Looking quickly at the numbers, it seems MU's attendance is down about 15%. In comparison, Wisconsin's is down about 3%. UWM seems to be up. Covid can account for a some of the problem, but certainly not all.
Shaka's a big name and I would have thought it would provide a boost in interest.
So what's the main problem? Wojo killed the program? Game times? People don't want to go downtown?
Suspect it is caused in part by Wojo running it down. Will take a while to get it back up. Another fallout from the disastrous Wojo-Dukiet regime.
Solid trolling. We'll see who takes the bait.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 19, 2022, 02:32:47 PM
Suspect it is caused in part by Wojo running it down. Will take a while to get it back up. Another fallout from the disastrous Wojo-Dukiet regime.
I blame the fair weather fans
Violents onn kampuss, oona?
Biden's fault
Most likely a combination of factors. Covid, sure but we also had a terrible season last year. Attendance tends to be affected by a combination of previous year results and future expectations (picked 9th this year). Most of the tickets sold are to STHs and given those two factors I think a lot of people didn't buy or reduced their number. Get a tourney win/run and watch the numbers jump next year.
UWM is up because a handful of Baldwin's family and friends come to see him sit on the bench.
A number of reasons such as:
-all games are on tv
-feeling effects of apathy in the program
-no badger home game this year
-some odd game times (ucla changed to 8pm, nova 9pm)
-bucks are really good (more casual fans going to bucks games as a result)
Attendance will be a delayed effect. I expect it to go up next year back to normal levels. We can revisit it then.
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 19, 2022, 03:26:17 PM
A number of reasons such as:
-all games are on tv
-feeling effects of apathy in the program
-no badger home game this year
-some odd game times (ucla changed to 8pm, nova 9pm)
-bucks are really good (more casual fans going to bucks games as a result)
Attendance will be a delayed effect. I expect it to go up next year back to normal levels. We can revisit it then.
Have to disagree. It's pretty obvious we made the wrong choice in head coach. Woke activism has infiltrated Marquette and the lack of talent brought in by Shaka is damning. Marquette basketball is built on a legacy of hard work and fundamental basketball. The best days of Marquette included a coach who believed in kids towing the line socially and academically. Individualism and flamboyance was frowned upon and kids knew their place. The program was built by kids like Brad Davison and we currently lack anyone like that. One wonders what attendance would look like if we had more gym rats and kids who quoted the Bible on social media. Things are pretty sad at the moment.
Next Saturday will be close to a sell out is my guess.
Covid is obviously a contributing factor.
COVID.
Fair weather fans.
Every game on TV.
Odd weeknight start times. Easier to watch on TV.
Attendance is down most places.
Internet trolls.
I would go to games if Shaka would tuck his shirt in.
Quote from: tower912 on February 19, 2022, 03:50:58 PM
COVID.
Fair weather fans.
Every game on TV.
Odd weeknight start times. Easier to watch on TV.
Attendance is down most places.
Internet trolls.
I think Covid showed that watching the games on TV was much less expensive and more convenient than going to actual games. I went to one game this year as a guest of my friend. I enjoyed being at the game, but not enough to make me want to spend money and time to go back to seeing games in person.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 19, 2022, 03:56:00 PM
I would go to games if Shaka would tuck his shirt in.
And navy or gold, instead of baby blue.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 19, 2022, 03:32:00 PM
Have to disagree. It's pretty obvious we made the wrong choice in head coach. Woke activism has infiltrated Marquette and the lack of talent brought in by Shaka is damning. Marquette basketball is built on a legacy of hard work and fundamental basketball. The best days of Marquette included a coach who believed in kids towing the line socially and academically. Individualism and flamboyance was frowned upon and kids knew their place. The program was built by kids like Brad Davison and we currently lack anyone like that. One wonders what attendance would look like if we had more gym rats and kids who quoted the Bible on social media. Things are pretty sad at the moment.
Markus Howard? He was the face of a discriminatory organization.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 19, 2022, 04:37:14 PM
Markus Howard? He was the face of a discriminatory organization.
Yup. Marquette needs kids who shut up and dribble.
This guy is an imposter. Everyone knows Shaka has no hair on his head.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on February 19, 2022, 02:25:12 PM
Looking quickly at the numbers, it seems MU's attendance is down about 15%. In comparison, Wisconsin's is down about 3%. UWM seems to be up. Covid can account for a some of the problem, but certainly not all.
Shaka's a big name and I would have thought it would provide a boost in interest.
So what's the main problem? Wojo killed the program? Game times? People don't want to go downtown?
Why is it so quiet in the Kohl Hole that the media is writing about it?
Add it up.
Nothing I can say when I'm in your thighs
Quote from: Clarissa on February 19, 2022, 03:32:41 PM
Next Saturday will be close to a sell out is my guess.
About 50 tickets left.
Gone Daddy Gone
Covid certainly plays a part, but the answer is much easier. Win consistently and the numbers will go up.
Just win baby.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on February 19, 2022, 05:52:43 PM
About 50 tickets left.
Only one pair left in sec 114 last row.....otherwise all singles.
No tickets in upper deck at all.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 19, 2022, 05:11:30 PM
Why is it so quiet in the Kohl Hole that the media is writing about it?
The Kohl Center was a library during the Rutgers game, even in crunch time. It was weird. I think masks have a lot to do with it. I'm surprised at "mask over nose" participation at MU games. It has to be 95%+. I think people are much less inclined to yell when they have a mask on.
Quote from: CountryRoads on February 19, 2022, 07:04:49 PM
The Kohl Center was a library during the Rutgers game, even in crunch time. It was weird. I think masks have a lot to do with it. I'm surprised at "mask over nose" participation at MU games. It has to be 95%+. I think people are much less inclined to yell when they have a mask on.
i was just there. when leaving sure its 95% in seats its maybe half. time to get rid of it anyways.
The Great Retirement. The Vesties all moved to Vero Beach.
The problem is Uncle Rico has too many nieces and nephews who don't understand his dry humor and opt for the movies instead. I sincerely hope this forum can find a reasonable way to muzzle this man quickly and find and antidote to similar behavior before reprobates like this ruin the entire program. I'm kidding, of course. Jeeze. Go watch the corn hole semi-finals on ESPN2
Clearly every game would have sold out if Porter Moser had been hired.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 19, 2022, 07:33:12 PM
Clearly every game would have sold out if Porter Moser had been hired.
We'd average more than capacity
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 19, 2022, 05:17:25 PM
Violent Femmes fault
Quote from: tower912 on February 19, 2022, 05:18:48 PM
Add it up.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 19, 2022, 05:21:19 PM
Nothing I can say when I'm in your thighs
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 19, 2022, 05:22:39 PM
Kiss off
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 19, 2022, 05:54:58 PM
Gone Daddy Gone
Me and Gordon, 2012.
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Quote from: mug644 on February 19, 2022, 08:24:15 PM
Me and Gordon, 2012.
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Lol. This pic is something.
Quote from: Clarissa on February 19, 2022, 08:33:33 PM
Lol. This pic is something.
Neither of us looked as good as we did in the mid-80s when he was rocking and I was at MU.
The Violent Femmes
They bring all their equipment on the bus
And you can't f*ck with the Violent Femmes
You can not f*ck with this band!
Quote from: mug644 on February 19, 2022, 08:36:09 PM
Neither of us looked as good as we did in the mid-80s when he was rocking and I was at MU.
Love it
I need to add this video of Gordon playing with the Lost Bayou Ramblers who he performed with when I met him. Only because he looks like a chunky Tom Crean. Ha.
https://youtu.be/aHOPJZ3EilU (https://youtu.be/aHOPJZ3EilU)
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 19, 2022, 07:14:33 PM
The Great Retirement. The Vesties all moved to Vero Beach.
Vero Beach is for old sick Cardinals fans
COVID is the reason. A lot of our lower bowl seats are owned by long time season ticket holders/bigger donors, who also tend to be 60+. Many in the 70+ are terrified of Covid, which ultimately is too bad because many in the medical community believe Covid will never go away - just continue to weaken and become similar to influenza. Booster shots will continue to be administered and mitigate risk. The question is if those in higher risk groups will ultimately feel safe enough to attend.
One COVID impact not mentioned, which has been a factor for me missing a few games - usually I work in downtown MKE, but we've been at home since March 2020 - so instead of being downtown already for weeknight home games, now we have to decide if we want to make the drive downtown. We've made almost every game but did pass on a couple of the later starts.
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 19, 2022, 09:04:07 PM
Vero Beach is for old sick Cardinals fans
We call it Vero Bleach
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 19, 2022, 09:51:35 PM
COVID is the reason. A lot of our lower bowl seats are owned by long time season ticket holders/bigger donors, who also tend to be 60+. Many in the 70+ are terrified of Covid, which ultimately is too bad because many in the medical community believe Covid will never go away - just continue to weaken and become similar to influenza. Booster shots will continue to be administered and mitigate risk. The question is if those in higher risk groups will ultimately feel safe enough to attend.
Frankly mostly Shaka's fault for calling team to play with violence. Keeps older fans away....
COVID is certainly a factor. Also, attendance tends to trail performance by a year.
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 20, 2022, 09:37:22 AM
Frankly mostly Shaka's fault for calling team to play with violence. Keeps older fans away....
Well done.
Technically our attendance rose by a lot.
Quote from: jfp61 on February 20, 2022, 09:50:12 AM
Technically our attendance rose by a lot.
Yeah, wasn't it 0 during a point of Woj's tenure
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 19, 2022, 11:34:30 PM
We call it Vero Bleach
It gets in your veins and you never want to leave.
Quote from: Newsdreams on February 19, 2022, 09:04:07 PM
Vero Beach is for old sick Cardinals fans
They're drawn by the Old Country Buffet. Hard to pass up the early "dining" special.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 20, 2022, 10:58:30 AM
They're drawn by the Old Country Buffet. Hard to pass up the early "dining" special.
So true! And then they try denying and say they've never heard of such buffet.
I went downtown ONCE this year and had to immediately leave. There was a sign flashing the word VIOLENCE and I could see the young people around looked like ANTIFA so I grabbed my coat and left the Fiserv.
Then I got reversed car jacked — some thug with the word Valet on his coat brought me my car but he demanded ransom for it. I gave him a $5 and he smiled at me strangely and said Thank you but I could have sworn he said he was demanding I apologize for my white privilege. You call that the Wisconsin Club? More like the California Club.
Quote from: tower912 on February 20, 2022, 10:50:42 AM
It gets in your veins and you never want to leave.
Strongly recommended by at least one "leader" as a Covid preventative.
If they win games people will be there. That simple.
The beginning of the year was solid with new life because of Shaka.
Attendance hit a lull when students went home for break and has been fairly decent since they returned.
If they win people will be there. If they continue to slip late in seasons you'll see it affect attendance.
Saturday being National Marquette Day will help inflate the numbers a little bit!
People are afraid of all the violence......
in the post game handshake line.
Big East attendance, 2021-22 vs. 2019-20:
Connecticut: +9%
Xavier: -2%
Providence: -5%
Creighton: -5%
Butler: -12%
Marquette: -13%
Villanova: -17%
Seton Hall -18%
St. John's: -19%
Georgetown: -30%
DePaul: -41%
Connecticut is celebrating being back in the Big East.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 21, 2022, 08:20:22 AM
Big East attendance, 2021-22 vs. 2019-20:
Connecticut: +9%
Xavier: -2%
Providence: -5%
Creighton: -5%
Butler: -12%
Marquette: -13%
Villanova: -17%
Seton Hall -18%
St. John's: -19%
Georgetown: -30%
DePaul: -41%
We know the Nova numbers are skewed by them playing so many games at Finneran this season. Perhaps similar is true for SH and St.J?
Frankly, I don't consider a 13% decline -- coming a year after both Covid and a 13-win season -- to be either surprising or all that bad.
DePaul's numbers aren't that bad. A 41% decline is probably only like 500 per game. No big deal.
DePaul hasn't hosted Marquette yet. That game will put them right back to where everyone else is with the added 3000 MU fans.
Georgetown's -30% still has a game this Thursday night hosting DePaul.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 21, 2022, 10:38:54 AM
Georgetown's -30% still has a game this Thursday night hosting DePaul.
That figures to be a real barn-burner!
Quote from: MU82 on February 21, 2022, 08:45:19 AM
We know the Nova numbers are skewed by them playing so many games at Finneran this season. Perhaps similar is true for SH and St.J?
Frankly, I don't consider a 13% decline -- coming a year after both Covid and a 13-win season -- to be either surprising or all that bad.
I agree. Villanova played only three games at Well Fargo Center. Seton Hall & Georgetown had to move re-scheduled games to campus which messes with the average.
There seemed to a be a lot of games played over the semester break, and semester break was extended beyond the Xavier game. That's 6 BE games out of 10! I wouldn't read too much in to it beyond quirky scheduling. The energy for the last few home games has been great and very enjoyable.
Looking forward to the thread in February, 2023: "Why has MU's attendance increased so drastically?"