Texas Can Keep Shaka

[MU82]

Changed my mind.

How the hell do we fire a guy because he can't win an NCAA tournament game and hire a guy who is 0-fer in 6 years at a place with all the resources Texas has?

I mean Shaka's team was just totally outplayed, outworked and outhustled by a team full of little guys, not a one of them who would sniff a scholly at Texas. AC was D2 just a few years ago, for crissakes.

At least Wojo lost to Ja Morant and to the team that went onto the Final Four ... not that he deserves a banner, but at least he didn't lose to a D2 school.

If I were the Texas AD, I'd have fired Shaka before he got to the locker room. And if I were Scholl, I wouldn't follow one loser by hiring another.

[Silkk the Shaka]

[fjm]

Changed my mind.

How the hell do we fire a guy because he can't win an NCAA tournament game and hire a guy who is 0-fer in 6 years at a place with all the resources Texas has?

I mean Shaka's team was just totally outplayed, outworked and outhustled by a team full of little guys, not a one of them who would sniff a scholly at Texas. AC was D2 just a few years ago, for crissakes.

At least Wojo lost to Ja Morant and to the team that went onto the Final Four ... not that he deserves a banner, but at least he didn't lose to a D2 school.

If I were the Texas AD, I'd have fired Shaka before he got to the locker room. And if I were Scholl, I wouldn't follow one loser by hiring another.

If he woulda made the final
Four this year you’d want him.

So you only want him when you can’t have him?

As I asked
Chi in another thread. Would you take Tony Bennett? He has a national championship!!!

But he also lost to a 16 seed and also blew it today with the every so great 3point shooting transfer.

[forgetful]

Honestly, Shaka's problem at Texas was similar to Wojo's problem. No identity. Both fell in love with recruiting "stars" and didn't have a clear system.

Shaka abandoned havoc, didn't really establish a new identity.

In all honesty, he needs a place to reboot. Get back to his identity.

[5DollarPitcher]

Changed my mind.

One game changed your opinion, eh? You didn’t have your mind made up weeks ago based on his prior body of work, eh? If he won this game you’d still want him, eh?

Very interesting.

[fjm]

Honestly, Shaka's problem at Texas was similar to Wojo's problem. No identity. Both fell in love with recruiting "stars" and didn't have a clear system.

Shaka abandoned havoc, didn't really establish a new identity.

In all honesty, he needs a place to reboot. Get back to his identity.

Well that’s not good then if it’s identity related.

[Tha Hound]

If this season swayed you one way or another on Shaka it’s probably a good thing you have no control over our next decision. He’s been absolute trash for as long as wojo has.

I know we’ve been bad for a long time now but my god, we need to have at least a little respect for ourselves

[MU82]

If he woulda made the final
Four this year you’d want him.

So you only want him when you can’t have him?

As I asked
Chi in another thread. Would you take Tony Bennett? He has a national championship!!!

But he also lost to a 16 seed and also blew it today with the every so great 3point shooting transfer.

This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.

Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:

Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.

Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.

Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.

Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.

People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.

[Silkk the Shaka]

Honestly, Shaka's problem at Texas was similar to Wojo's problem. No identity. Both fell in love with recruiting "stars" and didn't have a clear system.

Shaka abandoned havoc, didn't really establish a new identity.

In all honesty, he needs a place to reboot. Get back to his identity.

Correct. It should be done elsewhere rather than at MU. Just like Wojo can make another school pay for his reclamation project.

[fjm]

This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.

Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:

Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.

Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.

Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.

Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.

People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.

Fair. I appreciate the opinion and reasonings behind how you feel on that.

[MU82]

If this season swayed you one way or another on Shaka it’s probably a good thing you have no control over our next decision. He’s been absolute trash for as long as wojo has.

I know we’ve been bad for a long time now but my god, we need to have at least a little respect for ourselves

Well said.

He already said, "F-U, Marquette, I ain't goin' there."

So now, after he's done absolutely NOTHING in the 7 years since he told us to go to h-e-double-hockey-sticks, we're gonna give him $4 million a year?

No effen way. You're right, Hound ... we gotta have some respect.

[MuggsyB]

This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.

Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:

Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.

Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.

Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.

Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.

People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.

ACU leads the country in forcing turns.  Tex and Shaka had a really bad night but I'm not sure I'd glean too much on one performance.

[GooooMarquette]

I don’t want Shaka, and this season had very little to do with it.

If we are going to have a coach who recruits a bunch of talented players but can’t win in March, I would rather have kept Wojo and watched DJ, DG and JFL develop the next couple of seasons.

[CountryRoads]

I would rather have kept Wojo and watched DJ, DG and JFL develop the next couple of seasons.

Absolutely zero guarantee this would have happened anyway.

[GooooMarquette]

Absolutely zero guarantee this would have happened anyway.

No guarantee, but a much better chance with the coach who recruited them.

[mu_hilltopper]

It's really spooky how similar Shaka's Texas post-season compares to Wojo.  Shaka is just a touch better.

Wojo, 2 NCAAs, both one and dones.  Shaka, 3 NCAAs, all one and dones.

Wojo, 1 NIT, won a couple games .. Shaka, 1 NIT, won it.

Shaka better .. not by much.  I guess that's what you get for $3.2m?

[We R Final Four]

I hate Shaka....well actually I think he’s turned the corner...I hate Shaka again.

You’ve played both sides of Shaka....so....you’re right on hiring/firing/loving/hating/ him. Congrats. Blame it on the wife!

[MuggsyB]

Shaka taking questions right now on CBSSN.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Changed my mind.

How the hell do we fire a guy because he can't win an NCAA tournament game and hire a guy who is 0-fer in 6 years at a place with all the resources Texas has?

I mean Shaka's team was just totally outplayed, outworked and outhustled by a team full of little guys, not a one of them who would sniff a scholly at Texas. AC was D2 just a few years ago, for crissakes.

At least Wojo lost to Ja Morant and to the team that went onto the Final Four ... not that he deserves a banner, but at least he didn't lose to a D2 school.

If I were the Texas AD, I'd have fired Shaka before he got to the locker room. And if I were Scholl, I wouldn't follow one loser by hiring another.

Makes you wonder if the interviewing committee changed from last time, hey?

[NickelDimer]

This thread is, how you say, wishy washy?

[MarquetteMike1977]

SHAKA SHOCKED

[Silkk the Shaka]

This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.

Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:

Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.

Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.

Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.

Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.

People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.

Yes! Z-E-R-O fundamentals or team basketball on display. Made me want to puke (aside from the fact that I had Abeline Christian in my bracket)

Like Wojo, I do not believe his career is over by any means. But he needs to get his reboot somewhere else, NOT on MU's dime or time.

[MU82]

ACU leads the country in forcing turns.  Tex and Shaka had a really bad night but I'm not sure I'd glean too much on one performance.

One performance?

See this:

It's really spooky how similar Shaka's Texas post-season compares to Wojo.  Shaka is just a touch better.

Wojo, 2 NCAAs, both one and dones.  Shaka, 3 NCAAs, all one and dones.

Wojo, 1 NIT, won a couple games .. Shaka, 1 NIT, won it.

Shaka better .. not by much.  I guess that's what you get for $3.2m?

[forgetful]

Funny comment on the Texas Board:

"Not fair when you draw Northern Iowa and Abilene Christian. Guy can’t get a break."

Unfair that they drew a team that has only been in D1 for about 8 years.

[brewcity77]

This isn't about Tony Bennett, it's about Shaka Smart.

Think of the crud that drove us nuts during the Wojo era:

Turnovers ... Texas had 23 today, including 11 by his star backcourt.

Inexplicable losses ... This would have been the worst loss of Wojo's career.

Standing around on offense while one guy chucks it ... Texas did that repeatedly; they just had different guys take turns going 1-on-1.

Team getting outworked ... but at least not by a D2 team.

People talk about optics. Well, how do you fire a loser and then hire this guy? Zero NCAA tournament wins in the last 8 years. C'mon, man.

Texas Tech turned it over on 25% of their possessions against ACU. The Wildcats were #1 in defensive turnover percentage. That said, Shaka's teams are really weird historically in offensive turnover rate. In 12 seasons, they have been in the top-90 of TO% 9 times. The other three they've been sub-230. That's weird.

ACU was a top-100 team. Wojo lost guarantee games to sub-250 Nebraska-Omaha at home. Not to mention all the DePaul losses, the Belmont loss, the Georgetown loss...this wouldn't make Wojo's top-5.

Shaka still has 7 NCAA wins & a NIT Championship. I'm not sure he's the best choice, but he's definitely not the worst. His teams are always strong defensively & he's a great recruiter. Between Jones' cancer, Roach's injury, and Hayes going from sub-100 recruit to one-and-done, he's had some terrible luck too. Maybe that's karma for his Final Four run, but I'd still be excited to get him.