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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: wadesworld on February 28, 2024, 07:47:46 PM
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Is he on the bench? Hurt?
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TV said abdominal issue.
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Marquette tweeted questionable to return with an oblique.
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Just tweeted oblique. And that’s not good. Hopefully mild but that can be awhile.
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Is he on the bench? Hurt?
No. Yes.
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Is he on the bench? Hurt?
He’s been in the locker room since the 12 minute mark of the second half.
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https://www.sjchs.org/smart-living-home/early-fall-2015/oblique-strains#:~:text=Sharp.,describe%20the%20pain%20they%20experienced.
Let’s hope it’s mild… 🤕
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Could be the unluckiest 2 year post season stretch in history. Mild oblique strains can heal in a few days. Serious ones can require survey and take months. Omfg
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Could be the unluckiest 2 year post season stretch in history. Mild oblique strains can heal in a few days. Serious ones can require survey and take months. Omfg
Terrible. Very, very, concerning. And tonight was a brilliant team performance.
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Damn Providence rough-housing.
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Deep breaths, everyone.
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Back in the bench smiling. But holding his side.
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Torso boot tomorrow
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Torso boot tomorrow
Full body cast. Push him around on a dolly. Whatever it takes
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Neoprene Corset
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Hopefully he bounces back like he did from his sprained ankle. He’s a tough kid.
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Deep breaths, everyone.
Yep. Concern for sure, but folks need to chill.
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Damn Providence rough-housing.
Believe they said he felt something after making a pass.
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Praying for good news
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Girdle.
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I’m confident he’s ok.
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MVP of the Marquette Worriers
Terrible. Very, very, concerning. And tonight was a brilliant team performance.
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I’m confident he’s ok.
Thank god doctor has finally weighed in.
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Deep breaths, everyone.
Except Tyler. That could cause discomfort.
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If I had to guess, Tyler will miss Saturday at minimum as a precaution
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good Lord, not this crap...
If I had to guess, Tyler will miss Saturday at minimum as a precaution
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If I had to guess, Tyler will miss Saturday at minimum as a precaution
Maybe. Or maybe he’s fine. No reason to speculate right now.
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If I had to guess, Tyler will miss Saturday at minimum as a precaution
“Guess” being the operative word here.
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Shaka said he hurt it while twisting to make a pass.
He didn’t know anything but said that he was with the doctor.
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If I had to guess, Tyler will miss Saturday at minimum as a precaution
I'd guess closer to 30/11/8
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Thank god doctor has finally weighed in.
No kidding. At most he misses a few meals.
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Was at the game near the MU bench and he looked like he was in good spirits at the end of the game and postgame. Nothing from him and the players/coaches he was interacting with suggested something awful.
But that could mean absolutely nothing. Hopefully just a tweak that he can play through.
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Hopefully he bounces back like he did from his sprained ankle. He’s a tough kid.
I saw an up close picture of his ankle after he rolled it. I’d still be nursing it in a boot if that was me. Don’t know how he walked let alone played, let alone played so well. Tough kid indeed.
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Hit him with some of those 70's era NFL pain killers.
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Hit him with some of those 70's era NFL pain killers.
Hopefully our training staff has a number of dolphin sex audio tapes on hand.
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Hopefully our training staff has a number of dolphin sex audio tapes on hand.
Wow, I totally missed your reference here, but am too scared to google "dolphin sex audio tape"
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Shaka said he hurt it while twisting to make a pass.
Obviously, we need him to simply avoid making any more passes.
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Shaka said he hurt it while twisting to make a pass.
He didn’t know anything but said that he was with the doctor.
Reminds me of River's line when a reporter asked him about someone's health:
"You do realize that Doc is just a nickname? "
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Wow, I totally missed your reference here, but am too scared to google "dolphin sex audio tape"
We don’t kink Shame. You’re good buddy
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Sending Prayers For Tyler Kolek!!
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Or … you don’t have a f’ing clue as to his condition so why would you venture a f’ing guess.
“Guess” being the operative word here.
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Here’s the Kolek pass that produces clear discomfort and - soon after - leads to his exit from the game for good.
https://youtu.be/Cb_ACCRdW7M?feature=shared
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Here’s the Kolek pass that produces clear discomfort and - soon after - leads to his exit from the game for good.
https://youtu.be/Cb_ACCRdW7M?feature=shared
Thanks for posting
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Wow, I totally missed your reference here, but am too scared to google "dolphin sex audio tape"
See Aaron Rodgers surgery recovery.
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I have a fear this is Dominic James redux.
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I have a fear this is Dominic James redux.
you read my mind!…with the Dominator, that was a F4 team!!
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Was at the game near the MU bench and he looked like he was in good spirits at the end of the game and postgame. Nothing from him and the players/coaches he was interacting with suggested something awful.
But that could mean absolutely nothing. Hopefully just a tweak that he can play through.
It will not feel great when he wakes up this morning, either way.
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Obviously, we need him to simply avoid making any more passes.
*twisting passes. Traditional chest or bounce passes only
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Not sure what to make of the fact that he returned to the game briefly after he went to the locker room once and then decided quickly that he needed to come out.
Hopefully an indication that it isn’t too serious and that he can return to action without limitation after some treatment, even if he has to miss the rest of the regular season and BET.
In addition to the Dominic James flashbacks that we have all had, I am flashing back to last year’s NCAA where I will always believe that Kolek’s thumb injury was a significant factor in his subpar game against MSU.
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*twisting passes. Traditional chest or bounce passes only
And 4 before any shot. Preferably a mid range jumper.
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Hoping he looked at the scoreboard and went “nah, they’re fine, I don’t have to push myself”.
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Unusual to hear of basketball player with this injury. I literally don’t recall another example in college or NBA. If there is example, would love to hear how long player(s) missed. Baseball players miss weeks with this as I recall.
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If I had to guess, Tyler will miss Saturday at minimum as a precaution
I'd guess closer to 30/11/8
OK, HowardsWorld and TSmith set the parameters. Using those, we'll put the O/U at:
15/5.5/4
The majority of categories wins (e.g., 16/6/3 would be Over; 14/6/3 would be Under).
I'm taking the Over. Sincerely hope I'm right.
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Not sure what to make of the fact that he returned to the game briefly after he went to the locker room once and then decided quickly that he needed to come out.
Hopefully an indication that it isn’t too serious and that he can return to action without limitation after some treatment, even if he has to miss the rest of the regular season and BET.
In addition to the Dominic James flashbacks that we have all had, I am flashing back to last year’s NCAA where I will always believe that Kolek’s thumb injury was a significant factor in his subpar game against MSU.
I'm hoping that the 20 point lead had a little something to do with why TyKo checked out of the game and stayed out. I'd like to think that he was saying (or at least thinking), "I can go" and the staff convinced him that the game was in hand and he should take the rest of the night off.
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Not sure what to make of the fact that he returned to the game briefly after he went to the locker room once and then decided quickly that he needed to come out.
Hopefully an indication that it isn’t too serious and that he can return to action without limitation after some treatment, even if he has to miss the rest of the regular season and BET.
In addition to the Dominic James flashbacks that we have all had, I am flashing back to last year’s NCAA where I will always believe that Kolek’s thumb injury was a significant factor in his subpar game against MSU.
Agreed. This seems to get overlooked often. He had been playing at such a high level for many games before that and was a shell of himself v MSU. Between that, D James's foot and Diener's hand, late season injuries have been aggravating. Glad Tyler came out quickly last night rather than try to play through it. Just have to hope it is a mild strain but will be really unfortunate if he can't play these next two with the way the team has been playing. Deep breaths. Wait and see.
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At least we have a good excuse for getting bounced the first weekend!
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and a good excuse for slipping deep into the 3 seed line...
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and a good excuse for slipping deep into the 3 seed line...
Not happening.
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Believe they said he felt something after making a pass.
This happened to me at the Avalanche, 1981. Failed miserably with the tall brunette...
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Unusual to hear of basketball player with this injury. I literally don’t recall another example in college or NBA. If there is example, would love to hear how long player(s) missed. Baseball players miss weeks with this as I recall.
Marcus Smart was out about a month with one
https://www.nba.com/news/report-marcus-smart-torn-oblique-out-two-rounds
Same with Cole Anthony
https://www.nba.com/magic/news/orlando-magic-cole-anthony-injury-update-right-internal-oblique-muscle-injury-story-20221027
Dillin Brooks missed about two weeks
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rahathuq/2024/01/14/rockets-forward-dillon-brooks-returns-from-injury/?sh=4fc496ec3df5
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Marcus Smart was out about a month with one
https://www.nba.com/news/report-marcus-smart-torn-oblique-out-two-rounds
Same with Cole Anthony
https://www.nba.com/magic/news/orlando-magic-cole-anthony-injury-update-right-internal-oblique-muscle-injury-story-20221027
Dillin Brooks missed about two weeks
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rahathuq/2024/01/14/rockets-forward-dillon-brooks-returns-from-injury/?sh=4fc496ec3df5
Seeing Markannen missing a month in 2020 and Shabazz missing a month as well in 2015. So as far as NBA oblique timelines, it appears a month is most common. But we obviously don't know the extent of Kolek's strain.
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TKo “will be limited, might be out for a while” is what I’m hearing.
Then again he was a dead man walking after the ankle injury and scored 500 against Illinois. But just reporting what I was just told a few min ago.
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TKo “will be limited, might be out for a while” is what I’m hearing.
Then again he was a dead man walking after the ankle injury and scored 500 against Illinois. But just reporting what I was just told a few min ago.
By whom?
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By whom?
Yeah. Not telling you that. And I know everyone questions sources, but I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t trust the source with the two initials behind his name who is closely associated with the team.
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In addition to having no idea of the relative severity of Kolek’s injury, I’m not sure if the NBA situations are the same.
In the NBA load management is common, so there is no reason at all to rush a player back. They might come back sooner if it were playoff time, but NBA teams have the luxury of playing the long game.
While it would stink for the team to have him miss the big games coming up, if we knew that Kolek would be out for the rest of the regular season and BET, but be as close to full strength as possible for the NCAA first round, I think most of us would take that.
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Yeah. Not telling you that. And I know everyone questions sources, but I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t trust the source...who is closely associated with the team.
Frankly, you should have stopped there. You don't owe anyone an explanation. Either you've got a legitimate source that you really should protect (which, for some reason, I am inclined to believe) or you're full of crap. Assuming you're talking about a legitimate source, there's really no reason to give that additional information about him. There's no upside and you really don't want to cause him any problems.
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M.D. is a better source in this situation than S.J.
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Frankly, you should have stopped there. You don't owe anyone an explanation. Either you've got a legitimate source that you really should protect (which, for some reason, I am inclined to believe) or you're full of crap. Assuming you're talking about a legitimate source, there's really no reason to give that additional information about him. There's no upside and you really don't want to cause him any problems.
Touché
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In addition to having no idea of the relative severity of Kolek’s injury, I’m not sure if the NBA situations are the same.
In the NBA load management is common, so there is no reason at all to rush a player back. They might come back sooner if it were playoff time, but NBA teams have the luxury of playing the long game.
Marcus Smart's injury came at the start of the playoffs. Don't think it was a load management situation.
But yeah, there are great variations in any kind of muscle strain. Kolek could play Saturday or he could be done for the season. We'll see.
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In addition to having no idea of the relative severity of Kolek’s injury...
This is what I'm hoping. By definition, the oblique injuries that are going to be reported on are those that are more serious that will cause missed time. I suspect that there are less severe cases that never get reported because they're just tweaks that cause pain/discomfort but don't affect playing time.
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More credible with D.D.S. after his/her name, aina?
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Only when dealing with a chipped tooth
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Hard to see them winning either of the next 2 without Kolek should he not play...
Even if he does it will be tough...
Anyone know the tiebreaker for the 2/3 seeds should Marquette and Creighton have the same record and split the 2 matchups?
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When is it common to have an official update on his status? This afternoon?
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Heard from a source (can't say who -journalistic integrity and all) that Tyler had his oblique amputated this morning
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More credible with D.D.S. after his/her name, aina?
Not the ones on this board.
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Hard to see them winning either of the next 2 without Kolek should he not play...
Even if he does it will be tough...
Anyone know the tiebreaker for the 2/3 seeds should Marquette and Creighton have the same record and split the 2 matchups?
Tie breaker would be record vs top seed in which Creighton is 1-1 and MU is 0-1 vs UConn. Next would be whoever ranks next which would be record vs Hall, which they are 2-0 and we are 1-1. Basically we lose most tiebreakers if we do not beat them and finish with a similar record.
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Heard from a source (can't say who -journalistic integrity and all) that Tyler had his oblique amputated this morning
So, good to go Saturday?
Excellent news.
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Tie breaker would be record vs top seed in which Creighton is 1-1 and MU is 0-1 vs UConn. Next would be whoever ranks next which would be record vs Hall, which they are 2-0 and we are 1-1. Basically we lose most tiebreakers if we do not beat them and finish with a similar record.
We also would lose tiebreakers to Seton Hall (who beat UConn) for 3rd/4th. That might be an even bigger deal.
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When is it common to have an official update on his status? This afternoon?
They won't share anything until Saturday.
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Just get right for the NCAA Tournament. While I would prefer to win, I don't really care about the next three or BET.
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Just get right for the NCAA Tournament. While I would prefer to win, I don't really care about the next three or BET.
Yep. That is where I stand. Three weeks from today or tomorrow is all that matters. If he needs those three weeks, give it to him.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diVaagssHYQ
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Marcus Smart's injury came at the start of the playoffs. Don't think it was a load management situation.
But yeah, there are great variations in any kind of muscle strain. Kolek could play Saturday or he could be done for the season. We'll see.
Are those the only two options?
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Definitely in an expecting the worst, hoping for the best mindset.
Best Case: TKO went BACK into the game after the doctors looked at him. Still didn't feel great when he went back in, they were up huge, and pulled himself, because why risk it?
Worst Case: The thing got way worse overnight and like most of these injuries, it's 2-4 weeks.
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We also would lose tiebreakers to Seton Hall (who beat UConn) for 3rd/4th. That might be an even bigger deal.
That requires Marquette to lose out and seton hall to upset UConn. I don’t see either happening. Frankly even with the injury to Kolek I believe Marquettes beats UConn at home. Without him at creighton however it could be ugly
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TK is needed in the NCAA and unless 100% I hope he is held out. There really is nothing to be gained over the next two weeks that is worth taking any risk, imo.
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Not the ones on this board.
I’ve been told they’ve already administered Tyler a steady dose of hyrodxychloroquine
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I’ve been told they’ve already administered Tyler a steady dose of hyrodxychloroquine
Well, mixed in the proper dosage with Ivermectin and Fentanyl, that should fix it.
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Well, mixed in the proper dosage with Ivermectin and Fentanyl, that should fix it.
I have experience in administering Ivermectin to horses. Too bad I do not live in Milwaukee or I could help out.
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I am willing to donate my oblique. It's not very good according to my PT and declining swing speed, but it's probably better than the one they just amputed
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Are those the only two options?
Yes.
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Hard to see them winning either of the next 2 without Kolek should he not play...
Even if he does it will be tough...
Anyone know the tiebreaker for the 2/3 seeds should Marquette and Creighton have the same record and split the 2 matchups?
Record against top team, then 4th place teams, work your way down. So if both finish with 6 losses and MU loses to UConn, Creighton would be 2 seed with win over UConn and MU getting swept by UConn. 2-3 not a huge difference except times. Would rather be 3 and avoid St Johns than be 2 and have to play them as the 7.
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TK is needed in the NCAA and unless 100% I hope he is held out. There really is nothing to be gained over the next two weeks that is worth taking any risk, imo.
If they leave that decision solely up to Tyler...he is going to play.
When Kam sprained his ankle it sounded like he made the decision himself to play and they didn't stop him until 5 minutes in when they realized he looked very hobbled.
I agree, hold him out if there is risk, but I won't be surprised 1 bit to see him playing on Saturday.
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Yes.
Damn. Has the trading deadline passed?
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Heard from a source (can't say who -journalistic integrity and all) that Tyler had his oblique amputated this morning
I heard the same, but I also heard that he got a transplant from a very jacked donor. He's going to be ready to go Saturday.
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Yeah. Not telling you that. And I know everyone questions sources, but I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t trust the source with the two initials behind his name who is closely associated with the team.
If his initials are JL, you just told us anyway.
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Are those the only two options?
Yep, if you don't see him Saturday he gets the Old Yeller treatment.
As is tradition.
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Just get right for the NCAA Tournament. While I would prefer to win, I don't really care about the next three or BET.
By stating that you don’t really care about the next three (losses) and BET(loss)…….I wonder how far we would drop on the seed line….
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I have little concern over what seed MU ends getting. A healthy TK with a 3 seed is far more appealing to me than a 2 seed with a less than healthy TK. This team is built to compete with the top teams in the country and being healthy is top priority, imo. That said, I think they can beat and/or win the next three without TK.
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I have little concern over what seed MU ends getting. A healthy TK with a 3 seed is far more appealing to me than a 2 seed with a less than healthy TK. This team is built to compete with the top teams in the country and being healthy is top priority, imo. That said, I think they can beat and/or win the next three without TK.
I agree with what you said that can win the next three without Kolek. I believe that @creighton will be harder without TK than at home vs Uconn even though Uconn is better. I think the home crowd wills the team to a win regardless if Kolek is there or now. Winning at Xavier is not easy test but this is a top 5 team and should take care of business.
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By stating that you don’t really care about the next three (losses) and BET(loss)…….I wonder how far we would drop on the seed line….
My guess would be a 3 seed, or maybe a 4 if a couple of teams that are currently close pick up 2 or 3 big wins.
Then again, if the NCAA Selection Committee treats an injury to a key player the same as the College Football Playoff Committee, MU might get left out of the field completely.
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My guess would be a 3 seed, or maybe a 4 if a couple of teams that are currently close pick up 2 or 3 big wins.
Then again, if the NCAA Selection Committee treats an injury to a key player the same as the College Football Playoff Committee, MU might get left out of the field completely.
We are not going to be a 4 seed. It's not going to happen.
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Then again, if the NCAA Selection Committee treats an injury to a key player the same as the College Football Playoff Committee, MU might get left out of the field completely.
They do. Just ask Bob Huggins.
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My guess would be a 3 seed, or maybe a 4 if a couple of teams that are currently close pick up 2 or 3 big wins.
Then again, if the NCAA Selection Committee treats an injury to a key player the same as the College Football Playoff Committee, MU might get left out of the field completely.
Think our seed would be impacted considerably if MU loses the next 4 without Kolek. Committee may not believe he would be healthy for NCAA in that scenario. Major cause for concern if he doesn’t return before NCAA.
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If his initials are JL, you just told us anyway.
Don’t know a JL?
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Don’t know a JL?
Good!
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Think our seed would be impacted considerably if MU loses the next 4 without Kolek. Committee may not believe he would be healthy for NCAA in that scenario. Major cause for concern if he doesn’t return before NCAA.
Why are you in full on melt down mode right now? loooool.
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So MU wins it all from a 4 seed with a healthy Kolek.
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Just get right for the NCAA Tournament. While I would prefer to win, I don't really care about the next three or BET.
100% this 🙏🏻
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If it is “just a muscle strain,” it’s literally day to day. Any time away, is 100% a guess.
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Try not to have such oblique outlook.
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I’ll be at practice today and will let you know what I see
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Why are you in full on melt down mode right now? loooool.
I’m not?? Just saying that there is no “rest him for the tournament” option as some are alluding to. If he’s not playing, it means he is not healthy enough to play on that day. That’s a concern.
A better question would be why do you hate Stevie?
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More credible with D.D.S. after his/her name, aina?
good call. Shaka got TK in with a periodontist this afternoon hey. He’ll be fine.
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If there is a positive to take away from this, it's that Chase Ross has really been playing well the last couple of weeks. Sure, there would be a drop off from TK, but Ross can also produce, I believe.
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I’ll be at practice today and will let you know what I see
Any chance you are an oblique donor?
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Any chance you are an oblique donor?
No, it’s against NCAA rules
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Try not to have such oblique outlook.
Let's look at this at the right angle. He'll be fine.
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Let's look at this at the right angle. He'll be fine.
That's a cute pun.
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Let's look at this at the right angle. He'll be fine.
Or, you can look at the season from a wrecked angle.
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Let's look at this at the right angle. He'll be fine.
IDK, I think im to obtuse.
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Should sit Oso on saturday too and see how next years team will fair.
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I have little concern over what seed MU ends getting. A healthy TK with a 3 seed is far more appealing to me than a 2 seed with a less than healthy TK. This team is built to compete with the top teams in the country and being healthy is top priority, imo.
100% this.
This season is about winning the national title, and even a super-optimistic guy like me thinks we need a healthy Kolek (and Oso and Kam) to do that. Title or bust. March starts tomorrow; the NCAAT is all that matters.
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Yeah. Not telling you that. And I know everyone questions sources, but I wouldn’t say it if I didn’t trust the source with the two initials behind his name who is closely associated with the team.
I didn't realize George R. R. Martin was close with the team!
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I’ll be at practice today and will let you know what I see
No offense, but Hermie is the body language expert around these parts. Not sure you have that same gift.
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On a positive note, Tyler’s status as a legend was solidified when his eye gash made Art But Make It Sports last night.
https://x.com/ArtButSports/status/1763030973736689995?s=20
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Can't believe he settled on Blue Steel for that photo, I'd have gone a little more bold and tried Magnum
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On a positive note, Tyler’s status as a legend was solidified when his eye gash made Art But Make It Sports last night.
https://x.com/ArtButSports/status/1763030973736689995?s=20
If Ben had taught Kolek the Haka, he could have blended that with the blood streaming down his face for a greater effect. Missed opportunity to get even more national coverage.
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On a positive note, Tyler’s status as a legend was solidified when his eye gash made Art But Make It Sports last night.
https://x.com/ArtButSports/status/1763030973736689995?s=20
That he swished that 3 was one of the more incredible shots this season.
Still not sure why the ref standing 3 feet away from TK didn't stop play; we had possession.
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Same actor, more apt quote...
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood"...
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Well, some big east follower Jabroni joined Waddell on sleepers media for recap of the game
Said he’s heard nothing to indicate Kolek has a serious injury. So that clearly means he’s a ok.
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No offense, but Hermie is the body language expert around these parts. Not sure you have that same gift.
Oh, I know. I completely misread Quentin Grimes body language when we were on that visit with him.
I’ll just report what I see and you guys can interpret how you want
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🫣😳
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If there is a positive to take away from this, it's that Chase Ross has really been playing well the last couple of weeks. Sure, there would be a drop off from TK, but Ross can also produce, I believe.
With Sean Jones already out, losing Kolek would create a depth issue in addition to the talent and experience issue. In a big game Kolek would play 35 minutes or more and Ross would get his usual 20 or so. Ross would get additional minutes but Norman and Lowery would have to cover some of the rest.
And it’s not just covering minutes. Kolek sets the tone for the whole offense and there is no sugar coating how big his loss would be
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Kolek is a first team All American. Creighton will not give a Chico if he doesn't go. Training wheels come off for Tre and Zaide.
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With Sean Jones already out, losing Kolek would create a depth issue in addition to the talent and experience issue. In a big game Kolek would play 35 minutes or more and Ross would get his usual 20 or so. Ross would get additional minutes but Norman and Lowery would have to cover some of the rest.
And it’s not just covering minutes. Kolek sets the tone for the whole offense and there is no sugar coating how big his loss would be
Yep. Hope he gets well for the NCAA tournament. In the meantime, even more experience for the freshman.
Just get healthy TKo!
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Is this the oblique donor?
(https://marquettewire.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/20101211_MB_0611_MC.jpg)
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Well, some big east follower Jabroni joined Waddell on sleepers media for recap of the game
Said he’s heard nothing to indicate Kolek has a serious injury. So that clearly means he’s a ok.
Well if it was Dr. D Jabroni, MD we may be in business.
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That he swished that 3 was one of the more incredible shots this season.
Still not sure why the ref standing 3 feet away from TK didn't stop play; we had possession.
Or call the foul when he got knocked down on the shot. That whole sequence was nuts. Adds to the Kolek lore though.
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I love how sitting TK for the next several games ensures that he is healthy for the tourney…..when no one has an idea the extent of the injury.
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We R FF
I do not think anyone has said anything other than they would prefer if TK rested if not 100%. I hope he is healthy as hell and ready to go on Saturday. That said, if he is not 100%, I hope they seatbelt him to the bench.
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Or call the foul when he got knocked down on the shot. That whole sequence was nuts. Adds to the Kolek lore though.
Someone explain to me how that blatant cheap shot and clear foul wasn't called? And they did that on many of our jump shots. I would like to add a little muscle in the future just to take out guys like Oduro.
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🫣😳
What is this in response to?
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I hope he plays Saturday so we can get another "dumb and dangerous" sermon from
Cracked Sidewalks Paint Touches.
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We R FF
I do not think anyone has said anything other than they would prefer if TK rested if not 100%. I hope he is healthy as hell and ready to go on Saturday. That said, if he is not 100%, I hope they seatbelt him to the bench.
He may be ready to go Saturday…..he may not come back….no one knows.
But to say one would certainly accept losses in order for TK to return for the tourney is getting ahead of themselves. No one knows if two weeks of rest ensures a god damn thing.
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I hope he plays Saturday so we can get another "dumb and dangerous" sermon from Cracked Sidewalks.
I think you mean PT.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=56102.msg1010245#msg1010245
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I love how sitting TK for the next several games ensures that he is healthy for the tourney…..when no one has an idea the extent of the injury.
Because that's how long it takes for the donated torso to graft. Everyone knows this.
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Someone explain to me how that blatant cheap shot and clear foul wasn't called? And they did that on many of our jump shots. I would like to add a little muscle in the future just to take out guys like Oduro.
*Caedin Hamilton has entered the chat*
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Time for Magic Norman
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Here’s the Kolek pass that produces clear discomfort and - soon after - leads to his exit from the game for good.
https://youtu.be/Cb_ACCRdW7M?feature=shared
Looks like the actual injury came on a pass with about 16-17 minutes left. He checked back in for 40 seconds, and this was his response to his first pass. That isn't a good reaction at all to trying to play through it. Seems like more to it than just, "We're up 30, I'll take it easy."
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Some guy on Twitter claiming Kolek is out 4 weeks because he knows a student manager, so I fully expect him playing on Saturday 😅.
If that has any bit of truth to it though, he may be done for the year because 4 weeks from today is the start of the Sweet 16 and it would be tough to survive the 1st weekend without him.
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Some guy on Twitter claiming Kolek is out 4 weeks because he knows a student manager, so I fully expect him playing on Saturday 😅.
If that has any bit of truth to it though, he may be done for the year because 4 weeks from today is the start of the Sweet 16 and it would be tough to survive the 1st weekend without him.
He won’t play again until the second weekend of the tournament. Definitely out the rest of the Big East season and tournament
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Looks like the actual injury came on a pass with about 16-17 minutes left. He checked back in for 40 seconds, and this was his response to his first pass. That isn't a good reaction at all to trying to play through it. Seems like more to it than just, "We're up 30, I'll take it easy."
It's believed he first felt something on a baseline cross-court pass to Kam earlier in the half. The subsequent pass to Oso led to a much more pronounced wince than the drive and dish to Jones.
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I saw him pass out at 31 Flavors Tuesday night and grab his side. He may have entered the game with the injury. I guess it's pretty serious.
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I saw him pass out at 31 Flavors Tuesday night and grab his side. He may have entered the game with the injury. I guess it's pretty serious.
Lactose intolerant?
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On a positive note, Tyler’s status as a legend was solidified when his eye gash made Art But Make It Sports last night.
https://x.com/ArtButSports/status/1763030973736689995?s=20
they usually call that foul when someone blows on you, but not when they send you into the cheap seats??
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I think you mean PT.
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=56102.msg1010245#msg1010245
D'oh. You're right. Fixed.
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He won’t play again until the second weekend of the tournament. Definitely out the rest of the Big East season and tournament
This.
Hope for second game if ncaa tourney.
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He won’t play again until the second weekend of the tournament. Definitely out the rest of the Big East season and tournament
This is certainly a blue check mark.
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This.
Hope for second game if ncaa tourney.
I'm sure we'll find out in about 20 minutes during the Shaka Smart show.
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This.
Hope for second game if ncaa tourney.
And if that turns out to be completely wrong?
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This.
Hope for second game if ncaa tourney.
He wasn’t dressed for practice. Was getting treatment the entire time. Kam was running a lot of set plays from the point
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And if that turns out to be completely wrong?
Then he’s out longer.
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Then he’s out longer.
You may be totally right. You may be totally wrong...but whatever the diagnosis is, I find it hard to believe TK would sit out of the NCAA Tournament.
His legs are healthy, his arms are healthy, and you know hes gonna wanna play.
I guess we will see!
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Then he’s out longer.
::)
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Here’s the Kolek pass that produces clear discomfort and - soon after - leads to his exit from the game for good.
https://youtu.be/Cb_ACCRdW7M?feature=shared
This pass in the video was around 12:40 remaining…..
At 16:04 is the twisting pass to Kam in the corner when TK grabs his side for the first time…
TK can be seen around 15:25 holding his side several times during a dead ball.
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I'm sure we'll find out in about 20 minutes during the Shaka Smart show.
I don't expect anything but vague answers until at least the Creighton game. Even then I'm sure he's game to game.
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I can only speak for myself, but I sincerely hope that TK is able to write his own MU legacy over the upcoming weeks. What he has done for the program is beyond belief, imo. To be honest, while I would be disappointed as a fan if he was unable to play for a month, I would be far more disappointed for TK. This kid has made MU basketball become the place to be for other players and his legacy is cast in stone to me.
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You may be totally right. You may be totally wrong...but whatever the diagnosis is, I find it hard to believe TK would sit out of the NCAA Tournament.
His legs are healthy, his arms are healthy, and you know hes gonna wanna play.
I guess we will see!
I mean I hope I’m 100% wrong. But it’s what I’ve heard.
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I can only speak for myself, but I sincerely hope that TK is able to write his own MU legacy over the upcoming weeks. What he has done for the program is beyond belief, imo. To be honest, while I would be disappointed as a fan if he was unable to play for a month, I would be far more disappointed for TK. This kid has made MU basketball become the place to be for other players and his legacy is cast in stone to me.
This.
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I mean I hope I’m 100% wrong. But it’s what I’ve heard.
I'm not denying that or saying what you heard is wrong.
I'm just saying...if he is indeed out for a bit, once we get to the NCAA Tournament I find it hard to believe he'd sit out.
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It’s depressing to think that Kolek might be joining Travis Diener and Dominic James as MU legends who won’t be able to play on their Senior Days.
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I can only speak for myself, but I sincerely hope that TK is able to write his own MU legacy over the upcoming weeks. What he has done for the program is beyond belief, imo. To be honest, while I would be disappointed as a fan if he was unable to play for a month, I would be far more disappointed for TK. This kid has made MU basketball become the place to be for other players and his legacy is cast in stone to me.
If this ends up being the case, you wonder if the disappointment would be enough to bring him back for one more year. Would be a really tough note to end on.
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On Twitter, D. Bowels said Kolek is fully expected to play Saturday. He did have a few things right in the past, so who really knows what to believe.
Personally, all I want is Kolek to be healthy leading into the tourney. Would prefer if we stay with the 2 or 3 seed in the BET, but eyes are set on getting past the first round.
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But to say one would certainly accept losses in order for TK to return for the tourney is getting ahead of themselves. No one knows if two weeks of rest ensures a god damn thing.
Can't speak for others, but all Goose and I have said is that if sitting out the next 2+ weeks helps Kolek heal properly so he come back healthy enough to play in the NCAAT, that's all we'd want.
Neither of us said sitting out would for sure let him play in the NCAAT because, as you said, nobody knows yet.
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Sitting out 2 weeks may have no absolutely no bearing on an injury which we have very little insight until an hour ago…….which still is very little.
Just making an observation that scoopers willing to mentally sacrifice the final 4 (maybe more) games SO that TK will be 100% healthy for what we really want is umm meaningless and self serving at best.
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Sitting out 2 weeks may have no absolutely no bearing on an injury which we have very little insight until an hour ago…….which still is very little.
Just making an observation that scoopers willing to mentally sacrifice the final 4 (maybe more) games SO that TK will be 100% healthy for what we really want is umm meaningless and self serving at best.
Actually I think what people are saying is that TK not playing the next couple of weeks is fine IF it helps him recover for the tournament.
Of course if he plays Saturday, no one is going to be upset about it.
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We are FF
Huh?
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Just about everything Scoopers say is meaningless, WRFF, including what I'm saying here and what you just said.
We have no control over who wins or loses games, who Shaka should or shouldn't play, how long injuries take to heal, etc.
Everything on here is either reaction to something that happened or speculation about something that might happen. Welcome to sports fan boards!
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We are FF
Huh?
I will be happy to go 0-4 (meaningless) to have TK back when it really matters…….which we have no idea if that is the case.
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I will be happy to win the rest of our games, culminating in a national title.
Saying that is much more meaningful.
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Didn’t know the injury will be complete and finished only once the tournament starts.
Thats the apparent timeline for those who know nothing about it. Seems silly….and meaningless.
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Didn’t know the injury will be complete and finished only once the tournament starts.
Thats the apparent timeline for those who know nothing about it. Seems silly….and meaningless.
“for those who know nothing about it”
You mean every single one of us?
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Didn’t know the injury will be complete and finished only once the tournament starts.
Thats the apparent timeline for those who know nothing about it. Seems silly….and meaningless.
You just cant grasp what people are actually saying, its pretty impressive.
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“for those who know nothing about it”
You mean every single one of us?
Yes
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Honestly if he’s good to go on April 6th that’s all that really matters.
I’m certain he will be.
5 weeks to judge.
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Doctors have told him best idea is to rest. So Tyler agreed and will sit on the bench.
#FreshLegs
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He won’t play again until the second weekend of the tournament. Definitely out the rest of the Big East season and tournament
This would be a kick in the nuts. I can only imagine how the poor kid would feel
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This would be a kick in the nuts. I can only imagine how the poor kid would feel
Did someone say Brad Davison?
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Did someone say Brad Davison?
Quiet! Our opponents might read this and then know what our strategy is without Kolek on the court.