Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 01:33:11 PMYep. They offer better growth (in bank accounts) than us.

Just put "Financial" in front of every RGV word, and that's a strategy too $$$

Quote from: K1 Lover on Today at 01:23:52 PMI'm not in this argument, but it's worth pointing out that there's a difference between saying A) Shaka is a bad recruiter, and B) Shaka is not necessarily a "great recruiter".

It didn't seem to me like anyone is suggesting A. If they are, I wouldn't agree with that and believe the incoming classes will put that notion to rest. I think Shaka is a good recruiter that can definitely do better but simply chooses not to, hence B.

get in the argument...you are winning here

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 20, 2025, 09:53:08 AMMarathon is the best spot in the Florida Keys.  There's a tremendous stone crab bar on the gulf side next to the Keys Fisheries.  $3 claws. Big Pine Key is kind of fun because of the 🦌 and the No Name Pub.  Dillon's is s good sports bar in Tavernier and there's an NFL bar around marker 87 on the gulf side across fron Theater of the Sea in Islamorada.  I'm not a big Key Largo fan but there is a excellent h-hour woodfire pizza joint.  I can find it at some point.  Definitely go fishing, and if you're a diver I can give you a few suggestions if you want.  Kids will like Theater of the Sea.  There's a decent aquarium near Marathon and a Turtle Hospital.  They will like the 🦌 in Big Pine Key.  The Keys don't really have beaches.  Pennekamp in KL has some options for young snorkelers.

Marathon does have a lot to do. 
3 arrested after deputies say they were caught having sex in Winn-Dixie parking lot in the Florida Keys

Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 01:22:59 PMUntil Tyson chicken throws 900k at him to go to Arkansas.

Yep. They offer better growth (in bank accounts) than us.

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 01:02:46 PMSo now Shaka is both a bad recruiter and a bad coach. Crazy the success he's had in spite of him being bad at the two things a good college coach needs to be good at.

Well the current roster is built with 4 of his recruiting classes and the outlook for next year isn't looking good either, so he's done something wrong.

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 01:02:46 PMSo now Shaka is both a bad recruiter and a bad coach. Crazy the success he's had in spite of him being bad at the two things a good college coach needs to be good at.

I'm not in this argument, but it's worth pointing out that there's a difference between saying A) Shaka is a bad recruiter, and B) Shaka is not necessarily a "great recruiter".

It didn't seem to me like anyone is suggesting A. If they are, I wouldn't agree with that and believe the incoming classes will put that notion to rest. I think Shaka is a good recruiter that can definitely do better but simply chooses not to, hence B.

Quote from: Jay Bee on Today at 12:20:57 PM"My relationship with the staff is awesome. "

Until Tyson chicken throws 900k at him to go to Arkansas.

what is the chicos lore Im missing here?

So now Shaka is both a bad recruiter and a bad coach. Crazy the success he's had in spite of him being bad at the two things a good college coach needs to be good at.

Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on Today at 12:42:27 PMThe 2016-17 Texas Longhorns team (Shaka's second season at UT) finished 11-22.  I presume that this is the team that Shaka has indirectly referenced.  Six of the top eight players in minutes played from the previous season (NCAAT appearance) either graduated or left for the draft (I. Taylor went undrafted, had a cup of coffee in the NBA).  The 2016 recruiting class for Texas was a top-15 or so (ESPN was 11th, Scout was 6th and Rivals was 16th).  From that class, only Jarrett Allen was drafted, with the others having varying college careers.  None of that year's senior class were top-minute-getters on the team.  The team also very much had the bottom-fall-out; they were a preseason top-25 team, but they ended up losing thirteen of their last sixteen games to close out the regular season.  To date, it is the only losing season in Shaka's career, and it wasn't really even close to a .500 season. 

The following season, Allen declares for the NBA draft (top in minutes from that team) and and Tevin Mack (who was second in minutes) transferred.  Lots of turnover, but they made the NCAAT again.  Sims and Bamba were both on the roster as future NBA players,but Sims didn't play significantly that year, and its leading minutes-getter was a transfer (D.Osetkowski from Tulane).

Through 16 seasons as a head coach, Smart has only not made the NCAAT four times.  Once in his first year at VCU (CBI Champions), once as referenced above (11-22 year), once in 18-19 (as NIT Champions) and once during the COVID season (but they would have made the NCAAT that year).  He has never gone two straight seasons of not making the tournament, so the resume shows that he does, in fact, make necessary changes after a bad year. 

This is the kind of answer I was hoping for and too lazy to research myself.