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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: tower912 on September 08, 2022, 12:55:27 PM
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No sadness. A full life.
Long live the king.
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No sadness. A full life.
Long live the king.
A lot of sadness. She was a remarkable woman.
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Crazy that she was a teenager during the bombing of London in WWII, and was still vibrant in her late years. Truly an amazing life.
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Can't get Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad, out of my mind.
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A lot of sadness. She was a remarkable woman.
96 years will tend to have it's ups and downs. She lived a long life of extreme luxury.
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Couldn't live with an Irish Catholic being in office at the former colony.
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She was Queen when Kennedy was president, so.....
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She was Queen when Kennedy was president, so.....
Suspicious imo
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Ha
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Have to think watching Liverpool killed her
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She was Queen when Kennedy was president, so.....
Is it a coincidence that JFK, Jr. has been spotted recently and now the Queen is dead?
I think not.
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Qing Charles?
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Qing Charles?
There's a reason why the vast, vast, majority of people admired and respected Queen Elizabeth and think much less of her scions.
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Wow, she met 14 U.S. Presidents, per Dark Brandon's statement.
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A fascinating case study in the duality of a century of life lived constantly in the public eye and in high leverage positions. No better example of how legacies are rarely black and white but ever evolving shades of grey. She's viewed as beyond reproach and bathed in glory by some and pure evil by others. Neither are totally true but such is life.
An incredible legacy in many ways at the forefront of modern history at the very least.
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It actually wouldn't surprise me if the Monachy is finished within 10 years. Maybe sooner.
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She became queen as the war-devastated was getting back on its feet, served through the period when London became one of the world's preeminent financial centers and watched as Britain resumed its place of influence in the world.
Would love to have listened to Queen Elizabeth compare the greats among our American leaders -- Truman, Eisenhower, Reagan and Kennedy come to mind -- with some of our more recent offerings.
The Queen presided over the end of the Empire. She was a symbol of what Great Britain was and is. While I don't have a lot of respect for King Chuckie I of Tampax, Queen Elizabeth certainly left Chuckie with with an amazing legacy.
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It actually wouldn't surprise me if the Monachy is finished within 10 years. Maybe sooner.
I mean... it's in the constitution, so I doubt it. Charles will be around a couple of years, and then William will be King for decades. He's cut from the same cloth as his grandmum.
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Now's the time for the United States to take advantage of their leadership vacuum and finally take the provinces of Canada.
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She became queen as the war-devastated was getting back on its feet, served through the period when London became one of the world's preeminent financial centers and watched as Britain resumed its place of influence in the world.
Would love to have listened to Queen Elizabeth compare the greats among our American leaders -- Truman, Eisenhower, Reagan and Kennedy come to mind -- with some of our more recent offerings.
The Queen presided over the end of the Empire. She was a symbol of what Great Britain was and is. While I don't have a lot of respect for King Chuckie I of Tampax, Queen Elizabeth certainly left Chuckie with with an amazing legacy.
I don't think she was a big fan of American leadership for quite some time brother dgies. And yes, Chuckle is a British Fredo in comparison. She probably had tremendous anxiety over the last few years about a number of things going on in the world. I thought she'd live to 103.
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Will Meghan Markle be invited to the funeral?
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Now's the time for the United States to take advantage of their leadership vacuum and finally take the provinces of Canada.
They can keep the French province.
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They can keep the French province.
"The Frontiers"
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I don't think she was a big fan of American leadership for quite some time brother dgies. And yes, Chuckle is a British Fredo in comparison. She probably had tremendous anxiety over the last few years about a number of things going on in the world. I thought she'd live to 103.
Link?
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I don't think she was a big fan of American leadership for quite some time brother dgies. And yes, Chuckle is a British Fredo in comparison. She probably had tremendous anxiety over the last few years about a number of things going on in the world. I thought she'd live to 103.
I got in on the under of 102.5
Cashing that baby as we speak
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I don't think she was a big fan of American leadership for quite some time brother dgies. And yes, Chuckle is a British Fredo in comparison. She probably had tremendous anxiety over the last few years about a number of things going on in the world. I thought she'd live to 103.
Charles is Fredo compared to who? The Queen?
Charles is going to be fine - because the job is almost entirely symbolic.
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Charles is Fredo compared to who? The Queen?
Charles is going to be fine - because the job is almost entirely symbolic.
Agreed. I think Elizabeth guided the UK through a lot and was a symbol of strength and unity to them in some trying times in a way that Charles would struggle to...but that is far in the past and nothing he would be asked to do now would remotely compare
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Will Meghan Markle be invited to the funeral?
Since Wallis Simpson, the most detested person of the royal family at the time, attended the funeral of the Queens's father I would imagine Meghan attending the Queen's funeral unless she herself decides no to. Not sure how well that would sit with Harry though.
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Agreed. I think Elizabeth guided the UK through a lot and was a symbol of strength and unity to them in some trying times in a way that Charles would struggle to...but that is far in the past and nothing he would be asked to do now would remotely compare
Job is just covering for and paying off victims of the family and powerful these days
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The Queen did a great job over the years. Not talking about the Pomp and Circumstance. Rather, the behind the scenes measured leadership . As head of state of so many nations, she was sought after by prime ministers for her counsel and judgement of the important matters of the day.
Obviously her family was a train wreck, but that doesn't diminish her achievements .
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Charles is Fredo compared to who? The Queen?
Charles is going to be fine - because the job is almost entirely symbolic.
No, it's not.
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I don't think she was a big fan of American leadership for quite some time brother dgies. And yes, Chuckle is a British Fredo in comparison. She probably had tremendous anxiety over the last few years about a number of things going on in the world. I thought she'd live to 103.
I honestly don't know if this is some type of elaborate Scoop performance art or not.
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No, it's not.
??? What legal authority does the queen/king have?
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William Manchester says that for our parents 'generation 4 events stand apart :Pearl Harbor, the death of FDR, the election of 1948 and the JFK assassination. For me as a boomer I guess it would be the three assassinations and the night they announced that the Vietnam war was over. But the queen's death is a biggie.
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William Manchester says that for our parents 'generation 4 events stand apart :Pearl Harbor, the death of FDR, the election of 1948 and the JFK assassination. For me as a boomer I guess it would be the three assassinations and the night they announced that the Vietnam war was over. But the queen's death is a biggie.
I mean...9/11.
But his won't even register in my top 20 when all is said and done.
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Agreed. To me, this is nearly a non-event. I understand Britain needs to go through their grieving and mourning. I respect that and leave them to it. She wasn't my queen. She was 96. She had a full and glorious life. This isn't a tragedy or someone taken from us too soon. This is just an inevitable step in the circle of life.
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William Manchester says that for our parents 'generation 4 events stand apart :Pearl Harbor, the death of FDR, the election of 1948 and the JFK assassination. For me as a boomer I guess it would be the three assassinations and the night they announced that the Vietnam war was over. But the queen's death is a biggie.
But to Fluffy she's essentially just symbolic like other monarchs because she had "no legal authority" And even if you think she was essentially symbolic, there are levels and nuances to the significance of any figurehead. Also, Manchester should have clearly consulted Fluffy before he rendered his opinion on watershed events. Btw his Churchill biographies are the absolute best.
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Agreed. To me, this is nearly a non-event. I understand Britain needs to go through their grieving and mourning. I respect that and leave them to it. She wasn't my queen. She was 96. She had a full and glorious life. This isn't a tragedy or someone taken from us too soon. This is just an inevitable step in the circle of life.
With all due respect I think you are completely underestimating her influence and importance. Especially in the UK.
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But to Fluffy she's essentially just symbolic like other monarchs because she had "no legal authority" And even if you think she was essentially symbolic, there are levels and nuances to the significance of any figurehead. Also, Manchester should have clearly consulted Fluffy before he rendered his opinion on watershed events. Btw his Churchill biographies are the absolute best.
Entirely symbolic. Sorry you can’t grasp that.
But symbols can be important.
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I mean...9/11.
But his won't even register in my top 20 when all is said and done.
Forgot about 9/11. As a New Yorker I've really put it out of my mind.
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With all due respect I think you are completely underestimating her influence and importance. Especially in the UK.
With all due respect, I am rarely heartbroken over the death of nonagenarians.
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Entirely symbolic. Sorry you can’t grasp that.
But symbols can be important.
Ya....that's the whole point. No one will give a sht comparatively when Boris Johnson, Cameron, abd Blair pass away.
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Ya....that's the whole point. No one will give a sht comparatively when Boris Johnson, Cameron, abd Blair pass away.
Lol. So I say it’s symbolic. You disagree. Now you’re saying she’s an important symbol. 🙄🙄🙄
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Lol. So I say it’s symbolic. You disagree. Now you’re saying she’s an important symbol. 🙄🙄🙄
I'm saying that yes she was symbolic but had much more significance.
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I'm saying that yes she was symbolic but had much more significance.
So when I said this...
Charles is going to be fine - because the job is almost entirely symbolic.
Why did you reply "no it's not?"
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The Queen did a great job over the years. Not talking about the Pomp and Circumstance. Rather, the behind the scenes measured leadership . As head of state of so many nations, she was sought after by prime ministers for her counsel and judgement of the important matters of the day.
Obviously her family was a train wreck, but that doesn't diminish her achievements .
I think not being the hands on mom was her greatest regret. I think it is a lot tougher to be queen and a devoted mom then king and a devoted dad. Her devotion to the crown always took precedent over her duty to her family. I can't imagine being a child, teenager and young adult and have to schedule an appointment to see my mother.
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Entirely symbolic. Sorry you can’t grasp that.
But symbols can be important.
True and true.
And because symbols can be important, I’m not so sure “Charles will be fine”. Unlike his Mum, he’s a total goofball. The monarchy will be “fine” again (to the extent it matters) when William takes over.
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Will Meghan Markle be invited to the funeral?
Considering the number of cameras and reporters that will be there wild horses couldn’t keep her away.
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Prince Andrew
Princess Diana
Markle
I'd guess the Queen had a lot on her mind
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Considering the number of cameras and reporters that will be there wild horses couldn’t keep her away.
I gather you’re not a fan?
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With all due respect I think you are completely underestimating her influence and importance. Especially in the UK.
She was a trash human if you really want to get into it.
The monarchy is garbage. You're an American, not some subject of the crown.
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I gather you’re not a fan?
Like his pops, he only likes Traditionals
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In a family that contains the likes of Prince Andrew, Meghan is a saint in comparison.
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Twitter is ablaze. A video of Irish soccer supporters chanting about Lizzy being in a box, and the back and forth over a Carnegie Mellon University linguistics professors tweets about wishing QEII an excruciating death are fascinating. I don’t think I will ever understand the deep reverence and the unabashed hatred for the monarchy. It has been a lesson in perspective, the telling of history, how compassion is viewed. It is absolutely fascinating.
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In a family that contains the likes of Prince Andrew, Meghan is a saint in comparison.
Let that be her epitaph - on her gravestone the words:
Here lies Megan Markle
An awful person, but her uncle in law was worse
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And WTF is up with this ten day mourning period? Get the body in the ground and move on.
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Let that be her epitaph - on her gravestone the words:
Here lies Megan Markle
An awful person, but her uncle in law was worse
Is she an awful person? I have no idea.
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To the Brits the Queen is the keeper of British traditions. They look at her life as one of service to the Crown and the State. I don't neccessarily agree but that's their deal.
Re: her worldwide mourning, she;s like the Pope. Not everyone is Catholic but most recognize the role the Pope plays in the world.
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Many years ago , in the pre internet and cell phone era , I was on the Board of a Multi National Company that had significant interests in The UK
We were having some issues with leases renewals on a number of properties in the Mayfair area of London . The Corporate Secretary of the UK division was going on and on about the Crown this and the Crown that with respect to these negotiations . Some correspondence was passed around and it had stationary with a Crown as the letterhead , no name or anything else
So finally after much discourse and debate , as a typical “ Ugly American”, I raised my hand as said “ Who the Hell is this Crown that you people are all in fear of ?”
The Corporate Secretary , with classic English undershot jaw , said “ Sir, The Crown is her Majesty The Queen”
At that point it was explained that the Monarch controlled substantial amount of land and commercial property all throughout the UK. That it was held in Trust and managed for her benefit as well as the country
We also had similar dealings with the The Duke of Westminster also known as ,Earl Grosvenor, who owned the other land not owned by The Crown.
I learned then that all these sovereigns were essentially land owners from hundreds of years ago , who back in the day fielded their own army’s . As the world evolved they gave up their army’s but kept their property . Earl Spencer , Princess Dianas family ,owned substantial amounts of South Africa .
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And WTF is up with this ten day mourning period? Get the body in the ground and move on.
I saw all the cancellations and thought this at first too. But then again, we're not far from electing presidents who are actuarily unlikely to outlive their terms, so who are we to judge.
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I wonder how the Queen's death will affect the final season, 6, series the Crown on Netflix? At least the script writers and actress playing the Queen now knows she is going to die at the end.
I wonder if Oprah will play Oprah in one of the final season episodes.
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Many years ago , in the pre internet and cell phone era , I was on the Board of a Multi National Company that had significant interests in The UK
We were having some issues with leases renewals on a number of properties in the Mayfair area of London . The Corporate Secretary of the UK division was going on and on about the Crown this and the Crown that with respect to these negotiations . Some correspondence was passed around and it had stationary with a Crown as the letterhead , no name or anything else
So finally after much discourse and debate , as a typical “ Ugly American”, I raised my hand as said “ Who the Hell is this Crown that you people are all in fear of ?”
The Corporate Secretary , with classic English undershot jaw , said “ Sir, The Crown is her Majesty The Queen”
At that point it was explained that the Monarch controlled substantial amount of land and commercial property all throughout the UK. That it was held in Trust and managed for her benefit as well as the country
We also had similar dealings with the The Duke of Westminster also known as ,Earl Grosvenor, who owned the other land not owned by The Crown.
I learned then that all these sovereigns were essentially land owners from hundreds of years ago , who back in the day fielded their own army’s . As the world evolved they gave up their army’s but kept their property . Earl Spencer , Princess Dianas family ,owned substantial amounts of South Africa .
Uh-huh. Yet another MUFINY story about being involved in everything, everywhere, all the time.
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Let that be her epitaph - on her gravestone the words:
Here lies Megan Markle
An awful person, but her uncle in law was worse
People caring this much about Meghan markle make as much sense to me as people who are still pissed off about the last Jedi.
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Can't get Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad, out of my mind.
MK Ultra. Monarch programming at its finest. 🤣
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It actually wouldn't surprise me if the Monachy is finished within 10 years. Maybe sooner.
nah. People like William and Kate. The quicker they take over the better chance it has to go another 50 years or so at least.
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nah. People like William and Kate. The quicker they take over the better chance it has to go another 50 years or so at least.
The British will come to love Charles - as odd as that sounds now.
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The Irish are really showing out during this transition.
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Yall see that idiot Biden was late for the funeral? Haha what a dumbass.
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First, Queen Liz and now Coolio.
If deaths do indeed come in threes, we are in for another big one.
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First, Queen Liz and now Coolio.
If deaths do indeed come in threes, we are in for another big one.
Kissinger please.
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Kissinger please.
The fact that he has survived this long means he has already won. A painful enough death does not exist.
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I just found out that the woman who played Kai Winn on Star Trek DS9 and Nurse Ratched on "One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest" died last week. Maybe that's the third.
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The fact that he has survived this long means he has already won. A painful enough death does not exist.
I've come to the conclusion that every time someone mentions his name he gets to live another day.
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First, Queen Liz and now Coolio.
If deaths do indeed come in threes, we are in for another big one.
And there you go... RIP to Loretta Lynn.
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And there you go... RIP to Loretta Lynn.
Fist City is just an incredible song in all facets
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Fist City is just an incredible song in all facets
She was a groundbreaking songwriter. She didn't exactly stand by her man in her lyrics.