Quote from: WhiteTrash on Today at 02:40:35 PMDespite a National Championship, some UofM alumni, and I assume administration are very embarrassed by the program. Seems like a good hire to reset the reputation.

You haven't met many UM alumni if you think they're embarrassed, have you?   

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 20, 2025, 12:52:58 PMNot true. This guy and Viper.

amen!!! They do suck...it's just that we suck more. A lot more.

Quote from: MuggsyB on Today at 11:03:21 AMElon,

This isn't your average bad season.  It's not a lot of fun as a fan to know that your season is over at the end of Thanksgiving weekend.  If we are a total non-factor next year, there is a zero percent chance Shaka is here in '27-28.  We literally can't be worse this year, especially with our pedigree.  Again, no one would be this depressed/upset if we were in the mix for an NIT berth.  This situation is entirely different and it just can't happen.  Regardless of our last 3 years of success.

It is becoming obvious that Elon is primarily just trying to push people's buttons.

Shaka has no idea or interest in the average fan's opinions. You don't become a P5 coach by reading message boards or listening to sports radio, maybe at all.

Shaka and the players all know this is results based professional sports. The concept that they are all oblivious to jobs being at risk is laughable. And, Shaka and his agent are 10X more aware of what this season is doing to his marketability than we do.

IMHO, I'd be shocked if Shaka doesn't change his strategy and is back to winning at MU.

You also skipped Owens who is a total wild card.

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 01:52:01 PMSounds like Kyle Whittingham is going to Michigan.
Really solid coach, but not exactly a sexy hire. And he's 66 years old, which means they're going to be doing this again in five years or less.
But if it's a stopgap, let's reset the culture kind of move, it's probably a good move.

Despite a National Championship, some UofM alumni, and I assume administration are very embarrassed by the program. Seems like a good hire to reset the reputation.

Quote from: Heisenberg on December 24, 2025, 08:59:38 PMPick up a few NBA cast aways before the new year and we can still make the Tourney!
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Breaking today...

Former Detroit Pistons second-round pick James Nnaji has enrolled at Baylor and is immediately eligible to play for the Bears' men's basketball team, Jonathan Givony reports -- a significant development and unprecedented path to college basketball.


https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/baylor-former-nba-draft-pick-james-nnaji/

Did Baylor have an opening or did they cut someone from the squad?

Quote from: tower912 on Today at 12:03:59 PMI don't want to diminish what Ben Johnson did in Detroit or what he is doing with the Bears.  But he and Campbell worked fist in glove on the Detroit offense.  Detroit is running essentially the same concepts and plays.   What we all saw yesterday is the difference between Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff.   Behind a sieve of a line that has him running for his life, Goff cannot come close to winning games.   Whereas Stafford could.   Goff needs a running game, needs play action, needs to have his feet set and the ball to come out on time.  None of which happened yesterday.

As a Bears fan, I will say that Campbell is great HC with an incredible resume of turning around a floundering organization. Campbell and the Lions are not fading from NFL relevance.

Any time you choose your QB and pay him market rates, it eventually puts in you in a tough spot.  Kind of an interesting dichotomy in Detroit right now.  Frustration over Goff's contract and Baez's contract bumping up against outrage that the Tigers don't just cough up the $400m that Skubal wants. Along with whether to re-sign Branch and Jack Campbell. 

Quote from: Pakuni on Today at 01:52:01 PMSounds like Kyle Whittingham is going to Michigan.
Really solid coach, but not exactly a sexy hire. And he's 66 years old, which means they're going to be doing this again in five years or less.
But if it's a stopgap, let's reset the culture kind of move, it's probably a good move.

He's only two years older than Cignetti.

And you are 100% correct this is a culture reset hire. He is what Michigan needs right now. A young coach like Fisch wasn't going to take the job when he didn't know who his AD would be, and Whittingham has a reputation as a stand-up coach without NCAA issues or out chasing co-eds and female coworkers.

But you never know what temptations may await him in the Big Ten. When I learned there were Gene Keady groupies back when he coached at Purdue, I knew anything was possible. 

From my perspective, this kind of season is probably the best opportunity for Shaka to do a soft RGV pivot to the Purdue/Painter model.

On the current team, how many returnees would you feel confident in as starters on a solid team for the 26-27 season? 

For me, it's just James although Stevens could also get there. 

My point is, aside from James, none of the potential returnees have shown enough to have earned that kind of role and/or minutes for next season.  This isn't like forgoing a transfer to replace OMax when you have a Joplin waiting in the wings. 

Yes, Shaka has absolutely painted himself into a corner but hopefully being one of the worst P5 teams in the country is enough to have him reconsider modifying (but not completely abandoning) his approach. 

Hypothetically:

PG: James
SG: Stevens
SF/SG: Impact wing transfer
PF: Parham
C: Impact transfer (one-year of eligibility)

Bench: Jones or back-up PG transfer, Pearson, Egbuonu, Miletic, Phillips, Walker, Clark, Johnston (RS).

Could be wrong but I'm going to assume Zaide moves on after the recent developments. 

Sean may not want to be a back-up...would he stay in that role?

I also don't mention Norman or Hamilton.  Ideally they both find new homes but I won't be remotely surprised if one or both are back.  If that's the case, where does another scholarship come from?

The overall point I'm making is adding two good starters through the portal with returnees and perhaps an impact freshman in Egbuonu could really change things for next season.

Or maybe this all just wishful thinking and Shaka stays the course and potentially goes down with the ship.