Just threw down a double espresso so I have a bit more energy today!!! Let's go now!!. Get out of the blocks quickly, tickle the twine from distance, get to the line with regularity, snare every rebound and loose ball, defend Davis and Floppy, attack the paint with power and authority, and play poised and focused hoops for 40 mins.
Phew. I was afraid you were going to be lethargic
Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2021, 11:25:40 AM
Phew. I was afraid you were going to be lethargic
Tower, you desperately need to kick up your energy!!
I went with 3 shots of espresso for good measure.
Let's Go Warriors!
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 11:27:35 AM
Tower, you desperately need to kick up your energy!!
I'll try to stay awake.
Hope somebody sets a massive pick on the nut punching nympho, knocking him into the third row and next week.
Going small with Kam starting.
Whisky's unis are hideous.
Announcers aren't on site.
Kava for me, settle the nerves. This should be a great game with a win for MU at the end.
Good grief, how late was that call?
nice white ugly shoes clashing with black unis. bs
How are the Badgers' jerseys legal? The numbers are the exact same color as the jersey.
lewis found the soft rims already
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on December 04, 2021, 11:40:25 AM
How are the Badgers' jerseys legal? The numbers are the exact same color as the jersey.
They may be legal, but they are ugly as sin.
Floppy
Those UW jerseys are a psychological horror. Flopison with a flop not even 3 minutes into the game.
Way too early double there by Kolek.
Mistaking pace for bad shots in the half court right now.
Already getting hosed by the homer refs.
Trying to match Wisco rhythm shots with jacked up shots.
Got catch and shoot
Already gave up two potential dunks due to lazy defense
cya next half kur
I will always hate mic'd rims
Fk. Inexcusable trans D after a make. Kur has to let that go. We really need to get to the line or the 3-Ball cooking.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 11:44:43 AM
I will always hate mic'd rims
More or less than Christmas music?
Badgers leading on the scoreboard and definitely have better hair .
We can't do anything about the hair , but let's take advantage of these open looks we are getting.
Know Shaka likes the open 3 but all our points are in the paint. Think we should try that more
LOL. "1941 Nat Champions".
I'll never understand not recruiting guys that can shoot.
Going to have to dominate the paint to have any chance
No foul there!!??
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 11:48:15 AM
I'll never understand not recruiting guys that can shoot.
Going to have to dominate the paint to have any chance
lol
Crowd not really into the game so far
Jop has got a stroke
Quote from: Herman Cain on December 04, 2021, 11:46:38 AM
Badgers leading on the scoreboard and definitely have better hair .
We can't do anything about the hair , but let's take advantage of these open looks we are getting.
Joplin Oso and Mitchell upped our hair and our score
Thatta boy DJop!!
Fouls are becoming a concern.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
No foul there!!??
Obvious bump foul totally ignored by the homer refs. The hose job will continue.
waiting to see if badgers miss a layup. if they do call a late whistle on us
Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2021, 11:46:06 AM
More or less than Christmas music?
;D ;D ;D
I like Christmas music in a certain window. Mic'd rims always suck
Tyler with some beautiful finds.
Let's go now!! Two sweet dimes by Kolek.
Lewis has played selfishly so far.
MU's press is one of the worst in college basketball
Daryl gotta see Jop trailing there
Flopper denied
BAM!!! O-MAX!!
Why do players not follow their shots anymore?
They are letting them play. Something I never thought I'd say during a MU-UW game in Madison
Thats a hilarious timeout by Gard to make sure the game doesn't get too exciting.
Stevie Telegraphed that drive a bit much
Think we are doing a good job of making Wisco go a little more at our pace though.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 11:53:36 AM
MU's press is one of the worst in college basketball
And it wont work against these guys.
Quote from: Daniel on December 04, 2021, 11:57:25 AM
Why do players not follow their shots anymore?
OMax not only didn't follow his shot, he stood there and posed with his arm raised for 2-3 seconds
Quote from: willie warrior on December 04, 2021, 11:51:29 AM
Obvious bump foul totally ignored by the homer refs. The hose job will continue.
Whining willie weturns
Played straight through the under 12 time out.
Man....so many missed opportunities. The D is decent as is the D glass. Offensively we're discombobulated. Use the shot fake at the rim. Oso has been solid. It's time to hit some WIDE OPEN SHOTS. Should be. up around 8.
Wahl is another Bucky pumk.
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 04, 2021, 11:53:19 AM
Lewis has played selfishly so far.
Hasn't he been sitting for awhile with Joplin in instead?
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 11:53:36 AM
MU's press is one of the worst in college basketball
Why are you so negative? We're winning outright as 6.5 point underdogs. We're 7-1 with multiple wins nobody expected.
Who hurt you?
Quote from: willie warrior on December 04, 2021, 11:59:21 AM
Wahl is another Bucky pumk.
Apparently NCAA doesn't have the same taunting rule as NFL
Don't understand how anyone can be unhappy with the first 25% so far. After the first couple minutes, pace and flow really evolved into a game we win at least half the time.
Embarrassingly negative game thread as usual. Guess nobody will be happy until we are annihilating opponents a la Gonzaga in the WAC.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 11:59:46 AM
Why are you so negative? We're winning outright as 6.5 point underdogs. We're 7-1 with multiple wins nobody expected.
Who hurt you?
You really think MU's press is effective?
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 11:59:13 AM
Man....so many missed opportunities. The D Iis decent as is the D glass. Offensively we're discombobulated. Use the shot fake at the rim. Oso has been solid. It's time to hit some WIDE OPEN SHOTS. Should be. up around 8.
Oso obviously needs a bit more strength as well.
But if his hands also improve. Boy is he gonna be tough to stop
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 11:59:46 AM
Why are you so negative? We're winning outright as 6.5 point underdogs. We're 7-1 with multiple wins nobody expected.
Who hurt you?
NLW has a severe melanin allergy
We are getting great shots
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:00:54 PM
You really think MU's press is effective?
Yes. If not in hard stats (steals) in the mental and physical toll it takes on teams over the course of a game.
MU does a good job of getting wide open 3 attempts and the shots aren't even close.
4 guards and Lewis
Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2021, 12:02:32 PM
4 guards and Lewis
Very interesting lineup.
Getting Greg and Ellis some run.
C'mon Greg, that's what we pay you for
This is the lightest orange basketball I've ever seen since the balls we used to use in the driveway when they had no grip left
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Yes. If not in hard stats (steals) in the mental and physical toll it takes on teams over the course of a game.
Ding ding ding. Not about steals, about pace. The presssure forced UW out of its rythym and allowed us to go on that run.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:02:14 PM
MU does a good job of getting wide open 3 attempts and the shots aren't even close.
This isn't the NBA. There are tradeoffs you have to live with. How many times have you cried yourself to sleep after a win this year.
Troll.
We are doing ok here. Need some open shots to fall or go inside again. But D has been decent. Let's Go Marquette!
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:02:14 PM
MU does a good job of getting wide open 3 attempts and the shots aren't even close.
The floodgates could open once someone knocks a few down. You can't ask for a better look than these corner threes. Nerves? I don't get it. We should be splashing these open shots all over the place. But we have zero FT's this far.
Quote from: MUBurrow on December 04, 2021, 12:03:57 PM
Ding ding ding. Not about steals, about pace. The presssure forced UW out of its rythym and allowed us to go on that run.
Yes many of UW's shot attempts have been rushed and contested. They don't seem prepared.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 12:04:50 PM
The floodgates could open once someone knocks a few down. You can't ask for a better look than these corner threes. Nerves? I don't get it. We should be splashing these open shots all over the place. But we have zero FT's this far.
I've been told FTs no matta
How about a shot fake??
LOL, Greg Gard "dancing"
Hell of a move by Justin
Good move there by JLew.
These refs will never call a foul on whisky underneath our basket when we shoot.
Having all our fouls result in free throws is less than ideal
Man, Johnny Davis....
Oso was 4-5' from the 3pt line when he caught the ball and dunked without dribbling or traveling
Finally!! Let's go now!!
Somebody tell elliot that when shooting the ball needs to go down through the hoop. Not up from underneath.
Gotta stop Davis
Hell of a play between Justin and Oso. Let's go.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 04, 2021, 12:11:14 PM
Somebody tell elliot that when shooting the ball needs to go down through the hoop. Not up from underneath.
You're truly a joy.
YES!!! OSO!!! And we finally get a free throw.
Holy cow. The refs did call one
This could mean something
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 12:12:42 PM
YES!!! OSO!!! And we finally get a free throw.
I was thinking the same thing. Aren't we something like top 10 in getting to the FT line in the nation, but first FT right now.
Light it up,Osa
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on December 04, 2021, 12:12:28 PM
Gotta stop Davis
Hell of a play between Justin and Oso. Let's go.
If no one else goes off we're in great position to win this game. Davis is a terrific player.
Oso has played fantastic.
I may regret saying this but the Badgers are sh!t without Davis. He's very good.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 12:14:23 PM
If no one else goes off we're in great position to win this game. Davis is a terrific player.
He should go pro. At half time.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 12:14:23 PM
If no one else goes off we're in great position to win this game. Davis is a terrific player.
We need to see some of these wide open 3's go in.
Fouls could become an issue but really like how we are playing right now.
OSO gif won't load
That's it JLew!! Go with force and power.
"Skaka's Not Smart" Really, you stayed up all last night knowing you'd be in the front row on TV and that's the best you could do?
Huge shot by Davison and then the MU turnover
How many generic traditionals does Wisconsin have stuffed on the bench?
MU dying at the end of the half
Brutal stretch there.
Need a quick run to end half
Easy help defense by UW leads to obvious steal. No help defense by MU leads to easy layup
Lewis looking frustrated
Osa needs a break. I guess OMP would be the third big today.
Good time-out. Sloppy. Stop over-dribbling East/West. Move the rock. That was a self-inflicted 7 point swing.
Johnny Davis.
My God.
Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2021, 12:20:22 PM
Osa needs a break. I guess OMP would be the third big today.
Oops. Way to go Osa
SOB, Lewis couldn't play better defense against Davis
Chance to go up 5, Lewis misses FT, ball puncher hits prayer 3 then we turn it over.
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 04, 2021, 12:21:33 PM
SOB, Lewis couldn't play better defense against Davis
That's too good.
Mitchell isn't very good
Stevie. Cmon
That was a really bad last 2 minutes by MU.
Bad end to half but overall down 3 at half is fine.
Try and limit Davis a bit. Make a few of the open 3s. Got a chance
Morsell should have kept it until the end there. Oh well. They hung in there for a half.
Regardless of how you play in the first half, you need to play a good second half to win unless you are up 20.
Should have had a high ball screen there at the end to initiate the play.
Hopefully, MU's tendency to play much better 2nd halves means a big victory today.
JLew has to relax and let it come,and where is Kur?
Quote from: MattyWarrior on December 04, 2021, 12:24:02 PM
JLew has to relax and let it come,and where is Kur?
Kur had two early fouls
Quote from: MattyWarrior on December 04, 2021, 12:24:02 PM
JLew has to relax and let it come,and where is Kur?
2 fouls on Kur kept him on the bench
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:23:31 PM
Why can't Mitchell dribble?
Why is every post of yours absurdly negative?
We all know but let's see you admit it.
Terrible last play there but we have come from behind before.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:23:31 PM
Why can't Mitchell dribble?
Why can't you come up with an intelligent take?
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 04, 2021, 12:23:51 PM
Hopefully, MU's tendency to play much better 2nd halves means a big victory today.
So.... hopefully the pace is taking a toll on Wiscy.
Decent half with an ugly finish. Shaka needs to get Lewis to realize that Marques Haynes he's not.
Quote from: tower912 on December 04, 2021, 12:24:57 PM
So.... hopefully the pace is taking a toll on Wiscy.
. One can hope
5 quick points:
1) We're in solid shape to win this game
2) The D and D-Glass have been pretty good.
3) Tip your cap to Davis.
4) 8 turns is inexcusable and have been self-inflicted.
5) We desperately need one of our top three guards to score the ball and hit some open looks.
* Give Oso a lot of credit.
Morsell will take over in the 2nd half.
Johnny Davis is the best player on the floor. Need our stars to step up. MU is winning the boards so far.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 12:26:26 PM
Morsell will take over in the 2nd half.
Really?
When was the last dominant half Morsell had?
He's been AWOL for a while after the nice start to the season
Up four three minutes to go.
Kolek off foot turnover
Lewis turnover
Then Mitchell turnover at shot clock.
MU had 20 turnovers last two games, 8 today. Whisky has three. Not good.
Greg Elliott came in, missed wide open three, lost Davis for a three made, then missed a layup by putting it almost thru the basket's underside. He was soon after benched.
Surprised close considering MU jacking up threes, but that has been a Shaka style. Hope some drop and limit turnovers.
Quote from: nyg on December 04, 2021, 12:28:06 PM
Up four three minutes to go.
Kolek off foot turnover
Lewis turnover
Then Mitchell turnover at shot clock.
MU had 20 turnovers last two games, 8 today. Whisky has three. Not good.
Greg Elliott came in, missed wide open three, lost Davis for a three made, then missed a layup by putting it almost thru the basket's underside. He was soon after benched.
Surprised close considering MU jacking up threes, but that has been a Shaka style. Hope some drop and limit turnovers.
Close in spite of turnovers. I'll take it. Wear em down in the second half and hit some shots
They don't have a guy who can go shot for shot with Davis. That's what worries me in a close game. And the FT line.
They've played well enough, but the lapses in focus have been at the worst times. Not optimistic, but would love to be wrong.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 12:25:47 PM
5 quick points:
1) We're in solid shape to win this game
2) The D and D-Glass have been pretty good.
3) Tip your cap to Davis.
4) 8 turns is inexcusable and have been self-inflicted.
5) We desperately need one of our top three guards to score the ball and hit some open looks.
* Give Oso a lot of credit.
These are good takes. Keep playing D and cut down on the TOs and we will be fine.
Quote from: Boston Warrior on December 04, 2021, 12:27:47 PM
Johnny Davis is the best player on the floor. Need our stars to step up. MU is winning the boards so far.
Best player by a grand canyon size margin.
Even as a freshman, he never looked panicked and knew what he was doing.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:27:52 PM
Really?
When was the last dominant half Morsell had?
He's been AWOL for a while after the nice start to the season
Literally our last game.
Does it hurt your little internet ego to admit you were wrong about Shaka (and only 8 games in no less!)
Awwww we're all cwying for u :(
We are keeping it close with a nationally ranked team on their floor
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 12:29:41 PM
Literally our last game.
Does it hurt your little internet ego to admit you were wrong about Shaka (and only 8 games in no less!)
Awwww we're all cwying for u :(
No kidding, he started on a personal 7-0 run coming out of halftime in the last game
Quote from: chicagowarrior on December 04, 2021, 12:32:27 PM
We are keeping it close with a nationally ranked team on their floor
Take that positivity out of here 😉
Quote from: chicagowarrior on December 04, 2021, 12:32:27 PM
We are keeping it close with a nationally ranked team on their floor
Stop being reasonable.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 12:29:41 PM
Literally our last game.
Does it hurt your little internet ego to admit you were wrong about Shaka (and only 8 games in no less!)
Awwww we're all cwying for u :(
MU beat one good team and then a bunch of cupcakes. Better than losing to bad teams, but nothing to get excited about.
Let's see what Shaka comes up with at half. Maybe he can suit someone up who can actually shoot the basketball?
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:34:14 PM
MU beat one good team and then a bunch of cupcakes. Better than losing to bad teams, but nothing to get excited about.
Let's see what Shaka comes up with at half. Maybe he can suit someone up who can actually shoot the basketball?
Love the goalpost shift. Honestly, why don't you just go root for someone else if your University and it's coach disgust you so much?
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 12:29:24 PM
These are good takes. Keep playing D and cut down on the TOs and we will be fnie.
Wisconsin is only shooting 35% and is up three which is somewhat concerning. I actually don't mind Davis having a big game if we limit the rest of their team. But we're going to have to find a way to hit some open shots and get to the FT line more. Personally, I think we're more talented and that's not because I'm biased. We desperately need Morsell, Jones, or Kolek to score the ball in the 2nd half.
Quote from: MUEng92 on December 04, 2021, 12:32:47 PM
No kidding, he started on a personal 7-0 run coming out of halftime in the last game
You think a 7-0 run against a dreadful cupcake is notable? If that floats your boat, go for it, I guess.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:34:14 PM
MU beat one good team and then a bunch of cupcakes. Better than losing to bad teams, but nothing to get excited about.
Let's see what Shaka comes up with at half. Maybe he can suit someone up who can actually shoot the basketball?
Awwww sorry to hear how sad you are about it all, guy!
I'll tell the team to start making some 3s - just for you!
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 12:26:26 PM
Morsell will take over in the 2nd half.
Rather hope he can lock Davis down second half. OSO / Lewis taking over on offense with some 3's falling would lead us to a win.
One issue MU had is the post looks MU got were often too deep, the mid range shot is there if MU continues to look for it.
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 04, 2021, 12:36:37 PM
Rather hope he can lock Davis down second half. OSO / Lewis taking over on offense with some 3's falling would lead us to a win.
Defense falls under the phrase "taking over" in my lexicon.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:34:14 PM
MU beat one good team and then a bunch of cupcakes. Better than losing to bad teams, but nothing to get excited about.
Let's see what Shaka comes up with at half. Maybe he can suit someone up who can actually shoot the basketball?
I don't think this is fair. We beat three pretty good teams.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 12:35:38 PM
Love the goalpost shift. Honestly, why don't you just go root for someone else if your University and it's coach disgust you so much?
No goalpost shift. Many games vs non-cupcakes left to be played.
Nothing has happened yet to change my opinion that he wasn't a good hire.
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 04, 2021, 12:23:10 PM
Morsell should have kept it until the end there. Oh well. They hung in there for a half.
Regardless of how you play in the first half, you need to play a good second half to win unless you are up 20.
This has also been a second half team all year
Morsell with two good moves but nothing to show for it
Wow, great pass.
KURRRRR!!!!!
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:38:33 PM
No goalpost shift. Many games vs non-cupcakes left to be played.
Nothing has happened yet to change my opinion that he wasn't a good hire.
Huge goalpost shift:
1. You asked "when was the last time Morsell took over in a second half"
2. I responded "last game" in which he had a 7-0 run
3. You aren't accepting that response because it was a cupcake - even though you had no such caveat in your original post
You lose.
BAM!!! DM!!! Let's go now!!
WOW JLew
Wow JL.
KABOOM!!!
Our fouls are a killer.
Ugh. Bad defense and unlucky bounces don't help
Mental mistakes are really hurting us. Very unfortunate.
After literally DECADES of flopping and whining for calls, how do refs still fall for the Badgers crap?
brutal near steal but a 3
Time for Lewis to take over.
Also, this pace absolutely favors Marquette over the balance of the half
Also, Davis is getting a star whistle and a half. Dude gets a call whenever he gets bumped in a game thats mostly letting them play
Fouls will be an issue.
UW has figured out the press.
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 12:44:30 PM
After literally DECADES of flopping and whining for calls, how do refs still fall for the Badgers crap?
Yeah, the 2nd half has started out with the officials calling everything against MU, and swallowing their whistle when the badgers defend.
I think I might get Joplin in there.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:38:33 PM
No goalpost shift. Many games vs non-cupcakes left to be played.
Nothing has happened yet to change my opinion that he wasn't a good hire.
It's true, Shaka's skin color and social views aren't likely to change.
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 04, 2021, 12:45:19 PM
Fouls will be an issue.
UW has figured out the press.
Killing us right now. Were going to have to attack with far more intelligence. Our guards need to shot-fake.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 12:38:33 PM
No goalpost shift. Many games vs non-cupcakes left to be played.
Nothing has happened yet to change my opinion that he wasn't a good hire.
Nolonger,
What is your problem?
That's fking bshit.
Wall steps into Lewis and guess who gets the call
Can't stand Wisconsin, no fouls on them
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 12:49:03 PM
That's fking bcrap.
Marquette with almost 3x the fouls of Wis? I'm not seeing it.
Absolute travel on Davis. Piases me off.
Quote from: curbina on December 04, 2021, 12:47:40 PM
Nolonger,
What is your problem?
Marquette hired a liberal coach with too much skin color.
we are getting nothing offensively form our guards. morsell has to start finishing some plays or we lose
Quote from: forgetful on December 04, 2021, 12:45:42 PM
Yeah, the 2nd half has started out with the officials calling everything against MU, and swallowing their whistle when the badgers defend.
Right on cue. Wahl literally stepped into Lewis and jumped off him
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 12:50:29 PM
Absolute travel on Davis. Piases me off.
Like I said, he's very good, but he's already getting a superstar whistle
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 12:50:09 PM
Marquette with almost 3x the fouls of Wis? I'm not seeing it.
Outside of the charge on Lewis, MU's fouls have been deserved.
This one is getting away.
Davis is by far the best player on the court.
We just need to shake it off. Critical to stay within range. Davis traveled then hooked.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 12:51:34 PM
Outside of the charge on Lewis, MU's fouls have been deserved.
And do you also believe Wisconsin committed only 4 fouls in the first 25 minutes?
badger beat down seems imminent
Davis with the elbow push off to get the open shot
Pretty sure Davis traveled on both those last two plays. Most definitely more of a travel than the one they called in the beginning against Morsell.
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 12:52:35 PM
And do you also believe Wisconsin committed only 4 fouls in the first 25 minutes?
They aren't reaching. We are.
I guess we have gone back to blaming the ref mode here.
Need a time out. The zebras can't call a hook on JLew and not Davis. Inexcusable.
Call it both ways
Davis travels, pushes off, but sure yet another offensive foul on Lewis
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 12:50:46 PM
Marquette hired a liberal coach with too much skin color.
Shaka is a winner!
keep whining about the refs
Need a cold shooting spell from them to help turn this around
Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 12:54:10 PM
Davis travels, pushes off, but sure yet another offensive foul on Lewis
It was an obvious one on Justin.
mitchell has been just awful
get mitchel out heez
WTF. Why? Get Joplin on the floor.
I love his future
But Stevie is a complete liability on offense right now.
While Davis is unstoppable
Completely lost our composure but we're not beating good teams if we can score from the perimeter.
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 12:52:35 PM
And do you also believe Wisconsin committed only 4 fouls in the first 25 minutes?
At least you can blame the refs if they lose. Happens a lot around here. The refs against MU theory. Most of the calls have been correct.
Blame turnovers, jacking up threes and Davis playing like first team all American.
No choice but to bring back Kuath and Lewis. If they foul out, they foul out.
Over
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 12:54:37 PM
Cool non-answer.
My intent was pretty obvious They are not calling bumps either way. They are calling reaches both ways.
Offensive foul on Wahl
not fun anymore. tip the cap. bucky making everything. MU not so much. keep it ub
nder 15 hopefully
Quote from: nyg on December 04, 2021, 12:57:32 PM
At least you can blame the refs if they lose. Happens a lot around here. The refs against MU theory. Most of the calls have been correct.
Blame turnovers, jacking up threes and Davis playing like first team all American.
Yep yep.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 12:54:10 PM
Davis travels, pushes off, but sure yet another offensive foul on Lewis
Those were huge momentum non calls. The Refs have a home whistle at this point. This will be tough sledding.
Davis is a great player. The badgers really don't have much else. He's really carried them.
I believe that is 4 loose balls/shots where MU played great defense and the ball dropped right to a Badger player leading to points. I'd prefer being pissed at MU not hustling vs not getting any lucky bounces
Certainly tip you cap to Davis but we're not playing close to the level we have shown vs West V and Ole Miss.
It's almost as if calling plays for morsell doesnt work when he settles for midrange fade aways.
Blowing those possession cost them.
Quote from: nyg on December 04, 2021, 12:57:32 PM
At least you can blame the refs if they lose. Happens a lot around here. The refs against MU theory. Most of the calls have been correct.
Blame turnovers, jacking up threes and Davis playing like first team all American.
So many folks around here think pointing out bad officiating is "blaming the refs". There are lots of reasons MU is losing. The refs are one of them. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out.
Our success in this game is in the paint and at the rim. Why not focus on that?
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 12:53:49 PM
They aren't reaching. We are.
I guess we have gone back to blaming the ref mode here.
In all honesty, number 23 (Hepburn) for the Badgers is constantly reaching, often with his left hand completely crossing through and across the ball handler.
1st half was officiated fairly balanced. This half has been a bit of a joke.
But that isn't what is dictating the game right now. Davis is.
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 04, 2021, 12:58:57 PM
Davis is a great player. The badgers really don't have much else. He's really carried them.
Couldn't agree more.
Maybe it's an Opposite Day and the 1st half was MUs good half
Johnny Davis is really good and we can't stop him. 1st legit NBA caliber player the Badgers have had since Kaminsky.
Reffs haven't been good but they're not the reason MU is behind.
Quote from: forgetful on December 04, 2021, 01:00:19 PM
In all honesty, number 23 (Hepburn) for the Badgers is constantly reaching, often with his left hand completely crossing through and across the ball handler.
1st half was officiated fairly balanced. This half has been a bit of a joke.
But that isn't what is dictating the game right now. Davis is.
We also can't make a shot other than JLew attacking the paint.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on December 04, 2021, 12:58:36 PM
Those were huge momentum non calls. The Refs have a home whistle at this point. This will be tough sledding.
Yep. The Lewis call was correct, but the charge before wasn't and they aren't remotely calling it even. I don't think the refs have it out for Marquette, but it is more of the Madison home whistle BS we've seen against any team that enters the Kohl Center.
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:00:04 PM
So many folks around here think pointing out bad officiating is "blaming the refs". There are lots of reasons MU is losing. The refs are one of them. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out.
Well that point of view is wrong. Refs aren't perfect but not close to a reason they are losing.
A well-guarded pull up 2 isn't the best option out of a time out.
Cam not having a good game,have to get points out of a starter
Quote from: nyg on December 04, 2021, 12:57:32 PM
At least you can blame the refs if they lose. Happens a lot around here. The refs against MU theory. Most of the calls have been correct.
Blame turnovers, jacking up threes and Davis playing like first team all American.
Sorry, Davis has hooked and pushed off at least 3 times-no call. Lewis hooks once and he is called. Refs suck!!!
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!!!!!
Davis is on a different level.
We have to make the most of our possessions to have a chance .
Refs have been very good, very consistent.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 01:01:52 PM
Yep. The Lewis call was correct, but the charge before wasn't and they aren't remotely calling it even. I don't think the refs have it out for Marquette, but it is more of the Madison home whistle BS we've seen against any team that enters the Kohl Center.
Nonsense. Refs have been fine. So maddening that people constantly take that point of view here. It just isnt accurate.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:02:34 PM
Sorry, Davis has hooked and pushed off at least 3 times-no call. Lewis hooks once and he is called. Refs suck!!!
k
!!!!!
5 year old throws tantrum
Quote from: Retire0 on December 04, 2021, 01:03:00 PM
Refs have been very good, very consistent.
First half, absolutely agree. Second half, not so much
Quote from: Fred Garvin on December 04, 2021, 01:02:30 PM
Cam not having a good game,have to get points out of a starter
none of our guards have been good, can't make a shot. jones and mitchell look like completely lost freshman
Quote from: GrimmReaper33 on December 04, 2021, 01:01:15 PM
Johnny Davis is really good and we can't stop him. 1st legit NBA caliber player the Badgers have had since Kaminsky.
I think Davis is the first player Wisconsin has had that has a shot to be a good NBA player since Devin Harris.
Just damage control at this point. Don't get blown out.
I get the Zebra bashing but the fact is our guards are 4-23 and Davis has obviously been by far the best player on the floor. We lost our composure for no reason whatsoever but we're not losing because of the refs.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 01:02:12 PM
Well that point of view is wrong. Refs aren't perfect but not close to a reason they are losing.
So blowing that Lewis charge didn't cost MU 2 points? Lewis would have missed the resulting wide open dunk, or if called on WI we would miss all free throws resulting from being in the bonus earlier? Come on. Don't be this dense.
MU is down 13. Some of that is the refs. A lot of it is Davis being LeBron today. Part of it is MU being unable to shoot from the outside.
Terrible lineup
Big shot by Kam. Maybe that wakes us up?
I changed the channel to NBA TV just in time to see Jae Crowder air ball a shot in a game replay of Suns vs. Warriors . Fitting
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:05:14 PM
So blowing that Lewis charge didn't cost MU 2 points? Lewis would have missed the resulting wide open dunk, or if called on WI we would miss all free throws resulting from being in the bonus earlier? Come on. Don't be this dense.
MU is down 13. Some of that is the refs. A lot of it is Davis being LeBron today. Part of it is MU being unable to shoot from the outside.
The problem is you and others expect perfection. They aren't perfect. But people see imperfection only when it doesn't benefit them.
They have been fine.
Turned this one off - first Shaka game I did this. Too bad it had to come against Wisconsin.
Congrats to Johnny Davis for beating MU. Any chance he goes pro this year?
Also, Morsell has disappeared.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 01:07:41 PM
The problem is you and others expect perfection. They aren't perfect. But people see imperfection only when it doesn't benefit them.
They have been fine.
Point out where I expected perfection.
Most frustrating thing for me, MU creates a turnover, immediately then commits a turnover.
This game is far from over. Need to pick up the intensity like that.
Told ya so.
Quote from: PointWarrior on December 04, 2021, 01:07:54 PM
Turned this one off - first Shaka game I did this. Too bad it had to come against Wisconsin.
Congrats to Johnny Davis for beating MU. Any chance he goes pro this year?
Also, Morsell has disappeared.
::)
Pretty sure that was a block by Kam
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:08:12 PM
Point out where I expected perfection.
Because you anecdotally pointed out one bad call.
You aren't very good at this.
When MU makes their shots it give them time to SetUp their defense.
Damn!!! Have to get that reb. Huge swing.
lewis turnover machine
Compare Johnny Davis as a freshman to Stevie Mitchell!
Mitchell is borderline awful. Horrible recruit.
Going to look at the upside of having Justin Lewis for all 4 years
Davis traveled again, shuffled his feet after the pump fake, just like Mitchell did. No call this time.
Wisconsin has six points off that same out of bounds play to the corner 3.
JFC. Get it to 8, can't get the rebound. Davison another prayer 3 and another Lewis TO. Brutal.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 01:09:22 PM
Because you anecdotally pointed out one bad call.
You aren't very good at this.
I pointed that one out because you agreed with it. You and others have this weird problem where you think the refs are completely above reproach and can do no wrong. Pointing out their imperfections acknowledges their humanity. To believe the refs have a 0-point impact on every game is foolish.
Officiating has been fine. WI works for shots they can make. If the comment that Davis is all the Badgers have, it's a poor reflection on Shaka'a defensive approach if a one man team can pound you.
Quote from: PointWarrior on December 04, 2021, 01:07:54 PM
Turned this one off - first Shaka game I did this. Too bad it had to come against Wisconsin.
Congrats to Johnny Davis for beating MU. Any chance he goes pro this year?
Also, Morsell has disappeared.
Davis gone after this year
Morsell again a non-factor when his team needs him.
And this is a freaking SENIOR.
Quote from: GB Warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:10:49 PM
Going to look at the upside of having Justin Lewis for all 4 years
He won't be here next year.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:10:22 PM
Compare Johnny Davis as a freshman to Stevie Mitchell!
Mitchell is borderline awful. Horrible recruit.
You're an idiot.
Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 04, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Wisconsin has six points off that same out of bounds play to the corner 3.
Good point.
Was a nice drive and one by Greg. We need more of that .
This is Shaka, folks.
I think Whisky is shooting 70% in the 2nd half.
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on December 04, 2021, 01:11:30 PM
JFC. Get it to 8, can't get the rebound. Davison another prayer 3 and another Lewis TO. Brutal.
We can call it a prayer, but they run that designed play for him on that shot. He has hit it consistently throughout his career, we just didn't defend it at all.
My daughter was on a 4x200m relay team that made State with Carter Gilmore's older sister. That is the extent of my positive feelings for this Badger roster
Wow, recruiting players who can actually shoot the basketball?
Who knew?
Greg's defense is... not good.
Lewis really looks like he was coached by wojo. That needs to wear off a bit still.
Disappointed in our lack of poise. But remember this is literally our first road game.
Wow. Greg just standing there on that reb. WTF?
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:13:35 PM
This is Shaka, folks.
7-2, 2 ranked losses on neutral and away floors, significantly overperforming expectations in year 1, and positioned to be at least a bubble team in the dance?
I'll take more!
I appreciate his dedication to the program and all he's fought through, but I don't need to see much more Greg Elliott at this point. I'd rather those minutes go to someone who could use the experience.
That was horrible. No MU giy going for the rebound and Wisconsin gets a three. Ugh. Lazy.
Elliot just sucks on D. Brutal.
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:15:10 PM
Greg's defense is... not good.
He's not exactly Gary Payton. :)
Say what you want about Gard, this is a well coached group as always.
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 04, 2021, 01:15:24 PM
Lewis really looks like he was coached by wojo. That needs to wear off a bit still.
just stop the garbage.
Gonna be frustrating to watch Wisconsin shoot under 30% from 3 in the next game or so.
I'm out. Erasing this one from the memory banks and moving on.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 01:16:36 PM
7-2, 2 ranked losses on neutral and away floors, significantly overperforming expectations in year 1, and positioned to be at least a bubble team in the dance?
I'll take more!
MU hasn't even gotten to the Big East competition yet.
The worst is yet to come.
Wisconsin has 43 points in 15 mins btw.
Some of this is just plain luck for Wisconsin but that happens when momentum is on your side. Clanked 3s and deflections leading to second chance points. It is what it is.
We got to 50 points!
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:18:59 PM
MU hasn't even gotten to the Big East competition yet.
The worst is yet to come.
How small is your penis?
If our guys can't hit threes, then practice on your own shooting threes and figure out another strategy. We fight for open shots and can't hit. New a different plan
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:18:59 PM
MU hasn't even gotten to the Big East competition yet.
The worst is yet to come.
Oh yeah? Got any stock tips? What's the weather going to be on January 14th?
Quote from: franklinjerry on December 04, 2021, 01:17:51 PM
Say what you want about Gard, this is a well coached group as always.
And MU is not well coached.
As always since Buzz left.
We'll be alright but this was extremely disappointing. What the H happened to our defense in the 2nd half?
Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 04, 2021, 01:12:26 PM
He won't be here next year.
He believes he is Durant, because without an outside shooting touch, he has no NBA interest. That's why he is shooting them and under Shaka system, that's ok. Started year good from three, but bad lately. Shaka needs to post him more often.
Hope he stays around, right now he is best MU has.
Lewis has six turnovers and is 1 for 6 from three. Not good.
This is a mediocre 3 pt shooting team and yet we settle for quick 3's a lot. Guys dribbling into traffic seems to be another strategy. Frustrating to see hints of Wojo in this game today.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:18:59 PM
MU hasn't even gotten to the Big East competition yet.
The worst is yet to come.
You are full of bullshit
I cannot wait to see what Davison doesn't do in his career
Floppy swings elbows both ways--no call. But hey, refs have been correct all day. Bull shice.
Brutal... awful performance in 2d half
Giving up WAY TOO many points ...
I mean UW on pace for 90 !
Truly pathetic
Well, at least I hit on the over.
Quote from: GB Warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:21:57 PM
I cannot wait to see what Davison doesn't do in his career
I would take Davison on MU any day of the week. Has a lot of Diener in him.
This is MU basketball under Shaka, folks.
This is how seriously MU takes the biggest rivalry game of the year.
If Shaka is such a big time defensive coach, how the hell does Bucky score 90 points.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2021, 01:23:25 PM
I would take Davison on MU any day of the week. Has a lot of Diener in him.
No he doesn't
Why the team shoots so many 3s is beyond me. I knew it was gonna be a long year but somehow losing to UW feels like 2 or 3 losses.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:24:07 PM
If Shaka is such a big time defensive coach, how the hell does Bucky score 90 points.
He was exposed as a fraud at Texas and now his act is at MU.
Get used to this crap.
Quote from: Mu8891 on December 04, 2021, 01:22:31 PM
Brutal... awful performance in 2d half
Giving up WAY TOO many points ...
I mean UW on pace for 90 !
Truly pathetic
I'd be curious to see their 2nd half stats. On pace for like 65 points in 20 mins??
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2021, 01:23:25 PM
I would take Davison on MU any day of the week. Has a lot of Diener in him.
Agreed. He had a few immature plays early in his career, but he seems like a good kid who plays with a lot of toughness.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:24:47 PM
He was exposed as a fraud at Texas and now his act is at MU.
Get used to this crap.
You're a douchebag.
If you could combine Elliott's offense and Mitchell's defense, I think you'd have a useful player.
If you could combine Elliott's defense and Mitchell's offense, I think you'd have me, an unathletic guy who hasn't played in several years.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 04, 2021, 01:24:17 PM
No he doesn't
Some of us can think and analyze objectively. You've proven you cannot.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:24:47 PM
He was exposed as a fraud at Texas and now his act is at MU.
Get used to this crap.
I remember my first beer
Quote from: MU24 on December 04, 2021, 01:24:19 PM
Why the team shoots so many 3s is beyond me. I knew it was gonna be a long year but somehow losing to UW feels like 2 or 3 losses.
Getting blown out stings much harder than a close point loss
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:23:59 PM
This is MU basketball under Shaka, folks.
This is how seriously MU takes the biggest rivalry game of the year.
what do you want to happen? are we supposed to call for shakas firing 8 games in? who do u want? this isnt a top teir destination school sorry. stop being a fan then cuz hes not going anywhere soon. can u at least giv the guy a year or two u clown
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 04, 2021, 01:25:31 PM
Agreed. He had a few immature plays early in his career, but he seems like a good kid who plays with a lot of toughness.
Ball punching, tripping, and sticking your foot under a guy coming down on a rebound are not "a few immature plays".
Quote from: CountryRoads on December 04, 2021, 01:25:31 PM
Agreed. He had a few immature plays early in his career, but he seems like a good kid who plays with a lot of toughness.
Was he young last year making immature plays as a Senior?
Quote from: IL Warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:11:36 PM
I pointed that one out because you agreed with it. You and others have this weird problem where you think the refs are completely above reproach and can do no wrong. Pointing out their imperfections acknowledges their humanity. To believe the refs have a 0-point impact on every game is foolish.
It hasn't been a problem this game. Not one bit.
Bad, bad performance. Very disappointed in our pace of play and sloppy handling of the ball. I can accept aggressive TO's, but no slow pace and self inflicted. IMO, we need Kur on the floor a lot more minutes moving forward.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2021, 01:26:08 PM
Some of us can think and analyze objectively. You've proven you cannot.
Travis played in the NBA
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:23:59 PM
This is MU basketball under Shaka, folks.
This is how seriously MU takes the biggest rivalry game of the year.
Do you have someone IRL you can go complain to for a little while?
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:24:47 PM
He was exposed as a fraud at Texas and now his act is at MU.
Get used to this crap.
Texas was a three seed last year.
Quote from: MU24 on December 04, 2021, 01:24:19 PM
Why the team shoots so many 3s is beyond me. I knew it was gonna be a long year but somehow losing to UW feels like 2 or 3 losses.
cuz we have no post game outside lewis and the team isnt uber quick and able to blow by guys either
Quote from: Johnny B on December 04, 2021, 01:26:22 PM
what do you want to happen? are we supposed to call for shakas firing 8 games in? who do u want? this isnt a top teir destination school sorry. stop being a fan then cuz hes not going anywhere soon. can u at least giv the guy a year or two u clown
I wanted Moser. Shaka underperformed at Texas with actual freaking talent on that team. He brought in junk to MU. You could go into the rec plex gym at noon and find guys in their 50's playing pick-up ball who can shoot better than this.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 04, 2021, 01:27:49 PM
Texas was a three seed last year.
And did what in the tourney as that 3 seed?
Quote from: Johnny B on December 04, 2021, 01:26:22 PM
what do you want to happen? are we supposed to call for shakas firing 8 games in? who do u want? this isnt a top teir destination school sorry. stop being a fan then cuz hes not going anywhere soon. can u at least giv the guy a year or two u clown
Don't listen to Porter Moser's cousin.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:29:10 PM
I wanted Moser. Shaka underperformed at Texas with actual freaking talent on that team. He brought in junk to MU. You could go into the rec plex gym at noon and find guys in their 50's playing pick-up ball who can shoot better than this.
Nope, you've been clear it is about melanin content and social stances. Don't you have a 3 percenter meeting to run to?
Quote from: TSmith34 on December 04, 2021, 01:30:39 PM
Nope, you've been clear it is about melanin content and social stances. Don't you have a 3 percenter meeting to run to?
This is the correct take.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 04, 2021, 01:28:10 PM
cuz we have no post game outside lewis and the team isnt uber quick and able to blow by guys either
Jones and Ellis are quick but need time. Your point is well taken though. Kolek doesn't have that great and is our primary creator. I've advocated for a burner for many, many, years.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2021, 01:26:08 PM
Some of us can think and analyze objectively. You've proven you cannot.
Diener was a stud PG who shot over 41% from 3 over his career, averaged 7 assists in his last 2 years, and could distribute or score in huge bunches.
Davison has shot 30% from 3 this year, is under 35% for the majority of his career, and has been a single digit career scorer most of his career. He also barely averages 2 assists per game.
Other than being a "tough" white guy, what of Diener does Davison have? Diener had an edge and attitude and was an assassin, thats why opposing teams hate him. But he was never dirty or had a nationwide reputation for it. Thats why teams hate Davison, not cause he's a killer with the ball.
Quote from: MuggsyB on December 04, 2021, 01:31:24 PM
Jones and Ellis are quick but need time. Your point is well taken though. Kolek doesn't have that great and is our primary creator. I've advocated for a burner for many, many, years.
I'm high on Mitchell, I think he will be a good one.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 04, 2021, 01:27:04 PM
Travis played in the NBA
Doesn't matter. Broth bring toughness, leadership, and passion to the court, something we do not have at this time.
I don't care that he's a Badger, I'd love to have him at MU.
Quote from: Retire0 on December 04, 2021, 01:31:16 PM
This is the correct take.
His social stances are idiotic, but I don't give a crap what skin color the guy has. A white guy with the same social stances is equally pathetic.
I just wish his coaching ability was more competent than his politics
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2021, 01:33:25 PM
Doesn't matter. Broth bring toughness, leadership, and passion to the court, something we do not have at this time.
Humorous.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:33:41 PM
His social stances are idiotic, but I don't give a crap what skin color the guy has. A white guy with the same social stances is equally pathetic.
I just wish his coaching ability was more competent than his politics
Your hood at the dry cleaner?
Quote from: forgetful on December 04, 2021, 01:32:45 PM
I'm high on Mitchell, I think he will be a good one.
LOL, he can't even dribble the basketball adequately.
Quote from: Goose on December 04, 2021, 01:26:38 PM
Bad, bad performance. Very disappointed in our pace of play and sloppy handling of the ball. I can accept aggressive TO's, but no slow pace and self inflicted. IMO, we need Kur on the floor a lot more minutes moving forward.
Your prediction of a double digit win didn't work out. This could be very rough stretch. Need more discipline, less turnovers, less threes. But that's Shaka's style, aggressive, run and shoot ,etc. Kur is the second coming of Theo, human foul machine.
Last three minutes of first half killed them. Up four and then three turnovers and nothing.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2021, 01:33:25 PM
Doesn't matter. Broth bring toughness, leadership, and passion to the court, something we do not have at this time.
Oh, good lord. They're both white guys, too
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 04, 2021, 01:34:30 PM
Your hood at the dry cleaner?
Someone spilled coffee on it walking down the street.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2021, 01:33:25 PM
Doesn't matter. Broth bring toughness, leadership, and passion to the court, something we do not have at this time.
I don't care that he's a Badger, I'd love to have him at MU.
Do you even watch the games? JFC. Between you and the other turd on this thread...why put yourself through this if it makes you so unhappy. It's pathetic.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on December 04, 2021, 01:34:30 PM
Your hood at the dry cleaner?
It's going to be hilarious when Shaka's act has worn thin and the fanbase gets ansty (which will happen) and calls for his firing will be met with "racist" accusation drivel.
We all know it's coming, it happened at Texas.
Like what I am seeing from EE. Hope we can see more of him in future games.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 01:31:54 PM
Other than being a "tough" white guy, what of Diener does Davison have? Diener had an edge and attitude and was an assassin, thats why opposing teams hate him. But he was never dirty or had a nationwide reputation for it. Thats why teams hate Davison, not cause he's a killer with the ball.
+1.
Travis Diener, Brad Davison, Aaron Craft, Greg Paulus, Eric Devendorf, Grayson Allen. Pretty much all the same player.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:35:02 PM
LOL, he can't even dribble the basketball adequately.
Find another team, d-bag.
Quote from: JWags85 on December 04, 2021, 01:31:54 PM
Diener was a stud PG who shot over 41% from 3 over his career, averaged 7 assists in his last 2 years, and could distribute or score in huge bunches.
Davison has shot 30% from 3 this year, is under 35% for the majority of his career, and has been a single digit career scorer most of his career. He also barely averages 2 assists per game.
Other than being a "tough" white guy, what of Diener does Davison have? Diener had an edge and attitude and was an assassin, thats why opposing teams hate him. But he was never dirty or had a nationwide reputation for it. Thats why teams hate Davison, not cause he's a killer with the ball.
Fully agree with this analysis.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 04, 2021, 01:35:21 PM
Oh, good lord. They're both white guys, too
Billy thinks they both have grit
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on December 04, 2021, 01:36:38 PM
Do you even watch the games? JFC. Between you and the other turd on this thread...why put yourself through this if it makes you so unhappy. It's pathetic.
This guy gets it. What is the point in making yourself so miserable?
Quote from: GB Warrior on December 04, 2021, 01:38:29 PM
Billy thinks they both have grit
Billy only likes the gym rats.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:26:45 PM
An accurate douchebag.
Not even close. You squatted on this bad take all year and now you're trying to do a victory lap after a ranked loss on the road?
This is college basketball buddy teams don't go undefeated. It's a loss. We actually won the Bucky game a lot under Wojo and look how that worked out.
Why do you feed and answer that troll, NLW ??? If everyone puts him on IGNORE he will go away! ! ! Instead he gets "quoted" and we ALL have to see his nonsensical Drivel ! ! ! Please put him on IGNORE ! ! ! 8-)
Quote from: Ardmore Mug on December 04, 2021, 01:41:21 PM
Why do you feed and answer that troll, NLW ??? If everyone puts him on IGNORE he will go away! ! ! Instead he gets "quoted" and we ALL have to see his nonsensical Drivel ! ! ! Please put him on IGNORE ! ! ! 8-)
Because it's more fun to eviscerate him publicly. He's unintelligent.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 01:42:48 PM
Because it's more fun to eviscerate him publicly. He's unintelligent.
He's getting what he wants.
Quote from: MUBurrow on December 04, 2021, 01:37:36 PM
+1.
Travis Diener, Brad Davison, Aaron Craft, Greg Paulus, Eric Devendorf, Grayson Allen. Pretty much all the same player.
I imagine this is teal
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:37:07 PM
It's going to be hilarious when Shaka's act has worn thin and the fanbase gets ansty (which will happen) and calls for his firing will be met with "racist" accusation drivel.
We all know it's coming, it happened at Texas.
Damn Nolonger give it a break!
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 01:40:53 PM
Not even close. You squatted on this bad take all year and now you're trying to do a victory lap after a ranked loss on the road?
This is college basketball buddy teams don't go undefeated. It's a loss. We actually won the Bucky game a lot under Wojo and look how that worked out.
It's an accurate take and I'll wait for you to keep talking nonsense after the BE season is over.
And I wasn't a fan of Wojo at all, but Shaka is a worse coach. The talent he brought in is just not good.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 01:42:48 PM
Because it's more fun to eviscerate him publicly. He's unintelligent.
Heh, we'll see who the "unintelligent" one is as the season progresses!
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:54:51 PM
Heh, we'll see who the "unintelligent" one is as the season progresses!
Most here had realistic expectations for the season, genius.
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:54:51 PM
Heh, we'll see who the "unintelligent" one is as the season progresses!
Yes let's judge the entirety of Shaka's coaching abilities on his first season at the helm. A very intelligent thing to do!
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on December 04, 2021, 02:00:39 PM
Yes let's judge the entirety of Shaka's coaching abilities on his first season at the helm. A very intelligent thing to do!
Some people would rather be right than cheer for the team they say they support
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:37:07 PM
It's going to be hilarious when Shaka's act has worn thin and the fanbase gets ansty (which will happen) and calls for his firing will be met with "racist" accusation drivel.
We all know it's coming, it happened at Texas.
I mean, Texas boosters did send emails about "them colored boys" but sure
You are quite the turd...
Quote from: NolongerWarriors on December 04, 2021, 01:37:07 PM
It's going to be hilarious when Shaka's act has worn thin and the fanbase gets ansty (which will happen) and calls for his firing will be met with "racist" accusation drivel.
We all know it's coming, it happened at Texas.
Quote from: Newsdreams on December 04, 2021, 01:43:46 PM
I imagine this is teal
Embarrassingly, no.
Quote from: Retire0 on December 04, 2021, 01:39:09 PM
Billy only likes the gym rats.
I'll like leaders at the point. Both are facilitators but can go off when needed. The difference is Travis had to his last two seasons, Davison has a better supporting cast. Markus was a gunner who didn't play Dso that isn't an apt comparison (though both are big time into FCA so there is something in common.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2021, 02:22:39 PM
Embarrassingly, no.
I'll like leaders at the point. Both are facilitators but can go off when needed. The difference is Travis had to his last two seasons, Davison has a better supporting cast. Markus was a gunner who didn't play Dso that isn't an apt comparison (though both are big time into FCA so there is something in common.
Markus was a pure scorer who had to play PG, undersized and learned to play some D, but most energy was spent on offense. Travis did and still does so many things (TBT) that don't even show in box score. I mean Travis won us the game for us to be able to get to FF. Travis never punched any player below belt.
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on December 04, 2021, 02:22:39 PM
I'll like leaders at the point. Both are facilitators but can go off when needed. The difference is Travis had to his last two seasons, Davison has a better supporting cast. Markus was a gunner who didn't play Dso that isn't an apt comparison (though both are big time into FCA so there is something in common.
Davison isn't a their PG or a PG in general, Hepburn is. And for a "facilitator" he has none of the stats to back it up. You're literally creating some narrative about him as a player that is backed up by nothing but fantasy.
Quote from: Johnny B on December 04, 2021, 01:26:22 PM
what do you want to happen? are we supposed to call for shakas firing 8 games in? who do u want? this isnt a top teir destination school sorry. stop being a fan then cuz hes not going anywhere soon. can u at least giv the guy a year or two u clown
Agreed. He should be given 2 more years after this year at least
But he needs to start landing some big time players. Most of the current kids are 3 star or lower
I'm trying to recall all the times Travis punched opposing players in the nuts, stuck his foot under them in an attempt to roll an ankle, intentionally tripped them, or repeated faked charges by throwing himself at the floor.
But, he is white, which is the most important thing for you.
Quote from: TSmith34 on December 04, 2021, 02:55:48 PM
I'm trying to recall all the times Travis punched opposing players in the nuts, stuck his foot under them in an attempt to roll an ankle, intentionally tripped them, or repeated faked charges by throwing himself at the floor.
But, he is white, which is the most important thing for you.
You got it
Good God that was an ass whuppin'...where the hell was the "vaunted" Shaka defense? Game, set, and match Floppy McNutpuncher...
Difficult venue for first road game with a team very much a work in progress. Davis made some tough shots, but that 2nd half D was garbage. I think I'd start Oso and Mitchell, along with Jones, Morsell and Lewis. Base the bench rotation on match-ups. Try it vs K-State. If successful, repeat vs UCLA.
Quote from: Pops Sims on December 04, 2021, 03:29:27 PM
Good God that was an ass whuppin'...where the hell was the "vaunted" Shaka defense? Game, set, and match Floppy McNutpuncher...
UW fan here.
Quote from: Viper on December 04, 2021, 08:12:13 PM
Difficult venue for first road game with a team very much a work in progress. Davis made some tough shots, but that 2nd half D was garbage. I think I'd start Oso and Mitchell, along with Jones, Morsell and Lewis. Base the bench rotation on match-ups. Try it vs K-State. If successful, repeat vs UCLA.
Start Mitchell who is struggling now, and Jones shooting 30% from 3. And no ball handler and distributor of Kolek and Morrell?
Don't think that would work.
Quote from: willie warrior on December 05, 2021, 06:12:43 AM
Start Mitchell who is struggling now, and Jones shooting 30% from 3. And no ball handler and distributor of Kolek and Morrell?
Don't think that would work.
Kolek isn't a ball handler, it would appear. Shooter? Bad rotation on his shot. Let the freshmen Mitchell and Jones run. PT might be the cure. If not, we'll go your way.
Quote from: Viper on December 05, 2021, 07:17:23 AM
Kolek isn't a ball handler, it would appear. Shooter? Bad rotation on his shot. Let the freshmen Mitchell and Jones run. PT might be the cure. If not, we'll go your way.
I don't think putting that pressure on freshmen against experienced teams coming up is a good recipe. Kolek is a good distributor, that seems to be his main role and take 3's when open and they start falling we good.
Quote from: Viper on December 05, 2021, 07:17:23 AM
Kolek isn't a ball handler, it would appear. Shooter? Bad rotation on his shot. Let the freshmen Mitchell and Jones run. PT might be the cure. If not, we'll go your way.
He's averaging almost 6 assists, most games has around 2 TOs. That's the kind of person you want to have the ball in their hands :o