should we play at the FiServ? Why not just play at the Al. It would be cheaper, yes? What procedures would be in place if any players test positive? Would the league play in places like the Rock, MSG, at NOVA and UCONN where COVID cases are still much higher that the rest of the country?
Just wondering how all this would work.
Seems like we just had a season with almost no fans.
Wth would we have no fans?? Just stupid. If u go to the game u assume the risk if ur afraid of the risk dont show up. Should be the really really simple policy
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 02:16:48 PM
Wth would we have no fans?? Just stupid. If u go to the game u assume the risk if ur afraid of the risk dont show up. Should be the really really simple policy
And then when those who are big tough guys go and contract covid and then get together with their snowflake friends and give it to them...
I know you think the world revolves around you but sometimes there are bigger things in life than your own self interest and your own entertainment.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 02:16:48 PM
Wth would we have no fans?? Just stupid. If u go to the game u assume the risk if ur afraid of the risk dont show up. Should be the really really simple policy
Wow. Just wow.
I just hope we have a season period.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 19, 2020, 04:34:18 PM
I just hope we have a season period.
Yes, at least we would be able to watch on tv
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 19, 2020, 04:34:18 PM
I just hope we have a season period.
With all the athletes testing positive recently, I'm not sure we will have sports for awhile. I'm getting less optimistic about the NBA.
Ya european soccer leagues are really struggling. smh
Quote from: wadesworld on June 19, 2020, 02:21:10 PM
And then when those who are big tough guys go and contract covid and then get together with their snowflake friends and give it to them...
I know you think the world revolves around you but sometimes there are bigger things in life than your own self interest and your own entertainment.
We should pass a law that every has to move into a selected closet and not come out for 6 months. The hysteria has to end at some point the massive overreaction cannot e allowed to corrupt everything. You are no where as close to as smart as you think you are. So very uninformed.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 06:57:37 PM
We should pass a law that every has to move into a selected closet and not come out for 6 months. The hysteria has to end at some point the massive overreaction cannot e allowed to corrupt everything. You are no where as close to as smart as you think you are. So very uninformed.
That is a compliment coming from you. Thank you.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 06:53:28 PM
Ya european soccer leagues are really struggling. smh
1) we don't live in Europe.
2) how are the crowds for European soccer games? Pretty rowdy I bet. Mr. Informed.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 06:53:28 PM
Ya european soccer leagues are really struggling. smh
Well, they flattened the curve and followed the science. We followed the doofus who can't use stairs
No fans kinda kills the vibe of the season. No season and I'm gonna need some SSRIs
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 06:53:28 PM
Ya european soccer leagues are really struggling. smh
https://twitter.com/aslavitt/status/1274112422064898055?s=21
This is why you should be shaking your head. Their leadership was solid, thorough and believed in science. Their citizens respected what they had to say.
So they get to have sports. Hopefully we will too but the lack of leadership and discipline from Americans makes me doubt we will.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 06:53:28 PM
Ya european soccer leagues are really struggling. smh
No fans Mr informed
Such a dumb response and so obtuse. Italy, Spain and other European countries are very small geographically relative to the US.
US doesnt have a bell curve because it takes so long for the "wave" to cross the US. While cases have plummeted in the East they are rising in the West. CNN trumpets that cases are on the rise in California, Texas and Arizona. They are actually surprised by this, are you really. Who isnt lustening to science? It is 1800 miles from NYC to texas, 2800 miles Nyc to CA. The wave takes a while.
Additionally testing is far more prevelant now so the peak was far far higher than the graph represents and therefore the fall far far greater. Sorry if the facts dont match ur second wave or political beliefs. Bottom line, in many peoples minds every thing Trump did is wrong therefore even when he does something right it is still wrong. Very close minded and obtuse, frankly the signs of a dumb person. Sorry U are who u are, must be difficult.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 08:53:51 PM
Such a dumb response and so obtuse. Italy, Spain and other European countries are very small geographically relative to the US.
US doesnt have a bell curve because it takes so long for the "wave" to cross the US. While cases have plummeted in the East they are rising in the West. Additionally testing is far more prevelant now so the peak was far far higher than the graph represents and therefore the fall far far greater. Sorry if the facts dont match ur second wave or political beliefs. Bottom line, in many peoples minds every thing Trump did is wrong therefore even when he does something right it is still wrong. Very close minded and obtuse, frankly the signs of a dumb person. Sorry U are who u are, must be difficult.
The European Union has 50% more people yet has about a fourth of the daily new cases. And you're going to spin this as a matter of geography? Lol.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 08:53:51 PM
Such a dumb response and so obtuse. Italy, Spain and other European countries are very small geographically relative to the US.
US doesnt have a bell curve because it takes so long for the "wave" to cross the US. While cases have plummeted in the East they are rising in the West. CNN trumpets that cases are on the rise in California, Texas and Arizona. They are actually surprised by this, are you really. Who isnt lustening to science? It is 1800 miles from NYC to texas, 2800 miles Nyc to CA. The wave takes a while.
Additionally testing is far more prevelant now so the peak was far far higher than the graph represents and therefore the fall far far greater. Sorry if the facts dont match ur second wave or political beliefs. Bottom line, in many peoples minds every thing Trump did is wrong therefore even when he does something right it is still wrong. Very close minded and obtuse, frankly the signs of a dumb person. Sorry U are who u are, must be difficult.
No sh!t there is no second wave. We haven't even stopped the first wave.
I actually think you are dumb enough that you think the "wave" is covid just migrating from the Eastern part of the country to the Western part of the country lol.
Let me guess. You buy into Trump's statement that if we just stop testing people Covid will go away in the US! No cases of covid! Just stop testing!
Good news teens! You can't get pregnant if you just don't use a pregnancy test!
Really sad, i hope ur more successful in ur professional life than u come off.
Trust me i know all about genomic sequencing and how the waves, yes waves, the same term used by science and the experts, track thru rna mutations. So if u dont believe its moving in a wave, again not my term, then thats on you.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 19, 2020, 01:29:10 PM
should we play at the FiServ? Why not just play at the Al. It would be cheaper, yes? What procedures would be in place if any players test positive? Would the league play in places like the Rock, MSG, at NOVA and UCONN where COVID cases are still much higher that the rest of the country?
Just wondering how all this would work.
We don't know, muw69.
The NBA, NHL, MLB, NFL and college football all will be trying to restart long before college basketball does, so we should be able to get a pretty good idea how all those questions you're asking will be answered.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 02:16:48 PM
Wth would we have no fans?? Just stupid. If u go to the game u assume the risk if ur afraid of the risk dont show up. Should be the really really simple policy
So what you are proposing is people taking responsibility for their own freely chosen actions? Madness!!!
https://www.ajc.com/sports/clemson-football-players-have-tested-positive-for-coronavirus/VYOyISyos55LxN19q6YKcN/
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 09:27:53 PM
Really sad, i hope ur more successful in ur professional life than u come off.
Trust me i know all about genomic sequencing and how the waves, yes waves, the same term used by science and the experts, track thru rna mutations. So if u dont believe its moving in a wave, again not my term, then thats on you.
No, you obviously do not.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 08:53:51 PM
Such a dumb response and so obtuse. Italy, Spain and other European countries are very small geographically relative to the US.
US doesnt have a bell curve because it takes so long for the "wave" to cross the US. While cases have plummeted in the East they are rising in the West. CNN trumpets that cases are on the rise in California, Texas and Arizona. They are actually surprised by this, are you really. Who isnt lustening to science? It is 1800 miles from NYC to texas, 2800 miles Nyc to CA. The wave takes a while.
Additionally testing is far more prevelant now so the peak was far far higher than the graph represents and therefore the fall far far greater. Sorry if the facts dont match ur second wave or political beliefs. Bottom line, in many peoples minds every thing Trump did is wrong therefore even when he does something right it is still wrong. Very close minded and obtuse, frankly the signs of a dumb person. Sorry U are who u are, must be difficult.
So hideously ignorant. The "wave" did not start in NY and move west. Cases started in NY, Cali, Washington, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc., etc.
Covid was brought to the US mainly by business people returning from China. It was helped by people returning from Europe once they got hit. All businessmen did not live in NY.
Quote from: McLintock on June 19, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
So what you are proposing is people taking responsibility for their own freely chosen actions? Madness!!!
It is a sad time we live in. Political zombies, politics and fear have decimated common sense and rational thought, assuming they had any in the first place.
Quote from: McLintock on June 19, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
So what you are proposing is people taking responsibility for their own freely chosen actions? Madness!!!
So here are some basketball players scrimmaging with no masks or social distancing. Is that madness? In the other thread we are all excited to see one of our own players competing well against NBA players. To take it one step further should one of our basketball players be disciplined by the coach for not following the mandated best practices due to the pandemic? Is he taking responsibility for his own actions? On the other hand how could he pass up an opportunity to scrimmage with NBA players? If I were him I would jump at the chance, but I am not him. I'm just a 73 year old fart who wears a mask when I go to the grocery store because I am one those who are at greater risk for serious complications, not some young athletes even if they contract the virus will recover.
https://painttouches.com/2020/06/19/dexter-akanno-shows-out-in-scrimmage-against-nba-players/
Quote from: McLintock on June 19, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
So what you are proposing is people taking responsibility for their own freely chosen actions? Madness!!!
I agree with this completely. Of course "my actions" include the possibility of infecting others even if I am not aware I have the disease. So the risk isn't just about catching it, it's about spreading it. That's the problem with this disease and why having fans in the stands is so problematic.
Those states that are peaking or have remained level, relative to positivity rate, are still in their 1st wave. Majority of them have either "recommended" wearing masks or opened the floodgates in poor reopenings. California, Arizona, Texas, Florida, etc. A mask should be required and now many of them recently are requiring them as of this week. Health experts are being ignored or muted altogether and have made this political..which not everything has to be. For some reason this is hard for some people to grasp in our current climate.
I am not hopeful for any collegiate sports for more than just the pandemic. Collegiate athletes are finally realizing the power they hold as evidenced by UCLA and Texas football players stances and demands. There could be some major changes to college sports as a result.
Watching some EPL right now. No fans.
'Black lives matter' on the back of all the jerseys.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 20, 2020, 03:21:28 AM
It is a sad time we live in. Political zombies, politics and fear have decimated common sense and rational thought, assuming they had any in the first place.
From Mr. Common Sense himself.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 20, 2020, 03:21:28 AM
It is a sad time we live in. Political zombies, politics and fear have decimated common sense and rational thought, assuming they had any in the first place.
I suspect we define political zombies, politics, fear, the end of common sense and rational thought differently.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 20, 2020, 03:21:28 AM
It is a sad time we live in. Political zombies, politics and fear have decimated common sense and rational thought, assuming they had any in the first place.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.
Quote from: damuts222 on June 20, 2020, 07:27:08 AM
Those states that are peaking or have remained level, relative to positivity rate, are still in their 1st wave. Majority of them have either "recommended" wearing masks or opened the floodgates in poor reopenings. California, Arizona, Texas, Florida, etc. A mask should be required and now many of them recently are requiring them as of this week. Health experts are being ignored or muted altogether and have made this political..which not everything has to be. For some reason this is hard for some people to grasp in our current climate.
I am not hopeful for any collegiate sports for more than just the pandemic. Collegiate athletes are finally realizing the power they hold as evidenced by UCLA and Texas football players stances and demands. There could be some major changes to college sports as a result.
They should stand up and demand the destruction of the billions of dollars of free education provided to them. Tear down the entire system. Heck make it like Europe where there are no intercollegiate sports. Then they can pay their own way thru college and truly make it equitable and remove all privilege. Here here!
Reading through this thread just reinforces my profound disappointment with where this country is today. How sad it is that instead of bonding together to fight the virus we have chosen instead to politicize the pandemic. How stupid is that? Perhaps the EU did better because they're not as factional and divided as we are.
I just don't see how a season could logistically ever work without at least one solid treatment or preventive option available. And preferably more than one. There is a critical mass of players that can get sick without the whole thing shutting down. Maybe two or three sick at any given time, the season rolls on? How about six or seven, does that suspend all play? How about when they return from suspending play & someone gets sick again, how do they not just shut the whole season down?
We aren't even playing sports right now & we're currently past that critical mass. Let alone playing an indoor sport in the winter that requires significant travel.
I see some sports as fundamentally different. Professional baseball, tennis, golf etc can take extreme measures. College sports can remove fans, but they can't remove travel, contact, etc. College sports also have the custodial aspect moreso than professional sports.
Also, I know UA & others are fiddling with masks for athletes, primarily seems to be for working out as of now (feel free to correct me if you know more). Would student athletes be willing to all wear masks during actual games, if it were possible to develop a satisfactory solution? I assume the mask would likely need to be clear, allow breathability & moisture-wicking, but also a very tight fit. So I'm not even sure if it's physically possible, but, I'm also not an engineer.
I don't think we'll have the big sports in the fall. That being NFL, CFB, or basketball. Seeing that report from the Clemson outbreak, I mean how could we risk it. No need as this thing still seems very much alive. Perhaps the steroid treatment could help but need more data.
Bunch o' wimps. Let the players, coaches, support staff and fans come on out and take their COVID like men (and women and children). If a few hundred of 'em die, and tens of thousands of 'em suffer some kind of medical condition that will haunt them for the rest of their lives, that's the price they'll have to pay so the rest of us can be entertained.
Quote from: MUeng on June 20, 2020, 03:14:35 PM
I don't think we'll have the big sports in the fall. That being NFL, CFB, or basketball. Seeing that report from the Clemson outbreak, I mean how could we risk it. No need as this thing still seems very much alive. Perhaps the steroid treatment could help but need more data.
Agreed, eng. New cases are rising too fast in too many places. The graph showing new cases in the US vs the EU is staggering.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1273973204047069184
How could 30 LSU football players be quarantined due to covid? Sandknit, Mr. Informed himself, informed everyone that covid is "waving" from East Coast to West Coast and it's already reached the West Coast. Louisiana isn't getting hit! Fake news media has the defending national champion Tigers spooked.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 19, 2020, 07:07:43 PM
Well, they flattened the curve and followed the science. We followed the doofus who can't use stairs
And recommends Clorox.
Quote from: McLintock on June 19, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
So what you are proposing is people taking responsibility for their own freely chosen actions? Madness!!!
That's not how this works at all. If I "take responsibility" and get infected, then come into work and get you infected, or visit my family and get them infected, then other people are paying the consequence because of my "freely chosen actions."
So it's not actually about people taking responsibility for their own actions at all. They are imposing their actions upon others. Pretty sure that's the opposite of freedom.
For those talking about the Premier League, below is an interesting article from a reporter on the process of getting in and the feeling inside the stadium. These protections are occurring despite the fact that the case rate in the UK has steadily gone down for for the past several weeks. IMHO, this scenario (no fans, no direct player interaction) is the best case scenario for college and pro football and basketball for the upcoming season...and I remain skeptical about even that.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4117297/inside-the-premier-league-bubble-a-surreal-ghost-town-where-you-have-to-bring-your-own-sandwiches
Quote from: wadesworld on June 20, 2020, 04:20:40 PM
How could 30 LSU football players be quarantined due to covid? Sandknit, Mr. Informed himself, informed everyone that covid is "waving" from East Coast to West Coast and it's already reached the West Coast. Louisiana isn't getting hit! Fake news media has the defending national champion Tigers spooked.
Twisted
Quote from: GooooMarquette on June 21, 2020, 02:59:36 PM
For those talking about the Premier League, below is an interesting article from a reporter on the process of getting in and the feeling inside the stadium. These protections are occurring despite the fact that the case rate in the UK has steadily gone down for for the past several weeks. IMHO, this scenario (no fans, no direct player interaction) is the best case scenario for college and pro football and basketball for the upcoming season...and I remain skeptical about even that.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4117297/inside-the-premier-league-bubble-a-surreal-ghost-town-where-you-have-to-bring-your-own-sandwiches
Yea, I think that there are a few key pieces of information that the people that are saying "just look at European soccer" might be omitting.
First; while it is true that some leagues have resumed, there have also been multiple leagues that have said that it isn't safe enough and have cancelled the remainder of their seasons.
Second, they are resuming a season that is about 75% complete. Just looking at the Premier League, the first games back were only June 17th, and the league concludes on July 18th. Only having games for 1 month (in the middle of summer no less) is less risky than attempting to have a season from November through March.
Third; while it is uncommon, there is a precedent in the United States for having seasons cancelled (lockouts, strikes etc.). There hasn't really been a precedent for stopping an in progress European season since WWII.
Fourth; while I'm sure that the $$$ lost is a huge concern for sports across the planet, when there are relegation systems in place, cancelling an in progress season gets just that many more headaches.
I truly hope that there is a College Basketball Season this winter, and I truly hope that our country is in a position where fans can attend. I just don't think that we will get there in the next 5 months. I think the best case scenario is that a full season can be completed without fans in attendance. Would love to be wrong, and be able to safely attend games, but think there is a higher chance that the entire season gets cancelled than an entire season at full capacity.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 19, 2020, 02:16:48 PM
Wth would we have no fans?? Just stupid. If u go to the game u assume the risk if ur afraid of the risk dont show up. Should be the really really simple policy
I wish I could say this level of idiocy coming from you is surprising but it's really pretty predictable.
Quote from: Its DJOver on June 21, 2020, 03:36:13 PM
Yea, I think that there are a few key pieces of information that the people that are saying "just look at European soccer" might be omitting.
First; while it is true that some leagues have resumed, there have also been multiple leagues that have said that it isn't safe enough and have cancelled the remainder of their seasons.
Second, they are resuming a season that is about 75% complete. Just looking at the Premier League, the first games back were only June 17th, and the league concludes on July 18th. Only having games for 1 month (in the middle of summer no less) is less risky than attempting to have a season from November through March.
Third; while it is uncommon, there is a precedent in the United States for having seasons cancelled (lockouts, strikes etc.). There hasn't really been a precedent for stopping an in progress European season since WWII.
Fourth; while I'm sure that the $$$ lost is a huge concern for sports across the planet, when there are relegation systems in place, cancelling an in progress season gets just that many more headaches.
I truly hope that there is a College Basketball Season this winter, and I truly hope that our country is in a position where fans can attend. I just don't think that we will get there in the next 5 months. I think the best case scenario is that a full season can be completed without fans in attendance. Would love to be wrong, and be able to safely attend games, but think there is a higher chance that the entire season gets cancelled than an entire season at full capacity.
The other thing to consider is that futbol players are not in contact or in close proximity to each other for much of the game, unlike basketball or football.
All I'm gonna say is if they play games without fans DePaul could win it all—they have a lot of experience under those conditions.
Quote from: The Thing on June 21, 2020, 06:51:09 PM
All I'm gonna say is if they play games without fans DePaul could win it all—they have a lot of experience under those conditions.
This is absolutely priceless! Well played. 8-)
The article quoted above on espn.com had another below it... with an odd outcome of this coronavirus situation:
https://www.espn.com/soccer/russian-premier-league/story/4116677/how-russian-champions-league-hopefuls-rostov-were-forced-to-send-kids-out-for-10-1-loss
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 21, 2020, 03:57:26 PM
I wish I could say this level of idiocy coming from you is surprising but it's really pretty predictable.
So true. The professional players who get paid can't even agree and this dimwit is fine pushing students out there.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 20, 2020, 03:21:28 AM
It is a sad time we live in. Political zombies, politics and fear have decimated common sense and rational thought, assuming they had any in the first place.
To be clear....Dr. Fauci is a political zombie and you know more than him? Just checking...
Quote from: avid1010 on June 21, 2020, 07:32:02 PM
To be clear....Dr. Fauci is a political zombie and you know more than him? Just checking...
He's a fake news snowflake lib. Or something like that.
One of the things being overlooked in college sports is the need to isolate. European soccer teams were required to isolate for 2 weeks before the season resumed and were tested daily. If one player on the team tests positive the entire team is put back in quarantine for two weeks. In the 2. Bundesliga Dynamo Dresden had this happen and had to postpone their first three matches, to make up these matches they had to play 3 additional "English weeks", weeks with games in the middle, to make up the games. A team in the Russian Super League had had to use it's youth team since the senior team is currently quarantined. The NBA and NHL are doing similar mandatory isolation periods before they attempt to resume.
How does a college team isolate, the players are still supposed to go to class and intermingle wit the rest of the student body. Many universities have said if no students are on campus then there will be no sports. What would be the point of making the athletes attend "virtual class" if you were not going to allow athletics without students on campus?
Quote from: MUMonster03 on June 22, 2020, 06:37:08 AMOne of the things being overlooked in college sports is the need to isolate.
This is why I'm still pessimistic on a season. Maybe starting after Thanksgiving when the rest of campus goes on winter break, but no one has addressed how college sports will do the things you are suggesting. Pro sports can isolate their players and teams. So can a league like TBT. But when you have to go to class regularly, that's just not a reality.
Quote from: MUMonster03 on June 22, 2020, 06:37:08 AMHow does a college team isolate, the players are still supposed to go to class and intermingle wit the rest of the student body.
TBT just removed a team after players tested positive. If quarantined teams can't stay uninfected, what hope so colleges have?
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 22, 2020, 07:00:25 AM
This is why I'm still pessimistic on a season. Maybe starting after Thanksgiving when the rest of campus goes on winter break, but no one has addressed how college sports will do the things you are suggesting. Pro sports can isolate their players and teams. So can a league like TBT. But when you have to go to class regularly, that's just not a reality.
When you first said something along these lines a month or two ago, brewski, I was one of the folks who gently pushed back, saying I thought they'd find a way to have a season.
Like you, I am now seriously doubting that it will be possible.
Bill Plaschke has a pretty devastating but realistic look at the situation:
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/jun/20/bill-plaschke-sports-leagues-playing-the-most-dang/
I think college football is in serious jeopardy. The season is supposed to start up in a couple of months, and I can't really see how it is going to work. How do the players even get together to practice. You can't keep the players isolated, and you only need a couple rouge players doing something they aren't supposed to and infecting the entire team.
The NFL can do a better job mandating that the only places players can go is home and the workplace. It's their job. That simply can't work with a college football team.
Basketball MAY be possible because you could perhaps isolate the squad apart from the rest of the student body, but I don't even know how that is going to play out.
It always seems possible that these things are going to come together a few months out, but as you get closer and closer, and it becomes aparent how relentless this virus is and how poorly we have responded to it, you begin to realize how logistically difficult all of this is.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 22, 2020, 01:18:55 PM
I think college football is in serious jeopardy. The season is supposed to start up in a couple of months, and I can't really see how it is going to work. How do the players even get together to practice. You can't keep the players isolated, and you only need a couple rouge players doing something they aren't supposed to and infecting the entire team.
The NFL can do a better job mandating that the only places players can go is home and the workplace. It's their job. That simply can't work with a college football team.
Basketball MAY be possible because you could perhaps isolate the squad apart from the rest of the student body, but I don't even know how that is going to play out.
It always seems possible that these things are going to come together a few months out, but as you get closer and closer, and it becomes aparent how relentless this virus is and how poorly we have responded to it, you begin to realize how logistically difficult all of this is.
Well, there's a solution to some of the black-and-white issues we're facing in society today. Make 'em all rouge!
Just having some fun, and I agree totally with your point. It doesn't even have to be a couple of rogue players. They are college kids. Asking them to stay in a bubble is totally unrealistic. They could do
exactly what they are supposed to do - such as attend class - and end up with the virus.
Der won't bee kollege sportz in Fall, hey?
If there is constant testing for all athletes, there is no way NCAA sports will be played in 2020 or even 2021. There is simply no way you are going to get to zero positive tests for multiple teams on the schedule throughout the year. It will be impossible to completely stop the spread.
The only way that changes is if society/NCAA/schools collectively get to the point that they acknowledge & accept there are going to be positive cases but they're going to play on regardless and just do their best to identify it, contain it, and treat it when necessary. I don't see the media letting that happen, though.
Quote from: GrimmReaper33 on June 22, 2020, 03:36:33 PM
If there is constant testing for all athletes, there is no way NCAA sports will be played in 2020 or even 2021. There is simply no way you are going to get to zero positive tests for multiple teams on the schedule throughout the year. It will be impossible to completely stop the spread.
The only way that changes is if society/NCAA/schools collectively get to the point that they acknowledge & accept there are going to be positive cases but they're going to play on regardless and just do their best to identify it, contain it, and treat it when necessary. I don't see the media letting that happen, though.
"The media?"
I get what you are saying about society getting to a certain point, but it there are a lot of public health officials that aren't going to be pleased if we just say "screw it, let's play anyway." That's going to have an enormous impact on a health care system that won't be able to handle that kind of spread.
Not sure why the media is to blame here.
You gotta be extremely ignorant, or flat out dumb, to think college sports will happen without a vaccine or a proven treatment process. The tough guy mentality of stay home or its my choice to go is insanely stupid. Classic cause and effect here. You go, if you get sick, you can spread it on. You're doing society a massive disservice putting your head in the sand.
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 22, 2020, 11:15:05 AM
TBT just removed a team after players tested positive. If quarantined teams can't stay uninfected, what hope so colleges have?
Ugh! Not looking good for this fall and winter.
It will be interesting to see what happens with the NBA trying to quarantine in the middle of a hot zone.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 22, 2020, 03:50:14 PM
"The media?"
I get what you are saying about society getting to a certain point, but it there are a lot of public health officials that aren't going to be pleased if we just say "screw it, let's play anyway." That's going to have an enormous impact on a health care system that won't be able to handle that kind of spread.
Not sure why the media is to blame here.
Didn't blame the media. In fact, I would say it's part of their job.
Was just saying even in a hypothetical situation of NCAA and schools getting on board with just playing, the media would drag them for it every step of the way until they caved and just shut it down.
Quote from: GrimmReaper33 on June 22, 2020, 03:36:33 PM
If there is constant testing for all athletes, there is no way NCAA sports will be played in 2020 or even 2021. There is simply no way you are going to get to zero positive tests for multiple teams on the schedule throughout the year. It will be impossible to completely stop the spread.
The only way that changes is if society/NCAA/schools collectively get to the point that they acknowledge & accept there are going to be positive cases but they're going to play on regardless and just do their best to identify it, contain it, and treat it when necessary. I don't see the media letting that happen, though.
Yep pretty rational solution.... but then the media gets involved. Media is a kind word for it
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 22, 2020, 05:09:18 PM
Yep pretty rational solution.... but then the media gets involved. Media is a kind word for it
Follow your leader - blame it on the Media. Such blind allegiance.
Quote from: GrimmReaper33 on June 22, 2020, 05:09:00 PM
Didn't blame the media. In fact, I would say it's part of their job.
Was just saying even in a hypothetical situation of NCAA and schools getting on board with just playing, the media would drag them for it every step of the way until they caved and just shut it down.
In other words, they would report it. They would do their job.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 22, 2020, 05:09:18 PM
Yep pretty rational solution.... but then the media gets involved. Media is a kind word for it
Keep your Trump crap somewhere else.
Quote from: Jockey on June 22, 2020, 05:15:13 PM
In other words, they would report it. They would do their job.
I don't think he disagrees with you.
Without a bulletproof treatment and/or a vaccine, I cannot see college sports starting up. Certainly not with a stadium of 17000 people. How can they? Tough times.
Quote from: Daniel on June 23, 2020, 12:25:56 AM
Without a bulletproof treatment and/or a vaccine, I cannot see college sports starting up. Certainly not with a stadium of 17000 people. How can they? Tough times.
Another thing, besides the how do you isolate a football/basketball team and still have them feel like they are in college, is the age of a lot of the basketball coaches. Many of them are in the high risk area and have had health problems already. I'm no expert on any of their health, but a high stress job as a D1 coach and a resurgence, if it ever drops off in the first place, this winter could be a disaster waiting to happen.
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 22, 2020, 05:54:26 PM
I don't think he disagrees with you.
I think we all agree that the media would simply be doing its job. And in this case - absent a miracle cure in the next few weeks - the media's job would be to report on the substantial risks involved in proceeding with the season.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on June 23, 2020, 09:26:00 AM
I think we all agree that the media would simply be doing its job. And in this case - absent a miracle cure in the next few weeks - the media's job would be to report on the substantial risks involved in proceeding with the season.
Under the guise of doing this they would also be pushing a liberal left political agenda. Unfortunately, objectivity has left journalism and they are now at best political machines. Wben their guy was in power everything was amazing n done perfectly, now that he is not...the opposite. Its unfortunate for everyone
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 23, 2020, 01:53:21 PM
Under the guise of doing this they would also be pushing a liberal left political agenda. Unfortunately, objectivity has left journalism and they are now at best political machines. Wben their guy was in power everything was amazing n done perfectly, now that he is not...the opposite. Its unfortunate for everyone
What does a supposedly liberal media have to do with this topic at hand? Having sporting events, with or without fans in the stands, isn't a political topic. Or it shouldn't be.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 23, 2020, 01:53:21 PM
Under the guise of doing this they would also be pushing a liberal left political agenda. Unfortunately, objectivity has left journalism and they are now at best political machines. Wben their guy was in power everything was amazing n done perfectly, now that he is not...the opposite. Its unfortunate for everyone
"Objectivity leaving journalism" equates to journalists factually reporting on the inane behavior of your guy.
Sad!
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 23, 2020, 01:53:21 PM
Under the guise of doing this they would also be pushing a liberal left political agenda. Unfortunately, objectivity has left journalism and they are now at best political machines. Wben their guy was in power everything was amazing n done perfectly, now that he is not...the opposite. Its unfortunate for everyone
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.
Quote from: MU82 on June 23, 2020, 02:18:32 PM
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.
I finally get it. He doesn't have any clever quips so he doesn't feel the need to keep them to himself. Or it's the lack of a clever mind...
Quote from: MU82 on June 23, 2020, 02:18:32 PM
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.
Beat me to it.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on June 23, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
What does a supposedly liberal media have to do with this topic at hand? Having sporting events, with or without fans in the stands, isn't a political topic. Or it shouldn't be.
We agree on this, unfortunately the opposite is the case.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on June 23, 2020, 02:13:42 PM
"Objectivity leaving journalism" equates to journalists factually reporting on the inane behavior of your guy.
Sad!
Second one to say Trump is my guy because my call for rationality doesnt meet their tinfoil hat viewpoint
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on June 23, 2020, 04:14:03 PM
Second one to say Trump is my guy because my call for rationality doesnt meet their tinfoil hat viewpoint
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Don't flatter yourself
Quote from: MU82 on June 23, 2020, 02:18:32 PM
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.
Is his defense he said "clever quips". I'm not sure sandy does clever