1. How about Zaide guarding Abmas? Give Abmas his due. Hellacious scorer.
2. Chase Ross finally played like a dude. When Shaka puts you back in with two fouls in the first half....
3. Go 1-9, the offense stinks. Start making a few, everything changes.
4. 12 minute runs are fun. 33-8 ish. I am sure someone will correct me.
5. The defense on those not named Abmas was really good, once the transition game was slowed.
6. Rebounding was good. Stevie set the tone early.
7. TKo remembered he is a first team AA and a team leader. Showed off for the family in town for the game.
8. It wasn't perfect early. And then it was everything an MU Fan could ask for.
9. MU showed themselves to be mentally tough, bouncing back from a disappointing loss.
10. Beat ND.
Awesome performance. Great effort on the boards. If Jop and Gold can play like that nightly we'll be in good shape.
Didn't need turnovers to get stops today.
Heading up for the game Saturday. Will be disappointed if we don't win by 40.
#1 totally changed the flow of the game.
Solid win although Tex has some issues. Shout out to Jop who played well. Tyko usurped the game at the end of the 1H.
Destroy Notre Dame on Saturday
Texas might stink
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 06, 2023, 08:56:18 PM
Texas might stink
They'll be fine when they get Disu back.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on December 06, 2023, 08:58:30 PM
They'll be fine when they get Disu back.
Easily a 22 pt difference maker according to Raff
They should be good. Absmas and Hunter should make up a good backcourt. Shedrick and Disu should make up a good front court. And they have a couple athletes on the wing.
But they don't seem very well coached.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 06, 2023, 08:56:18 PM
Texas might stink
It's possible. Remember they needed a last sec shot to be L'Ville. Disu will help.
This is how it's done!
Or.... MU got on an angry run and took out their Saturday frustrations. Texas will be fine.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 06, 2023, 08:56:18 PM
Texas might stink
Wisconsin fans might've thought the same on Saturday.
Marquette, and TyKo in particular, were men on a mission.
When Tyler is in that zone the entire team feeds off of it.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on December 06, 2023, 08:55:59 PM
#1 totally changed the flow of the game.
It was impressive. Easy athleticism. Will be fun to watch develop.
Quote from: DoctorV on December 06, 2023, 09:05:26 PM
Wisconsin fans might've thought the same on Saturday.
Marquette, and TyKo in particular, were men on a mission.
When Tyler is in that zone the entire team feeds off of it.
That was the Tyler we needed on Saturday.
Always nice to beat that entitled ass fan base.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on December 06, 2023, 09:12:57 PM
That was the Tyler we needed on Saturday.
Sure but we got him today, and hopefully again and again this season.
Losses to Wisconsin suck ass, but over the last 2 games it's an overall positive in the computers, and the computers matter in March.
Low deflections. Hiroshima
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 06, 2023, 09:18:18 PM
Low deflections. Hiroshima
Shaka will punish accordingly
Amidst all the enjoyment, a downer from SJ22. Reverted to driving into the tall trees.
Hope he'll bounce back.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 06, 2023, 09:21:56 PM
Amidst all the enjoyment, a downer from SJ22. Reverted to driving into the tall trees.
Hope he'll bounce back.
Rough game for sure. We need the Kansas JTY.
Quote from: tower912 on December 06, 2023, 08:51:48 PM
10. BeatKick the s**t out of ND.
FIFY. Each time we play ND, Tower, I am reminded of our suffering. No mercy. None.
Quote from: mug644 on December 06, 2023, 09:28:39 PM
FIFY. Each time we play ND, Tower, I am reminded of our suffering. No mercy. None.
Ha! What will the opening line on that game be?
Really happy to see Ross effective, active and under control. We will need him this season to get where we want to go.
Loved the effort pretty much all night, especially after first Zaide and then Stevie put the clamps on Abmas.
Oso was the best MU player for awhile but then obviously TK took over. He is so much fun to watch. Game was unofficially over when he hit that halftime dagger from Rowseyland.
Nice to see a couple splash through for Jop.
Was surprised to see Terry stick with his starters all the way to the end. Weird.
It's sad how long I've been eyeing the ND game on the schedule.
Love Shaka mixing in Lowery. He's going to be a good player.
Kolek is an s-tier college player.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 06, 2023, 08:55:25 PM
Heading up for the game Saturday. Will be disappointed if we don't win by 40.
Ditto! Really psyched for the slaughter. Fiserv's gonna be rockin'.
Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2023, 09:41:22 PM
Ditto! Really psyched for the slaughter. Fiserv's gonna be rockin'.
Should be a joke of a game. They are bad. Also a drunk Saturday night sell out crowd. Should laugh em out the gym. Sounds fun wish I could go
I'm going to get so drunk on Saturday. Should be a fun one.
MU will KILL ND ... won't even be a game ...
Disappointed they let Texas close the gap at the end. Need to learn to finish.
Incredible bounce back from an extremely poor performance last Saturday.
High effort on defense completely put a stranglehold on Texas' shot making. If not for abmas, we win by 50. They had no business being on the same floor as us tongiht.
Quote from: DoctorV on December 06, 2023, 09:05:26 PM
Wisconsin fans might've thought the same on Saturday.
Marquette, and TyKo in particular, were men on a mission.
When Tyler is in that zone the entire team feeds off of it.
For anyone that's played a lot of ball, it was easy to see in the first 10 seconds what Tyler was gonna do all night. Got the tip, dribbled up and buried a '3'.
He ain't doing that unless his shot was golden in warmups.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 06, 2023, 09:40:55 PM
Love Shaka mixing in Lowery. He's going to be a good player.
Kolek is an s-tier college player.
Lowery was a difference maker tonight on the defensive end!! Those were some important minutes in the first half.
Also shocked Texas is ranked so high. They absolutely stink. The second half defensive effort was an abomination. You could drive a Mack truck into the lane.
Disu coming back will help, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the bubble this year.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on December 06, 2023, 08:55:59 PM
#1 totally changed the flow of the game.
Right on. Zaide shut Abams down. Great call by Shaka to put Zaide and his length/athleticism on Abams. I think we will continue to see Zaide emerge as the season moves forward.
Was great to see Joplin play with more effort on the D-boards and to see him make a couple of 3s.
Quote from: panda on December 06, 2023, 10:11:50 PM
Also shocked Texas is ranked so high. They absolutely stink. The second half defensive effort was an abomination. You could drive a Mack truck into the lane.
Disu coming back will help, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them on the bubble this year.
Let's just take a second here...
A team we think will most likely be on the bubble "stinks".
We were on or below the bubble like 7 of the 8 seasons pre-Shaka.
Excellent win for our guys tonight. Delighted that they got back in the saddle and rounded up The Longhorns.
TyKo played with a chip on his shoulder
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 06, 2023, 09:34:53 PM
Ha! What will the opening line on that game be?
~20pt favorites, it would seem right now.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 06, 2023, 09:21:56 PM
Amidst all the enjoyment, a downer from SJ22. Reverted to driving into the tall trees.
Hope he'll bounce back.
Teams have adjusted to this year's version. Time for him to make his countermove. Hitting 3's would help.
Looking at you, too, Stevie.
Quote from: TheREALwrk on December 07, 2023, 07:00:36 AM
~20pt favorites, it would seem right now.
21-point KenPom favorites
Last night, on two occasions, once for Ross and once for Norman, MU actually ran a set designed to get a drive to the rack. Ross made his, Norman got his blocked with authority. It caught my eye for two reasons. First, MU actually ran a play. Second, it was similar to a set that Wojo used to get lay ups for JjJ and Haanif (when he didn't flinch)
Loved this effort tonight. Loved seeing the team hit 46.7% from behind the arc. Regression toward the mean. I'm still hopeful Stevie and Sean will individually regress toward the mean (instead of just regressing). Jop had a couple of drives where he seemed to have a bit more confidence. Perhaps I'm misremembering, but I seem to recall that in years past Jop seemed more confident driving to the hoop. This year he seems to start the drive and then pull up about 6-8 feet out and be tentative. I thought last night he had a couple drives where he finished strong. A positive development. Kolek was absolutely fantastic. Glad to see the Warriors lay a whoopin' on the Longhorns for Shaka -- even if he'd say he doesn't care.
Also, one small item of credit where due - I loved the fight in that Weaver kid when he took an elbow to the mouth, then proceeded to rip the ball away from TyKo and go coast-to-coast for a slam.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on December 07, 2023, 07:54:54 AM
Loved this effort tonight. Loved seeing the team hit 46.7% from behind the arc. Regression toward the mean. I'm still hopeful Stevie and Sean will individually regress toward the mean (instead of just regressing). Jop had a couple of drives where he seemed to have a bit more confidence. Perhaps I'm misremembering, but I seem to recall that in years past Jop seemed more confident driving to the hoop. This year he seems to start the drive and then pull up about 6-8 feet out and be tentative. I thought last night he had a couple drives where he finished strong. A positive development. Kolek was absolutely fantastic. Glad to see the Warriors lay a whoopin' on the Longhorns for Shaka -- even if he'd say he doesn't care.
Also, one small item of credit where due - I loved the fight in that Weaver kid when he took an elbow to the mouth, then proceeded to rip the ball away from TyKo and go coast-to-coast for a slam.
I liked seeing Brown, Lucas, Omalley, and Riley seeing playing time against starters for the #12 team.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on December 07, 2023, 07:54:54 AM
Perhaps I'm misremembering, but I seem to recall that in years past Jop seemed more confident driving to the hoop. This year he seems to start the drive and then pull up about 6-8 feet out and be tentative.
Trying to be more like Omax. Ha. That was one thing that frustrated me about Omax. Beating his man off the dribble, getting INto the lane, and NOT FINISHING.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on December 07, 2023, 07:54:54 AM
Also, one small item of credit where due - I loved the fight in that Weaver kid when he took an elbow to the mouth, then proceeded to rip the ball away from TyKo and go coast-to-coast for a slam.
Good call. I was pretty damn impressed by Weaver - high-energy guy who played with an edge.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 06, 2023, 09:21:56 PM
Amidst all the enjoyment, a downer from SJ22. Reverted to driving into the tall trees.
Hope he'll bounce back.
Sean Jones was the one player who did not have a good game last night. He is now 2 for 20 from three at a 10% rate and his last made three was during the UCLA game. He only played eight minutes and Lowery got more playing time than him in a blowout. A lot of posters believe he is the heir to point guard after Kolek leaves, but at this pace, that probably won't be an option. Tre Norman is the probable candidate. Yes, he is very quick, but also very agressive on defense resulting in numerous reach in fouls. You cannot have a 5ft 9 point guard that can't hit the side of a barn at this rate, as your guy. Look at Abmas from Texas, who is a few inches taller and is shooting at a 40% rate from three. There are many other point guards for comparison purposes, but let's hope Sean Jones can turn it around soon. The team will need his improvement.
He may have his chance against ND this weekend against Markus Burton, ND leading scorer and a very quick guard. But, Shaka did not utilize Sean against Abmas last night, it was others and he brought in Lowery with five minutes to go in first half to disrupt Abmas. I thought Sean would go up against him with his quickness, but Shaka made the move and it worked. Hoping for a bounce back game or games for Sean in next couple of weeks.
Quote from: BM1090 on December 06, 2023, 09:47:14 PM
I'm going to get so drunk on Saturday. Should be a fun one.
Bring your checkbook...actually bring your credit card, it's only plastic.
I've found my Fiserv drink and it's ridiculous. A double tequila or double vodka + soda. Runs you $22 + tip. I can make those last a half and it's so much better for your soul than drinking A-B products.
The hitch is they won't serve you two at a time so if my wife wants one, we have to buy seperately. Yes, seriously they won't sell you two doubles. They won't even sell you 1 double and 1 beer. It really is the worst arena in America.
#BringBackTheBC
Nah, the real crime is selling Coke instead of Pepsi.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
Nah, the real crime is selling Coke instead of Pepsi.
Take that back!
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
Nah, the real crime is selling Coke instead of Pepsi.
I grew up in a Pepsi house bc of business and I honestly thought i was the only Pepsi fan in Ameria. My wife looks at me like I'm a lepar when I ask for it in public.
We agree.
Quote from: The Lens on December 07, 2023, 08:44:45 AM
I grew up in a Pepsi house bc of business and I honestly thought i was the only Pepsi fan in Ameria. My wife looks at me like I'm a lepar when I ask for it in public.
Pepsi's unofficial slogan, repeated countless times every day in restaurants across the country: "Is Pepsi OK?"
Quote from: StillAWarrior on December 07, 2023, 08:49:14 AM
Pepsi's unofficial slogan, repeated countless times every day in restaurants across the country: "Is Pepsi OK?"
Someone needs to start a poll:
Pepsi
Coke
I save my carbs for beer
The Whisky fiasco was inexcusable and will haunt us all year. MU/Tyler bounced back well last night. Do think Texas is overrated. They did not look that good. These early season rankings do not mean too much. Lets see how we do 2/3 of the way through our conference gauntlet. One thing for sure though: this team is good but will go as far as Kolek can take them, so pray he remains healthy.
The Wisconsin loss will not "haunt us all year."
Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2023, 08:14:28 AM
Good call. I was pretty damn impressed by Weaver - high-energy guy who played with an edge.
Agree...his athleticsim jumped out at me quickly when he entered the game. NBA level athleticism. He'll be a damn good player, though i suspect he's an average shooter at best.
Quote from: The Lens on December 07, 2023, 08:44:45 AM
I grew up in a Pepsi house bc of business and I honestly thought i was the only Pepsi fan in Ameria. My wife looks at me like I'm a lepar when I ask for it in public.
I grew up in a Coca Cola house, my grandfather was one of the original bottlers, and my dad worked for Coke until I started high school. I remember my dad bringing home the first Diet Coke can or the first New Coke Can, doing the Pepsi Challenge at Woodfield Mall, my brother and I used to record ourselves singing "Coke Is It" or "I'd Like To Buy The World A Coke" and my favorite commercial of all time is the Mean Joe Greene Coke commercial. Never had a Pepsi before college, can't stand the stuff.
As an investor, I prefer Pepsi (PEP) to Coca-Cola (KO) because of Pepsi's snack division. Frito-Lay kills it, and Coke has nothing like it.
I'm not a big soda drinker, but I enjoyed the Coke Zeros I got on my last couple of flights.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 07, 2023, 08:56:09 AM
The Whisky fiasco was inexcusable and will haunt us all year. MU/Tyler bounced back well last night. Do think Texas is overrated. They did not look that good. These early season rankings do not mean too much. Lets see how we do 2/3 of the way through our conference gauntlet. One thing for sure though: this team is good but will go as far as Kolek can take them, so pray he remains healthy.
I think that's a good point, Wilbur. The loss to Wisconsin is inexcusable and will haunt this team all year.
Last night was a perfect example of how it will haunt them. They were lethargic and let Texas score almost 30 points in the first half. That doesn't happen without the scars of the Badger game. You could see the team played afraid and Shaka coached scared.
The inexcusable part is true, too. Going on the road and losing to a veteran team that looks like it might contend for a Big Ten title is the kind of stuff bad programs do.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 06, 2023, 10:27:46 PM
Let's just take a second here...
A team we think will most likely be on the bubble "stinks".
We were on or below the bubble like 7 of the 8 seasons pre-Shaka.
And ? You wanted Wojo fired 7 of those 8 seasons for stinking so what's your point.
Just basking.
Ruined his entire life, so let him enjoy being reborn.
Just don't ever talk about a game that isn't the next game, because fans famously cause losses when we do that.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 07, 2023, 08:57:04 AM
The Wisconsin loss will not "haunt us all year."
Agree to disagree. Losing to those turds is always a nightmare. How about there is no excuse to lose to those pikers. None. Nada.
Quote from: Pakuni on December 06, 2023, 10:00:59 PM
Disappointed they let Texas close the gap at the end. Need to learn to finish.
They had mostly scrubs playing last 3 minutes.
Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2023, 09:08:07 AM
Ruined his entire life, so let him enjoy being reborn.
Just don't ever talk about a game that isn't the next game, because fans famously cause losses when we do that.
Marquette basketball life - yes!
You don't believe in jynxes?
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 07, 2023, 08:59:32 AM
I grew up in a Coca Cola house, my grandfather was one of the original bottlers, and my dad worked for Coke until I started high school. I remember my dad bringing home the first Diet Coke can or the first New Coke Can, doing the Pepsi Challenge at Woodfield Mall, my brother and I used to record ourselves singing "Coke Is It" or "I'd Like To Buy The World A Coke" and my favorite commercial of all time is the Mean Joe Greene Coke commercial. Never had a Pepsi before college, can't stand the stuff.
There was a missionary telling the sad story of his fellow missionary's demise:
I was hiding in the brush when my colleague was captured. After they roasted him they started eating him from his feet up to his thing, then they drank a case of Fresca, then they continued from his head down to his thing and downed the second case of Fresca.
Then someone asked, why didn't they eat his thing?
He replied, things go better with coke.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 07, 2023, 09:12:36 AM
They had mostly scrubs playing last 3 minutes.
UT only played 8. In the last minute, their points were scored by Abmas. Shedrick, and Mitchell-3 starters
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 07, 2023, 08:57:04 AM
The Wisconsin loss will not "haunt us all year."
Well, it certainly did last year...oh wait...it didn't.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
Nah, the real crime is selling Coke instead of Pepsi.
this is f*cked up.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 07, 2023, 09:11:00 AM
Agree to disagree. Losing to those turds is always a nightmare. How about there is no excuse to lose to those pikers. None. Nada.
UW is up to 11 in KenPom and has a Projected record of 22-9 and 14-6 in the Big Ten.
It was a road loss in an "A" game that is really going to end up a complete nuetral result for us. Claiming otherwise just highlights your ignorance.
Only disappointing thing about last night was Zaide's 1 rebound in 10 minutes. I was told he had the elite athleticism that Jop lacks that is a requisite to compete at this level of basketball. Alas, maybe playing against Southern makes you look like a better rebounder than when you're playing the big boys.
(He did do a good job defensively on Absmas. He looked in over his head offensively.)
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
Nah, the real crime is selling Coke instead of Pepsi.
The hell?
He chased Abmas through a bunch of screens and guarded out to 25 feet. He's not gonna get many rebounds unless they're long rebounds.
His blk% sucked, too. Time to cut him.
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 07, 2023, 10:24:15 AM
He chased Abmas through a bunch of screens and guarded out to 25 feet. He's not gonna get many rebounds unless they're long rebounds.
This is true. His defense was terrific. He will be a good one!
Quote from: withoutbias on December 07, 2023, 10:05:36 AM
Only disappointing thing about last night was Zaide's 1 rebound in 10 minutes. I was told he had the elite athleticism that Jop lacks that is a requisite to compete at this level of basketball. Alas, maybe playing against Southern makes you look like a better rebounder than when you're playing the big boys.
(He did do a good job defensively on Absmas. He looked in over his head offensively.)
Not concerned with his lack of rebounds. When he was in he was charged with face-guarding Absmas and it was effective. Not gonna put you in a good position to rebound when you do that, though.
The offense left a lot to be desired, but that's just being a frosh and getting in a flow.
Jonah's turnover rate is now 58.1%
Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2023, 08:14:28 AM
Good call. I was pretty damn impressed by Weaver - high-energy guy who played with an edge.
Crazy athletic too.
but a loss to Wisconsin counts as 5 losses against Shaka's season record...
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 07, 2023, 08:57:04 AM
The Wisconsin loss will not "haunt us all year."
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
Nah, the real crime is selling Coke instead of Pepsi.
Do you drink Pepsi while eating your skyline chili? ;D Never have I lost respect for a person so fast before. ;D
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
Nah, the real crime is selling Coke instead of Pepsi.
^^^ ban dis guy
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 08:30:39 AM
Nah, the real crime is selling Coke instead of Pepsi.
If the FF was a Pepsi joint instead of Coke I'd get easy access to the Pepsi box. My S-i-L works for Pepsi but they only have about 6 seats, great seats but a box would be nice!
Quote from: withoutbias on December 07, 2023, 10:05:36 AM
Only disappointing thing about last night was Zaide's 1 rebound in 10 minutes. I was told he had the elite athleticism that Jop lacks that is a requisite to compete at this level of basketball. Alas, maybe playing against Southern makes you look like a better rebounder than when you're playing the big boys.
(He did do a good job defensively on Absmas. He looked in over his head offensively.)
Surprised you brought this up as it makes you look like a bigger tool than you already are. Zaide was assinged to Abams (a guy that the staff would never think to have Jop try to guard), and Abams whole game largely is 3 point line extended and Zaide shut him down. So, Zaide was guarding the further position from the basket, therefore limiting rebound opportunities.
All that said, not surprised you raise this point and once again illustrate your complete lack of understanding of basketball. Stick to the Politics thread.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 07, 2023, 08:59:32 AM
I grew up in a Coca Cola house, my grandfather was one of the original bottlers, and my dad worked for Coke until I started high school. I remember my dad bringing home the first Diet Coke can or the first New Coke Can, doing the Pepsi Challenge at Woodfield Mall, my brother and I used to record ourselves singing "Coke Is It" or "I'd Like To Buy The World A Coke" and my favorite commercial of all time is the Mean Joe Greene Coke commercial. Never had a Pepsi before college, can't stand the stuff.
I recently saw a "conspiracy theory" that was that Coca-Cola introduced "New Coke" knowing and intending it to be a gigantic faceplant failure. They intended this so that they could change the recipe of Coca-Cola Classic to use corn syrup instead of cane sugar so it would be cheaper to produce, but that when the reintroduced the (now HFCS-sweetened) Coke Classic it would be close enough to the original and it wouldn't be New Coke that it would cover the switch.
Makes you think.
Quote from: pbiflyer on December 07, 2023, 11:31:44 AM
Do you drink Pepsi while eating your skyline chili? ;D Never have I lost respect for a person so fast before. ;D
I have not ordered chili in a restaurant since Senior Week, 1988. Chili is something I want on a hot dog. And whatever it is, it would taste better with a diet Pepsi.
Quote from: mug644 on December 06, 2023, 09:28:39 PM
FIFY. Each time we play ND, Tower, I am reminded of our suffering. No mercy. None.
Ready to be triggered, mug644? David F-ing Rivers.
Quote from: The Lens on December 07, 2023, 08:28:24 AM
Bring your checkbook...actually bring your credit card, it's only plastic.
I've found my Fiserv drink and it's ridiculous. A double tequila or double vodka + soda. Runs you $22 + tip. I can make those last a half and it's so much better for your soul than drinking A-B products.
The hitch is they won't serve you two at a time so if my wife wants one, we have to buy seperately. Yes, seriously they won't sell you two doubles. They won't even sell you 1 double and 1 beer. It really is the worst arena in America.
#BringBackTheBC
Well, I'll have most of the drinks beforehand. But yes, the prices at Fiserv are nuts.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 01:09:25 PM
I have not ordered chili in a restaurant since Senior Week, 1988. Chili is something I want on a hot dog. And whatever it is, would taste better with a diet Pepsi.
Pepsi - Yes
Diet? You're a crazy man.
Thanks. I have been called worse for far more important things.
Quote from: jficke13 on December 07, 2023, 12:42:26 PM
I recently saw a "conspiracy theory" that was that Coca-Cola introduced "New Coke" knowing and intending it to be a gigantic faceplant failure. They intended this so that they could change the recipe of Coca-Cola Classic to use corn syrup instead of cane sugar so it would be cheaper to produce, but that when the reintroduced the (now HFCS-sweetened) Coke Classic it would be close enough to the original and it wouldn't be New Coke that it would cover the switch.
Makes you think.
Two things are certain about Coke: they are master marketers, and they spend a ton of money on being such. While the theory has been officially struck down as New Coke was officially introduced to appeal to the changing tastes in people to more sweet drinks, it wouldn't surprise me if there was some truth behind the theory.
There is just something so good about that poppy, sharp, acidic taste in a cold bottle of Coke. I'm a Coke Zero guy if anything these days, but the thought of drinking a cold Coke makes my mouth water.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 01:09:25 PM
I have not ordered chili in a restaurant since Senior Week, 1988. Chili is something I want on a hot dog. And whatever it is, it would taste better with a diet Pepsi.
Tower,
Be sure to use some high quality tomato paste (with a premier hot pepper) soon after sautéing the onions to start the base of your chili. Harrisa is also a nice addition to this process before you brown your ground meat of choice. Add some minced garlic of course as well before browning the meat with a combination of the assumed badass spices.
Now, here's where some important details come in: The liquid combination you should add are the following: smushed peeled cherry tomatoes (Mutti) with juices, Guinness beer, and some solid beef broth. If you want your chili more liquidy and a bit of tomato juice as well. After your meat is browned for about 6 mins and 22 sets, start to simmer for 90 mins. With 30 mins left add either kidney beans or small red beans.
Your fixins should be: diced red onion or spring onion,, cilantro, shredded sharp cheddar, and sour cream. Enjoy.
No.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 07, 2023, 04:07:19 PM
Tower,
Be sure to use some high quality tomato paste (with a premier hot pepper) soon after sautéing the onions to start the base of your chili. Harrisa is also a nice addition to this process before you brown your ground meat of choice. Add some minced garlic of course as well before browning the meat with a combination of the assumed badass spices.
Now, here's where some important details come in: The liquid combination you should add are the following: smushed peeled cherry tomatoes (Mutti) with juices, Guinness beer, and some solid beef broth. If you want your chili more liquidy and a bit of tomato juice as well. After your meat is browned for about 6 mins and 22 sets, start to simmer for 90 mins. With 30 mins left add either kidney beans or small red beans.
Your fixins should be: diced red onion or spring onion,, cilantro, shredded sharp cheddar, and sour cream. Enjoy.
My two "secrets" are cocoa powder and cinnamon, for my beef chili recipe.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 07, 2023, 04:15:04 PM
My two "secrets" are cocoa powder and cinnamon, for my beef chili recipe.
Good call on both. Those are part of my bsb(badass spice blend). Tower is angry for some reason.
Not angry. Not a chili lover.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 04:25:06 PM
Not angry. Not a chili lover.
You call yourself a firefighter?
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 07, 2023, 04:33:41 PM
You call yourself a firefighter?
He's gotta sleep in a room with like 10 dudes a few times a week.
Quote from: lawdog77 on December 07, 2023, 04:33:41 PM
You call yourself a firefighter?
I used to. And for the last 18 years of my career I worked at single company stations. Just 3 of us. Rarely ate as a group.
Chili is great. Can't get behind coco or cinnamon in it though. I think Skyline uses at least coco.
Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2023, 08:14:28 AM
Good call. I was pretty damn impressed by Weaver - high-energy guy who played with an edge.
It all changed for him after half when he came out with matching shoes.
So who is going to start the postgame threads now? Clearly we can't trust a pepsi-drinker's observations
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on December 07, 2023, 03:21:52 PM
I'm a Coke Zero guy if anything these days
Love Coke Zero. Tastes like the real thing, always hated the tinny aftertaste of Diet Coke.
Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2023, 01:09:25 PM
I have not ordered chili in a restaurant since Senior Week, 1988. Chili is something I want on a hot dog. And whatever it is, it would taste better with a diet Pepsi.
I would respond to you, but since I have you on ignore I can't, but if I did, I would castigate you for the diet part even more. My MIL is addicted to those so now you remind me of her. ;D
If we ever are in Milwaukee together, I will happily buy you real chili though! ( are you here this weekend by chance?)
Coke>Pepsi but Diet Pepsi>Diet Coke
Quote from: mugrad_89 on December 06, 2023, 08:55:59 PM
#1 totally changed the flow of the game.
Zaide defended well. I don't think we can say it changed the flow of the game.
Zaide checked in with 5:10 to go in the first half. Marquette was in the midst of an 11-2 run and had a 29-22 lead. Abmas had cooked us early, but by this point had been stopped by Mitchell. Abmas hadn't scored since the 11 minute mark. Over the next three minutes, Texas went on a 6-0 run, with Abmas being responsible for 4/6 points. One bucket was in transition and not Lowery's cover in any way, but the other basket was with Lowery on him. Wasn't bad defense, but Abmas is talented and pulled up over Zaide and made a short jumper off a dribble drive. The lead was cut to 29-28. During this stretch, Zaide only touched the ball once on offense and took a wide open three but missed.
Over the last 2:23 of the half, our offense went nuclear. While the defense forced four consecutive stops. Lowery was responsible for one of the stops deflecting an Abmas pass that another Texas player caught but couldn't handle and dropped it out of bounds. Lowery also got lucky on one of the stops. Abmas crossed him up and Zaide literally ended up on the floor while Abmas took a wide open jumper from the elbow that fortunately missed. Lowery literally did not touch the ball on offense during this stretch as MU extended the lead to 39-28. Zaide was subbed out for the final 13 seconds which resulted in another three pointer for MU.
Zaide defended well and I love that Shaka threw that curveball. I just don't think we can say it changed the flow of the game when Abmas started scoring again after a long drought and Texas initially shrunk the lead to from 7 to 1. I think Kolek sinking three consecutive 3s (with a pair of Ross free throws mixed in there) is what changed the flow.
I view Zaide this season kind of the same way I viewed Sean Jones last season. He's a nice change of pace and curveball that forces the other team to think and change their attack, but he's not ready to be a consistent contributor yet. He absolutely will be in the future. I love his athleticism and he has a confidence that you don't find in most freshmen. As Shaka would put it, he's a future dude.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 08, 2023, 12:26:24 AM
Zaide defended well. I don't think we can say it changed the flow of the game.
Zaide checked in with 5:10 to go in the first half. Marquette was in the midst of an 11-2 run and had a 29-22 lead. Abmas had cooked us early, but by this point had been stopped by Mitchell. Abmas hadn't scored since the 11 minute mark. Over the next three minutes, Texas went on a 6-0 run, with Abmas being responsible for 4/6 points. One bucket was in transition and not Lowery's cover in any way, but the other basket was with Lowery on him. Wasn't bad defense, but Abmas is talented and pulled up over Zaide and made a short jumper off a dribble drive. The lead was cut to 29-28. During this stretch, Zaide only touched the ball once on offense and took a wide open three but missed.
Over the last 2:23 of the half, our offense went nuclear. While the defense forced four consecutive stops. Lowery was responsible for one of the stops deflecting an Abmas pass that another Texas player caught but couldn't handle and dropped it out of bounds. Lowery also got lucky on one of the stops. Abmas crossed him up and Zaide literally ended up on the floor while Abmas took a wide open jumper from the elbow that fortunately missed. Lowery literally did not touch the ball on offense during this stretch as MU extended the lead to 39-28. Zaide was subbed out for the final 13 seconds which resulted in another three pointer for MU.
Zaide defended well and I love that Shaka threw that curveball. I just don't think we can say it changed the flow of the game when Abmas started scoring again after a long drought and Texas initially shrunk the lead to from 7 to 1. I think Kolek sinking three consecutive 3s (with a pair of Ross free throws mixed in there) is what changed the flow.
I view Zaide this season kind of the same way I viewed Sean Jones last season. He's a nice change of pace and curveball that forces the other team to think and change their attack, but he's not ready to be a consistent contributor yet. He absolutely will be in the future. I love his athleticism and he has a confidence that you don't find in most freshmen. As Shaka would put it, he's a future dude.
Lol
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 08, 2023, 12:26:24 AM
Zaide defended well. I don't think we can say it changed the flow of the game.
Zaide checked in with 5:10 to go in the first half. Marquette was in the midst of an 11-2 run and had a 29-22 lead. Abmas had cooked us early, but by this point had been stopped by Mitchell. Abmas hadn't scored since the 11 minute mark. Over the next three minutes, Texas went on a 6-0 run, with Abmas being responsible for 4/6 points. One bucket was in transition and not Lowery's cover in any way, but the other basket was with Lowery on him. Wasn't bad defense, but Abmas is talented and pulled up over Zaide and made a short jumper off a dribble drive. The lead was cut to 29-28. During this stretch, Zaide only touched the ball once on offense and took a wide open three but missed.
Over the last 2:23 of the half, our offense went nuclear. While the defense forced four consecutive stops. Lowery was responsible for one of the stops deflecting an Abmas pass that another Texas player caught but couldn't handle and dropped it out of bounds. Lowery also got lucky on one of the stops. Abmas crossed him up and Zaide literally ended up on the floor while Abmas took a wide open jumper from the elbow that fortunately missed. Lowery literally did not touch the ball on offense during this stretch as MU extended the lead to 39-28. Zaide was subbed out for the final 13 seconds which resulted in another three pointer for MU.
Zaide defended well and I love that Shaka threw that curveball. I just don't think we can say it changed the flow of the game when Abmas started scoring again after a long drought and Texas initially shrunk the lead to from 7 to 1. I think Kolek sinking three consecutive 3s (with a pair of Ross free throws mixed in there) is what changed the flow.
I view Zaide this season kind of the same way I viewed Sean Jones last season. He's a nice change of pace and curveball that forces the other team to think and change their attack, but he's not ready to be a consistent contributor yet. He absolutely will be in the future. I love his athleticism and he has a confidence that you don't find in most freshmen. As Shaka would put it, he's a future dude.
Excellent synopsis of what really happened.
People remember what they want to remember. There are still those who think Jake's 4-point play turned the tide in that Syracuse game years ago even though Cuse ended up leading by more points later in the game and even though Jake was glued to the bench during the actual run that actually turned (and eventually won) the game.
Like you and some other Scoopers (and Shaka), I'm high on Zaide, and I'm glad he was able to make a contribution. But to paint him as the guy who turned Wednesday's game ... uh, no.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 08, 2023, 09:23:15 AM
Lol
Excellent refutement of facts.
Zaide demonstrated he was a long athletic defender on the perimeter at the end of the half and in combination with the offensive output by MU helped change the complexion of the game. When watching the game live his contribution seemed significant. It was like a breath of fresh air. Shaka had found someone with length to help shut down an opposing teams best scorer.
When watching the game a second time knowing the outcome and being more analytical, the tide had already started to turn. Zaide just helped seal the deal along with the offense. But Zaide is still a great find and will hopefully be very useful going forward against the other teams hot scorer. Will be a great change of pace.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 08, 2023, 09:23:15 AM
Lol
Do you not think Zaide defended well and is not a future dude?
Zaide came into a big game in December of his Freshman year playing meaningful minutes and wasn't obviously out of place. Phenomenal imo.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 08, 2023, 10:15:32 AM
Zaide came into a big game in December of his Freshman year playing meaningful minutes and wasn't obviously out of place. Phenomenal imo.
Nobody is saying anything differently. Excited to have Zaide on the team, and looking forward to seeing his role gradually grow as Shaka deploys him.
Quote from: MU82 on December 08, 2023, 10:18:30 AM
Nobody is saying anything differently. Excited to have Zaide on the team, and looking forward to seeing his role gradually grow as Shaka deploys him.
I bet you drink Pepsi
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 08, 2023, 10:20:42 AM
I bet you drink Pepsi
You lose!
Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2023, 09:00:11 AM
As an investor, I prefer Pepsi (PEP) to Coca-Cola (KO) because of Pepsi's snack division. Frito-Lay kills it, and Coke has nothing like it.
I'm not a big soda drinker, but I enjoyed the Coke Zeros I got on my last couple of flights.
Imported Mexican Coke is where it's at.
Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2023, 09:00:11 AM
I prefer Pepsi [...] to Coca-Cola
From the horse's mouth
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 08, 2023, 11:30:00 AM
From the horse's mouth
Nice. You must be taking Selective Quoting 101 from Douchey!
I prefer Pepsi to Coke but like both. McDonald's Coke is where it's at, though.
Quote from: MU82 on December 08, 2023, 11:47:56 AM
Nice. You must be taking Selective Quoting 101 from Douchey!
If I don't quote things to prove my point then I'd have to admit I'm wrong which would make me look weak. What's a boy to do?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 08, 2023, 11:50:31 AM
I prefer Pepsi to Coke but like both. McDonald's Coke is where it's at, though.
+1
That fountain is magic.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 08, 2023, 11:54:55 AM
If I don't quote things to prove my point then I'd have to admit I'm wrong which would make me look weak. What's a boy to do?
FWIW, I'm actually drinking a Coke Zero in the Admirals Lounge at CLT right now. Flight leaves for Milwaukee in about 90 minutes. Can't wait to watch our 40-point win tomorrow night!
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 08, 2023, 11:12:33 AM
Imported Mexican Coke is where it's at.
Colombian is better. Oh wait.
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 08, 2023, 11:12:33 AM
Imported Mexican Coke is where it's at.
But the price has gone through the roof since the Sinoloas consolidated control.
Just because it entertains me so much, my current soft drink of choice is Pepsi Zero Mango. After a stint with Mountain Dew Zero Spark. I also enjoy plain Pepsi Zero, Dr. Pepper Zero, and Mountain Dew Zero. In emergency situations, Coke Zero. If Diet Coke is my only option, I drink water.
Quote from: Hards Alumni on December 08, 2023, 12:36:34 PM
But the price has gone through the roof since the Sinoloas consolidated control.
That is my understanding after watching Narcos:Mexico
Best photo from the snap pass by Kolek to Kam for 3 on the baseline out of bounds. The coach right behind Kam is hilarious. I don't know how we continue to get that look once every other game or so.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 08, 2023, 11:50:31 AM
I prefer Pepsi to Coke but like both. McDonald's Coke is where it's at, though.
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Anyone who drinks soda/pop is soft...
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 08, 2023, 12:26:24 AM
Zaide defended well. I don't think we can say it changed the flow of the game.
Zaide checked in with 5:10 to go in the first half. Marquette was in the midst of an 11-2 run and had a 29-22 lead. Abmas had cooked us early, but by this point had been stopped by Mitchell. Abmas hadn't scored since the 11 minute mark. Over the next three minutes, Texas went on a 6-0 run, with Abmas being responsible for 4/6 points. One bucket was in transition and not Lowery's cover in any way, but the other basket was with Lowery on him. Wasn't bad defense, but Abmas is talented and pulled up over Zaide and made a short jumper off a dribble drive. The lead was cut to 29-28. During this stretch, Zaide only touched the ball once on offense and took a wide open three but missed.
Over the last 2:23 of the half, our offense went nuclear. While the defense forced four consecutive stops. Lowery was responsible for one of the stops deflecting an Abmas pass that another Texas player caught but couldn't handle and dropped it out of bounds. Lowery also got lucky on one of the stops. Abmas crossed him up and Zaide literally ended up on the floor while Abmas took a wide open jumper from the elbow that fortunately missed. Lowery literally did not touch the ball on offense during this stretch as MU extended the lead to 39-28. Zaide was subbed out for the final 13 seconds which resulted in another three pointer for MU.
Zaide defended well and I love that Shaka threw that curveball. I just don't think we can say it changed the flow of the game when Abmas started scoring again after a long drought and Texas initially shrunk the lead to from 7 to 1. I think Kolek sinking three consecutive 3s (with a pair of Ross free throws mixed in there) is what changed the flow.
I view Zaide this season kind of the same way I viewed Sean Jones last season. He's a nice change of pace and curveball that forces the other team to think and change their attack, but he's not ready to be a consistent contributor yet. He absolutely will be in the future. I love his athleticism and he has a confidence that you don't find in most freshmen. As Shaka would put it, he's a future dude.
Knower of ball has spoken
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 08, 2023, 04:31:25 PM
Anyone who drinks soda/pop is soft...
Ponce Gold with Mexican Coke
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 08, 2023, 05:34:59 PM
Ponce Gold with Mexican Coke
Remember Gold is not for mixing, I should get Ben NIL with Ponce Gold..
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 08, 2023, 05:42:41 PM
Remember Gold is not for mixing, I should get Ben NIL with Ponce Gold..
Tell that to the Notre Domer. Yes on Benny G.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 08, 2023, 05:44:49 PM
Tell that to the Notre Domer. Yes on Benny G.
Chili? He mixes!!!!
Quote from: wadesworld on December 08, 2023, 02:27:55 PM
I don't know how we continue to get that look once every other game or so.
It's crazy. Love it every time though.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 08, 2023, 02:27:55 PM
Best photo from the snap pass by Kolek to Kam for 3 on the baseline out of bounds. The coach right behind Kam is hilarious. I don't know how we continue to get that look once every other game or so.
The high school team I used to assistant coach ran that exact same play. We called it "3," and it got an open 3 at least a couple times a game. I was always astounded how often it worked.
I actually texted my former coach and sent him the same clip. "This is Marquette running 3 ... and it worked again!"
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 08, 2023, 09:41:42 AM
Do you not think Zaide defended well and is not a future dude?
4 of your 5 paragraph exposé on how Zaide didn't change the game basically told Scoop Zaide didn't defend very well...he got lucky on one of the stops as he "literally" ended up on the floor.
Abams goes for 13 in the first 11 minutes of the game, and 4 points the rest of the first half, of which 2 came on a layup that you acknowledge above wasn't on Zaide. Meanwhile, in the 5 minutes Zaide defended him he had 3 turnovers and Texas scored 4 points in the last 5 minutes of the 2nd half, after putting up 24 points in the first 15 minutes.
This aside, I LOL'd at your post as I it reminded me of your feeble attempts at trying to suggest Wojo was a good coach for four years on Scoop...grasping at straws to try to support your opinion.
Zaide will see an uptick in minutes as the season goes on...and I know you are all aboard the Chase Ross to the NBA hype train but Zaide is a better prospect. Bookmark this one.
I'd like to see the Chase that went nuts offensively in that intrasquad scrimmage, scoring with slashes to the hoop in contact and hitting some open shots.
I think an elite defensive effort with a breakaway dunk or two will open that up, maybe tonight?
I'm also pretty sure it's coming, what I don't know is what will happen after his breakout game?
What I hope is sustained dude-ism as a huge spark off the bench
Quote from: DoctorV on December 09, 2023, 11:13:49 AM
I'd like to see the Chase that went nuts offensively in that intrasquad scrimmage, scoring with slashes to the hoop in contact and hitting some open shots.
I think an elite defensive effort with a breakaway dunk or two will open that up, maybe tonight?
I'm also pretty sure it's coming, what I don't know is what will happen after his breakout game?
What I hope is sustained dude-ism as a huge spark off the bench
I would love for him to play exactly like he did against Texas every game. He's not going to get the shots to average 15 a game. He was GREAT on Wednesday.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 09, 2023, 08:58:58 AM
4 of your 5 paragraph exposé on how Zaide didn't change the game basically told Scoop Zaide didn't defend very well...he got lucky on one of the stops as he "literally" ended up on the floor.
Abams goes for 13 in the first 11 minutes of the game, and 4 points the rest of the first half, of which 2 came on a layup that you acknowledge above wasn't on Zaide. Meanwhile, in the 5 minutes Zaide defended him he had 3 turnovers and Texas scored 4 points in the last 5 minutes of the 2nd half, after putting up 24 points in the first 15 minutes.
This aside, I LOL'd at your post as I it reminded me of your feeble attempts at trying to suggest Wojo was a good coach for four years on Scoop...grasping at straws to try to support your opinion.
Zaide will see an uptick in minutes as the season goes on...and I know you are all aboard the Chase Ross to the NBA hype train but Zaide is a better prospect. Bookmark this one.
Yeah you're reading things that aren't there. Zaide defended well ( which is something i literally said word for word twice). As someone else said in this thread, the tenth player in our rotation, a true freshmen, played meaningful minutes in a game against a top 15 team and guarded their best scorer and held his own. That's phenomenal even it didn't change the flow of the game because again, Texas' offense had already been stopped by this point and our offense had just started to wake up (11-2 run right before Zaide checked in).
If you can point to anything in my post that was inaccurate, go ahead. Since you seemed to take issue with it, Zaide did literally end up on the floor on one play. Theres no shame in that, Abmas will do that to many more players this season with more experience than Zaide. If you need the exact minute mark, i can give it to you.
BTW, I'm pretty sure i get to claim credit as the first poster to be high on Zaide. I made a post saying he looked really good when we first offered him. My opinion on him hasn't changed since. He's a future dude. If he wasn't playing for a top 5 team, he'd be getting significant minutes every game.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 09, 2023, 08:58:58 AM
4 of your 5 paragraph exposé on how Zaide didn't change the game basically told Scoop Zaide didn't defend very well...he got lucky on one of the stops as he "literally" ended up on the floor.
Abams goes for 13 in the first 11 minutes of the game, and 4 points the rest of the first half, of which 2 came on a layup that you acknowledge above wasn't on Zaide. Meanwhile, in the 5 minutes Zaide defended him he had 3 turnovers and Texas scored 4 points in the last 5 minutes of the 2nd half, after putting up 24 points in the first 15 minutes.
This aside, I LOL'd at your post as I it reminded me of your feeble attempts at trying to suggest Wojo was a good coach for four years on Scoop...grasping at straws to try to support your opinion.
Zaide will see an uptick in minutes as the season goes on...and I know you are all aboard the Chase Ross to the NBA hype train but Zaide is a better prospect. Bookmark this one.
You need as much therapy as the Texas fan obsessed with shaka
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 09, 2023, 04:46:51 PM
You need as much therapy as the Texas fan obsessed with shaka
Super amusing coming from you...ever go back and read your posts during game threads? You have the emotional fortitude of a two year old.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 09, 2023, 04:24:59 PM
Yeah you're reading things that aren't there. Zaide defended well ( which is something i literally said word for word twice). As someone else said in this thread, the tenth player in our rotation, a true freshmen, played meaningful minutes in a game against a top 15 team and guarded their best scorer and held his own. That's phenomenal even it didn't change the flow of the game because again, Texas' offense had already been stopped by this point and our offense had just started to wake up (11-2 run right before Zaide checked in).
If you can point to anything in my post that was inaccurate, go ahead. Since you seemed to take issue with it, Zaide did literally end up on the floor on one play. Theres no shame in that, Abmas will do that to many more players this season with more experience than Zaide. If you need the exact minute mark, i can give it to you.
BTW, I'm pretty sure i get to claim credit as the first poster to be high on Zaide. I made a post saying he looked really good when we first offered him. My opinion on him hasn't changed since. He's a future dude. If he wasn't playing for a top 5 team, he'd be getting significant minutes every game.
Thanks for the clarifications, solid spin. Btw, who do you think will have the better career at MU, Chase or Zaide?
Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 09, 2023, 06:36:39 PM
Super amusing coming from you...ever go back and read your posts during game threads? You have the emotional fortitude of a two year old.
Thanks for the clarifications, solid spin. Btw, who do you think will have the better career at MU, Chase or Zaide?
LOL
Quote from: Elonsmusk on December 09, 2023, 06:36:39 PM
Thanks for the clarifications, solid spin. Btw, who do you think will have the better career at MU, Chase or Zaide?
No spin. Same message as the first post.
Right now, i think Chase but I'm confused why you are making this into a competition between Ross and Lowery? I'm high on both of them
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 09, 2023, 11:15:59 PM
I'm confused why you are making this into a competition between Ross and Lowery?
Are you new either to Scoop in general or conversations with Ners in particular?
Quote from: MU82 on December 10, 2023, 12:00:52 AM
Are you new either to Scoop in general or conversations with Ners in particular?
I mean, with Derrick and Dawson, it was clear that it was an either or situation with the starting PG spot. Ross and Lowery can easily play together
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 10, 2023, 12:36:39 AM
I mean, with Derrick and Dawson, it was clear that it was an either or situation with the starting PG spot. Ross and Lowery can easily play together
True. But that's being too logical.
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 09, 2023, 11:15:59 PM
No spin. Same message as the first post.
Right now, i think Chase but I'm confused why you are making this into a competition between Ross and Lowery? I'm high on both of them
Not making it a "competition" between Ross and Lowery - I just want to get your take on who you think is the better prospect. I'm high on both of them too, but as it relates to NBA potential I feel
Zaide is a better prospect/more likely to make the league. Similar to debating Justin Lewis versus OMax. J Lew had better college stats, but O-Max was the better prospect.
Shaka on Ross after last night's game:
He's awesome," Smart said. "I love the guy. I wish we could clone him, because he's the type of guy you can never have enough people like him.
"He's got an unselfishness about him. He's got a toughness about him. Tonight went and grabbed the ball, which is big. It's not like we're overflowing with great rebounders."