Quote from: wisblue on <strong>Today</strong> at 08:47:37 PMNo, but the listing of early road losses seems to be downplaying how ugly last night's game was. Several of those early road losses were preceded by some better games and others were followed by mediocre seasons.

I remember the ugly home loss against Ohio State in Williams' last year that foreshadowed a very disappointing season for a team that started with high expectations. Last night's game exposed some potentially serious weaknesses.

Totally understand.

Optimists can list early road losses that didn't end up short-circuiting an entire season. And pessimists can point to losses that did. And neither take would be wrong.

And I absolutely get the skepticism after last season.

Aside from trolls like Farley who hate MU hoops, we all want the same thing.

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on <strong>Today</strong> at 08:20:13 PMI'm not saying they will be an 11 seed. I'm saying they have plenty of talent to get themselves deep into a second weekend if they reach their potential. A 14 point loss on the road where your star point guard goes -30 or whatever he was, in November, is no indicator of what this team could be. Maybe it's time for them to put their big boy pants on and show it, but I think a lot of us have to do the same as fans. The panic after the first road game of the season as it relates to the season outlook is just silly.

I am not panicking. They don't have enough talent to be an Elite 8 team. Laughable thought.

Quote from: DoctorV on <strong>Today</strong> at 09:07:10 PMNice, no wonder you know ball.

Did he stress RGVs?

Sure. Most coaches at every level from high school up believe that building good relationships, striving for growth as players and people, and working toward victory are good things.

At MU, the whole RGV thing became a synonym for avoiding the trader portal - and eventually became a symbol for failure because of it - which is unfortunate.

Quote from: DoctorV on <strong>Today</strong> at 09:15:39 PMAny thoughts on Damarius? I must be missing something...

Seems like he does pretty well early but Shaka curtails his minutes

Has a goofy looking three point shot but otherwise played well last night. Not sure why Shaka would be down on him, if he is.

Quote from: #UnleashThePortal on <strong>Today</strong> at 05:45:05 PMI always love scoop the day after a loss.

Me too. I hate people who talk basketball. I wish people didn't watch games and at least didn't have an opinion on what they saw.

Quote from: MU82 on <strong>Today</strong> at 06:02:33 PMYeah, I usually like and agree with Hards Alumni's takes, but I'm not thrilled with declarations that so-and-so athlete "didn't seem to really care." Too subjective, and too based on emotion (vs actual data). And questioning an athlete's character and competitiveness based on, what? A facial expression or something? Seems over the top.

Any thoughts on Damarius? I must be missing something...

Seems like he does pretty well early but Shaka curtails his minutes

TRGVs

Nigel is clearly the best player on the team, full stop.

Adrien continues to improve though, which is great.

You can tell that Adrien really cares about Nigel and wants to see him get back to normal, which is a great sign for when he does.

Quote from: MU82 on <strong>Today</strong> at 05:38:54 PMYup.

I was fortunate enough to spend two seasons assistant-coaching under one of the most successful high school basketball coaches in North Carolina, and we never spent practice time on free throws or 3-point shooting.

The players were expected to get to the gym early and work on those things, and all of them did. We coaches also often would arrive early and work on individual stuff with the players, including shooting.

Each practice usually lasted 90 minutes and we had so much to go over. Time was precious, and our coach had an extremely detailed practice plan that accounted for every minute.

Nice, no wonder you know ball.

Did he stress RGVs?

Quote from: jesmu84 on <strong>Today</strong> at 05:57:54 PMWe didn't hold anyone accountable after the secession/treason of the civil war.

We didn't hold Nixon or admin accountable.

We didn't hold Bush or admin accountable.

We haven't held any Epstein associates accountable.

I just don't see it happening.

A few dozen were convicted and/or jailed as a result of Watergate. A handful were convicted out of Iran-Contra, though most weaseled out of jail time. As MU82 pointed out, hundreds were convicted after J6. And even the Criminal-in-Chief was convicted and facing sentencing until millions of American morons inexplicably voted for a pedophile to return to the Presidency.

Epstein is far from over as well, I would argue.