When Council plays well Kansas is a major problem.  The B12 is no joke at the top. 

Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 12:26:10 PMI'd like to see 4 more spots open this spring and have 5 to work with. That's only a 3rd of the scholarships, so I'm not sure if that qualifies as a complete overhaul but that should give us sufficient flexibility to field a more competitive team from the get go next year. Even if they only add 2 or 3 more players, having an open scholarship or 2 would be nice if an opportunity arose at a random time. Don't see the value in keeping the dead weight around another year.

3 open spots is enough. You're not going to see that many departures to have 4-5 openings.

Quote from: panda on Today at 11:44:04 AMA 20 loss team needs a complete overhaul to compete. Otherwise you're relying on freshmen and sophomores ie same problem we have this year.

No, it doesn't. Adding two quality starters and a rotation guy from the portal with expected returnees and redshirts would absolutely be enough to compete next season.

Quote from: panda on Today at 11:44:04 AMA 20 loss team needs a complete overhaul to compete. Otherwise you're relying on freshmen and sophomores ie same problem we have this year.

I'd like to see 4 more spots open this spring and have 5 to work with. That's only a 3rd of the scholarships, so I'm not sure if that qualifies as a complete overhaul but that should give us sufficient flexibility to field a more competitive team from the get go next year. Even if they only add 2 or 3 more players, having an open scholarship or 2 would be nice if an opportunity arose at a random time. Don't see the value in keeping the dead weight around another year.

Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 12:19:06 PMI'm just a big believer that the team we have now is much different than the one we saw in the first two months of the season. We've been playing like a tournament/bubble team for a month.

If that continues, I don't think the first two months of the season mean anything. I'd be comfortable running it back (minus Tre, Sean, and Caedin).

Understand if you see it differently

A bubble team whose best win is against providence and with losses to butler and DePaul? Sorry I don't think so