bob mckillop has just purchased a new house in menomonee falls. heres the link
http://realty100.wisconsin.remax.com/listings/ListingDetail_r4.aspx?LID=38218851#aTop
a guy i work with lives a couple doors down and was talking to the realator
If this is true that will be really disappointing. I guess the run to the elite 8 means a lot.
Oh god no! i was hoping mckillop was just a smoke screen. damn. good f**kin' find
impulse purchase, eh?
give me a break that is a total joke.
Even if you get the job you dont buy a house the same day
and if we do hire him that is aterrible hire, 20 years of doing nothing and then you get an underrcruited guy and it validates a heretofore poor career. and that translates to being successful in the BE how?
Uh, we've gone to a level even the Kentucky fans didn't go to.
Tracking real estate listings. Good grief.
http://www.411.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=Bob&name=McKillop&street=&city_zip=&state_id=WI&localtime=survey
Could it perhaps be one of these Bob's? :P
I think $9,500 is a little high for taxes. Not exactly Palm Beach County.
As much as Buzz makes me mad, this would make me more mad. It would be a Deane-like hire. I hope to God it doens't happen.
I don't mind Brownell. Also Lowery. He was high on everyone's list last year. Those two would be good.
FWIW, here's his Wikipedia profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_McKillop
This line kind of reminds me of someone we know: "The 2008 season has been a testament to McKillop's recruiting prowess, as they've been carried by the shooting of Stephen Curry, who didn't get a second look from most of the bigger programs."
just reporting what a realator told some one i work with, dont shoot the messenger
I just got a text from the realtor (not going to put his name out there, i'll just say that he was mine, im from menomonee)...bob has bought a house, i can confirm
Combine this with the report on the scout board of Buzz's wife picking up $1500 worth of merchandise at the spirit shop and you have..............a reason to have another beer.
Every coach is in San Antonio for their convention yet our new hire, Bob McKillop, is not down there putting a staff together but rather is spending this time to buy a house. Hmmmmm.
Quote from: dcmk89 on April 05, 2008, 08:52:34 PM
I just got a text from the realtor (not going to put his name out there, i'll just say that he was mine, im from menomonee)...bob has bought a house, i can confirm
Which Bob?
And hey, what about Bob, anyways?
If this is true, He would be a great hire. From New York, older, and can actually coach during a game. By the way who the hell do you expect him to recruit to Davidson???
Quote from: warrior07 on April 05, 2008, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: dcmk89 on April 05, 2008, 08:52:34 PM
I just got a text from the realtor (not going to put his name out there, i'll just say that he was mine, im from menomonee)...bob has bought a house, i can confirm
Which Bob?
dude this is a thread about mckillop, what do you think?
Sorry, forgot to use the teal. My minor attempt at sarcasm.
From Davidson web site..."McKillop derived his basketball philosophy from many sources: Lou Carnesecca, Al and Frank McGuire
Quote from: denverMU on April 05, 2008, 08:57:36 PM
If this is true, He would be a great hire. From New York, older, and can actually coach during a game. By the way who the hell do you expect him to recruit to Davidson???
Smart kids who can play, too? Davidson has the highest academic standards among all D1 NCAA schools. Of course, this will keep our tradition of graduating all of our players. At least we know McKillop runs a clean program. I bet the board loves that.
PS i assume you were referring to my comment; i meant that it sounded like DWade. DU was carried by a big-time player who wasn't highly touted. Maybe McKillop--and Crean--got lucky, or maybe they were wise recruiters. Let's hope it's the latter.
I'm sure that Tyshawn Taylor would live up to his LOI with McKillop. Also, and most importantly I found this from a interview he did earlier this year...
MAGARITY: If you had an opportunity to sit down, for a cup of coffee, with anyone from history, who would it be and why?
MCKILLOP: Jesus Christ. As a devout Catholic there could be no one else.
Fits in at Marquette perfectly!!
Short term: McKillip would be spectacular. We've got 4 seniors coming back next year with a great chance to have a really historic season.
Long term: I would hope the conversations we've been having with Williams would be about staying on as an assistant.
"In 1989, McKillop returned to Davidson, this time as head coach. He's coached Davidson longer than any basketball coach, has won more games there than any coach, and his 144 Southern Conference wins are more than any coach in league history. He's been the SoCon Coach of the Year six times, has won eight conference division titles, three tournament championships, and taken his team to three NCAA tournaments and three postseason NITs. All this winning hasn't come at any academic sacrifice, as 95 percent of his Davidson lettermen have graduated."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_McKillop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_McKillop)
so let's say this realtor thing is true, and MU is hiring mckillopsicle...
he's old.
they say to Buzz-- guys got 5 years, max.
you're what 35 Buzz?
we crank your salary-
name you associate head coach or whatever.
and you have his job when he hits social security or sooner.
is this feasible, reasonable and acceptable?
stabilty remains in the recruiting area- Buzz.
team gets an elder statesman who dug Al, has the right 'ethics' for a catholic Univ. and apparantly can coach D1... big conference? who knows.
buzz cuts his teeth and the job is his.
soon.
is that enough?
?-(
Quote from: TVDirector on April 05, 2008, 10:02:28 PM
so let's say this realtor thing is true, and MU is hiring mckillopsicle...
he's old.
they say to Buzz-- guys got 5 years, max.
you're what 35 Buzz?
we crank your salary-
name you associate head coach or whatever.
and you have his job when he hits social security or sooner.
is this feasible, reasonable and acceptable?
No. A coach should be able to pick his own assistants.
Jon
Quote from: denverMU on April 05, 2008, 08:57:36 PM
From New York
Hey, at least Len Elmore would like us then.
If I were the coach I'd rent at Renee Row...get a nice courtyard apt, tap a keg each night & talk hoops w/ the kids. Or maybe the Ranch or Hold Up house...plenty of room. Is the Wet Spot for sale?
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on April 05, 2008, 11:05:17 PM
If I were the coach I'd rent at Renee Row...get a nice courtyard apt, tap a keg each night & talk hoops w/ the kids. Or maybe the Ranch or Hold Up house...plenty of room. Is the Wet Spot for sale?
Sure enough, the Wet Spot is for sale and is priced WAY under market. Turns out that a couple weeks back, when the current owners threw a party for a few hundred of their closest friends, the house was raided after some "students" wearing hockey jerseys showed up and bought cups.
Bobby Knight bought a trailor in San Antonio! Here's the link....what a douche.
Does Curry have a brother?
Quote from: patso on April 06, 2008, 12:22:55 AM
Does Curry have a brother?
Yes...and he comes with an LOI to Liberty
I'd be shocked if he'd already bought a house, but I think Bob McKillop would be a great hire. I don't get the criticism - most of the trashing of TC is that he can't win in March, and here a guy takes DAVIDSON to the Elite 8 and we don't want him? We've done ok before pulling a coach out of a small college in Carolina. You may think I'm just a hick from Alabama, but being a long way from Milwaukee I can tell you, this would be a huge boom to us nationally. Out here we normally don't hear anything about Marquette, but everybody heard about TC going to Indiana, and if they now hear that we responded by getting an Elite 8 coach, I think we are back front and center with 18 year olds, 17 year olds deciding next year, etc. Hire him and try hard to keep Buzz - McKillop is 58 and Buzz is 35. I'm sure Buzz is honestly telling them he wants to stay at MU his whole life, but I thought that when I was 35 and have changed jobs twice since then in 8 years (I'm a boring office worker, nothing to do with Athletics). I'd be more comfortable hiring Buzz after he has put in a few years as our top assistant and we know he is committed to MU.
sorry, had to add a pet peeve. Can people please stop saying that coaches get no credit for NCAA runs if they have a superstar on a roll. The idea that Bob McKillop shouldn't get credit for an Elite 8 run with Davidson, just like TC should get credit for the run with Wade, is just wrong in my mind. First of all for the obvious reason that both coaches found and got these guys when ALMOST NOONE ELSE WANTED THEM. Second, if you go down that road you can take away almost all credit for every successful coach - of course part of a run is a great player, but lots of future NBA stars go down every year in early rounds. If McKillop can win with Curry he can win with Dominic and/or Jerel, because they are both much better than Curry.
you lost all credibility when you said they are both better than curry
I love both DJ and Jerel and hope both come back, but neither could shine Curry's shoes. The guy is one of the best pure shooters I've ever seen.
Quote from: ecompt on April 06, 2008, 01:56:28 PM
I love both DJ and Jerel and hope both come back, but neither could shine Curry's shoes. The guy is one of the best pure shooters I've ever seen.
Curry is a great shooter but does that trump all other skills?
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of defense, both on-ball and passing lane.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of elevation.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in ball handling.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of penetrating the lane.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of shaking a defender. (As evidenced by the last 12 seconds of Kansas)
An interesting discussion. To each his own.
Yeah, but he kills both of them in terms of winning Tournament games!!!
I guess the answer to the argument will come when we where each gets drafted and who makes a roster. Curry made himself a ton of money with his performance in the Tournament.
there is no way that mckillop is coming. 2 of his kids graduated from davidson and his last son is a freshman on the team now
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 06, 2008, 02:57:27 PM
I guess the answer to the argument will come when we where each gets drafted and who makes a roster. Curry made himself a ton of money with his performance in the Tournament.
Where you get drafted is perhaps the dumbest form of evaluation for a college player.
Ask Tayshaun Prince. Ask Chuck Hayes. Ask Gilbert Arenas. Hell, ask J.J. Redick :'(.
I think all three would have solid arguments behind them.
Out of the supposed four final candidates, this Bob is the last one on that list that I'd want. He's almost 60. Looking for his final contract, I'm sure, and one big pay day. It actually seems plausible he could be hired, and Buzz the assistant and the program is his after Bob retires.
But still...this would not be a good hire at all. Bring in Lowery. He was the person everyone mentioned last year when we all thought Tom may bolt to UK.
I'd love him to be hired.
As a Xavier alum/fan, I don't have a lot of insight into the Buzz situation. But I'd be very surprised if he stuck around long-term if he's not chosen, and I definitely don't see the school saddling a new head coach with an "associate head coach" he doesn't know. They may pay Buzz some extra $$$ to stick around a year or two for continuity sake, but I imagine they'd leave that decision up to the new coach and I don't think Buzz would stick around biding his time if he was passed over this go-round. I sure wouldn't if I was him.
has anyone else heard anything?
my source is pretty adamant that mckillop has indeed purchased that house.
I can only hope he is right. McKillop is by far the best choice. One question though, isn't there some privacy issue in a realtor releasing that info?
He sounds like an outstanding coach, but why would he leave Davidson after 18 seasons? He most likely has had opportunities to move up in the past. He turns 58 this summer and his son was a freshman on the team this past season. He'd probably only be at MU for 5-7 years, but I suppose that's a fairly long run in coaching. Seems very highly resepcted:
"Many times you only hear about the coaches in the power conferences being great coaches," says John Beilein, the highly successful University of Michigan coach. "Bob McKillop is equal or better than any other coach that I know, and I've coached against most of the best in the country in my 15 years in Division 1."
Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski calls McKillop "a sensational coach." Texas coach Rick Barnes says, "There are some great coaches out there who deserve recognition, and Bob is at the very top of that list."
"Bob McKillop is easily one of the nation's best coaches," (Matt) Doherty says. "What he has done at Davidson is truly remarkable. He recruits top-flight students for one of the country's top liberal arts colleges and competes in the demanding Southern Conference along with a ridiculously tough non-conference schedule."
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on April 06, 2008, 02:12:58 PM
Curry is a great shooter but does that trump all other skills?
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of defense, both on-ball and passing lane.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of elevation.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in ball handling.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of penetrating the lane.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of shaking a defender. (As evidenced by the last 12 seconds of Kansas)
An interesting discussion. To each his own.
I love McNeal and James as well, but he singlehandedly carried Davidson to the Elite Eight, and James and McNeal haven't made it past the 1st weekend of the tournament. He has very good ball handling skills, I'd say better than McNeal but worse than James. He might not penetrate 1 on 1, but coming off of the screen he is great at curling and getting into the lane. And your last point is just a bad point. He scored 26 points per game while having defenses throw 2-3 guys at him every time he touched the ball, got a screen set for him, etc. On that play Kansas's defense was saying "anybody but Stephen Curry is going to have to beat us" throwing 4 different defenders on him. Did James shake defenders in the last few seconds of the Georgetown game? Did McNeal shake defenders in the last few seconds (of regulation) in the Stanford game? Hate to bring up bad memories, but that point was not well made. While James and McNeal may be slightly better at more things, the things that Curry does better than those two are by far and away, and I'd say I'd take Curry over both of them in a second. I think the most important thing is Curry's decision making and letting the game come to him (McNeal and James each do it on and off, but Curry is very consistent with that).
Come on guys, we've seen Curry play FOUR GAMES. FOUR. I won't take anything away from the kid, because he was very impressive in those FOUR games, but is it possible that he just got hot at the right time? Think McNeal at the end of the season. He was damn near unstoppable, but we've all seen him on off nights as well. Are those of you saying you'd take Curry over DJ/McNeal in a heartbeat implying that Curry has never had/will never have an off night?
Curry had a great tournament. Jerry Smith (for those of you who wish we had him) got hot at the end of the Louisville game in '07 and beat us. Four games for one, 3 minutes for the other, and suddenly our former BE Freshman of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year are second-rate? Give me a break.
Curry is definitely an outstanding player, and hard to compare with James and McNeal really. However, I am going to give McKillop some credit here because he has to be doing something right in preparing and teaching his players. After all, nobody on the team besides Curry is really a notable player-maybe Richards. The team just plays hard and they have some perfect role players like Lovedale. Anyway, I wouldn't be upset with McKillop.
Everyone hopping on the Bob McKillop wagon is just flat out stupid. Everyone here probably criticized Crean for not getting us out of the first round since Wade, but what about Bob. He brought his team in the tourney about 5 times in his 19 year career and this was the first year they got out of the first round. I pray that McKillop doesn't get the job. He has proven nothing more than just being a nice guy so everyone likes him.
Quote from: dcmk89 on April 06, 2008, 11:39:46 PM
has anyone else heard anything?
my source is pretty adamant that mckillop has indeed purchased that house.
Your source is incorrect. Once a house is purchased, it's public record. As of this morning, that home hasn't sold yet. That doesn't mean it doesn't have an accepted offer on it or that financing is being obtained, but it has yet to sell, that is a fact.
Quote from: ErickJD08 on April 07, 2008, 03:18:51 AM
Everyone hopping on the Bob McKillop wagon is just flat out stupid. Everyone here probably criticized Crean for not getting us out of the first round since Wade, but what about Bob. He brought his team in the tourney about 5 times in his 19 year career and this was the first year they got out of the first round. I pray that McKillop doesn't get the job. He has proven nothing more than just being a nice guy so everyone likes him.
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Davidson is a small college program. The school is very elite and has about 1,700 students. McKillop has done a very good job and is widely respected by his peers. Criticizing the guy for not getting more NCAA bids and doing better in the tournament against teams with vastly superior talent is ridiculous. The guy has accomplished about as much as anybody could reasonably ask for at a tiny college that emphasizes academics, not basketball. That said, I can't imagine why he would be interested in Marquette and starting over after 18 years at Davidson, and at 58 years old.
Maybe it's one of the three "Bob McKillops" that whitepages shows living in Wisconsin, or one of the 27 others in the U.S.
Do you think Hank Raymonds will purchase the new coaches house like he did for Al?
Quote from: IAmMarquette on April 07, 2008, 01:05:03 AM
Come on guys, we've seen Curry play FOUR GAMES. FOUR. I won't take anything away from the kid, because he was very impressive in those FOUR games, but is it possible that he just got hot at the right time? Think McNeal at the end of the season. He was damn near unstoppable, but we've all seen him on off nights as well. Are those of you saying you'd take Curry over DJ/McNeal in a heartbeat implying that Curry has never had/will never have an off night?
Curry had a great tournament. Jerry Smith (for those of you who wish we had him) got hot at the end of the Louisville game in '07 and beat us. Four games for one, 3 minutes for the other, and suddenly our former BE Freshman of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year are second-rate? Give me a break.
Umm, no.
Curry averaged 21 ppg his freshman year and 25.7 this year.
Just because you didn't pay attention doesn't mean he's not a stud.
Curry came up HUGE EVERY night, against great teams and not so great ones.
his 25 point effort against Kansas was an off-night.
His impressive run in the tournament was not a surprise to those who followed college basketball.
He was a finalist (along with beasley, hansborough and augustine) for one of the college player of the year awards.
Only a homer would say he's not better than Mcneal/James.
Quote from: wadesworld on April 07, 2008, 12:39:45 AM
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on April 06, 2008, 02:12:58 PM
Curry is a great shooter but does that trump all other skills?
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of defense, both on-ball and passing lane.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of elevation.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in ball handling.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of penetrating the lane.
He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of shaking a defender. (As evidenced by the last 12 seconds of Kansas)
An interesting discussion. To each his own.
I love McNeal and James as well, but he singlehandedly carried Davidson to the Elite Eight, and James and McNeal haven't made it past the 1st weekend of the tournament. He has very good ball handling skills, I'd say better than McNeal but worse than James. He might not penetrate 1 on 1, but coming off of the screen he is great at curling and getting into the lane. And your last point is just a bad point. He scored 26 points per game while having defenses throw 2-3 guys at him every time he touched the ball, got a screen set for him, etc. On that play Kansas's defense was saying "anybody but Stephen Curry is going to have to beat us" throwing 4 different defenders on him. Did James shake defenders in the last few seconds of the Georgetown game? Did McNeal shake defenders in the last few seconds (of regulation) in the Stanford game? Hate to bring up bad memories, but that point was not well made. While James and McNeal may be slightly better at more things, the things that Curry does better than those two are by far and away, and I'd say I'd take Curry over both of them in a second. I think the most important thing is Curry's decision making and letting the game come to him (McNeal and James each do it on and off, but Curry is very consistent with that).
Check the bolded. You may not agree with my last point but if you have a screen set for you 90% of the time how does that count as "shaking" a defender?
We had guys coming off screens every fucking minute under Crean and if they could shoot (Diener, Novak, Chapman) they looked just as good as any other player that comes off a screen.
James and McNeal are downgraded because they are not pure shooters. No problem there. But that shouldn't penalize them more then Curry's negatives penalize him.
Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on April 07, 2008, 11:30:10 AM
Check the bolded. You may not agree with my last point but if you have a screen set for you 90% of the time how does that count as "shaking" a defender?
We had guys coming off screens every fracking minute under Crean and if they could shoot (Diener, Novak, Chapman) they looked just as good as any other player that comes off a screen.
James and McNeal are downgraded because they are not pure shooters. No problem there. But that shouldn't penalize them more then Curry's negatives penalize him.
There was a difference between Novak, Chapman, and Diener (although Diener was closer to Curry) and when they came off of there screens. The first two in particular would catch and shoot without a pump fake or a dribble. Curry often had guys helping the defender when he came off of the screen and he'd "shake" the defender with a head fake or 1 dribble 1 way or the other. It doesn't matter how the defender is "shaken," it doesn't have to be off of the dribble by himself, he is better than anyone I've seen at reading the screen and defense and adjusting accordingly, getting wide open. Nobody on Marquette knows how to do that...we run screens up top and end up passing the ball to that man HIGHER than where the pass was thrown from.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ReMOjm-eBzA
The Georgetown game on 2 straight possessions he shook the defender(s) like nobody I've seen...splits the defenders up top then gets the and-1 layup and then behind the back on top of the key, hits the 3 over the defender who's showing (you'll argue he used a screen on the 2nd play and it wasn't "shaking" his defender...after the behind the back move his defender had already fallen back about 4 feet from him, he was shaken already).
Stats:
Stephen Curry: 33 mpg, 26 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3 apg, 2 spg, 48% fg, 89% ft, 44% 3pt fg
Jerel McNeal: 30 mpg, 15 ppg, 5 rpg, 3.5 apg, 2.2 spg, 45.6% fg, 70% ft, 30% 3pt fg
Dominic James: 30 mpg, 13 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.4 apg, 1.8 spg, 40% fg, 66% ft, 31% 3pt fg
Again, I love Dominic and Jerel, but if you ask me there is NO question whatsoever who I'd rather have. If there is one guard I would love to have on Marquette it would be Stephen Curry. One of the top 5 players I'd take in the nation, and the other four would be big men only because we NEED one. Now if it was BOTH James AND McNeal or Curry who would you rather have then obviously it'd be McNeal AND James.
for those of you comparing DJ, Jerel, and Curry, points per game, etc, don't really have much weight behind them. We have 4 strong scoring options and Davidson has one. Put Jerel, Dom, heck, even Wesley or Lazar on a team like Davidson and they will all put up 20+ a game, I'd almost guarantee it.
Quote from: muwarrior87 on April 07, 2008, 03:44:51 PM
for those of you comparing DJ, Jerel, and Curry, points per game, etc, don't really have much weight behind them. We have 4 strong scoring options and Davidson has one. Put Jerel, Dom, heck, even Wesley or Lazar on a team like Davidson and they will all put up 20+ a game, I'd almost guarantee it.
Alright, if that's the case then why can't all 4 of those guys together get to the Sweet Sixteen, much less 2 points away from the Final Four?
Matchups speak volumes. Overrated Madison second round or Stanford...hmm.
Are you guys nuts? Curry is much better than anybody on our team, even our guys would tell you that. In fact, the only MU player that compares to him EVER is Wade. He's a first round draft pick.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 07, 2008, 03:52:32 PM
Are you guys nuts? Curry is much better than anybody on our team, even our guys would tell you that. In fact, the only MU player that compares to him EVER is Wade. He's a first round draft pick.
Definitely agree. And matchups do speak volumes...they also played Georgetown and Kansas. Georgetown beat us in our place (yes we got screwed, Davidson didn't let them stay that close) and Kansas would have KILLED us...they lost by 2 to them. They also ran Wisconsin out of the building. We beat Wisconsin there, so I'd call that one a push. Even if we beat Stanford, we lose to Texas, who we match up well with, and they still go further than us.
Again, not trying to tear Marquette apart, love our guys, but if stats don't show he's better than the results do, and if the results don't then the stats do.
This house has now been relisted
Quote from: MUEAGLE96 on April 07, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
This house has now been relisted
heres the link in case anyone is interested
http://realty100.wisconsin.remax.com/listings/ListingDetail_r4.aspx?LID=38218851#aTop
I hope McKillop saved the reciept ;D
No doubt he may get to the association, but not a lot of teams willing to use a 1st round draft pick on a 6'3", 155 lbs shooting guard.
Quote from: MUEAGLE96 on April 07, 2008, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: MUEAGLE96 on April 07, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
This house has now been relisted
heres the link in case anyone is interested
http://realty100.wisconsin.remax.com/listings/ListingDetail_r4.aspx?LID=38218851#aTop
I heard McKillopp told the realtor, "That's the last time I'm buying a house in another city before I actually get the job there."
I wonder if McKillop still has this house.