The line and OU against DePaul.
These have been fruitful of late so I figured let's get some thoughts.
From my end I've got nothing really.
MU is 2-3 at Wintrust and I've been to like 3-4 Marquette road losses versus DePaul in the last decade (one at Rosemont) so I'm jaded, can't think clearly.
I'm hopefully certain we've got this, but have no feel on how it'll go down.
Thoughts?
-9.5 feels like a lot. I could see us covering, but that's right around where I'd put the line so I can't really endorse either side by much. As far as the points, both teams play fast on offense and slow you down on defense, both protect the ball well. I would slightly lean under, but again tough to say.
If there's anything I'd really like, it would be live betting Marquette on the second half spread, especially if the first half is at all tight. We're a better second half team and I could see us really coming out and laying down a marker to start the second.
I follow Brew's philosophy when it comes to betting MU games, I openly want them to be down around 6ish or more near the ten minute mark of the first half.
MU, outside of obviously me being a fan, has been one of the best teams to live bet on and get better value on mid game as opposed to pregame.
The over easily
Anything over -8 is hard for me to play in NCAAB. Marquette could control the game wire-to-wire and still not cover.
Heading to Vegas first thing in the am. Will not be betting MU -9.5.
Hammer the over on this one.
My worry about the over is DePaul is a bad offensive team. They've only been over a 152.5 total once in January and they have been playing at a slower pace of late month. They were at 72.1 possessions in their first 15 games, just 68.2 in their last 6. It's a small sample size, but really leads me toward an 80-65 type result for Marquette.
DId anyone watch the DePaul win over X? What do we need to eliminate? Ty.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2023, 07:08:15 AM
DId anyone watch the DePaul win over X? What do we need to eliminate? Ty.
Souley Boum was atrocious shooting the ball. 1/12 from the field and just 4 points from the guy who's probably now favorite for Big East Player of the Year. Xavier just didn't make their threes. Went 4/20 overall from deep. They beat DePaul on the glass on both ends, won the turnover rate battle, and outscored them from the line, but X couldn't overcome their cold shooting.
Keep the ball moving, find the hot hand, I think we win going away. This feels like an O-Max game. Not sure DePaul has anyone on the wing with the size, strength, and speed to stick with him.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 28, 2023, 07:15:05 AM
Souley Boum was atrocious shooting the ball. 1/12 from the field and just 4 points from the guy who's probably now favorite for Big East Player of the Year. Xavier just didn't make their threes. Went 4/20 overall from deep. They beat DePaul on the glass on both ends, won the turnover rate battle, and outscored them from the line, but X couldn't overcome their cold shooting.
Keep the ball moving, find the hot hand, I think we win going away. This feels like an O-Max game. Not sure DePaul has anyone on the wing with the size, strength, and speed to stick with him.
So essentially if they'd do what I have suggested every game there shouldn't be any anxiety? :)
Hammer MU -9.5. Home game. We'll be up 6-10 points the entire game and DePaul will foul at the end to chase the game against a "rival." Free throws will matter here folks.
Quote from: MuggsyB on January 28, 2023, 07:08:15 AM
DId anyone watch the DePaul win over X? What do we need to eliminate? Ty.
Make shots. Not only was Boum bad, Xavier missed double digit point blank shots.
Quote from: tower912 on January 28, 2023, 07:41:09 AM
Make shots. Not only was Boum bad, Xavier missed double digit point blank shots.
Sounds similar to how we lost to X.
Even ESPN considers this a home game for Marquette. ;D
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 28, 2023, 08:32:24 AM
Even ESPN considers this a home game for Marquette. ;D
I really hope we smother them early pbiflyer. I don't see any issues assuming we play our game and share the ball.
I think MU covers and the game goes under. That said, I would not play the game or the under unless willing to sweat it out. I think MU will cover a nice portion of the game, but you never know in the last few minutes on who will be on the court or silly fouls. MU is 10+ better team than DePaul regardless of the home team.
Agree with those who say that's a lot of points, and that we could control the whole game (and dominate lots of it) and still not end up covering. I think I'd be nervous the whole game with a line like that.
Dr. V: Not that it's necessary, but it wouldn't hurt to fix the subject line to show -9.5 (instead of -9,5), as it was a little confusing at first. Also, what happened in past MU-DePaul games matters 0.00% as to what will happen today.
The only thing you all are gambling with is your life of eternal damnation
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 28, 2023, 09:13:39 AM
The only thing you all are gambling with is your life of eternal damnation
It's called deathbed repentance.
Quote from: MU82 on January 28, 2023, 09:08:42 AM
Agree with those who say that's a lot of points, and that we could control the whole game (and dominate lots of it) and still not end up covering. I think I'd be nervous the whole game with a line like that.
Dr. V: Not that it's necessary, but it wouldn't hurt to fix the subject line to show -9.5 (instead of -9,5), as it was a little confusing at first. Also, what happened in past MU-DePaul games matters 0.00% as to what will happen today.
I'm of European decent, so using the commas instead of the decimal point has become a habit.
Changed it because this isn't a European thread, this is America!
I know the past won't matter, but I'd be willing to bet that Shaka uses last years putrid trip to Wintrust as motivation today.
That game was horrendous, it was pure pain.
I specifically remember sitting in those seats thinking to myself "I don't know where the magic has gone, and I don't think this team can get it back."
Up to that point I was expecting Marquette to figure it out and finish strong.
That was then, this is now.
Fu*k 'Em!
Doctor
I 100% believe last year's swoon is going to be a catalyst to a strong finish to the season. Starting with the post game presser after UNC last year, when Shaka had two returning guys at the presser vs. Lewis and Morsell, it stood out that they were already looking ahead.
Last year they likely were not good enough for a run, but the swoon take away any chance of it happening. This year's team is far better equipped to finish off the regular season and go from there.
Quote from: DoctorV on January 28, 2023, 09:29:12 AM
I'm of European decent, so using the commas instead of the decimal point has become a habit.
Changed it because this isn't a European thread, this is America!
Great...can you explain how to bet soccer...because half the time I'm provided with soccer picks I can't figure out wtf they mean.
Creighton -5.5 vs X. What do y'all think of that one?
I like Creighton
Quote from: avid1010 on January 28, 2023, 09:35:28 AM
Great...can you explain how to bet soccer...because half the time I'm provided with soccer picks I can't figure out wtf they mean.
Honestly no I can't, it's like the biggest mystery in the history of the world.
I've only ever bet soccer in big tournaments like the Euro or World Cup at a live betting place in Greece, and I had a lot of success a few summers.
My cousin likes to do the HT/FT double result bet where you pick a draw at half or one team winning, then the opposite team flipping it and winning in final time.
It's a pretty big long shot but I hit that a few times and it was fun.
Otherwise I would just pick the winner.
Soccer betting is rough because of the 3 outcomes- it's hard enough to win a coin flip, let alone hitting a bet with three possible outcomes.
Quote from: Goose on January 28, 2023, 09:34:52 AM
Doctor
I 100% believe last year's swoon is going to be a catalyst to a strong finish to the season. Starting with the post game presser after UNC last year, when Shaka had two returning guys at the presser vs. Lewis and Morsell, it stood out that they were already looking ahead.
Last year they likely were not good enough for a run, but the swoon take away any chance of it happening. This year's team is far better equipped to finish off the regular season and go from there.
Shaka's comments to Jen Lada this week were great, and listening to the Nevada Smith interview on The Golden Break made it clear the players who they believe led to that breakdown last year are no longer on the team. I'm confident going into February.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 28, 2023, 09:59:10 AM
Shaka's comments to Jen Lada this week were great, and listening to the Nevada Smith interview on The Golden Break made it clear the players who they believe led to that breakdown last year are no longer on the team. I'm confident going into February.
Think I missed that one- which thread was it under?
Quote from: DoctorV on January 28, 2023, 10:03:25 AM
Think I missed that one- which thread was it under?
Shaka was on the Marquette Basketball Hour.
Nevada was here: https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=64108.0
He mentions a couple now-departed players as guys who were hunting their shots. It's a little between the lines, but not that much between the lines.
I thought I wanted Creighton to win today but I'm starting to think X winning won't the worst thing for Marquette.
That would more or less knock Creighton right out of the race, and we still have X at home in a couple weeks.
Kansas +2.5
Byu +6.5
Marquette -9.5
Free money folks
Quote from: panda on January 28, 2023, 11:55:42 AM
Kansas +2.5
Byu +6.5
Marquette -9.5
Free money folks
100% agree on the Kansas bet. Putting $100 on that
I'm also taking bama -5.5 (only getting $20 on this)
Staying away from MU.
Quote from: fjm on January 28, 2023, 12:32:16 PM
100% agree on the Kansas bet. Putting $100 on that
I'm also taking bama -5.5 (only getting $20 on this)
Staying away from MU.
I like o 146 in the bama game
S Jones in cast on wrist
Quote from: JakeBarnes on January 28, 2023, 12:52:47 PM
S Jones in cast on wrist
No. Cast is for broken bones.
Wrist splint/sleeve. Likely a sprain at best.
Quote from: panda on January 28, 2023, 12:35:01 PM
I like o 146 in the bama game
Welp. If I jinxed bama then good F em. But gonna lose a small bit there.
Duquense -2.5 alternate line +100
Took MU -11.5 right before half for +205. I like the way they play in the second half. Hope they can keep it up.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on January 28, 2023, 02:27:24 PM
Took MU -11.5 right before half for +205. I like the way they play in the second half. Hope they can keep it up.
Great call!
Hit on this parlay and MU -4.5 today when they went down 29-26. I was hesitant to lay 9 points. Turns out I shouldn't have been. But all's well that ends well.
We covered. 8-)
Quote from: panda on January 28, 2023, 11:55:42 AM
Kansas +2.5
Byu +6.5
Marquette -9.5
Free money folks
🔒🔒
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 29, 2023, 12:14:15 PM
Good call Panda...did you parlay that action?
Always :-)
I like to put in a few slips at one or two units each and then parlay my favorites with a 1/4 or 1/2 unit. Makes it a little sweeter if you have a great day .