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Darryl Morsell

Honorable Mention
Justin Lewis
Tyler Kolek

Mr. Morsell has a three game streak!

Kolek or Kueth. 5 blocks when Illinois was up and a big time steal.

Can't even opine having had to miss the first half, but Kuath should get some props -he was the difference down the stretch.

Quote from: Herman Cain on November 15, 2021, 08:50:06 PM
Darryl Morsell

Honorable Mention
Justin Lewis
Tyler Kolek

Got to add Kur Kuath to that list.

JFL. Those missed Morsell free throws at $ time. But close

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 15, 2021, 08:53:00 PM
Kolek or Kueth. 5 blocks when Illinois was up and a big time steal.

Kueth also had 2 steals per ESPN box score. Led the team along with a couple others. His one swipe on top was particularly nice.

Let's be honest, it should go to Curbelo.

Can we please do this just to tweak Illini fans all year?  Please?

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 15, 2021, 08:57:57 PM
JFL. Those missed Morsell free throws at $ time. But close

Agreed.  1and 1a.  But JFL is 1.

Quote from: Bob "Big Daddy" Wild on November 15, 2021, 08:59:55 PM
Let's be honest, it should go to Curbelo.

Can we please do this just to tweak Illini fans all year?  Please?

That would be funny!

I'm not sure yet who should get it but it's no slam dunk for Morsell. Need to make those FTs if you're the alpha dog.

Quote from: Bob "Big Daddy" Wild on November 15, 2021, 08:59:55 PM
Let's be honest, it should go to Curbelo.

Can we please do this just to tweak Illini fans all year?  Please?

It's not "Dud of the Game."

Kur

KK D

Our Kueth was the difference maker.

https://twitter.com/PaintTouches/status/1460438366080716804?t=biUBrscWOnRH-rtqxKnklg&s=19

Morsell scored big again, but missing all those huge FTs ... I don't know. I mean, it wasn't just 1 or 2, it was a bunch of 'em.

Over and over again Kuath was making big defensive plays. Even when he didn't block shots, he changed them. The fact that he played quite poorly in the first two games but really responded when we needed him against a quality opponent ... I think that means something.

Morsell, Lewis and Kolek also deserve consideration, obviously. And Shaka, if we could give it to a coach.

And yes, as a few others said ... the main reason we won the game ... Curbelo. Man, was he bad.

Morsell

I'll go Kolek. Steadying influence.

Kuath for the 5 blocks and the steal at the top of the key in crunch time.  Needs to work on his offense, but the blocked shots in the paint were fantastic.

Morsell.

Definitely not SOTG worthy but Mitchell shut down Curbelo for the last 6 minutes after they switched Morsell over to Frazier. Great defense from a freshman.

Morsell but Kur and Kolek were great.

Morsell

Morsell.

Kolek and Kur honorable mentions.

If we're disqualifying players for missing free throws down the stretch I'm not sure anyone qualifies. Kur missed 2. Kolek missed the only one he got. Stevie missed 2. I believe Lewis missed one, but I might be thinking of earlier in the game.

Rocky has a decision to make. My guess he will bilk it for 5 days.

Quote from: BLM on November 15, 2021, 10:14:39 PM
Morsell.

Kolek and Kur honorable mentions.

If we're disqualifying players for missing free throws down the stretch I'm not sure anyone qualifies. Kur missed 2. Kolek missed the only one he got. Stevie missed 2. I believe Lewis missed one, but I might be thinking of earlier in the game.

Not saying Morsell should be disqualified.

But he was 4/9 including a missed front end

Lewis was 7/8

Free throws plural kinda the key there. Not a fair comp.

Quote from: BLM on November 15, 2021, 10:14:39 PM
Morsell.

Kolek and Kur honorable mentions.

If we're disqualifying players for missing free throws down the stretch I'm not sure anyone qualifies. Kur missed 2. Kolek missed the only one he got. Stevie missed 2. I believe Lewis missed one, but I might be thinking of earlier in the game.

Morsell is a scorer and a good shooter who simply has to make those FTs -- or at least most of them. Kur ... anytime he makes a FT it's a bonus.

But don't get me wrong ... I'm certainly not outraged if DM wins SOTG. He had a fine game other than the misses.

Tyler Kolek. Our offense doesn't really function without him, and his defense clinched the win. Honorable mention to Morsell, Kuath, Justin, and Stevie for his defense on Curbelo that allowed Morsell to slide over to Frazier.

Darryl Morsell. Plenty of missed free throws by most of the guys combined. He was steady as a rock on offense and definitely impacted on defense as we expect. The 3 on 1 break where he pulled up and drained a 3 was ice cold.

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 15, 2021, 08:57:57 PM
JFL. Those missed Morsell free throws at $ time. But close

This.

1.  Lewis
2.  Morsell
3.  Kolek
4.  Kuath

Big games from all four.

Morsel is proving to be a tremendous leader for this team. Although he's not a player, Shaka makes a big difference this year. There's a lot to like about this Marquette team.

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 15, 2021, 10:18:57 PM
Rocky has a decision to make. My guess he will bilk it for 5 days.

If this happens I want my year dues refunded.

Kolek.

We do when without his defense. Especially at the end.

He doesn't score the way Morsell does yet, but he is the difference maker in so many ways.

Kuath

Kuath

Kuath. Block party.

Curbelo

Kur

Kur is a shot blocker and a game changer. He blocks the ball in play and disrupts the game. Mac was an elite college shot blocker and Kur is not far behind.

Kuath

Quote from: Goose on November 16, 2021, 08:18:39 AM
Kur is a shot blocker and a game changer. He blocks the ball in play and disrupts the game.

And it's so nice to see him getting blocks without being called for fouls. Through three games, Kuath has been called for four personal fouls total.

It's been a long time since we had multiple players in a real conversation for SOTG honors... refreshing to say the least!

Quote from: Goose on November 16, 2021, 08:18:39 AM
Kur is a shot blocker and a game changer. He blocks the ball in play and disrupts the game. Mac was an elite college shot blocker and Kur is not far behind.

Yup...Shaka had him as his "Dimino" of the game as well.  UI was afraid to attack him/the lane in the second half. 

They switched Morsell onto Frazier when he started torching us. Then he stopped and the tide turned.

Morsell also got several buckets when we were floundering on offense to pull us out of multiple funks. SOTG.

Kuath. He had 5 blocks and 2 steals in only 23 minutes. That's some big-time defensive productivity, and had to affect Illinois' play-calling down the stretch.

Morsell, Kolek and Lewis also have solid cases.

Quote from: tower912 on November 16, 2021, 07:56:33 AM
Curbelo

Bothers me when people say this, even knowing it's tongue in cheek. Why do you think he played so poorly? Our defense on him was suffocating. He plays like garbage because we play well.

Quote from: StillAWarrior on November 16, 2021, 10:48:05 AM
And it's so nice to see him getting blocks without being called for fouls. Through three games, Kuath has been called for four personal fouls total.

Well, he only played 15 mins against SIUE and 13 against UNH because he wasn't very good. Shaka got him outta there and put in Oso, so there wasn't much time for Kuath to commit fouls.

I look forward to seeing which Kuath shows up most games, because we need the most recent one!

Quote from: MU82 on November 16, 2021, 09:33:43 PM
...there wasn't much time for Kuath to commit fouls.

Theo could pick up more fouls in two minutes than Kur has in three games.

Quote from: StillAWarrior on November 16, 2021, 10:03:18 PM
Theo could pick up more fouls in two minutes than Kur has in three games.

True enough.

Morsell. Kuath certainly had a defensive impact but I think Morsell's defense was just as key and he added the offensive production. Morsell's ability to harass ballhandlers AND defend an entirely different player at the same time is amazing. So many times he left his man to go make life difficult for Curbelo but did it in a way that there was no way Curbelo could get his man the ball.

J Lew

Are we falling into that trap that happened when Markus was here where we try to spread around SOTG and avoid giving it to the obvious choice? I think Kur had his best game so far, but Morsell is the easy choice. I know rebounding is a team focus but when we get out-rebounded by 20 and our starting center only has 5 boards, that's not good. Morsell had just as many boards, played just as good defense, albeit at a different position, and was productive offensively again. Out of the TO Shaka called when we were down 12, everyone knew that Morsell was taking the shot, but he drilled it anyways. He's just our "we need a basket now" guy. So solid, easy choice.

Edit: also, not SOTG worthy, but Stevie being the primary defender on Curbello in crunch time was very nice. Dude will be a stud once the game slows down a bit.

Quote from: Its DJOver on November 17, 2021, 08:13:55 AM
Are we falling into that trap that happened when Markus was here where we try to spread around SOTG and avoid giving it to the obvious choice? I think Kur had his best game so far, but Morsell is the easy choice. I know rebounding isn't a team focus but when we get out-rebounded by 20 and our starting center only has 5 boards, that's not good. Morsell had just as many boards, played just as good defense, albeit at a different position, and was productive offensively again. Out of the TO Shaka called when we were down 12, everyone knew that Morsell was taking the shot, but he drilled it anyways. He's just our "we need a basket now" guy. So solid, easy choice.

I would select Kuath in a close one, and it has absolutely nothing to do with wanting to spread around SOTG. I'd give it to Morsell every game, just as I'd have given it to Markus every game, if I felt he was the one.

I've already stated my case for Kuath, so I obviously disagree with you about Morsell being "the easy choice" this time. I think it's almost a coin flip, so obviously I'd have no problem with Morsell getting it (not that it would mean a hill of beans if I did have a problem with it).

Kolek and Lewis are also deserving of mention but are behind the other two IMHO.

The only two ways you should be able to win SOTG in 23 minutes is if you hit a game winning shot (i.e. Justin v Bucky last year), or a blowout buy game where you sit most of the second half because the game is done. Again, thought Kur had his best game, but certainly no SOTG performance in my eyes. To each their own.

Quote from: Its DJOver on November 17, 2021, 08:13:55 AM
Are we falling into that trap that happened when Markus was here where we try to spread around SOTG and avoid giving it to the obvious choice? I think Kur had his best game so far, but Morsell is the easy choice. I know rebounding is a team focus but when we get out-rebounded by 20 and our starting center only has 5 boards, that's not good. Morsell had just as many boards, played just as good defense, albeit at a different position, and was productive offensively again. Out of the TO Shaka called when we were down 12, everyone knew that Morsell was taking the shot, but he drilled it anyways. He's just our "we need a basket now" guy. So solid, easy choice.

Edit: also, not SOTG worthy, but Stevie being the primary defender on Curbello in crunch time was very nice. Dude will be a stud once the game slows down a bit.

Agree with all of this.

Morsell has been unreal. So far from just a strong defensive presence and leader. It's also easy to forget now how our transfers usually take months to find their way and truly contribute. Morsell and Kolek have been more than impressive in that regard. It was nice to see Kuath show more against a step up in competition than we'd seen as well.

Quote from: Its DJOver on November 17, 2021, 08:38:32 AM
The only two ways you should be able to win SOTG in 23 minutes is if you hit a game winning shot (i.e. Justin v Bucky last year), or a blowout buy game where you sit most of the second half because the game is done. Again, thought Kur had his best game, but certainly no SOTG performance in my eyes. To each their own.

All fair.

Quote from: StillWarriors on November 17, 2021, 08:55:13 AM

Morsell has been unreal. So far from just a strong defensive presence and leader. It's also easy to forget now how our transfers usually take months to find their way and truly contribute. Morsell and Kolek have been more than impressive in that regard. It was nice to see Kuath show more against a step up in competition than we'd seen as well.

Good point about our transfers, both historically and now.

Couldn't be more thrilled with Morsell; he is SO much better than advertised. Kuath was less than advertised the first two games but came through big vs Illinois. Kolek has been solid, and I look to see how much he can keep improving.

Quote from: Its DJOver on November 17, 2021, 08:13:55 AM
Are we falling into that trap that happened when Markus was here where we try to spread around SOTG and avoid giving it to the obvious choice? I think Kur had his best game so far, but Morsell is the easy choice. I know rebounding isn't a team focus but when we get out-rebounded by 20 and our starting center only has 5 boards, that's not good. Morsell had just as many boards, played just as good defense, albeit at a different position, and was productive offensively again. Out of the TO Shaka called when we were down 12, everyone knew that Morsell was taking the shot, but he drilled it anyways. He's just our "we need a basket now" guy. So solid, easy choice.

Edit: also, not SOTG worthy, but Stevie being the primary defender on Curbello in crunch time was very nice. Dude will be a stud once the game slows down a bit.

Not that we actually have a vote, but I should clarify: I think Morsell was the SOTG against Illinois.

My posts above about Kur were simply to comment on how nice it is to get blocks without a lot of fouling. So far this season, Kur has had at least as many blocks as fouls every game (SEIU - 3B and 2PF; UNH - 1 and 1; Illini - 5 and 1). I realize, of course, that this is a very small sample size, but if you look at stats from his two seasons in Oklahoma he did this in 35 of 57 games. For comparison, Theo did this only 32 times in 92 124 games at Marquette (and none of his four games at Duke). Oh...and Kur never fouled out of a game at Oklahoma (and only had four fouls twice).

I should point out that I was a big Theo fan and sometimes thought he was unfairly targeted by officials. I'm just saying that I hope we continue to get blocks from Kur without him always being in foul trouble.

Edited to correct the number of game Theo played at Marquette - 124. The "92" was the number of games when Theo didn't have at least as many blocks as fouls.

Quote from: Its DJOver on November 17, 2021, 08:13:55 AM
Are we falling into that trap that happened when Markus was here where we try to spread around SOTG and avoid giving it to the obvious choice?

Morsell was great, I said Kolek. The reason was because TK was so instrumental in getting the offense going. It felt like we really struggled to score without him in there. His two 3s were massive and he really pulled the offensive strings. Coming up with the defensive play and lay-up that won the game solidified my thought that he was just that dude all night long.

Quote from: StillAWarrior on November 17, 2021, 09:26:24 AM
Not that we actually have a vote, but I should clarify: I think Morsell was the SOTG against Illinois.

My posts above about Kur were simply to comment on how nice it is to get blocks without a lot of fouling. So far this season, Kur has had at least as many blocks as fouls every game (SEIU - 3B and 2PF; UNH - 1 and 1; Illini - 5 and 1). I realize, of course, that this is a very small sample size, but if you look at stats from his two seasons in Oklahoma he did this in 35 of 57 games. For comparison, Theo did this only 32 times in 92 games at Marquette (and none of his four games at Duke). Oh...and Kur never fouled out of a game at Oklahoma (and only had four fouls twice).

I should point out that I was a big Theo fan and sometimes thought he was unfairly targeted by officials. I'm just saying that I hope we continue to get blocks from Kur without him always being in foul trouble.

It's almost comical how far away he can be from the body of the offensive player and still block their shot due to his long arms. What a huge advantage in avoiding fouls.

Sorry folks, I've been so busy trying to figure out how to dry these damn blankets out, I neglected to get Kur's award up earlier.

Felt his play, especially in the late part of the game was the difference maker, hence, SOTG.

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 18, 2021, 09:54:35 AM
Sorry folks, I've been so busy trying to figure out how to dry these damn blankets out, I neglected to get Kur's award up earlier.

Felt his play, especially in the late part of the game was the difference maker, hence, SOTG.

No worries. I just figured you were too fixated on tonight's line to get this done

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTTsKAaffeOqK85J754h3V8UU53L1Fst4U7WQ&usqp=CAU)

It all depends on how the blankets got wet.

So, a Kur for what ails us.

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 18, 2021, 09:54:35 AM
Sorry folks, I've been so busy trying to figure out how to dry these damn blankets out, I neglected to get Kur's award up earlier.

Felt his play, especially in the late part of the game was the difference maker, hence, SOTG.

Great pic. Did he make that dunk?

Congratulations Kur on an award well earned.

I given up trying to put input on this, I was happy to see they gave it to Kuath. It was the right choice,

this is outrageous. its unfair. 2-5 fg and 5 blocks is ok. morsell ballin like kobe and defending like pippin stud by far

Quote from: Johnny B on November 18, 2021, 01:54:02 PM
this is outrageous. its unfair. 2-5 fg and 5 blocks is ok. morsell ballin like kobe and defending like pippin stud by far

I think you should protest by refusing to Venmo your $100 Scoop monthly subscription cost.

Quote from: Its DJOver on November 17, 2021, 08:38:32 AM
The only two ways you should be able to win SOTG in 23 minutes is if you hit a game winning shot (i.e. Justin v Bucky last year), or a blowout buy game where you sit most of the second half because the game is done. Again, thought Kur had his best game, but certainly no SOTG performance in my eyes. To each their own.

+1

While I was really happy to see Kur have a good game after two head scratching performances there is no way (imo) that he deserved SOTG. Morsell was an easy #1, Kolek and Lewis were a toss up for 2 and 3, Kuath a solid but distant 4.

Most improved player? Absolutely. SOTG? No way.

Quote from: MU82 on November 18, 2021, 10:07:50 AM
Great pic. Did he make that dunk?

It was against SIUe, and he missed his two dunk attempts that game, so I'm gonna say no.  But it's still a great shot (credit MU game gallery)

https://gomarquette.com/s3/gomarquette.com/custompages/gallery/MBB_vs_SIUE/thumbs/_big_AK2X3680.JPG

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 18, 2021, 02:26:16 PM
It was against SIUe, and he missed his two dunk attempts that game, so I'm gonna say no.  But it's still a great shot (credit MU game gallery)

https://gomarquette.com/s3/gomarquette.com/custompages/gallery/MBB_vs_SIUE/thumbs/_big_AK2X3680.JPG

Sounds right. I think he's missed 3 dunks so far, all challenged.

Quote from: Johnny B on November 18, 2021, 01:54:02 PM
this is outrageous. its unfair. 2-5 fg and 5 blocks is ok. morsell ballin like kobe and defending like pippin stud by far

Going to get a perma ban

Interesting choice.