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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TrojanWarrior on April 01, 2024, 06:36:30 PM
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As a matter of perspective, five of our 10 losses were to the Final Four Teams. 1 to Sweet 16 Team (away), 1 to another tournament team (away). 1 to a team on course to win the NIT (away). I let my disappointment get the better of me.
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As a matter of perspective, five of our 10 losses were to the Final Four Teams. 1 to Sweet 16 Team (away), 1 to another tournament team (away). 1 to a team on course to win the NIT (away). I let my disappointment get the better of me.
Thats the truth. Was a heckuva season. Bottom line.
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Yes. Much to celebrate and be proud of.
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Sweet sixteen is nothing to scoff at for this fan. Confident we’ll have more shots at the 3rd weekend in the near future.
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Very proud of this team in ALL ways….they fought the good fight every game for themselves, for the team, for Marquette, for us. They were not only connected together, they were connected with us. Go Marquette!
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As a matter of perspective, five of our 10 losses were to the Final Four Teams. 1 to Sweet 16 Team (away), 1 to another tournament team (away). 1 to a team on course to win the NIT (away). I let my disappointment get the better of me.
It’s never made any sense that a win or two more in a one and done tournament makes the difference between feeling good about or disappointed in your college basketball team. There is way too much emphasis on a post season, single elimination format which relies on a group of people that determines whom you play and where you play them. Such is life in college hoops. I choose to take a comprehensive view of the season, and from my vantage point this year was another Marquette success story.
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Can we feel proud about what was unquestionably a success story AND also be massively disappointed about “unfinished business”?
I hope so because that’s how I feel … and I’m pretty sure Shaka and his players have a similar combination of feelings.
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Yet what I’m hearing is that many of the MU fans on this board would have been happier being fans of FAU or NC State the last two years.
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Yet what I’m hearing is that many of the MU fans on this board would have been happier being fans of FAU or NC State the last two years.
I am fine with how '22-'23 turned out. A regular season and BET championship were fantastic.
But I would much rather have had NC State's results this year than Marquette's. Not even a question.
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It’s never made any sense that a win or two more in a one and done tournament makes the difference between feeling good about or disappointed in your college basketball team. There is way too much emphasis on a post season, single elimination format which relies on a group of people that determines whom you play and where you play them. Such is life in college hoops. I choose to take a comprehensive view of the season, and from my vantage point this year was another Marquette success story.
Yet what I’m hearing is that many of the MU fans on this board would have been happier being fans of FAU or NC State the last two years.
In our 31 game regular season-count 'em...31 games-I enjoyed our wins and knew that when we lost, there would be another opportunity to win until the last game of the season. In the 3 game BET, we were 2-1, as we were in the NCAA. The regular season lasted about four months. The two tourneys were over very quickly. No "next game!" to look forward to. So.... 31 games vs. 3 games and 3 games.
A natty is always the ultimate prize, but look at the littered killing field of the NCAA tourney and tell me those many teams are now of nominal value. I would not trade NC State their mediocre regular season for ours. Part of the bargain would have required watching them play their regular season. ::)
If the FF or better is the benchmark for a successful season, that means that Tennessee joins us as a failed team this year. If I remember correctly (not always a safe assumption ;)) the announcers after the UT/Purdue game pointed out that UT has never reached the FF in their 25 tourney appearances.
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Sigh. Only idiots are calling our season "failed" for us not having reached the Final Four.
We had a team capable of winning the national title. We're deeply disappointed the season ended when it did. Marquette won the double Big East title last season and that was cool. We - including Shaka and every single player on the team - had higher goals this year. Our heroes fell short, and that sucks, for all the fans and especially for the players and coaches who worked so hard.
And despite how it ended, all the fans I personally know - as well as most Scoopers, based on the comments here over the last several days - are extremely grateful for the outstanding basketball we got to enjoy these last two years.
Can't all that be true?
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Sigh. Only idiots are calling our season "failed" for us not having reached the Final Four.
We had a team capable of winning the national title. We're deeply disappointed the season ended when it did. Marquette won the double Big East title last season and that was cool. We - including Shaka and every single player on the team - had higher goals this year. Our heroes fell short, and that sucks, for all the fans and especially for the players and coaches who worked so hard.
And despite how it ended, all the fans I personally know - as well as most Scoopers, based on the comments here over the last several days - are extremely grateful for the outstanding basketball we got to enjoy these last two years.
Can't all that be true?
Umm...I really did not think that I needed to put the word "failed" in teal. No need to sigh. Look at the bolded in the two posts I showed. "Comprehensive view", "another Marquette success story", and last-but not least, wiscblues's comment. I focused on what I perceive as "only success in the NCAA matters", even though that is not stated explicitly.
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Umm...I really did not think that I needed to put the word "failed" in teal. No need to sigh. Look at the bolded in the two posts I showed. "Comprehensive view", "another Marquette success story", and last-but not least, wiscblues's comment. I focused on what I perceive as "only success in the NCAA matters", even though that is not stated explicitly.
I realized that Snoop. I was just trying to amplify your thoughts. Certainly meant no slight on you.
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Of course, the last two years were success, and both ended in disappointment. It has been the best two year stretch in a long time and entertaining as hell. All of us are disappointed but only an idiot would consider it a failure. When I heard the Purdue had been to the FF in roughly 40 years and Tenn has never been to a FF, it once again proves how hard it is to make the FF.
I hope they keep knocking on the door and giving themselves chances to go deep. The worst part of being a fan is almost every year of your fandom ends in disappointment. To be honest, if they had won on Friday and lost on Sunday by shooting 4-31 from three, I would not feel any better or think the season was a vastly bigger success.
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I realized that Snoop. I was just trying to amplify your thoughts. Certainly meant no slight on you.
We're good.
I just think we need to accept our team, warts and all, rather than fantasizing about trading places with any other team. That includes a very good season overall, and not focusing only on the minefield that is the NCAA tourney every damn year. A Sweet Sixteen is an accomplishment worthy of note. It's just not the ceiling of what the team was capable of.
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Of course, the last two years were success, and both ended in disappointment. It has been the best two year stretch in a long time and entertaining as hell. All of us are disappointed but only an idiot would consider it a failure. When I heard the Purdue had been to the FF in roughly 40 years and Tenn has never been to a FF, it once again proves how hard it is to make the FF.
I hope they keep knocking on the door and giving themselves chances to go deep. The worst part of being a fan is almost every year of your fandom ends in disappointment. To be honest, if they had won on Friday and lost on Sunday by shooting 4-31 from three, I would not feel any better or think the season was a vastly bigger success.
I think the bolded has something to do with the inescapable fact that of the 68 teams that are in the tourney, 67 will end their seasons with a loss. ;D
I thought our ceiling was more likely the EE, but possibly the FF. Was I disappointed? HELL yes! But willing to criticize the players for a horrendous game? Sure, and you probably are too. After all, we could have shot threes better than them, right? Even Muggsy could if he was on someone's shoulders. That would be yours, not mine. I might accidently drop him.
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Upon further reflection...the last two years have been the most successful in ~ decade.
I'm hopeful we don't have to wander in the desert for another decade to have another chance and that is because of our coach and the culture he's built.
Personally I would trade a FF for the last two years, but part of that is that being a Marquette fan has been a once a decade feast or famine most of my life.
I think we are finally in a position for that to change and I'm happy to support that.
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In the excuses thread on Ball Inflation, someone said the bright lights were the cause.
I don't think the physical bright lights. But I definitely believe the metaphysical bright lights on playing a BB game with so much on the line.
Maybe next year not such an issue.
Going one round farther in the dance every year with Shaka & Company.
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Going one round farther in the dance every year with Shaka & Company.
Looking forward to the double national championship in 2029.
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In the excuses thread on Ball Inflation, someone said the bright lights were the cause.
I don't think the physical bright lights. But I definitely believe the metaphysical bright lights on playing a BB game with so much on the line.
Maybe next year not such an issue.
Going one round farther in the dance every year with Shaka & Company.
There ya go! Just looking at the history of the tourney and the many FF and natty worthy teams that get knocked out every year should be enough for scoopers to understand how very difficult it is to get far. Coaches (and teams) with experience like Purdue and UCONN-along with being very good - have a better chance of advancing. It's not rocket science.
Of course, those bright lights might affect some teams a lot more than others, so there's that. ;D
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Sigh. Only idiots are calling our season "failed" for us not having reached the Final Four.
We had a team capable of winning the national title. We're deeply disappointed the season ended when it did. Marquette won the double Big East title last season and that was cool. We - including Shaka and every single player on the team - had higher goals this year. Our heroes fell short, and that sucks, for all the fans and especially for the players and coaches who worked so hard.
And despite how it ended, all the fans I personally know - as well as most Scoopers, based on the comments here over the last several days - are extremely grateful for the outstanding basketball we got to enjoy these last two years.
Can't all that be true?
Yes, but it crosses a line into a different category when people say they would trade MU’s season, or last 2 seasons, for a run to the Final Four like NC State is having.
I wouldn’t, and it isn’t even close.
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Yes, but it crosses a line into a different category when people say they would trade MU’s season, or last 2 seasons, for a run to the Final Four like NC State is having.
No it doesn't. I can be extremely grateful for the season MU had, but wish it could be traded for what NC State has gotten to experience.
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No it doesn't. I can be extremely grateful for the season MU had, but wish it could be traded for what NC State has gotten to experience.
So, in other words, you would have been happier being a fan of NC State this season, even with all of the losses and lack of big wins for four months, no guarantee of even making the NCAA tournament , talk of firing the coach, etc.
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So, in other words, you would have been happier being a fan of NC State this season, even with all of the losses and lack of big wins for four months, no guarantee of even making the NCAA tournament , talk of firing the coach, etc.
Is there some mathematical equation to determine how many regular season losses versus post season wins=happiness?
To each his own.
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So, in other words, you would have been happier being a fan of NC State this season, even with all of the losses and lack of big wins for four months, no guarantee of even making the NCAA tournament , talk of firing the coach, etc.
I'd take rough regular season that ends with a conference championship and Final Four over this past Marquette season 100 times out of 100.
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I'd take rough regular season that ends with a conference championship and Final Four over this past Marquette season 100 times out of 100.
Yep. Love it or hate it, deep runs always are remembered more.
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We're all dealing with hypotheticals here.
wisblue, you think you'd prefer a great regular season and early-round NCAAT exit ... but if we had a season exactly like NC State's - including victories in these last 5 win-or-go-home games - you might be thrilled beyond even your expectations. You might be saying, "Damn, we faced a ton of adversity, and I thought Shaka was cooked, but gotta hand it to the guys for rallying like this. Our first Final Four in 21 years. This is the best!"
Or not.
Nobody really knows how they'd react to a situation until there's an actual situation to react to.
Sitting here today, I think I'd definitely have traded our 2023-24 season for NC State's as long as it ended up in the Final Four (or more). If you think you wouldn't have, that's cool too.
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Is there some mathematical equation to determine how many regular season losses versus post season wins=happiness?
To each his own.
No, it is purely a matter of taste, and I recognize that my taste is in the minority.
I hope it doesn’t happen soon, but it would be interesting to see how some of these people who would prefer NC State’s season would react if MU actually had 4 months like that, and then lost in the semifinal round.
My guess is that many of them would be calling for the coach’s head for four months, and would go right back to it when the team loses and they realize that next year is going to be a complete rebuild because the team was built on 5th year transfers.
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Just curious how many Scoopers would have traded 2018-2019 MU's season for the results of 2023-2024 NC State?
Wonder how WolfpackScoop judges this year's amazing run from the vantage point of 2030, after being mired in 6 more years of mediocrity under Keatts?
I enjoyed the season we had, thanks.
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A natty is always the ultimate prize, but look at the littered killing field of the NCAA tourney and tell me those many teams are now of nominal value. I would not trade NC State their mediocre regular season for ours. Part of the bargain would have required watching them play their regular season. ::)
I think this was an excellent point. Our family had a a great deal of fun and excitement all season long watching MU this year. (All sorts of new MU and player specific sweatshirts and tee shirts in our closets!) One bad night doesn't take that away.
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MU basketball is fun again and I expect it to continue. When MU hoops is fun I attend games and travel to tournaments.
I see the program firmly set in consistent relevancy under the current coach and I expect that to continue.
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I think this was an excellent point. Our family had a a great deal of fun and excitement all season long watching MU this year. (All sorts of new MU and player specific sweatshirts and tee shirts in our closets!) One bad night doesn't take that away.
It's all about individual preferences, but I would 100% take NCSTs season over ours. Especially since they've won 9 straight elimination games - an incredible, exciting and legendary run that came out of the adversity of the regular season.
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My family has been attached at the hip regarding MU basketball since the day Shaka arrived. On a selfish note, I have loved the family excitement about the program and it has provided a lot of fun for us. My boys and I have talked more MU basketball over the past three years than the previous 20 years combined.
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We're all dealing with hypotheticals here.
wisblue, you think you'd prefer a great regular season and early-round NCAAT exit ... but if we had a season exactly like NC State's - including victories in these last 5 win-or-go-home games - you might be thrilled beyond even your expectations. You might be saying, "Damn, we faced a ton of adversity, and I thought Shaka was cooked, but gotta hand it to the guys for rallying like this. Our first Final Four in 21 years. This is the best!"
Or not.
Nobody really knows how they'd react to a situation until there's an actual situation to react to.
Sitting here today, I think I'd definitely have traded our 2023-24 season for NC State's as long as it ended up in the Final Four (or more). If you think you wouldn't have, that's cool too.
I’m sure I would enjoy the miraculous run while it was happening, but if it ended with a loss in the semifinals there would be some disappointment then, it just occurred a week later than losing in the Sweet 16 round.
The reason I prefer a season like MU had this year is that I enjoy so much the evolution of a college basketball season: the nonconference season and early season tournaments, then the conference season leading up to the conference tournaments and NCAA selection and tournament. That is so much more enjoyable when the team(s) you follow most closely are in the hunt to the point that you look at every games as affecting conference standings and NCAA seeding.
When the team is not even on the NCAA bubble, that takes away almost all of the enjoyment for me. I know how I feel in those circumstances, and there have been plenty of them, but fortunately not too many in the last 20 years.
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A season like ours makes me optimistic that the program is in good hands and that a breakthrough will eventually come in the tournament. The season that NCST is having is probably more fun, but I also think there's a very good likelihood that it's a one-off and that next season Kevin Keatts will go back to running a mediocre program. Think there could be parallels to Frank Martin, use a FF to get a 5 year extension and do nothing with it.
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So, in other words, you would have been happier being a fan of NC State this season, even with all of the losses and lack of big wins for four months, no guarantee of even making the NCAA tournament , talk of firing the coach, etc.
If by "etc." you mean winning five straight in the ACC tournament, then getting all the way to the Final Four, I say ABSOLUTELY. Not a question.
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A season like ours makes me optimistic that the program is in good hands and that a breakthrough will eventually come in the tournament. The season that NCST is having is probably more fun, but I also think there's a very good likelihood that it's a one-off and that next season Kevin Keatts will go back to running a mediocre program. Think there could be parallels to Frank Martin, use a FF to get a 5 year extension and do nothing with it.
The NC State “season” is definitely not more fun. The issue is whether the postseason run overcomes what by any measure was a miserable season before that.
With Keatts the question is whether he can go back to the portal and piece together a competitive team for next year. It took him two years worth of transfers to get to this point, and even that wasn’t good enough to land an at large bid for the NCAA tournament this season.
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If by "etc." you mean winning five straight in the ACC tournament, then getting all the way to the Final Four, I say ABSOLUTELY. Not a question.
You’ve made that clear.
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The NC State “season” is definitely not more fun. The issue is whether the postseason run overcomes what by any measure was a miserable season before that.
With Keatts the question is whether he can go back to the portal and piece together a competitive team for next year. It took him two years worth of transfers to get to this point, and even that wasn’t good enough to land an at large bid for the NCAA tournament this season.
Our season as a whole consists of 27 wins, their season as a whole consists of 26 wins. When the margins are that close, I would say the timeliness of the wins more than makes up for it.
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Our season as a whole consists of 27 wins, their season as a whole consists of 26 wins. When the margins are that close, I would say the timeliness of the wins more than makes up for it.
Yep, it was fun winning in November, but not even a choice for me between winning in Nov vs March
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Since fantasizing about trading our regular season with NC State's for their tourney run seems to be well accepted here, why not fantasize that we won our game vs. them and also took down Duke, putting us in the FF?
Look at the history of the tourney and then tell me that NC State is not an outlier. It is far more common that teams that had very good seasons make it to the FF and that the one that wins it all is not a team with a miraculous run.
I will take a pass on all the fantasizing and enjoy watching Marquette's entire season-regular + BET+ NCAA starting in November. Dealing in reality has long been my M.O.
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Since fantasizing about trading our regular season with NC State's for their tourney run seems to be well accepted here, why not fantasize that we won our game vs. them and also took down Duke, putting us in the FF?
Because that's not the hypothetical that was brought up.
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Because that's not the hypothetical that was brought up.
I just brought it up and added it to the fantasizing. Seems like a fair question to me. :D
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https://youtu.be/BiiJ6m6GFZw?si=vX85IoBQwoBWS9er
If you’ve never seen it, you should watch the end of the regulation of this game and see how missed FT’s (4 out of 5), fouling a 3 point shooter with a 6 point lead in the last minute, and what I consider coaching malpractice by Tony Bennett allowed NCState to keep its run to the NCAA tournament alive.
I don’t always skewer a coach who doesn’t foul with a 3 point lead when an opponent sinks a 3 point shot in the last 7 or 8 seconds. But, in this case, VA was at the free throw line with 5 seconds left and a 3 point lead. They only had 3 team fouls so had 3 to give before even putting NCS in the bonus.
For some reason I don’t understand, he chose not to put anyone on the free throw lane to contest a rebound or a charge up court. What was he concerned about? Even if one of his players fouled going for the rebound or getting in the way of someone moving downcourt, that would have just given NCS the ball out of bounds in the backcourt. He could have fouled the player receiving an inbound pass multiple times before even getting into the bonus, taking a little time off the clock each time.
I hope Keatts sends Bennett a nice Christmas present for possibly saving his job.
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Since fantasizing about trading our regular season with NC State's for their tourney run seems to be well accepted here, why not fantasize that we won our game vs. them and also took down Duke, putting us in the FF?
Look at the history of the tourney and then tell me that NC State is not an outlier. It is far more common that teams that had very good seasons make it to the FF and that the one that wins it all is not a team with a miraculous run.
I will take a pass on all the fantasizing and enjoy watching Marquette's entire season-regular + BET+ NCAA starting in November. Dealing in reality has long been my M.O.
1. I didn't bring up the hypotheticals. (Nor did you.) I'm just playing along. I totally enjoyed our regular season, and totally enjoyed being in Indy for the first two rounds. I am disappointed by the loss to NC State, as is everyone else.
2. One could argue that Marquette was an outlier in 1977. On the "bubble," as it were back then; got hot down the stretch; squeaked into the tourney; stayed hot in March. I think most long-time Marquette fans are at least as satisfied with that season as they were with this past season, when there was never a doubt we'd be dancing and probably as a top-3 seed.
3. There actually are some Scoopers who said Marquette fans were "dreaming" for believing that their talented, experienced #2-seeded team with an All-American PG and two all-conference-level players could at least get to the Final Four.
IMHO, it would have been illogical to not believe - as well as pretty joyless.
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1. I didn't bring up the hypotheticals. (Nor did you.) I'm just playing along. I totally enjoyed our regular season, and totally enjoyed being in Indy for the first two rounds. I am disappointed by the loss to NC State, as is everyone else.
2. One could argue that Marquette was an outlier in 1977. On the "bubble," as it were back then; got hot down the stretch; squeaked into the tourney; stayed hot in March. I think most long-time Marquette fans are at least as satisfied with that season as they were with this past season, when there was never a doubt we'd be dancing and probably as a top-3 seed.
3. There actually are some Scoopers who said Marquette fans were "dreaming" for believing that their talented, experienced #2-seeded team with an All-American PG and two all-conference-level players could at least get to the Final Four.
IMHO, it would have been illogical to not believe - as well as pretty joyless.
Nice post. And Marquette being the outlier in 1977 made the natty even more exciting. Great memories! I almost lost my voice screaming as I watched that game.
I wrote earlier that EE was my expectation and possibly a FF. My reasoning was based upon our problems with big, beefy opponents, and not on our team, so... not joyless. Sooner or later, I thought we would face opponents with too many big guys, bigger than our own. As per my usual disclaimer, I have always loved being proved wrong any time I had doubts about our team.
Credit to Burns, definitely a big guy. Whether he weighs 275, 300, or 325 (I'll let scoop's Burns' weight guesser come up with his final number) , he caused us plenty of trouble.
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Credit to Burns, definitely a big guy. Whether he weighs 275, 300, or 325 (I'll let scoop's Burns' weight guesser come up with his final number) , he caused us plenty of trouble.
We played Burns by far better than anybody else has in weeks. Only 4 points and 4 rebounds in 27 minutes.
I did think Shaka waited too long in adjusting to Burns' passing ability, though. We didn't need to double him as often or as hard as we did. When we did less of that in the second half, he still wasn't able to do much against us himself, and it created fewer passing options for him.
A lot of talent, though. I'm especially impressed with his quick first step and his passing.
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Here's my comparable.
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Of course, the last two years were success, and both ended in disappointment. It has been the best two year stretch in a long time and entertaining as hell. All of us are disappointed but only an idiot would consider it a failure. When I heard the Purdue had been to the FF in roughly 40 years and Tenn has never been to a FF, it once again proves how hard it is to make the FF.
I hope they keep knocking on the door and giving themselves chances to go deep. The worst part of being a fan is almost every year of your fandom ends in disappointment. To be honest, if they had won on Friday and lost on Sunday by shooting 4-31 from three, I would not feel any better or think the season was a vastly bigger success.
Except for '77, the Al years were a disappointment. Not! Just a little perspective after our bubble was popped to end the season.
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We played Burns by far better than anybody else has in weeks. Only 4 points and 4 rebounds in 27 minutes.
I did think Shaka waited too long in adjusting to Burns' passing ability, though. We didn't need to double him as often or as hard as we did. When we did less of that in the second half, he still wasn't able to do much against us himself, and it created fewer passing options for him.
A lot of talent, though. I'm especially impressed with his quick first step and his passing.
True regarding Burns when considering just him. But the combo of him plus his teammates gave us trouble.
I saw that you stayed off Scoop for a while after the game. As a matter of self-discipline, I stay off at least 24 hours after a loss. Right after the game, I practiced a music score that requires a lot of attention to detail. I like to clear things like ..whatever the Hell that was...out of my head. Practicing the score was like a fire break. :D
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Marquette in 1977 is not a good comparable to NC State this year.
MU started the season rated number 2 and was never lower than 12 until 3 straight losses dropped them to 18. Most of their losses were to ranked teams and they had a few wins over ranked teams.
There was never a question about making the tournament in the pre parity era until that 3 game streak, but they removed the doubt by winning the next 4, all against unranked opponents.
There was never a question that they were capable of beating anyone they might play in the tournament; they just had to do it.
They did get some breaks because most of the highest rated teams were eliminated before MU would have gotten to them.
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Marquette in 1977 is not a good comparable to NC State this year.
MU started the season rated number 2 and was never lower than 12 until 3 straight losses dropped them to 18. Most of their losses were to ranked teams and they had a few wins over ranked teams.
There was never a question about making the tournament in the pre parity era until that 3 game streak, but they removed the doubt by winning the next 4, all against unranked opponents.
There was never a question that they were capable of beating anyone they might play in the tournament; they just had to do it.
They did get some breaks because most of the highest rated teams were eliminated before MU would have gotten to them.
Excellent counter to comparing MU in '77 and NC State today.
We got a big break in one of the games. In Miracles on the Hardwood, Gasaway wrote about our buzzer beater win vs. UNC Charlotte. Did the ball leave Whitehead's hands before the clock expired? His quote from Al about the refs: "I argued so hard about the clock, because I didn't want them to get around to Jerome's hand being in the cylinder." McGuire would volunteer years later. We may have won in OT anyway, but I loved reading this. Vintage Al. ;D
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MU was either ranked #1 or #2 in the preseason of '77. Poor regular season, but MU was the real deal that year.
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In reality, I am not sure the roster this year was really strong enough to get to the FF. Yes, Tyler could work magic sometimes and Kam could be near unstoppable sometimes, but the team was not really very physical, especially on the boards. We all know that. But, even with their imperfections, they were a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
I loved Goose's comment above about MU basketball being a connection point for his family. The same thing has happened at our house. Great fun when your kids, neither of whom went to MU, know all the players' names and come over to watch the games.
I'm sorry this season ended badly, but there are 300 other teams that would love to have been in the Sweet 16. I fully enjoyed the season and look forward to seeing what next season brings.
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In reality, I am not sure the roster this year was really strong enough to get to the FF. Yes, Tyler could work magic sometimes and Kam could be near unstoppable sometimes, but the team was not really very physical, especially on the boards. We all know that. But, even with their imperfections, they were a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
The NC State and Alabama rosters are stronger than Marquette's?
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True regarding Burns when considering just him. But the combo of him plus his teammates gave us trouble.
I saw that you stayed off Scoop for a while after the game. As a matter of self-discipline, I stay off at least 24 hours after a loss. Right after the game, I practiced a music score that requires a lot of attention to detail. I like to clear things like ..whatever the Hell that was...out of my head. Practicing the score was like a fire break. :D
I stayed away until Monday morning. I'm a super-positive person, and I was pretty sure the vibe here would be anything but that. I actually was pleasantly surprised to find quite a few threads that weren't "They suck."
The only musical instrument I know how to play is the kazoo, so I couldn't go that route for peace of mind. Glad you settled your score!
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In reality, I am not sure the roster this year was really strong enough to get to the FF. Yes, Tyler could work magic sometimes and Kam could be near unstoppable sometimes, but the team was not really very physical, especially on the boards. We all know that. But, even with their imperfections, they were a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
I loved Goose's comment above about MU basketball being a connection point for his family. The same thing has happened at our house. Great fun when your kids, neither of whom went to MU, know all the players' names and come over to watch the games.
I'm sorry this season ended badly, but there are 300 other teams that would love to have been in the Sweet 16. I fully enjoyed the season and look forward to seeing what next season brings.
One of the best posts I have read since our umm..."finale". I agree with almost all of the things you wrote except maybe the strength of our roster, so I will resist bolding anything. The last two seasons in particular have brought my Marquette alum brothers and sister-in-law, my BIL and sister, and my wife into our own Marquette fan club. I am the self-appointed president.
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Random Trivial Reflections. Brewers have made the Playoffs 9 years. All 9 Years the team that beat the Brewers made the World Series.
Maquette got knocked out by Final Four Participants South Carolina in 2017 North Carolina in 2022 and North Carolina State in 2024.
Tyler was not out of the game against NCState long but when he was it seemed Marquette got down by about 10 more points. It is easy to arm chair QB and say Tyler should have played the whole Game as some players on other teams have recently but who knows.
All The #2 Seeds failed to make the Elite 8 this year. Am overall very happy Marquette made the Sweet 16
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Random Trivial Reflections. Brewers have made the Playoffs 9 years. All 9 Years the team that beat the Brewers made the World Series.
Maquette got knocked out by Final Four Participants South Carolina in 2019 North Carolina in 2022 and North Carolina State in 2024.
Tyler was not out of the game against NCState long but when he was it seemed Marquette got down by about 10 more points. It is easy to arm chair QB and say Tyler should have played the whole Game as some players on other teams have recently but who knows.
All The #2 Seeds failed to make the Elite 8 this year. Am overall very happy Marquette made the Sweet 16
Tennessee made the elite 8.
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Tennessee made the elite 8.
Thank You for the correction. Am going blame that on my wife since she told me that about the Elite 8 but do not tell her I told you I blame her lol
I did tell Dwyane Wade our son beat his Dad last summer in Pop a Shot but told Dwyane not to tell his Dad. But Dwyane Wade jokingly said he was going to tell his Dad haha.
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Thank You for the correction. Am going blame that on my wife since she told me that about the Elite 8 but do not tell her I told you I blame her lol
You could add that 2 number 1 seeds failed to make the Elite 8 this year.
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You could add that 2 number 1 seeds failed to make the Elite 8 this year.
Yes agree.
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Thank You for the correction. Am going blame that on my wife since she told me that about the Elite 8 but do not tell her I told you I blame her lol
Do you honestly believe that your wife will not find out somehow? :D You're screwed pal.
Many decades ago when I was at Marquette, the girls knew everything about who was dating who, the breakups, the two-timing, etc. No internet of course, but they did not need it. They had an info sharing structure that made Russia's KGB look like a bunch of amateurs.
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Writing this from the Charlotte airport as my wife and I await our flight to Phoenix.
We booked and paid for this trip about 6 months ago, and at the time I didn't even know the Final Four was in suburban Phoenix. Once I realized it was, I was excited about the possibility of seeing Marquette there.
So it's more than a little bittersweet that we're going and MU isn't. But, if I have to look for a silver lining, it did save us a ton of $$$ on game tickets.
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Writing this from the Charlotte airport as my wife and I await our flight to Phoenix.
We booked and paid for this trip about 6 months ago, and at the time I didn't even know the Final Four was in suburban Phoenix. Once I realized it was, I was excited about the possibility of seeing Marquette there.
So it's more than a little bittersweet that we're going and MU isn't. But, if I have to look for a silver lining, it did save us a ton of $$$ on game tickets.
Yeah. And I was hoping to celebrate Marquette's win in the semis on my birthday this Saturday. It was the only present I wanted. I'm tempted to say that I would trade my BD for a semi W just like many scoopers were willing to trade our season for NC's FF, but that would mean that I would be permanently horizontal rather than vertical. And before Goose suggests that I "take one for the team", after you Goose. After you.
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It is a great economy. Go to the games!!
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It is a great economy. Go to the games!!
It is a good economy (you pot-stirrer, you) and we're gonna spend a ton on this trip. But we'll be enjoying the games in front of a good TV rather than through binoculars while sitting in a football stadium.