Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 11:56:59 AMWhat's hilarious funny is

that same NAIA team had a contributor on it who went to Ole Miss.

So that kind of shoots a hole in your whole point - like Shaka whiffed on Wrightsill - the NAIA Player of the Year - and thus better than his teammate who went on to be a contributor at Ole Miss. Wrightsill got hurt/physically unable to perform. 

As Ben Steele said, Hamilton and Norman are not BE-level players even on a rotational basis. As a result, the only depth MU had was Phillips and Owens. Phillips played like a freshman all season and made a ton of mistakes. Owens was spotty but played a little better down the stretch. Owens still did not provide reliable bench play and still has a lot to prove. Clark remains a project who is pretty clueless on the floor. As a result, MU had only 5 guys who could play and it took the freshmen and Parham a number of games to start playing like BE players. The fault lies with Shaka in grossly overestimating the team's talent. Norman, Hamilton, and Jones, at a minimum, need to join Lowery.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on Today at 03:56:22 PMWe lost OMax and got a the same 2 seed with no transfers. I am going to go out on a limb and say he's not tier 1 due to losing him bringing in nobody and having the same results. Replacing Lewis needed a massive jump from TKO Oso & Kam (and OMax & Jop), that's Tier 1, dropping from a 2 seed to a 7 seed despite return 3/5 of the starters one of whom is pegged to be an all American, and top two bench guys is tier 1. Kam's insane splits on/off last year is tier 1.

Argue about Stevie, Omax, Darryl, Jop, Chase etc but to me...

tier 1 is clearly only TKO Kam Oso Lewis

O Max was Tier 1. We just had three other NBA quality upperclassmen the next year.

I'd argue O Max was harder to replace than Justin because of his versatility. Behind the other three, though.

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 02:08:11 PMExcept you are not a genius, but fancy you are. Doubt also if you really think; you don't respect history; you can't recognize logic; and likely have a below average IQ. But OK, you be you.

A leaking rectum discharges less foulness than your thoughts, Dung Willie

We lost OMax and got a the same 2 seed with no transfers. I am going to go out on a limb and say he's not tier 1 due to losing him bringing in nobody and having the same results. Replacing Lewis needed a massive jump from TKO Oso & Kam (and OMax & Jop), that's Tier 1, dropping from a 2 seed to a 7 seed despite return 3/5 of the starters one of whom is pegged to be an all American, and top two bench guys is tier 1. Kam's insane splits on/off last year is tier 1.

Argue about Stevie, Omax, Darryl, Jop, Chase etc but to me...

tier 1 is clearly only TKO Kam Oso Lewis

Quote from: jfp61 on Today at 02:41:33 PMSteive was worse than Omax when they were on the same roster together. But Junior and senior year Stevie is a better college basketball player than the best Omax year we got.

Doesn't turn it over. Generates turnovers by himself.

Just because Omax has more NBA potential doesn't make him better for college teams.

I disagree. Finding a player who can switch and defend 1-5 at a high level is more difficult than finding a high level perimeter defender. There's a reason OMax was a better pro prospect. OMax also hit the 3 well enough that the defense needed to contest it. Defenses left Stevie alone. I like Stevie as a player and a team leader but, IMO, OMax is a more unique player physically and harder to replace.

Quote from: JoanofArcMascot on Today at 03:13:51 PMn what universe is a -5 in four minutes of action not a problem?

I am not reading this whole thing, but will just answer this question.

I never claimed it wasn't a problem. I am claiming that the problem has been exaggerated by many posters who, you know, can just look up the data.

For instance...

Quote from: burger on Today at 04:48:19 AMWe lost this game with the 9 and 8 point runs by Xavier when Hamilton was in the game....

And...

Quote from: burger on March 11, 2026, 07:26:50 PMXavier had a 9 - 0 run this half and an 8 - 0 run in the first half when Hamilton was in the game.....

This didn't happen. We can have discussions about a player without resorting to exaggerations.

Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 01:00:11 PMNope.

The only time 18 played in the second half was he checked in at 15:07 and Marquette was up 48-47. He checked out at 13:37 and they were down 51-48.

It's an exaggeration, but reveals the truth of the matter ... playing Caedin typically hurts the team on the scoreboard. That's what the "it's no big deal if he plays five minutes" crowd seems to be missing. Those five minutes almost always create a scoring deficit, and we're not good enough to just be giving away points.

Quote from: CountryRoads on Today at 02:59:24 PMMiami OH should be out. If they truly tried to play a tougher schedule, then that sucks for them and wonder what can be done about it in the future. They're not a tournament team this year despite the record.

I do get this argument and I think if they'd lost even one game in the regular season I'd say leave them out. But 31-0 has to count for something, imo.

i ain't reading all that.
im happy for you tho,
or sorry that happened