Jop - You've driven some of us Scoopers crazy this season. I owe you (and Shaka) an apology for questioning the PT you've gotten. I'm sorry. Great game. That is all.
He will tick us off again. Today was awesome.
The offense was great but I thought he really shined on the defensive end as well. Great all around game. If he can keep this form we are in great shape.
Quote from: Tha Hound on January 28, 2023, 03:11:32 PM
The offense was great but I thought he really shined on the defensive end as well. Great all around game. If he can keep this form we are in great shape.
He's really come a long ways. He was aggressive going after rebounds which helped the defense.
Gonna piggy back on this, well done young man. Loved his commitment and his entire attitude. Confidence begets confidence.
The HC stated he could one year lead the BE in scoring, enough for me.
Quote from: Tha Hound on January 28, 2023, 03:11:32 PM
The offense was great but I thought he really shined on the defensive end as well. Great all around game. If he can keep this form we are in great shape.
Agree..he played really hard on the defensive end. His catch and shoot without any thought is when he is at his best. Stepped up huge today on a day we lost Kam.
I am on the Jop bandwagon
Quote from: Goose on January 28, 2023, 03:13:39 PM
The HC stated he could one year lead the BE in scoring, enough for me.
You've been Jop's biggest fan Goose...kudos to you for your vision/wisdom to stick with Jop.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 28, 2023, 03:15:03 PM
You've been Jop's biggest fan Goose...kudos to you for your vision/wisdom to stick with Jop.
Not true. I've been his biggest fan for awhile now
Happy for David. Needed someone else to step up today and he answered the bell. I know we expect perfection early from players but as we're learning with this staff, guys coming into college aren't perfect and can get better. Maximizing the talent is what seperates programs. David is another example of a player that is constantly getting better under Shaka. I don't know what happened totally in Texas when Shaka was there. Hats off to Shaka for coming to Marquette and doing the damn thing. And kudos to his players for working and growing
Quote from: PointWarrior on January 28, 2023, 03:14:31 PM
I am on the Jop bandwagon
I believe Phil from Scrambled Eggs is driving that, so be careful.
I get his scoring will rightfully be the lede, but seeing him play mistake free on both ends was equally impressive
Quote from: NickelDimer on January 28, 2023, 03:22:22 PM
I get his scoring will rightfully be the lede, but seeing him play mistake free on both ends was equally impressive
Completely agree. He was excellent
I've been hard on Jop all year because I think he's been a liability on defense and a dead end on offense. But nobody can argue with what he did today. Have yourself a day, kid!
On top of being a true scorer, Joplin has the scorer mentality, a very short memory. He has a very high ceiling and his best days are ahead of him. When he is on, it is a real treat to watch. So much so, that he overshadowed to Kolek, which is saying a lot.
Quote from: Goose on January 28, 2023, 03:30:40 PM
On top of being a true scorer, Joplin has the scorer mentality, a very short memory. He has a very high ceiling and his best days are ahead of him. When he is on, it is a real treat to watch. So much so, that he overshadowed to Kolek, which is saying a lot.
hes the best nba prospect on this roster goose
panda
I think I would take a hard pass on that, but he is going to be high impact college player.
Quote from: panda on January 28, 2023, 03:32:05 PM
hes the best nba prospect on this roster goose
Absolutely not.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 28, 2023, 03:36:08 PM
Absolutely not.
Watch out for panda's shtick regarding Jop. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻
Quote from: Goose on January 28, 2023, 03:30:40 PM
On top of being a true scorer, Joplin has the scorer mentality, a very short memory. He has a very high ceiling and his best days are ahead of him. When he is on, it is a real treat to watch. So much so, that he overshadowed to Kolek, which is saying a lot.
This again^^^
I've said for a while now that when we get to the part of the season that matters most, the elimination game part, Jop will be a MASSIVE factor in if this Marquette team has a magical run.
At some point time things will inevitably get tough- the offense will stagnate and need a bucket bad when our opponent catches fire.
Shaka will call on Joplin for that bucket, and if Joplin makes Marquette will advance. If he doesn't it will be a lot harder.
I think Shaka knows that too. That's why he gets extra rope, for games like this, and games in March where a slower paced tough defensive opponent makes Marquette sweat
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2023, 03:21:14 PM
Happy for David. Needed someone else to step up today and he answered the bell. I know we expect perfection early from players but as we're learning with this staff, guys coming into college aren't perfect and can get better. Maximizing the talent is what seperates programs. David is another example of a player that is constantly getting better under Shaka. I don't know what happened totally in Texas when Shaka was there. Hats off to Shaka for coming to Marquette and doing the damn thing. And kudos to his players for working and growing
Excellent post, Unk. Every word spot on.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 28, 2023, 03:07:17 PM
Jop - You've driven some of us Scoopers crazy this season. I owe you (and Shaka) an apology for questioning the PT you've gotten. I'm sorry. Great game. That is all.
Appreciate this, Nrs. Maybe you shoulda written the Hausers' letter for them - ha!
Seriously, Joplin's not perfect (as is the case with all of us), and he'll drive some of us crazy again, but he's a talented kid and our coach knows him inside-out.
Oh, and Ben Gold got a couple decent little runs, too. Shaka's got this. Incredibly, he actually knows his players better than interwebs fan-board posters do.
Quote from: noblewarrior on January 28, 2023, 03:38:26 PM
Watch out for panda's shtick regarding Jop. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻
you mean the 6'8 dead eye shooter with an nba body playing very well in his first full season of action is shtick?
You just don't know ball
Quote from: panda on January 28, 2023, 03:15:52 PM
Not true. I've been his biggest fan for awhile now
Me too. Me too.
Actually after last season, I predicted 15/6 for Jop this year.
Quote from: panda on January 28, 2023, 03:56:32 PM
you mean the 6'8 dead eye shooter with an nba body playing very well in his first full season of action is shtick?
You just don't know ball
Jop ain't 6'8".
Jop is a poor man's Carmelo Anthony.
His last two games have been good on the defensive end.
He's going to take an O-Max jump over the summer in regards to putting the ball on the floor, and he's going to be an impossible guy to guard.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 28, 2023, 04:24:08 PM
Jop is a poor man's Carmelo Anthony.
His last two games have been good on the defensive end.
He's going to take an O-Max jump over the summer in regards to putting the ball on the floor, and he's going to be an impossible guy to guard.
Make that a beggar's Carmelo Anthony. You are talking about a Hof'er.
If Jop can do to other college teams what Carmelo did to them I'd be elated.
If Jop can do to other NBA teams anywhere close to what Carmelo did to them I'd be shocked.
Still, a decent comp on style of play
Quote from: panda on January 28, 2023, 03:56:32 PM
you mean the 6'8 dead eye shooter with an nba body playing very well in his first full season of action is shtick?
You just don't know ball
Chef's kiss 💋
At some point, Mitchell's minutes will probably go to both Jop and Ross. Mitchell is a great glue guy but you can't consistently miss open shots and expect to play significant minutes.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 28, 2023, 05:36:15 PM
At some point, Mitchell's minutes will probably go to both Jop and Ross. Mitchell is a great glue guy but you can't consistently miss open shots and expect to play significant minutes.
Hard disagree. Mitchell is part of the best lineup in the country. You don't mess with that. His defense is just as important as Jop's offense, if not more so, when it comes to making a March run.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 28, 2023, 05:36:15 PM
At some point, Mitchell's minutes will probably go to both Jop and Ross. Mitchell is a great glue guy but you can't consistently miss open shots and expect to play significant minutes.
Our number one rated offense really needs some tweaking.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 28, 2023, 05:48:23 PM
Hard disagree. Mitchell is part of the best lineup in the country. You don't mess with that. His defense is just as important as Jop's offense, if not more so, when it comes to making a March run.
I am referring to the future, not this year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 28, 2023, 05:48:23 PM
Hard disagree. Mitchell is part of the best lineup in the country. You don't mess with that. His defense is just as important as Jop's offense, if not more so, when it comes to making a March run.
Mitchell isn't integral. Lineups with Kolek and oso will naturally be more metrically efficient. Just because there is zero data supporting the jop for mitchel sub, doesn't automatically disqualify the option.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 28, 2023, 03:07:17 PM
Jop - You've driven some of us Scoopers crazy this season. I owe you (and Shaka) an apology for questioning the PT you've gotten. I'm sorry. Great game. That is all.
Thanks for owning it. David has a very high ceiling which is why he may be frustrating to watch at times. Still a work in progress but that performance wasn't new to the staff as they have seen it before. In 2-3 years, we'll know whether he is indeed better than Baldwin as a few of us felt.
Quote from: panda on January 28, 2023, 11:56:23 PM
Mitchell isn't integral. Lineups with Kolek and oso will naturally be more metrically efficient. Just because there is zero data supporting the jop for mitchel sub, doesn't automatically disqualify the option.
Again, hard disagree. Mitchell doesn't stuff the box score, but he does all the little things that make this team so good. We know he's our best perimeter defender, but as a team we shoot 64.3% from 2 when he's on compared to 56.5% when he's off. That's not because of Stevie's personal shooting (55.1% from 2) or because he's creating those looks (9.0% assist rate) but because he knows how to make the right cut, how to draw attention, how to create space, and how to work off his teammates.
Compare that to Jop. When he's off our 2PFG% is at 63.3% but when he comes in it drops to 58.1%. And obviously the defense craters when he's on the floor. I really like Jop, and he certainly raises our 3PFG% ceiling when he's out there, but the staff knows what they're doing when it comes to Stevie starting and Jop coming off the bench.
If Jop is the comparison, using hoop-explorer...
Mitchell ON Offense: 119.4
Mitchell OFF Offense: 115.0
Mitchell ON Defense: 101.0
Mitchell OFF Defense: 100.9
Joplin ON Offense: 117.3
Joplin OFF Offense: 117.4
Joplin ON Defense: 104.4
Joplin OFF Defense: 98.1
Jop is earning his minutes. He's reasserting the sixth man role that Chase Ross was coming hard for. But before yesterday, in conference play he was averaging 9.0 ppg with a 44.8 eFG% and shooting just 28.9% from three. Yesterday was awesome and put some real shine on his numbers, but that was one game. Don't let your idea of who should be starting hinge on one hot shooting night.
As far as subbing Jop ahead of Mitchell in the lineup, that absolutely, 100%, no question should be automatically disqualified.
Thanks for the analysis. I'd love to see Ross' numbers in that mix. Not suggesting Ross should jump Mitchell just genuinely curious.
Brew...those numbers count for who else is in the rotation?
The eye test was unfriendly to Stevie yesterday...they didn't pretend to guard him...and his guy chased the ball all over the court. Teams aren't worried about his ability to drive and dish...and they had a rim protector and length that made it impossible for Stevie.
Love the kid...but if he can't be a 3 and D guy...I would expect his minutes to shrink.
Quote from: avid1010 on January 29, 2023, 06:55:44 AM
Brew...those numbers count for who else is in the rotation?
The eye test was unfriendly to Stevie yesterday...they didn't pretend to guard him...and his guy chased the ball all over the court. Teams aren't worried about his ability to drive and dish...and they had a rim protector and length that made it impossible for Stevie.
Love the kid...but if he can't be a 3 and D guy...I would expect his minutes to shrink.
In Shaka's system they won't
Quote from: avid1010 on January 29, 2023, 06:55:44 AM
Brew...those numbers count for who else is in the rotation?
The eye test was unfriendly to Stevie yesterday...they didn't pretend to guard him...and his guy chased the ball all over the court. Teams aren't worried about his ability to drive and dish...and they had a rim protector and length that made it impossible for Stevie.
Love the kid...but if he can't be a 3 and D guy...I would expect his minutes to shrink.
We're #1 in offense. #70 in defense. You want to take minutes from our best defender and give them to our worst defender (though he has improved a bit the past few games)?
Stevie had a bad shooting game. Veggie yesterday he was shooting 35% from 3 in Big East play. His offense had been fine and his defense has been elite
Guys just watch Stevie on defense. Look how, when he is on the top of the key, he is pushing the PG to one side or the other. He is effectively taking away a large portion of the opponents floor. Stevie is not losing significant minutes. He is fifth on the team in minutes and IMO that is about where he will end up.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 29, 2023, 06:15:51 AM
Again, hard disagree. Mitchell doesn't stuff the box score, but he does all the little things that make this team so good. We know he's our best perimeter defender, but as a team we shoot 64.3% from 2 when he's on compared to 56.5% when he's off. That's not because of Stevie's personal shooting (55.1% from 2) or because he's creating those looks (9.0% assist rate) but because he knows how to make the right cut, how to draw attention, how to create space, and how to work off his teammates.
Compare that to Jop. When he's off our 2PFG% is at 63.3% but when he comes in it drops to 58.1%. And obviously the defense craters when he's on the floor. I really like Jop, and he certainly raises our 3PFG% ceiling when he's out there, but the staff knows what they're doing when it comes to Stevie starting and Jop coming off the bench.
If Jop is the comparison, using hoop-explorer...
Mitchell ON Offense: 119.4
Mitchell OFF Offense: 115.0
Mitchell ON Defense: 101.0
Mitchell OFF Defense: 100.9
Joplin ON Offense: 117.3
Joplin OFF Offense: 117.4
Joplin ON Defense: 104.4
Joplin OFF Defense: 98.1
Jop is earning his minutes. He's reasserting the sixth man role that Chase Ross was coming hard for. But before yesterday, in conference play he was averaging 9.0 ppg with a 44.8 eFG% and shooting just 28.9% from three. Yesterday was awesome and put some real shine on his numbers, but that was one game. Don't let your idea of who should be starting hinge on one hot shooting night.
As far as subbing Jop ahead of Mitchell in the lineup, that absolutely, 100%, no question should be automatically disqualified.
With jop's improvement on the defensive end, it's not as cut and dry to use past stats for your stance.
because both are really good in their role and make the team better in very different ways but for the sake of discussion. The spacing would only improve if Joplin was on the floor with our other four best players for longer stretches. It's not a coincidence jop has his best game while playing in kam's role with oso, omax and Kolek spacing and doing what they do best.
Or maybe he just got hot. Let's not read too much into one game.
Quote from: Hoops92 on January 29, 2023, 06:40:05 AM
Thanks for the analysis. I'd love to see Ross' numbers in that mix. Not suggesting Ross should jump Mitchell just genuinely curious.
Here's Ross' on/off splits:
Ross ON Offense: 111.3
Ross OFF Offense: 121.6
Ross ON Defense: 96.3
Ross OFF Defense: 104.4
The aforementioned 2PFG% drops from 63.0% to 57.9% when he comes on the floor. Similar to Joplin, this is less about his personal production (Ross is awesome inside the arc) and more about how his movement impacts the team as a whole.
If you go to Hoop Explorer and look at all lineups that have played 300+ possessions (15+ per game, based on 20 games so far) Marquette's is a narrow second (+37.0) to Purdue's starting five (+37.8). Stevie is part of that. Take him out and we get worse. For years, we've talked about how disappointing it was when the whole was not greater than the sum of the parts. This team
NEEDS Stevie Mitchell out there in order to reach that "greater than the sum of the parts" plateau. Just because you can't quantify it in a box score doesn't mean his impact on this team isn't just as essential as the more statistically prolific Tyler Kolek or Kam Jones types.
I like our bench. I'm glad Jop can provide instant offense and Ross can come in as the lockdown guy. I'm glad Gold is earning minutes and Sean gives us a viable backup point guard. But none of them do as much to make the team as a whole better than Stevie does.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 29, 2023, 07:39:43 AM
If you go to Hoop Explorer and look at all lineups that have played 300+ possessions (15+ per game, based on 20 games so far) Marquette's is a narrow second (+37.0) to Purdue's starting five (+37.8). Stevie is part of that. Take him out and we get worse. For years, we've talked about how disappointing it was when the whole was not greater than the sum of the parts. This team NEEDS Stevie Mitchell out there in order to reach that "greater than the sum of the parts" plateau. Just because you can't quantify it in a box score doesn't mean his impact on this team isn't just as essential as the more statistically prolific Tyler Kolek or Kam Jones types.
I like our bench. I'm glad Jop can provide instant offense and Ross can come in as the lockdown guy. I'm glad Gold is earning minutes and Sean gives us a viable backup point guard. But none of them do as much to make the team as a whole better than Stevie does.
Yessir. A consistent theme here was the whole "sum of parts" thing. And another was about our team being lousy on D. And now some of the same folks who were complaining about those things want to change a starting lineup whose sum of the parts has been elite and take minutes away from our best perimeter defender.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 29, 2023, 05:44:43 AM
David has a very high ceiling which is why he may be frustrating to watch at times. Still a work in progress but that performance wasn't new to the staff as they have seen it before.
Exactly. Let's try to trust the coach -- the guy the vast majority of Scoopers believe is doing a hell of a job, and the guy who actually sees these kids working hard every single day.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 29, 2023, 07:39:43 AM
Here's Ross' on/off splits:
Ross ON Offense: 111.3
Ross OFF Offense: 121.6
Ross ON Defense: 96.3
Ross OFF Defense: 104.4
The aforementioned 2PFG% drops from 63.0% to 57.9% when he comes on the floor. Similar to Joplin, this is less about his personal production (Ross is awesome inside the arc) and more about how his movement impacts the team as a whole.
If you go to Hoop Explorer and look at all lineups that have played 300+ possessions (15+ per game, based on 20 games so far) Marquette's is a narrow second (+37.0) to Purdue's starting five (+37.8). Stevie is part of that. Take him out and we get worse. For years, we've talked about how disappointing it was when the whole was not greater than the sum of the parts. This team NEEDS Stevie Mitchell out there in order to reach that "greater than the sum of the parts" plateau. Just because you can't quantify it in a box score doesn't mean his impact on this team isn't just as essential as the more statistically prolific Tyler Kolek or Kam Jones types.
I like our bench. I'm glad Jop can provide instant offense and Ross can come in as the lockdown guy. I'm glad Gold is earning minutes and Sean gives us a viable backup point guard. But none of them do as much to make the team as a whole better than Stevie does.
Thanks. Love this stuff. I won't lie my eye test says Stevie should get fewer minutes but this is super interesting. I will be paying attention to how Stevie's movement and cutting creates offense.
Speaking of cutting ...
I loved the design and execution of the play that resulted in Kam getting a backdoor layup in the first half. It looked like Kam was going to drift to the arc, but he stopped quickly and he sharply cut to the hoop ... and Oso (of course) hit him in stride with a perfect pass for the bunny.
Just beautiful basketball.
Quote from: MU82 on January 29, 2023, 08:06:48 AM
Speaking of cutting ...
I loved the design and execution of the play that resulted in Kam getting a backdoor layup in the first half. It looked like Kam was going to drift to the arc, but he stopped quickly and he sharply cut to the hoop ... and Oso (of course) hit him in stride with a perfect pass for the bunny.
Just beautiful basketball.
That was beautiful. Oso is such a great passer.
Another thing that stands out for me is how well all nine guys in the rotation can handle the ball. What other team has its two biggest players be able to do what Oso and Gold can do? Makes us so dangerous.
Quote from: MU82 on January 29, 2023, 08:06:48 AM
Speaking of cutting ...
I loved the design and execution of the play that resulted in Kam getting a backdoor layup in the first half. It looked like Kam was going to drift to the arc, but he stopped quickly and he sharply cut to the hoop ... and Oso (of course) hit him in stride with a perfect pass for the bunny.
Just beautiful basketball.
I miss hero ball.
Quote from: BLWarrior91 on January 29, 2023, 08:21:07 AM
That was beautiful. Oso is such a great passer.
Another thing that stands out for me is how well all nine guys in the rotation can handle the ball. What other team has its two biggest players be able to do what Oso and Gold can do? Makes us so dangerous.
Oso got the ball stolen off his dribble once yesterday and I was like, "Wait, what?" It happens so rarely that I'd forgotten that it could ever have happen to him. He has spoiled us!
Quote from: avid1010 on January 29, 2023, 06:55:44 AM
Brew...those numbers count for who else is in the rotation?
The eye test was unfriendly to Stevie yesterday...they didn't pretend to guard him...and his guy chased the ball all over the court. Teams aren't worried about his ability to drive and dish...and they had a rim protector and length that made it impossible for Stevie.
Yes. That is why we were only able to muster 89 points.
Stevie isn't losing minutes to Joplin
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 29, 2023, 08:25:45 AM
I miss hero ball.
On this we agree. Markus deserves all the accolades, great student athlete, great person, amazing scorer...and I never want to watch that sort of offense again.
We spent an entire week debating whether Joplin should lose minutes to Ben.
Now we are debating whether Stevie should lose minutes to Jop.
Some great analytical points made in the thread on Stevie's value, and as MU82 always says it seems very obvious that Shaka has the perfect pulse on this team and who should play when.
To keep it much simpler- you don't change a starting lineup when you are on a roll, creeping up on a top 10 ranking and top 3/4 seed, and in line at a potential BE Title.
Worst case scenario would be Kam missing a game, and in that case we will see either David or Chase slide into the starting lineup. Otherwise you don't mess with happy
Quote from: DoctorV on January 29, 2023, 09:38:19 AM
We spent an entire week debating whether Joplin should lose minutes to Ben.
Now we are debating whether Stevie should lose minutes to Jop.
Some great analytical points made in the thread on Stevie's value, and as MU82 always says it seems very obvious that Shaka has the perfect pulse on this team and who should play when.
To keep it much simpler- you don't change a starting lineup when you are on a roll, creeping up on a top 10 ranking and top 3/4 seed, and in line at a potential BE Title.
Worst case scenario would be Kam missing a game, and in that case we will see either David or Chase slide into the starting lineup. Otherwise you don't mess with happy
This. Having the extra PG has really helped Tyler in particular and with making the offense elite. Shaka even goes with three PGs at times. A seam penetrator and a key transit point distributor really prevents the defense from just keying on Tyler like they did last season.
1977 had Bill Neary. 2003 had Todd Townsend. Underappreciated glue guys.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 29, 2023, 09:49:55 AM
This. Having the extra PG has really helped Tyler in particular and with making the offense elite. Shaka even goes with three PGs at times. A seam penetrator and a key transit point distributor really prevents the defense from just keying on Tyler like they did last season.
1977 had Bill Neary. 2003 had Todd Townsend. Underappreciated glue guys.
Both of you gentleman are correct.
IMO, Stevie brings far more to the table than Neary or Todd brought to their teams. That is meant as a compliment to Stevie and not a bash on the other two. Stevie is a big part of this team and gets the minutes he should get. I would not be making many adjustments to playing time, other than when someone is going off like Joplin did yesterday.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 28, 2023, 05:54:00 PM
Our number one rated offense really needs some tweaking.
This summed it up quite well. Stevie is very valuable to this team. Jop has really stepped up his effort defensively and has been rebounding the ball better of late. Jop is a great asset off the bench for instant offense - and is now trending the right way defensively.
I don't see a need to make any change in our lineup/rotation, however it could be possible that Stevie and Chase's minutes start to even out a bit more.
This program has come along ways when the hot debate is Stevie vs Jop minutes.
As opposed to Derrick Wilson vs Magic Dawson
Quote from: panda on January 28, 2023, 03:56:32 PM
you mean the 6'8 dead eye shooter with an nba body playing very well in his first full season of action is shtick?
You just don't know ball
He played in 32 of MU's 32 games last season. Last year was his first full year of action.
Having said that, if you want Ben Gold playing more than him are you a hater?
Quote from: wadesworld on January 29, 2023, 03:46:16 PM
He played in 32 of MU's 32 games last season. Last year was his first full year of action.
Having said that, if you want Ben Gold playing more than him are you a hater?
He played like three minutes/game in conference. Role is just slightly different this year.
Quote from: panda on January 29, 2023, 03:49:23 PM
He played like three minutes/game in conference. Role is just slightly different this year.
In other words, not his first full year of action.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 29, 2023, 04:03:38 PM
In other words, not his first full year of action.
Incorrect phrasing initially - but the point remains the same
Quote from: Goose on January 29, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
IMO, Stevie brings far more to the table than Neary or Todd brought to their teams. That is meant as a compliment to Stevie and not a bash on the other two. Stevie is a big part of this team and gets the minutes he should get. I would not be making many adjustments to playing time, other than when someone is going off like Joplin did yesterday.
Stevie being slightly dangerous from 3 would be a boon for this team. Hoping he is in the gym working on it this week.
Jake
He looked like he was gaining a lot of confidence shooting a few weeks ago and I was hoping it would continue. He seems to be a bit tentative the past few games.
With Jop now at 10.5, the team has 5 double-digit scorers. Nice.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on January 29, 2023, 04:43:46 PM
With Jop now at 10.5, the team has 5 double-digit scorers. Nice.
The most amazing thing is that for sure means we are averaging 50 points per game.
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 29, 2023, 04:45:36 PM
The most amazing thing is that for sure means we are averaging 50 points per game.
Oooo. Look at math guy over here.
Yeah that's about Wisconsin's total points average right?
Marquette 59 points in a half on the road.
Wisconsin 51 points in a game at home.
Aaahhhhhhh
Quote from: tower912 on January 29, 2023, 04:53:11 PM
Marquette 59 points in a half on the road.
Wisconsin 51 points in a game at home.
Aaahhhhhhh
I know we dislike them anyways, but as a sport fan, watching b10 basketball games where wisconsin is a participant is mind-numbing. Scoring is fun. And those games are bereft of scoring.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 29, 2023, 04:09:02 PM
Stevie being slightly dangerous from 3 would be a boon for this team. Hoping he is in the gym working on it this week.
Stevie had that one game where he was hot so he can do it. I was happy he was tak8ng shots vs DePaul. They didn't drop but he is capable
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 29, 2023, 05:08:14 PM
I know we dislike them anyways, but as a sport fan, watching b10 basketball games where wisconsin is a participant is mind-numbing. Scoring is fun. And those games are bereft of scoring.
Well, the people that enjoy it chose to go to school at UW (or buy the shirt at KMart). So we aren't talking about people with the greatest taste.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 29, 2023, 09:38:19 AM
We spent an entire week debating whether Joplin should lose minutes to Ben.
Now we are debating whether Stevie should lose minutes to Jop.
Some great analytical points made in the thread on Stevie's value, and as MU82 always says it seems very obvious that Shaka has the perfect pulse on this team and who should play when.
To keep it much simpler- you don't change a starting lineup when you are on a roll, creeping up on a top 10 ranking and top 3/4 seed, and in line at a potential BE Title.
Worst case scenario would be Kam missing a game, and in that case we will see either David or Chase slide into the starting lineup. Otherwise you don't mess with happy
Highlighted part is just nutso talk. You are really going to take the word of a guy with decades of coaching experience who spends hours a day with these guys for months and years over the ideas of random internet guys who "know ball"
Ban dis guy. ;D
Looks like Joplin may be the best corner 3 point shooter in the country.
Almost 50% on a reasonable volume.
https://twitter.com/CBBAnalytics/status/1621174447075106816?t=KNwFpRW0FvwWv2aeiLxs1g&s=19