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Title: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2021, 12:51:28 PM
Enjoying the news, but probably a lot of transfers out in the immediate future.

But hey, it a #donedeal time to become Marquette basketball again
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: Farley36 on March 19, 2021, 12:52:08 PM
It was already going to be bumpy next year just like the last 7 years.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: 5DollarPitcher on March 19, 2021, 12:52:13 PM
Stop this. This attitude is what gave us Wojo for 7 years.

Just win baby.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 19, 2021, 12:52:24 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2021, 12:51:28 PM
Enjoying the news, but probably a lot of transfers out in the immediate future.

But hey, it a #donedeal time to become Marquette basketball again

Hope we hire a big enough splash to keep core kids in house
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: IrwinFletcher on March 19, 2021, 12:52:34 PM
Exactly.  Will be a massive departure of players.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: panda on March 19, 2021, 12:52:38 PM
The future is now.

Better than spinning the tires for one more season with a lame duck coach.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: cheebs09 on March 19, 2021, 12:52:56 PM
I'm ready for it. I didn't have a lot of optimism for next year as it was with Wojo as coach.

Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: CountryRoads on March 19, 2021, 12:53:43 PM
Oh well. This program needed a shake up.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: MuggsyB on March 19, 2021, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2021, 12:51:28 PM
Enjoying the news, but probably a lot of transfers out in the immediate future.

But hey, it a #donedeal time to become Marquette basketball again

No doubt but we will handle it.  Good times are on the horizon for the Warriors.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 19, 2021, 12:54:29 PM
Best year to reload in many.  No restrictions on transfers in.  Record number of players in the portal.  Opportunity for quick rebuild better than ever. 

That's the other side of the coin.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: Shark on March 19, 2021, 12:54:38 PM
There is like 1000 players in the transfer portal. New coach could have a decent roster year one.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: We R Final Four on March 19, 2021, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: panda on March 19, 2021, 12:52:38 PM
The future is now.

Better than spinning the tires for one more season with a lame duck coach.
Agreed. Moving on. I'm a season ticket holder again!
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2021, 12:55:09 PM
Quote from: panda on March 19, 2021, 12:52:38 PM
The future is now.

Better than spinning the tires for one more season with a lame duck coach.

Agree. Just look at what happened with the Bears this offseason trying to hold everything together for one more season.

But it isn't gonna be a pretty season next year but better start sooner than later.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: MUCam on March 19, 2021, 12:55:25 PM
Interestingly, even if we lose everyone (we won't), this might be the perfect year to move with free years and free transfers.

If ever we could piece together a team in a hurry it would be this year with transfers not sitting out.

Need to get a coach and staff in place quickly.

Beilein would make me so happy, but anyone please and soon!
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: CountryRoads on March 19, 2021, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 19, 2021, 12:54:29 PM
Best year to reload in many.  No restrictions on transfers in.  Record number of players in the portal.  Opportunity for quick rebuild better than ever. 

That's the other side of the coin.

Right...we didn't have much to lose to begin with. Carton was rumored to be going pro, Lewis was rumored to transfer, Garcia would have maybe been here one more year? That wasn't your typical young core of players. Seemed they all had one foot out the door anyway. And who cares on the incoming recruits.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: forgetful on March 19, 2021, 12:57:59 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 19, 2021, 12:51:28 PM
Enjoying the news, but probably a lot of transfers out in the immediate future.

But hey, it a #donedeal time to become Marquette basketball again

I understand why MU decided to move on, but I have my concerns on whether this was the year to do it. We might need to prepare for a bumpy 2021-2024.

This is a huge hire. If there was ever a time for MU to break the bank on a big well-known hire, it is this year. We need someone that can come in, take the reigns, and command instant respect.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: Johnny B on March 19, 2021, 12:58:48 PM
could be no one back next year
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: We R Final Four on March 19, 2021, 01:00:07 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 19, 2021, 12:56:59 PM
Right...we didn't have much to lose to begin with. Carton was rumored to be going pro, Lewis was rumored to transfer, Garcia would have maybe been here one more year? That wasn't your typical young core of players. Seemed they all had one foot out the door anyway. And who cares on the incoming recruits.
Yeah....who cares about MUBB commits?
🙄
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: SWARM! on March 19, 2021, 01:03:21 PM
Thank you for the heads up.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 19, 2021, 03:46:22 PM
It will depend on the hire. If the new coach can keep the big 3, keep mitchell/Aidoo, and make up a supporting cast of returning players and/or transfers, they could be good again next season. Smart money is that the new coach won't be able to do all of that so we are likely in for at least a year possible 2-3 of rebuild. Either way, it was the right call.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: panda on March 19, 2021, 03:47:54 PM
There are already record numbers of players in the transfer portal. This is the best year to make a move if you want to compete right away with a new roster.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: JakeBarnes on March 19, 2021, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 19, 2021, 03:46:22 PM
It will depend on the hire. If the new coach can keep the big 3, keep mitchell/Aidoo, and make up a supporting cast of returning players and/or transfers, they could be good again next season. Smart money is that the new coach won't be able to do all of that so we are likely in for at least a year possible 2-3 of rebuild. Either way, it was the right call.

Deep down I am hoping we find a home run hire that can do that. It'll mean the AD actually hired someone that is exciting and matches the vision of how we think Marquette should be acting in the realm of the NCAAB world.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 03:50:39 PM
Quote from: panda on March 19, 2021, 03:47:54 PM
There are already record numbers of players in the transfer portal. This is the best year to make a move if you want to compete right away with a new roster.

I know you believe this, and I know you can point to one example where transfers are winning, but it is very uncommon to bring a team together that way.  K & Cal could barely win with stacked rosters this year.

My only point being, expectations for MU next year are a completely unknown right now.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 19, 2021, 03:50:59 PM
If Scholl can get a hire like Duffy was for the Women's Basketball team, it will be a grand slam. 
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: avid1010 on March 19, 2021, 03:55:17 PM
I'm looking forward to watching a coach that can coach, watching players develop, etc.  There was no hope with Wojo.  Liked him and his players...but it wasn't going to happen.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: panda on March 19, 2021, 03:55:26 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on March 19, 2021, 03:50:39 PM
I know you believe this, and I know you can point to one example where transfers are winning, but it is very uncommon to bring a team together that way.  K & Cal could barely win with stacked rosters this year.

My only point being, expectations for MU next year are a completely unknown right now.

Unknown is fine with me now. Better than lower half of the BE for the foreseeable future.

Maybe we can be Arkansas. That is the way college basketball roster building is moving. It's year over year, not four year classes. Wojo never could manage that.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 19, 2021, 03:46:22 PM
It will depend on the hire. If the new coach can keep the big 3, keep mitchell/Aidoo, and make up a supporting cast of returning players and/or transfers, they could be good again next season. Smart money is that the new coach won't be able to do all of that so we are likely in for at least a year possible 2-3 of rebuild. Either way, it was the right call.

The "Big Three" gave us a losing season, though. I don't see it as a big loss if we rebuild without this year's core. There's a lot to like about each of those guys individually, but things just didn't come together this year enough.

The transfer portal will be a wild ride this year. Leverage that as much as possible. There are a ton of guys who'd love to play in the Big East in the nicest hoops arena in the country. Shouldn't be that tough of a sell.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 04:21:14 PM
The "Big Three" gave us a losing season, though.

Young players usually improve, sometimes by a lot.

They already are good college players; they have a high ceiling.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 19, 2021, 06:07:30 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 05:01:51 PM
Young players usually improve, sometimes by a lot.

They already are good college players; they have a high ceiling.

...and with a new coach that can actually teach them a system of play rather than just standing around to make the desperation shot in the final seconds as the shot clock winds down.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 06:15:59 PM
Quote from: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 05:01:51 PM
Young players usually improve, sometimes by a lot.

They already are good college players; they have a high ceiling.

I generally agree with this. But somehow, the sum of these parts weren't quite what I would have expected. Lots of factors in play, but I still think we can rebound with a very different roster if need be.

I would love to have DJ, Lewis, and Garcia back next year and for years to come, but I can also get on board with new guys given the situation.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 19, 2021, 06:23:51 PM
I don't really follow these guy in social media...has anyone commented?
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 19, 2021, 06:50:15 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 04:21:14 PM

The "Big Three" gave us a losing season, though. I don't see it as a big loss if we rebuild without this year's core. There's a lot to like about each of those guys individually, but things just didn't come together this year enough.




But that that was on the coach. Or so I read thousands of times the past few weeks.

DJ, DG and JFL are remarkably talented players, and we could be pretty good if the new coach could keep them around. I'm not holding my breath, but a good core exists if we get the right coach.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2021, 07:04:43 PM
The door swings both ways. Playas come and go, hey?
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 19, 2021, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2021, 07:04:43 PM
The door swings both ways. Playas come and go, hey?

Knew a girl at MU who can speak for hours on this topic
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: MU82 on March 19, 2021, 07:17:27 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on March 19, 2021, 06:15:59 PM
I generally agree with this. But somehow, the sum of these parts weren't quite what I would have expected. Lots of factors in play, but I still think we can rebound with a very different roster if need be.

I would love to have DJ, Lewis, and Garcia back next year and for years to come, but I can also get on board with new guys given the situation.

Well, sure. I'll support whoever wears the blue and gold, too. Glad you agree about DJ, Lewis and Garcia, though.
Title: Re: Prepare for a bumpy 2021-22
Post by: Badgerhater on March 19, 2021, 07:47:32 PM
Optimism and growth go hand in hand and winning should follow.  There was neither if MU kept its previous coach.
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