I have a buddy at the game that said it appears Chase is in a sling.
Time for some Freshman to step up into a limited role and the upperclassmen to take on more minutes. Time to grow up!
Yeah i thought it was a pretty clear shoulder separation live.
Is that an arm boot?
Is there a difference between a dislocation and a separation?
Anyone know the estimated recovery time for something like that?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 06, 2024, 11:59:18 AM
Is there a difference between a dislocation and a separation?
Anyone know the estimated recovery time for something like that?
Separation is anywhere from 2 to 12 weeks depending on severity.
For an athlete like Chase, 2 weeks seems reasonable assuming no structural damage/tears.
Dislocation seems to be more likely what happened here though based on where he was grasping the shoulder near the bicep. Similar timeline depending on severity.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 06, 2024, 11:59:18 AM
Is there a difference between a dislocation and a separation?
Anyone know the estimated recovery time for something like that?
Going to need surgery eventually for a likely torn labrum, may try to play through it the rest of the year, but it will be likely continue to dislocate periodically.
depends on severity I have done it twice in my youth and continued sports with no surgery ever.
Ask Walter Downing
A separation it was not.
Shaka said in the post-game he thought it pop out and popped right back in.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 06, 2024, 02:52:42 PM
Shaka said in the post-game he thought it pop out and popped right back in.
For a shoulder to dislocate, the anatomy is almost always compromised in some way to allow the dislocation. I would be very surprised if he didn't tear his labrum and require surgery now or after the season.
Hope Chase recovers fine.
Hope it's not his beer drinkin arm
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 06, 2024, 02:52:42 PM
Shaka said in the post-game he thought it pop out and popped right back in.
I am not a doctor but I have dislocated my shoulder in football. The faster the shoulder goes back in the better you are but if it did pop out that is a dislocation. Chase will know what it was because the ligaments feel like elastic bands as they are stretched. When you or someone else pops it back in you can feel the ball joint grinding back over the socket as it snaps back into place. There can be bone chips as a result which typically are removed. I did not have chips but even so the recovery process was slow and difficult. The risk of repeated dislocations does increase. Surgery may be the best option, particularly for basketball and diving.
What is important is that Chase gets the best treatment possible and that he is not rushed back to playing too early. I wish him God speed and the hope he has a full recovery.
Quote from: panda on January 06, 2024, 06:50:36 PM
Hope it's not his beer drinkin arm
We can only pray.
But it was his shooting arm, for what that's worth :-\
When has Scoop's medical staff been right about anything in this message board's history?
According to these same experts, Kolek should only now be returning from his leg injury (does anyone remember that?).
Their prediction about injuries makes the troll who shorted Apple in 2016 look like a genius.
#Stranger
Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 07, 2024, 03:22:26 PM
When has Scoop's medical staff been right about anything in this message board's history?
According to these same experts, Kolek should only now be returning from his leg injury (does anyone remember that?).
Their prediction about injuries makes the troll who shorted Apple in 2016 look like a genius.
Who said Kolek would be out for 2 months with an ankle sprain? I do not remember that, no.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 07, 2024, 04:20:35 PM
Who said Kolek would be out for 2 months with an ankle sprain? I do not remember that, no.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on November 11, 2023, 10:11:37 AM
Ankles are just a wait and see. All depends on the level of turn and depth of swelling. Each person responds differently. Could be 8 weeks, could be back and ready by Tuesday. Whatever it is, Sean Jones and Chase Ross have showed that this team will be a tough out whatever happens with Kolek. Hopefully he can play Tuesday, but definitely hope this doesn't affect his availability in Hawaii.
Quote from: Newsdreams on November 11, 2023, 12:12:31 PM
My source says out for the year.
GE03 said "it could be 8 weeks" speaking about an ankle injury in general.
Newsie was clearly kidding.
0 fer 2.
Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 07, 2024, 03:22:26 PM
Their prediction about injuries makes the troll who shorted Apple in 2016 look like a genius.
Ya think? The Apple shorter lost a ton of money.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 06, 2024, 12:00:39 PM
Separation is anywhere from 2 to 12 weeks depending on severity.
For an athlete like Chase, 2 weeks seems reasonable assuming no structural damage/tears.
Dislocation seems to be more likely what happened here though based on where he was grasping the shoulder near the bicep. Similar timeline depending on severity.
Apparently, the Scoop medical staff still has credibility.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 06, 2024, 12:00:39 PM
Separation is anywhere from 2 to 12 weeks depending on severity.
For an athlete like Chase, 2 weeks seems reasonable assuming no structural damage/tears.
Dislocation seems to be more likely what happened here though based on where he was grasping the shoulder near the bicep. Similar timeline depending on severity.
Or his shoulder was out of his socket...
Quote from: panda on January 07, 2024, 07:25:06 PM
Or his shoulder was out of his socket...
That's..uuhhh..what a dislocation is.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 07, 2024, 07:39:03 PM
That's..uuhhh..what a dislocation is.
"Dislocation seems to be more likely"
Uh no duh - his shoulder was out of its socket.
Also - doesn't matter if you're an athlete or not. Soft tissue damage is inevitable from dislocation.
Quote from: panda on January 07, 2024, 07:46:53 PM
"Dislocation seems to be more likely"
Uh no duh - his shoulder was out of its socket.
Also - doesn't matter if you're an athlete or not. Soft tissue damage is inevitable from dislocation.
I said that at halftime before we knew what happened. We didn't know it was out of socket until after the game.
I suspected dislocation based on how he was holding his arm.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 07, 2024, 07:53:34 PM
I said that at halftime before we knew what happened. We didn't know it was out of socket until after the game.
I suspected dislocation based on how he was holding his arm.
Or that his shoulder was clearly out of his socket...
The original impetus for this interaction was to tell people to please do not take medical advice from this guy. If you're curious, just google it yourself because that's all he's doing.
He's clearly out from between one day and the rest of the season. We'll have to wait and see the severity. Duh.
See, this is easy. I could be a meteorologist too.
I'm in the same boat as Chase. Sports injury.
I have a severe intercostal muscle sprain (torn rib meat). Happened a week and a half ago - I had my Pickleball league Tuesday and went. Reality gutsy effort, but a lot of pain. Did ice therapy for a couple days, then moved to heat. Up until yesterday, incredible pain (when coughing, sneezing, laughing or twisting/moving just right). Yesterday and today, it's feeling better.
Coughing is still a b, but I'm Questionsble for tomorrow (fully plan to suit up and give it a go). Very worried I'll aggravate things and have a medical setback, but there are only two weeks of the league left.
I want to join another league that starts a week from Thursday (higher competition level), but am in a holding pattern to see how my body responds to tomorrow night.
#StandWithChase #Athletes #Warriors
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 08, 2024, 04:08:00 PM
I'm in the same boat as Chase. Sports injury.
I have a severe intercostal muscle sprain (torn rib meat). Happened a week and a half ago - I had my Pickleball league Tuesday and went. Reality gutsy effort, but a lot of pain. Did ice therapy for a couple days, then moved to heat. Up until yesterday, incredible pain (when coughing, sneezing, laughing or twisting/moving just right). Yesterday and today, it's feeling better.
Coughing is still a b, but I'm Questionsble for tomorrow (fully plan to suit up and give it a go). Very worried I'll aggravate things and have a medical setback, but there are only two weeks of the league left.
I want to join another league that starts a week from Thursday (higher competition level), but am in a holding pattern to see how my body responds to tomorrow night.
#StandWithChase #Athletes #Warriors
I blame Truly
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 08, 2024, 04:08:00 PM
I'm in the same boat as Chase. Sports injury.
I have a severe intercostal muscle sprain (torn rib meat). Happened a week and a half ago - I had my Pickleball league Tuesday and went. Reality gutsy effort, but a lot of pain. Did ice therapy for a couple days, then moved to heat. Up until yesterday, incredible pain (when coughing, sneezing, laughing or twisting/moving just right). Yesterday and today, it's feeling better.
Coughing is still a b, but I'm Questionsble for tomorrow (fully plan to suit up and give it a go). Very worried I'll aggravate things and have a medical setback, but there are only two weeks of the league left.
I want to join another league that starts a week from Thursday (higher competition level), but am in a holding pattern to see how my body responds to tomorrow night.
#StandWithChase #Athletes #Warriors
You're really chasing the dragon here, JB. Careful.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 08, 2024, 04:08:00 PM
I'm in the same boat as Chase. Sports injury.
I have a severe intercostal muscle sprain (torn rib meat). Happened a week and a half ago - I had my Pickleball league Tuesday and went. Reality gutsy effort, but a lot of pain. Did ice therapy for a couple days, then moved to heat. Up until yesterday, incredible pain (when coughing, sneezing, laughing or twisting/moving just right). Yesterday and today, it's feeling better.
Coughing is still a b, but I'm Questionsble for tomorrow (fully plan to suit up and give it a go). Very worried I'll aggravate things and have a medical setback, but there are only two weeks of the league left.
I want to join another league that starts a week from Thursday (higher competition level), but am in a holding pattern to see how my body responds to tomorrow night.
#StandWithChase #Athletes #Warriors
How is getting off the Crapper?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 08, 2024, 05:32:24 PM
How is getting off the Crapper?
I broke some ribs playing basketball last year. Getting off the toilet was never an issue for me. Was able to continue playing basketball without a ton of issue. Getting into and out of bed was awful, blowing my nose, laughing, coughing, sneezing weren't fun. But putting on socks was one of the most painful things I'd ever felt.
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on January 07, 2024, 07:53:34 PM
I said that at halftime before we knew what happened. We didn't know it was out of socket until after the game.
I suspected dislocation based on how he was holding his arm.
Dislocation was evident with the initial replay, i.e. loss of shoulder contour and visible acromion process, this would not be seen with an AC joint separation. Like Panda said, it's difficult to dislocate the shoulder without additional soft tissue injury. I'm sure the MRI that's been done identified the extent of the injury.