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Title: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: mwbauer7 on April 01, 2008, 05:45:14 PM
Coach Crean,

Thanks for putting MU back on the basketball map. Thanks for the final 4.  Thanks for helping us get to the Big East.

Most importantly- Thank you for representing Marquette University the way you did.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Sir Lawrence on April 01, 2008, 05:48:36 PM
Too soon.  Right now Tom Crean is dead to me.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MUEng92 on April 01, 2008, 05:53:29 PM
You are a bigger man than me.

My only thought right now is, wow, there actually is something that can make me cheer for the Wisconsin Badgers two times a year.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MUsoxfan on April 01, 2008, 05:53:51 PM
I agree with Sir Lawrence.   Thank you very little, Crean
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 01, 2008, 05:54:56 PM
Pathetic! He's been trying to leave for 5 years and you're thanking him? I'm sure our juniors do not feel the same way about our classy ex coach right now.

I hope the check for the soccer stadium cleared!
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: mosarsour on April 01, 2008, 05:56:15 PM
Quote from: Sir Lawrence on April 01, 2008, 05:48:36 PM
Too soon.  Right now Tom Crean is dead to me.

Agreed. With 9 years left on his MU contract...and he goes to the Big Ten which makes it a million times worse!
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: 🏀 on April 01, 2008, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 01, 2008, 05:54:56 PM
Pathetic! He's been trying to leave for 5 years and you're thanking him? I'm sure our juniors do not feel the same way about our classy ex coach right now.

I hope the check for the soccer stadium cleared!

I have never wished ill upon someone and their family. However, PRN, I wish ill-fated times upon you and your family.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on April 01, 2008, 06:01:22 PM
No crap...thanks very little to Crean if this is anything but a very widely-involved and elaborate April Fool's Joke...even if it was, Crean crossed the line and pissed people off.

Naw, bull feces.  This homosexual-buttocks move makes the Lopez twins look like class acts...this move by Crean...would make the Lopez twins make Wes Matthews look like Nutter.

Son of a bitch, Crean.

If he is gone, I hope we pull a season-long Stanford the way they beat us without their coach.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: mosarsour on April 01, 2008, 06:02:38 PM
Thanks for Dwyane Wade.....That's all.
Title: K my A Tom Crean
Post by: mu-rara on April 01, 2008, 06:03:42 PM
We all stand up for you, cover your back regarding your high pay compared to the results we've gotten, and this is how you repay us and your team.

FU
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Doctor V on April 01, 2008, 06:04:36 PM
completely agree Mike

THANK YOU COACH CREAN

youve done so much for this program and have personally made my MU experience better with the product you created

Best of Luck
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MUSF on April 01, 2008, 06:12:14 PM
Everyone needs to calm down.

If no one else will say it, I will.

Crean took a better job. I don't think he should be killed for that. He didn't make a lateral move, like he could have with Illinois. He did leave at the first opportunity. He stayed until something better came along. Seth Davis today called Indiana a top 7 job, even with the issues. Crean never sold our program short. He always carried himself with class and he built a solid foundation for our next coach.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: RawdogDX on April 01, 2008, 06:22:57 PM
Any of you who aren't grateful should re-evaluate what this man has done for our program.  What attendance was, how much national press we've gotten, what it was like to be a contender in the big east under him, how much we've loved the players he's brought in.  It's silly to be mad at someone for making a choice that he felt was better for him.  WHat do you people do for a living?  Is there any jobs out there you would leave for?  Would you expect your coworkers to talk about you like you were a traitor? 

The reason we are mad or hurt by this is because he's done so much for us.  It's silly to let this taint his years of faithful and productive service to the institution we love so much.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MUsoxfan on April 01, 2008, 06:30:06 PM
No.   The reason we're mad is because he lied to us.    He told the university and the fans he'd be here through 2017 when he signed his name on that (worthless) piece of paper. 
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on April 01, 2008, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: mosarsour on April 01, 2008, 06:02:38 PM
Thanks for Dwyane Wade.....That's all.

Seriously, ask yourself, all of you Tom Crean d/r's....without DWade, would our program be where it's at now? 

Okay, no doubt, props to Crean for getting Wade in the first place, recruiting is probably one of his better strengths.

HOWEVER...and I don't know that much history, but was Wade a priority for Crean?
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 01, 2008, 06:35:09 PM
Not sure why it has to be one or the other. I am very grateful for all he has done, however, MU also did plenty for him, made an unbelieveable financial commitment in $ and years, and he has chosen to repay that by leaving with 9 years left on his contract. FOr that I think it is reasonable to be just a bit pissed off at him. That's the way it works unfortunatley, but it still stinks. He feels its better for him, and that's cool, but I consider it a weak move on his part. Again, if he had just a few years left on that massive contract, I'd feel a bit different, but as I said earlier, the ink on teh last extension is barely dry.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: RawdogDX on April 01, 2008, 06:39:49 PM
Quote from: MUsoxfan on April 01, 2008, 06:30:06 PM
No.   The reason we're mad is because he lied to us.    He told the university and the fans he'd be here through 2017 when he signed his name on that (worthless) piece of paper. 

Figures that some meat head sox fan would have a hard time understanding that this is the way the world works, why don't you go shank someone.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Thomas' Danish Delight on April 01, 2008, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 01, 2008, 06:35:09 PM
Not sure why it has to be one or the other. I am very grateful for all he has done, however, MU also did plenty for him, made an unbelieveable financial commitment in $ and years, and he has chosen to repay that by leaving with 9 years left on his contract. FOr that I think it is reasonable to be just a bit pissed off at him. That's the way it works unfortunatley, but it still stinks. He feels its better for him, and that's cool, but I consider it a weak move on his part. Again, if he had just a few years left on that massive contract, I'd feel a bit different, but as I said earlier, the ink on teh last extension is barely dry.

Preach.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: ChuckyChip on April 01, 2008, 06:44:11 PM
Before everyone gets all high-and-mighty about honoring contracts, don't forget that there is a good possibilty that MU will hire a coach from another school who is under contract to that school.  That's the way the game is played, like it or not.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Pakuni on April 01, 2008, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: RawdogDX on April 01, 2008, 06:39:49 PM
Quote from: MUsoxfan on April 01, 2008, 06:30:06 PM
No.   The reason we're mad is because he lied to us.    He told the university and the fans he'd be here through 2017 when he signed his name on that (worthless) piece of paper. 

Figures that some meat head sox fan would have a hard time understanding that this is the way the world works, why don't you go shank someone.

Hey, hey, hey .... let's leave Chicago's only World Series champion of the last century out of this, OK?

But yeah, that post was stupid.
Unless someone finds me a quote from TC saying "I'll never ever leave Marquette" than he's not a liar. There are probably a half dozen jobs out there for which he would leave MU. Unfortunately, Indiana turns out to be one of them. Unlike Kevin O'Neill, I wish Crean no ill will.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: jos7287 on April 01, 2008, 06:46:22 PM
Yes, thank you Tom Crean for bringing MU to the national spot light, which you have done.

But you are a sleezy man for leaving with 9 years left on your contract and deserting you team, and more importantly your junior class which will most likely all return next year.  That is not something that a friend and a mentor does.  Where I come from your word and your signiture mean something.

Have fun in the big Tom
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MUSF on April 01, 2008, 06:47:05 PM
Quote from: MUsoxfan on April 01, 2008, 06:30:06 PM
No.   The reason we're mad is because he lied to us.    He told the university and the fans he'd be here through 2017 when he signed his name on that (worthless) piece of paper. 

Are you really serious? Why do contracts have buyouts? Don't coaches get fired while under contract?

I'm sure Crean's contract deals with this situation in some way. We aren't the first school to lose a coach.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: RawdogDX on April 01, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
Quote from: jos7287 on April 01, 2008, 06:46:22 PM
Yes, thank you Tom Crean for bringing MU to the national spot light, which you have done.

But you are a sleezy man for leaving with 9 years left on your contract and deserting you team, and more importantly your junior class which will most likely all return next year.  That is not something that a friend and a mentor does.  \

And so you wouldn't have been mad if he left in 2 year?  oh wait there would be other kids who are JR's and so's and he'd have 7 years.  ANd in 4 years he'd have 5 years left and kids who are jr's. 

You would never feel happy, never not upset, he made a choice based on what he thought was best for him and his family.  appriciate what he did, be sad he had to go, but he has to do what he thought was best for him.  The same way every person on this board makes choices.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MUfan12 on April 01, 2008, 06:53:28 PM
I've defended him as much as anyone, but this is bull. Turns out PRN and co were right, it's all about him.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: warriormom on April 01, 2008, 06:58:39 PM
Totally agree that you can be very grateful for what Crean has done AND be very angry that he is leaving.  I do NOT wish him well.  I hope he fails miserably and realizes how good he had it here.
I don't think the student section at IU will be cheering for him.  Don't think the IU faithful will be happy with one and done in the NCAAs. 
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: RawdogDX on April 01, 2008, 07:12:40 PM
Quote from: warriormom on April 01, 2008, 06:58:39 PM
Totally agree that you can be very grateful for what Crean has done AND be very angry that he is leaving.  I do NOT wish him well.  I hope he fails miserably and realizes how good he had it here.
I don't think the student section at IU will be cheering for him.  Don't think the IU faithful will be happy with one and done in the NCAAs. 

He won't be one and done there becuase he's at a bigger program where he'll get better recruits.  That is the whole point.  It's why it's a better job that an ambitious person would take, an ambition that he needed to be a succesful coach here.  As much as we like to think that just anyone can bring 5 star athletes here it's not the case.  He'll be able to do that in indiana.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: drewm88 on April 01, 2008, 07:45:36 PM
Thank you Coach.
I wish you would have stayed. I wish you had continued to build our program and become a staple of Marquette basketball, our Coach K (although there would still be Al up there of course).
I wish you well in Bloomington. It will probably be rough early on, but I believe you will succeed and hopefully make at least 1 B11 team play more exciting ball. It's unfortunate with the potential our team has for next year that you won't be around. But I understand that IU is a better program than us historically and these things happen.

But I wish more than anything you will get up to that podium at IU tomorrow and say "April Fool's mother*******!"
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: jos7287 on April 01, 2008, 08:49:10 PM
Quote from: RawdogDX on April 01, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
Quote from: jos7287 on April 01, 2008, 06:46:22 PM
Yes, thank you Tom Crean for bringing MU to the national spot light, which you have done.

But you are a sleezy man for leaving with 9 years left on your contract and deserting you team, and more importantly your junior class which will most likely all return next year.  That is not something that a friend and a mentor does.  \

And so you wouldn't have been mad if he left in 2 year?  oh wait there would be other kids who are JR's and so's and he'd have 7 years.  ANd in 4 years he'd have 5 years left and kids who are jr's. 

You would never feel happy, never not upset, he made a choice based on what he thought was best for him and his family.  appriciate what he did, be sad he had to go, but he has to do what he thought was best for him.  The same way every person on this board makes choices.


Slander!  Our next years senior class is the best it has probably ever been and for Tom to leave them now is low.  And yes, if he left in two years I would not be as upset as I am now.  Ass.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MUCHI814 on April 01, 2008, 09:12:02 PM
Thank you Tom Crean for 1 tournament win during my time at Marquette
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Daniel on April 01, 2008, 09:30:11 PM
Crean did good for us - or we would not care that he's leaving.  We did not mind when Duliet was let go.  We mind Crean leaving because he's good, and put MU back on the b-ball map.  Personally, I really thought he would make it his career - with the long term contract, lots of money, a program that is building - I really thought he would stick.

But that's just pipe-dreaming by me.  Money is thinker than loyalty, and really, his job will in many ways be easier.  It's not easy recruiting kids to Milwaukee when they could go to UNC or Texas, FSU etc.  He will have an easier time recruiting.

But I'm still upset he left us, becuase I really beleived he'd stay.  So, I promise myself never to do that again.  Any coach anywhere (excpet Coach K) is leaving sometime for somewhere.

That's it.  We just need to be as relentless in our pursuit of someone BETTER than Crean as we were on defense.  We can't settle for less.  It's time for Marquette to UPGRADE.


Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MUSF on April 01, 2008, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: MUCHI814 on April 01, 2008, 09:12:02 PM
Thank you Tom Crean for 1 tournament win during my time at Marquette

You should be thankful. When I was at MU we only made the tournament once (Crean's first trip).

Our last coach underachieved with a solid team my freshman year (Hutch's senior year) and sh*t the bed after that. So maybe you should get some perspective and genuinely be thankful.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 19, 2013, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: mosarsour on April 01, 2008, 06:02:38 PM
Thanks for Dwyane Wade.....That's all.
...and Buzz
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: JD on March 19, 2013, 06:14:40 PM
Christ.  A thread from 5 years ago being pulled up. 

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: keefe on March 19, 2013, 06:30:21 PM
Quote from: PTM on April 01, 2008, 05:57:38 PM
I have never wished ill upon someone and their family. However, PRN, I wish ill-fated times upon you and your family.

And I'm sure Puerto Rican Nightmare gives a sh!t what you think.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Avenue Commons on March 19, 2013, 06:30:29 PM
Whiskey...Tango...Foxtrot........
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2013, 10:31:15 PM
Really? Whether you love or hate the guy, this is the post we want to start/continue on the eve of the NCAAs? Really?

Ugh.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: keefe on March 20, 2013, 05:14:29 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2013, 10:31:15 PM
Really? Whether you love or hate the guy, this is the post we want to start/continue on the eve of the NCAAs? Really?

Ugh.

Think of it as the palate cleanser between Crean's unending stream of I love me sessions being run these days on all the networks. This is the refreshing cup of sorbet between savory courses, designed to eliminate the heavy, turgid taste of the previous dish so that the next may be enjoyed with a fresh perspective. Unfortunately, the next is more of the same and therefore the diner should look for a digestif - calvados or grappas to prevent heartburn, indigestion or even nausea as yet another course of Braised Tanned Tommy is placed before an already over-served diner.
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: connie on March 20, 2013, 06:24:20 AM
At least its "wafer thin."
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MU B2002 on March 20, 2013, 06:52:22 AM
Sixstring, why you Hoopin?
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 20, 2013, 08:19:51 AM
Quote from: MU B2002 on March 20, 2013, 06:52:22 AM
Sixstring, why you Hoopin?
Hoopin?
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: MU B2002 on March 20, 2013, 08:35:50 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 17, 2012, 08:20:14 PM
Seriously? What is your obsession with reviving dead threads? This was 11 days old. The discussion to be had was had a week and a half ago.

Okay...new term. Any time someone bumps a thread that is 10+ days old and clearly dead, it will heretofore be known as "Hooping". So instead of asking why someone bumped that old thing, we can ask "Hey man, why you Hooping?"

In response to a former MUSCOOP ID.



Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 20, 2013, 08:19:51 AM
Hoopin?



Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on March 20, 2013, 08:53:29 AM
Quote from: MU B2002 on March 20, 2013, 08:35:50 AM
In response to a former MUSCOOP ID.






cool bro
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: teddycoke on March 20, 2013, 08:55:14 AM
Thank You KO for starting the machine!!!
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: Coleman on March 20, 2013, 09:26:05 AM
Quote from: sixstrings03 on March 20, 2013, 08:53:29 AM
cool bro

I think it should really be "Hoopaloopin"
Title: Re: Thank You Tom Crean
Post by: tower912 on March 20, 2013, 09:41:29 AM
...hoopaloopin'  doop-ity-do...here's another riddle for you......

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