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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: TallTitan34 on March 12, 2020, 06:46:09 PM

Title: Selection Sunday
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 12, 2020, 06:46:09 PM
Several reporters on Twitter are saying head coaches are petitioning the NCAA to still have Selection Sunday at a minimum, then possibly look at having the tournament later if conditions are suitable.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 12, 2020, 06:48:15 PM
Ain't going to happen.

But cancelling all springs sports is crazy. That could potentially be reversed. 
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: The Sultan on March 12, 2020, 06:52:39 PM
Coaches need to coach and let others manage the rest of this.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: The Sultan on March 12, 2020, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 12, 2020, 06:48:15 PM
Ain't going to happen.

But cancelling all springs sports is crazy. That could potentially be reversed. 

Not with schools and conferences cancelling playing.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Galway Eagle on March 12, 2020, 06:53:45 PM
Coaches have bonuses in their contracts for making the tournament so of course they're petitioning.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 12, 2020, 07:00:17 PM
If they go through with this, will Dukie V still spend the next couple of days whining about the teams that got snubbed? Will he tell us where the great matchups and upsets will be?
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 12, 2020, 07:02:54 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 12, 2020, 07:00:17 PM
If they go through with this, will Dukie V still spend the next couple of days whining about the teams that got snubbed? Will he tell us where the great matchups and upsets will be?
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: mu_hilltopper on March 12, 2020, 07:04:01 PM
They should release a bracket.  Let people have a morsel of fun in this sea of doom.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: bilsu on March 12, 2020, 07:09:17 PM
I wonder how many, if any, coaches have a contract that gives them a bonus if they make the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2020, 07:12:02 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 12, 2020, 07:09:17 PM
I wonder how many, if any, coaches have a contract that gives them a bonus if they make the NCAA tournament.

most, some upwards of six figures.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: wadesworld on March 12, 2020, 07:13:09 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 12, 2020, 07:09:17 PM
I wonder how many, if any, coaches have a contract that gives them a bonus if they make the NCAA tournament.

Probably most.

If there was any chance of playing it at a later date they would've announced it was suspended and then cancelled it when the time approached if still needed. Ain't happening. And if it's cancelled don't hurt everyone and release a bracket that will never be played.

Texted with the last volleyball kid I coached that is still playing in the NCAA right now. He said I probably know just as much as they do, but it appears to be over. He's a senior and was having an All American level season on a team ranked 6th in the country. He seems devastated. Luckily for him, if he wants to, he'll have professional opportunities and get to keep playing. Other seniors will will not.

This absolutely sucks for the kids.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: The Sultan on March 12, 2020, 07:30:21 PM
I would guess most schools would pay a tournament bonus if they were solidly in.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Boston Warrior on March 12, 2020, 07:34:54 PM
I believe they will have a selection even if no tournament...

Such a void in ratings
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on March 12, 2020, 07:35:53 PM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2020, 07:12:02 PM
most, some upwards of six figures.

Boo frickin hoo for those poor coaches.

I'm not a pay the players guy, but have very little sympathy for college & pro coaches, pro players and owners of pro teams that have billions, but the hourly stiffs working concessions, tickets, etc are the ones that will suffer.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: jesmu84 on March 12, 2020, 08:18:15 PM
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 12, 2020, 07:35:53 PM
Boo frickin hoo for those poor coaches.

I'm not a pay the players guy, but have very little sympathy for college & pro coaches, pro players and owners of pro teams that have billions, but the hourly stiffs working concessions, tickets, etc are the ones that will suffer.

Yup. Thankful for Mark Cuban, Kevin love and others
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 12, 2020, 08:20:02 PM
Quote from: Boston Warrior on March 12, 2020, 07:34:54 PM
I believe they will have a selection even if no tournament...

Such a void in ratings

If they do it won't be accurate. The season wasn't completed. Maybe SLU would have won the A-10 again (giving the A10 more bids and bumping Xavier), or Jackson State would have won the SWAC. Dayton could have lost and dropped to a 2 seed. Maybe St John's would have won the BE. Any selection would have to have an asterisk next to it.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on March 13, 2020, 07:51:57 AM
So next year all teams will have to begin a new streak of making consecutive tournaments?
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 13, 2020, 08:21:48 AM
Yeah, I don't really care about coaches getting their bonuses.  I was just posting this as I thought still going forward with Selection Sunday is a good idea.  It at least would give a little closure to a season that ended quickly.  It doesn't really affect us much as we were a lock, but for smaller schools and bubble teams it would be nice for them to see if they got an at-large bid.

At least teams would know they were or were not a tournament team in 2020.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: BallBoy on March 13, 2020, 09:26:28 AM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 13, 2020, 08:21:48 AM
Yeah, I don't really care about coaches getting their bonuses.  I was just posting this as I thought still going forward with Selection Sunday is a good idea.  It at least would give a little closure to a season that ended quickly.  It doesn't really affect us much as we were a lock, but for smaller schools and bubble teams it would be nice for them to see if they got an at-large bid.

At least teams would know they were or were not a tournament team in 2020.

I think that it is only fair for the kids to be able to hear their name.  I think it is fair for the coaches as it reflects on their resume. 
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 13, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
Jesus wept, give us something...We're dying out here
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: BrewCity83 on March 13, 2020, 12:08:07 PM
Quote from: Greggery Peccary on March 13, 2020, 07:51:57 AM
So next year all teams will have to begin a new streak of making consecutive tournaments?

No, because there is no 2020 tournament.  A streak going through 2019 would still be in tact if the team makes it in 2021, but they just can't add a year for 2020 because there's no tournament to "make".

Nevertheless, I would like to see the brackets done this year, just to see it and to give the kids a chance to see what they earned for their hard work all year.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 13, 2020, 01:54:44 PM
I hope they do while fully recognizing that there is an asterisks on because of potential bid thieves. At least recognize what the players, especially the seniors, earned this season.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: brewcity77 on March 13, 2020, 02:43:47 PM
Norlander reporting they may still release a bracket and that there were considerations to hold a voluntary one-weekend, 16-team Tournament (sounds like that won't go forward).
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: CountryRoads on March 13, 2020, 03:24:30 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 13, 2020, 02:43:47 PM
Norlander reporting they may still release a bracket and that there were considerations to hold a voluntary one-weekend, 16-team Tournament (sounds like that won't go forward).

It's likely I'm not for this just because we wouldn't be included, but I cringed at the 16 team tournament idea. I'd imagine team #17 would be pretty pissed. They may as well just let everyone play at that point.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 13, 2020, 03:29:38 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 13, 2020, 02:43:47 PM
Norlander reporting they may still release a bracket and that there were considerations to hold a voluntary one-weekend, 16-team Tournament (sounds like that won't go forward).

Stupid.  You're down to 16 teams within 4 days.  Just play the unnatural carnal knowledgeing first round, and then go from there.  A lot easier to put 16 teams on hold than 68 teams. 
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 13, 2020, 03:30:59 PM
I am so hard up for sports, I have NASCAR reruns on the TV running where the BET games should be. Run the show, please.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: auburnmarquette on March 13, 2020, 03:32:19 PM
Would be nice to do just to recognize the teams. What else are coaches going to do now that they've been banned from even recruiting?
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Eldon on March 13, 2020, 04:49:06 PM
Quote from: auburnmarquette on March 13, 2020, 03:32:19 PM
Would be nice to do just to recognize the teams. What else are coaches going to do now that they've been banned from even recruiting?

Recruit HARDER
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 13, 2020, 05:55:23 PM
If they are going to release anything, they should release the full list that includes all small conference champions, plus all teams the committee thinks were "on the bubble." That would end up being more than 68, but since you never know how "bubble" teams were going to do in their conference tournaments, give them the benefit of the doubt.

After all, if we're gonna give kids the benefit of hearing their team called out as recognition for a job well done, we should also avoid unnecessarily breaking the heart of kids on teams that earned their way to the bubble, but didn't have the opportunity to get over the top with a win or two in a conference tournament.

And please, please don't give seeds or "matchups" for a tournament that will never be played.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: auburnmarquette on March 13, 2020, 05:57:58 PM
Agreed - a "could have played their way even without winning conference tourney" type of bubble.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 13, 2020, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: bilsu on March 12, 2020, 07:09:17 PM
I wonder how many, if any, coaches have a contract that gives them a bonus if they make the NCAA tournament.

give 'em all a trophy ;)
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: keefe on March 14, 2020, 12:02:11 PM
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 12, 2020, 06:52:39 PM
Coaches need to coach and let others manage the rest of this.

Not sure why this should be the case. Genius is genius.

Why, I let Leonardo DiCaprio guide many, if not most, of our investment decisions on renewable energy technology and projects.

WWLDCD?
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Elonsmusk on March 14, 2020, 12:39:13 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 13, 2020, 04:49:06 PM
Recruit HARDER

Excellent!
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: CountryRoads on March 15, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
Not that it's a surprise, but the NCAA officially announced they will not be releasing a bracket this year. Personally, I thought it would have been a nice touch to do so but in the end it wouldn't have made much difference.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Nukem2 on March 15, 2020, 01:57:43 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 15, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
Not that it's a surprise, but the NCAA officially announced they will not be releasing a bracket this year. Personally, I thought it would have been a nice touch to do so but in the end it wouldn't have made much difference.
Though, it would have given a bit of closure to the season as well as something to talk about given the lack of games.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 15, 2020, 04:00:52 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 15, 2020, 01:57:43 PM
Though, it would have given a bit of closure to the season as well as something to talk about given the lack of games.

Ditto.
And with no sports for a few weeks it would have at least provided something to talk about for a few days.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Eldon on March 15, 2020, 04:32:52 PM
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 15, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
Not that it's a surprise, but the NCAA officially announced they will not be releasing a bracket this year. Personally, I thought it would have been a nice touch to do so but in the end it wouldn't have made much difference.

How could they have done this? 

They would have needed to know who won each conference tournament.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 15, 2020, 04:37:07 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 15, 2020, 04:32:52 PM
How could they have done this? 

They would have needed to know who won each conference tournament.

Just use regular season winners.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: The Sultan on March 15, 2020, 04:39:33 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 15, 2020, 04:37:07 PM
Just use regular season winners.


Right.  It would only have been a theoretical excercise anyway.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: brewcity77 on March 15, 2020, 04:40:03 PM
Quote from: Eldon on March 15, 2020, 04:32:52 PM
How could they have done this? 

They would have needed to know who won each conference tournament.

Most conferences were announcing the auto bid went to the regular season champ. That's what I did with my bracket. I don't believe any top seeds were knocked out prior to Thursday in tournaments that weren't decided.
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 15, 2020, 04:57:24 PM
If you need a Selection Sunday fix, I'm doing old Marquette Selection Sunday clips and bracket breakdowns on @MUOverload today.

http://www.twitter.com/MUOverload
Title: Re: Selection Sunday
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on March 19, 2020, 01:02:45 PM
"Devastated and relieved': March Madness broadcasters on tournament cancellation



https://theathletic.com/1673707/2020/03/13/devastated-and-relieved-march-madness-broadcasters-on-tournament-cancellation/?source=twittered
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