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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MU82 on March 20, 2021, 11:28:47 PM
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Changed my mind.
How the hell do we fire a guy because he can't win an NCAA tournament game and hire a guy who is 0-fer in 6 years at a place with all the resources Texas has?
I mean Shaka's team was just totally outplayed, outworked and outhustled by a team full of little guys, not a one of them who would sniff a scholly at Texas. AC was D2 just a few years ago, for crissakes.
At least Wojo lost to Ja Morant and to the team that went onto the Final Four ... not that he deserves a banner, but at least he didn't lose to a D2 school.
If I were the Texas AD, I'd have fired Shaka before he got to the locker room. And if I were Scholl, I wouldn't follow one loser by hiring another.
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Changed my mind.
How the hell do we fire a guy because he can't win an NCAA tournament game and hire a guy who is 0-fer in 6 years at a place with all the resources Texas has?
I mean Shaka's team was just totally outplayed, outworked and outhustled by a team full of little guys, not a one of them who would sniff a scholly at Texas. AC was D2 just a few years ago, for crissakes.
At least Wojo lost to Ja Morant and to the team that went onto the Final Four ... not that he deserves a banner, but at least he didn't lose to a D2 school.
If I were the Texas AD, I'd have fired Shaka before he got to the locker room. And if I were Scholl, I wouldn't follow one loser by hiring another.
If he woulda made the final
Four this year you’d want him.
So you only want him when you can’t have him?
As I asked
Chi in another thread. Would you take Tony Bennett? He has a national championship!!!
But he also lost to a 16 seed and also blew it today with the every so great 3point shooting transfer.
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Honestly, Shaka's problem at Texas was similar to Wojo's problem. No identity. Both fell in love with recruiting "stars" and didn't have a clear system.
Shaka abandoned havoc, didn't really establish a new identity.
In all honesty, he needs a place to reboot. Get back to his identity.
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Changed my mind.
One game changed your opinion, eh? You didn’t have your mind made up weeks ago based on his prior body of work, eh? If he won this game you’d still want him, eh?
Very interesting.
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Honestly, Shaka's problem at Texas was similar to Wojo's problem. No identity. Both fell in love with recruiting "stars" and didn't have a clear system.
Shaka abandoned havoc, didn't really establish a new identity.
In all honesty, he needs a place to reboot. Get back to his identity.
Well that’s not good then if it’s identity related.
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If this season swayed you one way or another on Shaka it’s probably a good thing you have no control over our next decision. He’s been absolute trash for as long as wojo has.
I know we’ve been bad for a long time now but my god, we need to have at least a little respect for ourselves
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If he woulda made the final
Four this year you’d want him.
So you only want him when you can’t have him?
As I asked
Chi in another thread. Would you take Tony Bennett? He has a national championship!!!
But he also lost to a 16 seed and also blew it today with the every so great 3point shooting transfer.
This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.
Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:
Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.
Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.
Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.
Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.
People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.
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Honestly, Shaka's problem at Texas was similar to Wojo's problem. No identity. Both fell in love with recruiting "stars" and didn't have a clear system.
Shaka abandoned havoc, didn't really establish a new identity.
In all honesty, he needs a place to reboot. Get back to his identity.
Correct. It should be done elsewhere rather than at MU. Just like Wojo can make another school pay for his reclamation project.
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This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.
Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:
Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.
Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.
Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.
Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.
People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.
Fair. I appreciate the opinion and reasonings behind how you feel on that.
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If this season swayed you one way or another on Shaka it’s probably a good thing you have no control over our next decision. He’s been absolute trash for as long as wojo has.
I know we’ve been bad for a long time now but my god, we need to have at least a little respect for ourselves
Well said.
He already said, "F-U, Marquette, I ain't goin' there."
So now, after he's done absolutely NOTHING in the 7 years since he told us to go to h-e-double-hockey-sticks, we're gonna give him $4 million a year?
No effen way. You're right, Hound ... we gotta have some respect.
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This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.
Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:
Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.
Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.
Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.
Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.
People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.
ACU leads the country in forcing turns. Tex and Shaka had a really bad night but I'm not sure I'd glean too much on one performance.
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I don’t want Shaka, and this season had very little to do with it.
If we are going to have a coach who recruits a bunch of talented players but can’t win in March, I would rather have kept Wojo and watched DJ, DG and JFL develop the next couple of seasons.
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I would rather have kept Wojo and watched DJ, DG and JFL develop the next couple of seasons.
Absolutely zero guarantee this would have happened anyway.
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Absolutely zero guarantee this would have happened anyway.
No guarantee, but a much better chance with the coach who recruited them.
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It's really spooky how similar Shaka's Texas post-season compares to Wojo. Shaka is just a touch better.
Wojo, 2 NCAAs, both one and dones. Shaka, 3 NCAAs, all one and dones.
Wojo, 1 NIT, won a couple games .. Shaka, 1 NIT, won it.
Shaka better .. not by much. I guess that's what you get for $3.2m?
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I hate Shaka....well actually I think he’s turned the corner...I hate Shaka again.
You’ve played both sides of Shaka....so....you’re right on hiring/firing/loving/hating/ him. Congrats. Blame it on the wife!
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Shaka taking questions right now on CBSSN.
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Changed my mind.
How the hell do we fire a guy because he can't win an NCAA tournament game and hire a guy who is 0-fer in 6 years at a place with all the resources Texas has?
I mean Shaka's team was just totally outplayed, outworked and outhustled by a team full of little guys, not a one of them who would sniff a scholly at Texas. AC was D2 just a few years ago, for crissakes.
At least Wojo lost to Ja Morant and to the team that went onto the Final Four ... not that he deserves a banner, but at least he didn't lose to a D2 school.
If I were the Texas AD, I'd have fired Shaka before he got to the locker room. And if I were Scholl, I wouldn't follow one loser by hiring another.
Makes you wonder if the interviewing committee changed from last time, hey?
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This thread is, how you say, wishy washy?
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SHAKA SHOCKED
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This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.
Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:
Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.
Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.
Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.
Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.
People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.
Yes! Z-E-R-O fundamentals or team basketball on display. Made me want to puke (aside from the fact that I had Abeline Christian in my bracket)
Like Wojo, I do not believe his career is over by any means. But he needs to get his reboot somewhere else, NOT on MU's dime or time.
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ACU leads the country in forcing turns. Tex and Shaka had a really bad night but I'm not sure I'd glean too much on one performance.
One performance?
See this:
It's really spooky how similar Shaka's Texas post-season compares to Wojo. Shaka is just a touch better.
Wojo, 2 NCAAs, both one and dones. Shaka, 3 NCAAs, all one and dones.
Wojo, 1 NIT, won a couple games .. Shaka, 1 NIT, won it.
Shaka better .. not by much. I guess that's what you get for $3.2m?
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Funny comment on the Texas Board:
"Not fair when you draw Northern Iowa and Abilene Christian. Guy can’t get a break."
Unfair that they drew a team that has only been in D1 for about 8 years.
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This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.
Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:
Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.
Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.
Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.
Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.
People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.
Texas Tech turned it over on 25% of their possessions against ACU. The Wildcats were #1 in defensive turnover percentage. That said, Shaka's teams are really weird historically in offensive turnover rate. In 12 seasons, they have been in the top-90 of TO% 9 times. The other three they've been sub-230. That's weird.
ACU was a top-100 team. Wojo lost guarantee games to sub-250 Nebraska-Omaha at home. Not to mention all the DePaul losses, the Belmont loss, the Georgetown loss...this wouldn't make Wojo's top-5.
Shaka still has 7 NCAA wins & a NIT Championship. I'm not sure he's the best choice, but he's definitely not the worst. His teams are always strong defensively & he's a great recruiter. Between Jones' cancer, Roach's injury, and Hayes going from sub-100 recruit to one-and-done, he's had some terrible luck too. Maybe that's karma for his Final Four run, but I'd still be excited to get him.
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I hate Shaka....well actually I think he’s turned the corner...I hate Shaka again.
You’ve played both sides of Shaka....so....you’re right on hiring/firing/loving/hating/ him. Congrats. Blame it on the wife!
You know what, WRFF ... you're right about a lot of that.
But sorry, when you have your best team ever and you are finally gonna prove you are a P6 coach, you can't lose to a D2 team full of midgets. And the way they lost, by getting totally outworked, yes, it changes the equation.
Oh, and Mrs. Shaka can keep enjoying life wherever hubby ends up. I assume it won't be Austin, and I hope it won't be Milwaukee.
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I guess a revision is needed:
NoTaShaka NoTaShaka NoTaShaka
Scoop Der it iz Scoop Der it iz
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Shaka's time in Texas hasn't been stellar. I'm not saying he would be my first choice but I think he would do well att MU.
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You know what, WRFF ... you're right about a lot of that.
But sorry, when you have your best team ever and you are finally gonna prove you are a P6 coach, you can't lose to a D2 team full of midgets. And the way they lost, by getting totally outworked, yes, it changes the equation.
Oh, and Mrs. Shaka can keep enjoying life wherever hubby ends up. I assume it won't be Austin, and I hope it won't be Milwaukee.
Well.. at least you’ll have covered you bases. Can’t lose.
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You know what, WRFF ... you're right about a lot of that.
But sorry, when you have your best team ever and you are finally gonna prove you are a P6 coach, you can't lose to a D2 team full of midgets. And the way they lost, by getting totally outworked, yes, it changes the equation.
Oh, and Mrs. Shaka can keep enjoying life wherever hubby ends up. I assume it won't be Austin, and I hope it won't be Milwaukee.
There's no doubt it was a an atrocious loss but I would appreciate if you didn't belittle diminutive people. :)
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Fun fact:
ACU's backcourt weighs significantly less than Davante circa 2011-2013. :)
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Texas Tech turned it over on 25% of their possessions against ACU. The Wildcats were #1 in defensive turnover percentage. That said, Shaka's teams are really weird historically in offensive turnover rate. In 12 seasons, they have been in the top-90 of TO% 9 times. The other three they've been sub-230. That's weird.
ACU was a top-100 team. Wojo lost guarantee games to sub-250 Nebraska-Omaha at home. Not to mention all the DePaul losses, the Belmont loss, the Georgetown loss...this wouldn't make Wojo's top-5.
Shaka still has 7 NCAA wins & a NIT Championship. I'm not sure he's the best choice, but he's definitely not the worst. His teams are always strong defensively & he's a great recruiter. Between Jones' cancer, Roach's injury, and Hayes going from sub-100 recruit to one-and-done, he's had some terrible luck too. Maybe that's karma for his Final Four run, but I'd still be excited to get him.
I appreciate the data you provide, brew.
I'm gonna disagree that a regular-season loss to DePaul is as bad as an NCAA tournament loss to a 14-seed that was playing D2 ball just a few years ago.
And while you're right about Shaka's bad luck in past seasons, he had a loaded team this year. There is no way to spin that loss IMHO.
Add in the fact that he already said F-U to Marquette once ... and his NCAA tournament success a decade ago doesn't impress me very much.
Having said all that, if Scholl suddenly decides that NCAA tournament success isn't really important and hires Shaka, I will support him, just as I supported Wojo for most of his time at Marquette.
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There's no doubt it was a an atrocious loss but I would appreciate if you didn't belittle diminutive people. :)
Love it.
Short people DO have reason to live, Muggs!
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I appreciate the data you provide, brew.
I'm gonna disagree that a regular-season loss to DePaul is as bad as an NCAA tournament loss to a 14-seed that was playing D2 ball just a few years ago.
And while you're right about Shaka's bad luck in past seasons, he had a loaded team this year. There is no way to spin that loss IMHO.
Add in the fact that he already said F-U to Marquette once ... and his NCAA tournament success a decade ago doesn't impress me very much.
Having said all that, if Scholl suddenly decides that NCAA tournament success isn't really important and hires Shaka, I will support him, just as I supported Wojo for most of his time at Marquette.
I disagree. That team isn't pretty but they're tough. I can't imagine how many turns we would have had against them. They're 25-4 MU82. That means something even in a poor conference.
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I appreciate the data you provide, brew.
I'm gonna disagree that a regular-season loss to DePaul is as bad as an NCAA tournament loss to a 14-seed that was playing D2 ball just a few years ago.
And while you're right about Shaka's bad luck in past seasons, he had a loaded team this year. There is no way to spin that loss IMHO.
Add in the fact that he already said F-U to Marquette once ... and his NCAA tournament success a decade ago doesn't impress me very much.
Having said all that, if Scholl suddenly decides that NCAA tournament success isn't really important and hires Shaka, I will support him, just as I supported Wojo for most of his time at Marquette.
At least Shaka lost in the tournament. Losing to DePaul in 2016, 2018, and 2021 killed Marquette's chances of even playing in it.
The difference is Wojo never had a team good enough to lose this kind of game. He lost worse games in the season to prevent the opportunity.
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Having said all that, if Scholl suddenly decides that NCAA tournament success isn't really important and hires Shaka, I will support him, just as I supported Wojo for most of his time at Marquette.
I agree. I do not think Shaka is the best option, but if he is hired as the coach I will support him.
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At least Shaka lost in the tournament. Losing to DePaul in 2016, 2018, and 2021 killed Marquette's chances of even playing in it.
The difference is Wojo never had a team good enough to lose this kind of game. He lost worse games in the season to prevent the opportunity.
This is a silly argument, brew. Wojo actually had two teams who were good enough to lose NCAA tournament games. He lost one to an eventual Final Four team that was playing in front of a home crowd, and he lost the other to a team led by a player who would be the NBA rookie of the year the following season.
But all that actually sucks, and I can admit it.
Shaka just lost to a team of height-challenged players -- not a one of them who would get a Texas scholly -- at a school that was D2 just 8 years ago. In the process, he was out-coached, his team was outworked, and he had no answers.
8 years, zero NCAA tournament wins.
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Shaka still has 7 NCAA wins & a NIT Championship.
His last NCAA win was 2013. Ick. Oddly, that's also the last year MU had a NCAA tourney win. So, perfect match.
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If we cannot get the home run candidates and we go the mid-major head coach route I honestly think there are 5+ really good candidates.
Moser and Kelsey would be my top 2 but I'm no expert.
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You know what, WRFF ... you're right about a lot of that.
But sorry, when you have your best team ever and you are finally gonna prove you are a P6 coach, you can't lose to a D2 team full of midgets. And the way they lost, by getting totally outworked, yes, it changes the equation.
Oh, and Mrs. Shaka can keep enjoying life wherever hubby ends up. I assume it won't be Austin, and I hope it won't be Milwaukee.
You goofed on Shaka every chance you could go years. Then he succeeded. Then you backed off your Schick.
Flavor of the day.
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You goofed on Shaka every chance you could go years. Then he succeeded. Then you backed off your Schick.
Flavor of the day.
Cool story.
So you would hire Shaka? He is your top choice?
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Cool story.
So you would hire Shaka? He is your top choice?
Who would you hire?
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Who would you hire?
I'd take a run at Beilein, as long as we don't have to hire his son as coach-in-waiting. Beyond that, I admit I honestly don't know. I don't follow these other guys closely enough. Folks I respect like Gates, but I've seen about 10 seconds of Cleveland State basketball. Others I respect like Moser or Kelsey or Smith, but I just don't know enough about what they do.
I'll support whoever we hire, even Shaka. But I have to say that I'm not fond of the idea of firing a guy because he couldn't win an NCAA tournament game in 7 years and turning around and hiring a guy who couldn't win an NCAA tournament game in 8 years - capped by an epic loss to a school that was in D2 just a few years ago. Not to mention he already spurned us once.
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The problem is there are no "home run" hires that MU can realistically make. Every one of them is a gamble.
Gates, Moser, but are unproven gambles at this level.
If Shaka is even available (I think it is likely). Shaka, has proven success, but has struggled at Texas. Moreover, the criticisms of him at Texas are the same as the criticisms of Wojo. Unable to coach an offense, guards standing around, playing 1 on 1 with no identity. Unprepared for games...needs a x's and o's bench coach. Seems odd to fire Wojo and then bring in Shaka.
The advantage of Shaka is instant name recognition, possibly retain some of the core players this year, and easier to recruit transfers. Would he put a established x's and o's coach on the bench with him?
Honestly, glad I'm not the one having to sort through all of this. Probably one of the more important hires at MU in a while, and really a difficult decision. So unless Pitino is walking through the door, this is going to be a tough call and a lot of people will be unhappy no matter what.
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Cool story.
So you would hire Shaka? He is your top choice?
I would defer to you. You have followed Shaka’s ups and downs for years like a school girl left at the prom. And then when Shaka found success....you said you know what? I would certainly love to have the recent success that Shaka has had at Texas. So I guess the real question is Shaka YOUR top choice? You have followed him closer than any other scooper...no question.
He’s not my guy...but your infatuation for the guy is...well...odd.
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The problem is there are no "home run" hires that MU can realistically make. Every one of them is a gamble.
Gates, Moser, but are unproven gambles at this level.
If Shaka is even available (I think it is likely). Shaka, has proven success, but has struggled at Texas. Moreover, the criticisms of him at Texas are the same as the criticisms of Wojo. Unable to coach an offense, guards standing around, playing 1 on 1 with no identity. Unprepared for games...needs a x's and o's bench coach. Seems odd to fire Wojo and then bring in Shaka.
The advantage of Shaka is instant name recognition, possibly retain some of the core players this year, and easier to recruit transfers. Would he put a established x's and o's coach on the bench with him?
Honestly, glad I'm not the one having to sort through all of this. Probably one of the more important hires at MU in a while, and really a difficult decision. So unless Pitino is walking through the door, this is going to be a tough call and a lot of people will be unhappy no matter what.
A very reasonable take, and I'm exactly with you on your last paragraph.
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I would defer to you. You have followed Shaka’s ups and downs for years like a school girl left at the prom. And then when Shaka found success....you said you know what? I would certainly love to have the recent success that Shaka has had at Texas. So I guess the real question is Shaka YOUR top choice? You have followed him closer than any other scooper...no question.
He’s not my guy...but your infatuation for the guy is...well...odd.
Have a nice evening. I wish good health and good fortune to you and your family.
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Who will get the Indiana job and will that impact us? Is there some dark horse sorta left-field candidate we may be considering?
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Who will get the Indiana job and will that impact us? Is there some dark horse sorta left-field candidate we may be considering?
Shaka
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Have a nice evening. I wish good health and good fortune to you and your family.
Classic.
You have hundreds of posts regarding Shaka. It was your favorite pastime for years....More than any other scooper....until he started winning. You can’t deny that.
Don’t ever mention my family again. Cool? Ever.
You’re not anonymous.
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I'll support whoever we hire, even Shaka. But I have to say that I'm not fond of the idea of firing a guy because he couldn't win an NCAA tournament game in 7 years and turning around and hiring a guy who couldn't win an NCAA tournament game in 8 years - capped by an epic loss to a school that was in D2 just a few years ago. Not to mention he already spurned us once.
I think the last sentence is a bigger obstacle than his tourney record at Texas.
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Due to the fickle nature of fandom, shouldn't MU try to land the coach of Abilene Christian?
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It's really spooky how similar Shaka's Texas post-season compares to Wojo. Shaka is just a touch better.
Wojo, 2 NCAAs, both one and dones. Shaka, 3 NCAAs, all one and dones.
Wojo, 1 NIT, won a couple games .. Shaka, 1 NIT, won it.
Shaka better .. not by much. I guess that's what you get for $3.2m?
I think it is easier to recruit talent to a big state school with a football team than it is to recruit to MU.
I think Wojo would do better at Texas.
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If Wojo had Stan at Texas he would of cleaned up pretty well. Hard to compare any of this stuff.
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Smart can recruit, but so could Tom Herman and the alumni really liked how that worked out. Talk about a coaches buyout. I presume Smart is really going to get scrutinized as he exits the plane in Austin and deserving so. I had not realized he had not won an NCAA game there, which is pretty crazy. Don't recall the announcing crew ever bringing that up during broadcast.
The recruits on the team include: (Rivals rankings)
Greg Brown #10
Matt Coleman #46
Andrew Jones #22
Courtney Ramey #42
Jericho Sims #59
Kai Jones #59, different class from Sims
Gerald Liddell #63 (transfer portal)
Per NBA Draft Net for the 2021 draft:
Greg Brown Top 20 pick, he played 6 minutes last night
Kai Jones Lottery pick
Jericho Sims. Second Round pick
With a roster like that, losing to AC and you have an interesting week in Austin.
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Fook it. Let's hire Mark Few, aina?
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4ever
82 cannot rile up the troops with his Wojo getting canned posts, so this is a new attempt to create some action. If he truly would cross Shaka off the list after last night, I am glad he is not running the program.
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Due to the fickle nature of fandom, shouldn't MU try to land the coach of Abilene Christian?
Only if the Oral Roberts coach turns us down.
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Due to the fickle nature of fandom, shouldn't MU try to land the coach of Abilene Christian?
I know you're being a jerk, but my guess is he's going to be coaching somewhere other than ACU next year. They've made the tourney twice in the 4 years they've been D1, finished second in regular season play the last three years, and now have one more NCAAT win than Wojo will probably ever get. We should do better with our hire, but we certainly could do worse.
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4ever
82 cannot rile up the troops with his Wojo getting canned posts, so this is a new attempt to create some action. If he truly would cross Shaka off the list after last night, I am glad he is not running the program.
Goose, I also am glad I'm not running the program.
I liked your argument for Shaka on the other thread, and I've moved over there, too.
Have a great Sunday.
(You too, Doc.)
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Shaka still has 7 NCAA wins & a NIT Championship. I'm not sure he's the best choice, but he's definitely not the worst. His teams are always strong defensively & he's a great recruiter. Between Jones' cancer, Roach's injury, and Hayes going from sub-100 recruit to one-and-done, he's had some terrible luck too. Maybe that's karma for his Final Four run, but I'd still be excited to get him.
Agree, Brew. Shaka has accomplishments (FF, 7 NCAA wins, an NIT Championship and multiple conference tournament championships - including this year’s Big 12 title) and failures (like yesterday). Whether or not he’s the guy is open to debate. Whether his clunkers are better or worse than Wojo’s is, too. What’s not open to debate? Shaka has successes to mitigate his failures. Wojo doesn’t. Any fair comparison of the two rates Shaka light years ahead.
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Fook it. Let's hire Mark Few, aina?
Sorry, according to the Texas board, that's who they are targeting. Well, only if Donovan says no. If Few and Donovan say no, apparently they will settle for Stevens or Wright.
Separate thought. I expect Depaul to try to get involved with Shaka. Donovan is with the Bulls now and is a significant mentor to Shaka, might make being in Chicago (or Milwaukee) more enticing as a reboot.
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I think the realistic name for Texas is Chris Beard.
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I think the realistic name for Texas is Chris Beard.
Possible, but I think Underwood may be more likely.
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Lots of interesting arguments for and against Coach Smart. A big part of me thinks Marquette will not pursue him, if he is even interested. We really do not know what happened is the prior courtship, but I would not be surprised if MU will not go down that road again.
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Agree, Brew. Shaka has accomplishments (FF, 7 NCAA wins, an NIT Championship and multiple conference tournament championships - including this year’s Big 12 title) and failures (like yesterday). Whether or not he’s the guy is open to debate. Whether his clunkers are better or worse than Wojo’s is, too. What’s not open to debate? Shaka has successes to mitigate his failures. Wojo doesn’t. Any fair comparison of the two rates Shaka light years ahead.
Spot on Lenny