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If I were the coach I'd rent at Renee Row...get a nice courtyard apt, tap a keg each night & talk hoops w/ the kids.  Or maybe the Ranch or Hold Up house...plenty of room.  Is the Wet Spot for sale?
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garekis

Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on April 05, 2008, 11:05:17 PM
If I were the coach I'd rent at Renee Row...get a nice courtyard apt, tap a keg each night & talk hoops w/ the kids.  Or maybe the Ranch or Hold Up house...plenty of room.  Is the Wet Spot for sale?

Sure enough, the Wet Spot is for sale and is priced WAY under market.  Turns out that a couple weeks back, when the current owners threw a party for a few hundred of their closest friends, the house was raided after some "students" wearing hockey jerseys showed up and bought cups.

muhoops1

Bobby Knight bought a trailor in San Antonio!  Here's the link....what a douche.

patso


foreverwarriors

Quote from: patso on April 06, 2008, 12:22:55 AM
Does Curry have a brother?

Yes...and he comes with an LOI to Liberty

bamamarquettefan

I'd be shocked if he'd already bought a house, but I think Bob McKillop would be a great hire.  I don't get the criticism - most of the trashing of TC is that he can't win in March, and here a guy takes DAVIDSON to the Elite 8 and we don't want him?  We've done ok before pulling a coach out of a small college in Carolina.  You may think I'm just a hick from Alabama, but being a long way from Milwaukee I can tell you, this would be a huge boom to us nationally.  Out here we normally don't hear anything about Marquette, but everybody heard about TC going to Indiana, and if they now hear that we responded by getting an Elite 8 coach, I think we are back front and center with 18 year olds, 17 year olds deciding next year, etc.  Hire him and try hard to keep Buzz - McKillop is 58 and Buzz is 35.  I'm sure Buzz is honestly telling them he wants to stay at MU his whole life, but I thought that when I was 35 and have changed jobs twice since then in 8 years (I'm a boring office worker, nothing to do with Athletics).  I'd be more comfortable hiring Buzz after he has put in a few years as our top assistant and we know he is committed to MU.
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bamamarquettefan

sorry, had to add a pet peeve.  Can people please stop saying that coaches get no credit for NCAA runs if they have a superstar on a roll.  The idea that Bob McKillop shouldn't get credit for an Elite 8 run with Davidson, just like TC should get credit for the run with Wade, is just wrong in my mind.  First of all for the obvious reason that both coaches found and got these guys when ALMOST NOONE ELSE WANTED THEM.  Second, if you go down that road you can take away almost all credit for every successful coach - of course part of a run is a great player, but lots of future NBA stars go down every year in early rounds.  If McKillop can win with Curry he can win with Dominic and/or Jerel, because they are both much better than Curry.
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dcmk89

you lost all credibility when you said they are both better than curry

ecompt

I love both DJ and Jerel and hope both come back, but neither could shine Curry's shoes. The guy is one of the best pure shooters I've ever seen.

Coobeys Oil Depot

Quote from: ecompt on April 06, 2008, 01:56:28 PM
I love both DJ and Jerel and hope both come back, but neither could shine Curry's shoes. The guy is one of the best pure shooters I've ever seen.

Curry is a great shooter but does that trump all other skills?

He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of defense, both on-ball and passing lane.

He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of elevation.

He can't touch either James or McNeal in ball handling.

He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of penetrating the lane.

He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of shaking a defender. (As evidenced by the last 12 seconds of Kansas)

An interesting discussion. To each his own.

denverMU

Yeah, but he kills both of them in terms of winning Tournament games!!!

4everwarriors

I guess the answer to the argument will come when we where each gets drafted and who makes a roster. Curry made himself a ton of money with his performance in the Tournament.
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jgfyanks08

there is no way that mckillop is coming. 2 of his kids graduated from davidson and his last son is a freshman on the team now

Coobeys Oil Depot

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 06, 2008, 02:57:27 PM
I guess the answer to the argument will come when we where each gets drafted and who makes a roster. Curry made himself a ton of money with his performance in the Tournament.

Where you get drafted is perhaps the dumbest form of evaluation for a college player.

Ask Tayshaun Prince. Ask Chuck Hayes. Ask Gilbert Arenas. Hell, ask J.J. Redick  :'(.

I think all three would have solid arguments behind them.

Niv Berkowitz

Out of the supposed four final candidates, this Bob is the last one on that list that I'd want. He's almost 60. Looking for his final contract, I'm sure, and one big pay day. It actually seems plausible he could be hired, and Buzz the assistant and the program is his after Bob retires.

But still...this would not be a good hire at all. Bring in Lowery. He was the person everyone mentioned last year when we all thought Tom may bolt to UK.

I'd love him to be hired.


LA Muskie

As a Xavier alum/fan, I don't have a lot of insight into the Buzz situation.  But I'd be very surprised if he stuck around long-term if he's not chosen, and I definitely don't see the school saddling a new head coach with an "associate head coach" he doesn't know.  They may pay Buzz some extra $$$ to stick around a year or two for continuity sake, but I imagine they'd leave that decision up to the new coach and I don't think Buzz would stick around biding his time if he was passed over this go-round.  I sure wouldn't if I was him.

dcmk89

has anyone else heard anything?

my source is pretty adamant that mckillop has indeed purchased that house.

denverMU

I can only hope he is right.  McKillop is by far the best choice.  One question though, isn't there some privacy issue in a realtor releasing that info?

WarriorHal

He sounds like an outstanding coach, but why would he leave Davidson after 18 seasons? He most likely has had opportunities to move up in the past. He turns 58 this summer and his son was a freshman on the team this past season. He'd probably only be at MU for 5-7 years, but I suppose that's a fairly long run in coaching. Seems very highly resepcted:

"Many times you only hear about the coaches in the power conferences being great coaches," says John Beilein, the highly successful University of Michigan coach. "Bob McKillop is equal or better than any other coach that I know, and I've coached against most of the best in the country in my 15 years in Division 1."

Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski calls McKillop "a sensational coach." Texas coach Rick Barnes says, "There are some great coaches out there who deserve recognition, and Bob is at the very top of that list."


"Bob McKillop is easily one of the nation's best coaches," (Matt) Doherty says. "What he has done at Davidson is truly remarkable. He recruits top-flight students for one of the country's top liberal arts colleges and competes in the demanding Southern Conference along with a ridiculously tough non-conference schedule."



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Quote from: Coobeys Oil Depot on April 06, 2008, 02:12:58 PM
Curry is a great shooter but does that trump all other skills?

He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of defense, both on-ball and passing lane.

He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of elevation.

He can't touch either James or McNeal in ball handling.

He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of penetrating the lane.

He can't touch either James or McNeal in terms of shaking a defender. (As evidenced by the last 12 seconds of Kansas)

An interesting discussion. To each his own.
I love McNeal and James as well, but he singlehandedly carried Davidson to the Elite Eight, and James and McNeal haven't made it past the 1st weekend of the tournament.  He has very good ball handling skills, I'd say better than McNeal but worse than James.  He might not penetrate 1 on 1, but coming off of the screen he is great at curling and getting into the lane.  And your last point is just a bad point.  He scored 26 points per game while having defenses throw 2-3 guys at him every time he touched the ball, got a screen set for him, etc.  On that play Kansas's defense was saying "anybody but Stephen Curry is going to have to beat us" throwing 4 different defenders on him.  Did James shake defenders in the last few seconds of the Georgetown game?  Did McNeal shake defenders in the last few seconds (of regulation) in the Stanford game?  Hate to bring up bad memories, but that point was not well made.  While James and McNeal may be slightly better at more things, the things that Curry does better than those two are by far and away, and I'd say I'd take Curry over both of them in a second.  I think the most important thing is Curry's decision making and letting the game come to him (McNeal and James each do it on and off, but Curry is very consistent with that).

IAmMarquette

Come on guys, we've seen Curry play FOUR GAMES. FOUR. I won't take anything away from the kid, because he was very impressive in those FOUR games, but is it possible that he just got hot at the right time? Think McNeal at the end of the season. He was damn near unstoppable, but we've all seen him on off nights as well. Are those of you saying you'd take Curry over DJ/McNeal in a heartbeat implying that Curry has never had/will never have an off night?

Curry had a great tournament. Jerry Smith (for those of you who wish we had him) got hot at the end of the Louisville game in '07 and beat us. Four games for one, 3 minutes for the other, and suddenly our former BE Freshman of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year are second-rate? Give me a break.

Markusquette

Curry is definitely an outstanding player, and hard to compare with James and McNeal really.  However, I am going to give McKillop some credit here because he has to be doing something right in preparing and teaching his players.  After all, nobody on the team besides Curry is really a notable player-maybe Richards.  The team just plays hard and they have some perfect role players like Lovedale.  Anyway, I wouldn't be upset with McKillop.

ErickJD08

Everyone hopping on the Bob McKillop wagon is just flat out stupid.  Everyone here probably criticized Crean for not getting us out of the first round since Wade, but what about Bob.  He brought his team in the tourney about 5 times in his 19 year career and this was the first year they got out of the first round.  I pray that McKillop doesn't get the job.  He has proven nothing more than just being a nice guy so everyone likes him.
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MUfan2

Quote from: dcmk89 on April 06, 2008, 11:39:46 PM
has anyone else heard anything?

my source is pretty adamant that mckillop has indeed purchased that house.

Your source is incorrect.  Once a house is purchased, it's public record.  As of this morning, that home hasn't sold yet.  That doesn't mean it doesn't have an accepted offer on it or that financing is being obtained, but it has yet to sell, that is a fact.
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WarriorHal

Quote from: ErickJD08 on April 07, 2008, 03:18:51 AM
Everyone hopping on the Bob McKillop wagon is just flat out stupid.  Everyone here probably criticized Crean for not getting us out of the first round since Wade, but what about Bob.  He brought his team in the tourney about 5 times in his 19 year career and this was the first year they got out of the first round.  I pray that McKillop doesn't get the job.  He has proven nothing more than just being a nice guy so everyone likes him.
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Davidson is a small college program. The school is very elite and has about 1,700 students. McKillop has done a very good job and is widely respected by his peers. Criticizing the guy for not getting more NCAA bids and doing better in the tournament against teams with vastly superior talent is ridiculous. The guy has accomplished about as much as anybody could reasonably ask for at a tiny college that emphasizes academics, not basketball. That said, I can't imagine why he would be interested in Marquette and starting over after 18 years at Davidson, and at 58 years old.

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