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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: NCMUFan on March 12, 2020, 02:41:53 PM
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of the 2019-2020 BB season. Wojo bashers have at it if that is any console to you. Enjoy yourself. I will drop in occasionally to see if anything significant has transpired.
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And another non winning post season under the belt.
Feel sorry for Villanova and Providence the most. I thought those were the 2 teams from Big East that had best chance to go deep, based on how they were playing.
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Sucks for Dayton & San Diego State fans.
Their once in a lifetime seasons end.
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And another non winning post season under the belt.
Feel sorry for Villanova and Providence the most. I thought those were the 2 teams from Big East that had best chance to go deep, based on how they were playing.
So negative. Just like Marquette Football is undefeated since 1960, MU basketball went undefeated in to 2020 NCAA Postseason.
Don’t forget about Seton Hall or Creighton. Both had solid teams that could make a run. seton hall loses a lot next year and this could have been the year the Creighton and McDermott got to the Sweet Sixteen.
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So negative. Just like Marquette Football is undefeated since 1960, MU basketball went undefeated in to 2020 NCAA Postseason.
Don’t forget about Seton Hall or Creighton. Both had solid teams that could make a run. seton hall loses a lot next year and this could have been the year the Creighton and McDermott got to the Sweet Sixteen.
Perhaps. I'm curious to see if the NCAA would continue with the tournament if it could be played over the summer or late spring.
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And Markus gets stuck just outside the all-time top 20 scorers.
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Next season up, hey?
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Perhaps. I'm curious to see if the NCAA would continue with the tournament if it could be played over the summer or late spring.
Over the summer while seniors and draft picks are playing in the NBA summer league or others are trying to make Euro rosters, not to mention what teams do the transfers play for? ::) maybe late spring but even that'd be tough with finals and people trying to gauge whether to leave early etc.
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I'd be surprised if they pickup the tournament after graduation in May.
Perhaps a chance to run something in a month or so. But there are a lot of logistics that would go into rescheduling the entire thing.
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NCAA has canceled winter and spring Athletics.
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I'd be surprised if they pickup the tournament after graduation in May.
Perhaps a chance to run something in a month or so. But there are a lot of logistics that would go into rescheduling the entire thing.
Just been officially cancelled for all D1 sports.
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So negative. Just like Marquette Football is undefeated since 1960, MU basketball went undefeated in to 2020 NCAA Postseason.
Don’t forget about Seton Hall or Creighton. Both had solid teams that could make a run. seton hall loses a lot next year and this could have been the year the Creighton and McDermott got to the Sweet Sixteen.
Creighton will be just fine
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RIP Arena Sports
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Next year projections http://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php
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So negative. Just like Marquette Football is undefeated since 1960, MU basketball went undefeated in to 2020 NCAA Postseason.
Don’t forget about Seton Hall or Creighton. Both had solid teams that could make a run. seton hall loses a lot next year and this could have been the year the Creighton and McDermott got to the Sweet Sixteen.
Hard to feel bad about two programs that committed recruiting violations to get to the level they were at this season.
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And another non winning post season under the belt.
Ranks right up there with your dumbest comments ever.
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Sucks for Dayton & San Diego State fans.
Their once in a lifetime seasons end.
You can add many more to that list. Very disappointing on so many levels.
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Next year projections http://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php
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Dook at 46?
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Next year projections http://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php
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Ohhhh, I'd like to bet on that.
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Ohhhh, I'd like to bet on that.
Too low or too high?
I'd say 80-100 and a .500 record. We loose a lot and Wojo's freshman have been lackluster.
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Too low or too high?
I'd say 80-100 and a .500 record. We loose a lot and Wojo's freshman have been lackluster.
Markus, Sam, Joey, Henry and Haanif were all pretty solid their freshman years. I mean defensively we'll probably be trash but Wojo freshmen have been better than any I can remember going back to 2008-09
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Markus, Sam, Joey, Henry and Haanif were all pretty solid their freshman years. I mean defensively we'll probably be trash but Wojo freshmen have been better than any I can remember going back to 2008-09
4 out what?20? And we are not getting anyone as highly regarded as Henry in this class.
I'm not trying to bash on Wojo, I'm trying to realistic with the expectations. I think it is unfair, to Wojo and the players, to go into next season expecting we are close to a bubble team. Maybe some want to set the bar high so Wojo will fall short.
This years team was heading for a 10 seed and we are going to take a significant step back (unless you don't think highly of Howard, Anim and Jayce).
Whether Wojo is dong a good job or should be shown the door can be discussed elsewhere, I'm just looking at coaching and talent.
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4 out what?20? And we are not getting anyone as highly regarded as Henry in this class.
I'm not trying to bash on Wojo, I'm trying to realistic with the expectations. I think it is unfair, to Wojo and the players, to go into next season expecting we are close to a bubble team. Maybe some want to set the bar high so Wojo will fall short.
This years team was heading for a 10 seed and we are going to take a significant step back (unless you don't think highly of Howard, Anim and Jayce).
Whether Wojo is dong a good job or should be shown the door can be discussed elsewhere, I'm just looking at coaching and talent.
I'm seeing 15 (changed to 15 when I forgot Dex and Ike) freshmen wojos brought here I believe 5 or 6 looked ready for D1, albeit incomplete as almost all Frosh do, but ready.
You figure for freshmen Wojo has had: Sandy 0/1, hank, Matt, haani, sacar 2/4, Markus, Sam 2/2, Greg, Jamal, Theo, Ike 0/4, Brendan, Joey 1/2, dexter, symir 1/2
Realistically I expect Dawson to contribute and hope Lewis and Oso to at least be a respectable freshman I believe Lewis can do it due USA basketball pedigree. We'll take a step back but still have a 23yr old jr, 3 seniors, and a fifth year senior. I'm hopeful that age can overcome in combination of the talent from the freshmen
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this could derail or delay some NBA aspirations. plus side-some good returning players who might have left school early. question-would dwade have jumped ship had MU been 1 or 2 and done? depends on how he showed in those 2 games? maybe even vander woulda stayed sans the tournament
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Too low or too high?
I'd say 80-100 and a .500 record. We loose a lot and Wojo's freshman have been lackluster.
An accurate assessment. Most freshman don't have much of an impact in terms of winning right away or dominating. Garcia may be ahead of the curve a bit, but this team won't be competitive in the least. The only chance they have to win is if they play collective defense well. This is going to be one of the worst offensive teams to watch in MU history.
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There actually might not be a basketball season next year. Not sure when this virus will actually end. We do know there is a flu season every year and basically next years flu is a mutation of this year's flu. Next year could actually be worse.
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There actually might not be a basketball season next year. Not sure when this virus will actually end. We do know there is a flu season every year and basically next years flu is a mutation of this year's flu. Next year could actually be worse.
This says it ALL.
As a part time resident in Bergamo, I can say uniquivically, most Americans have no idea what is going on.
When they closed the La Scala (23rd February) my wife came home. The load factor on United flights to and from Milano have been 20% for weeks.
1918 flu killed my grandmother, 20 to 50 million worldwide died. We worry about basketball and politics while the world moves on. What's the plan?
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i'm sorry to hear about grandma, but come on vogue-1918? really? i think we've made some medical, technological advancements since then. let's at least stay in the same century or within 50 years or so
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i'm sorry to hear about grandma, but come on vogue-1918? really? i think we've made some medical, technological advancements since then. let's at least stay in the same century or within 50 years or so
Thank you for your condolences, my father was 5 when his mother passed. My father died at 90 and I'm 76, time flys.
The key number is the number of ventalators in America, 60 to 70,000.
What does medical and technological advancements mean in respect to a virus? It means we have many more people living who are medically compromised.
So, if 20,000,000 died in 1918 and we can now keep seriously sick people alive with ventilators 70,000 we only lose 19,000,000. A pandemic is still a pandemic., 1918, 1965, 2020, no matter.
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yes, but the evolution of vaccines? after the first one(smallpox 1796) it took until 1914-pertussis, 1926-dipthria, 1938-tetanus. combined in 1948 to become the DPT vaccine. so in the span of 20 years, 3 vaccines were developed. prior to that, what did we have? some moldy bread? i understand your point of having a more populous globe, but technology has allowed us to make more, faster and distribute it quicker just to summarize
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yes, but the evolution of vaccines? after the first one(smallpox 1796) it took until 1914-pertussis, 1926-dipthria, 1938-tetanus. combined in 1948 to become the DPT vaccine. so in the span of 20 years, 3 vaccines were developed. prior to that, what did we have? some moldy bread? i understand your point of having a more populous globe, but technology has allowed us to make more, faster and distribute it quicker just to summarize
It is always interesting getting into a conversation with you. You are talking about vaccines, I'm talking about ventalators. You are talking about tetanus I'm talking about a pandemic. You might as well talk about PET or CAT scans while I talk about time release medications.
Just to summarise, trying to talk with you makes me crazy. Stay well, we all love you. Goodbye.
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Well, with no more games left this season I guess UConn is officially on the schedule now.
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"What does medical and technological advancements mean in respect to a virus? It means we have many more people living who are medically compromised."
with all due respect mr V, if you are going to analogize 2018 and the numbers of infected people in juxtaposition to 2020, the medical advancements and technology have to be part of the discussion. if i am understanding what your point is, just the means to get a vaccine from point A to point B has to be part of the equation if you are to say the shear numbers of infected have gone up since early 20th century. plus we've advanced beyond ventilators. they are not a solution, but part of the solution
sorry if i riled you so early but if you are on the east coast, it's only a couple hours until noon ;)
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I think his point was that we are giving people longer lives in general, but we are creating more immuno compromised people as as result. If it were 1960, both my father and my mother-in-law would be dead right now due to various illnesses they have had. I wouldn't worry about them getting the flu because...well...they're dead.
But now I worry because medicine has kept them alive, and are much more susceptible to the virus.
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I think his point was that we are giving people longer lives in general, but we are creating more immuno compromised people as as result. If it were 1960, both my father and my mother-in-law would be dead right now due to various illnesses they have had. I wouldn't worry about them getting the flu because...well...they're dead.
But now I worry because medicine has kept them alive, and are much more susceptible to the virus.
medicine has kept them alive to get hit by a bus or light rail too. we evolve, the strong survive but will always be vulnerable to "something" unforeseen.
medicines, vaccines and antibiotics are just some of the ways we evolve with the mutations, if you will, of the environment we live in
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Perhaps this will be the impetus for big pharma to further develop antiviral drugs.
We have the horsepower to develop these drugs, the issue is there has been no economic benefit to develop a treatment for viruses since the disruption to daily life is so small from any of them.
If a new virus is going to circulate every spring and fall that will effectively shut down the global economy for months at a time, I have to believe this will be a major economic driver for large scale development of antiviral drugs.
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Thank you for your condolences, my father was 5 when his mother passed. My father died at 90 and I'm 76, time flys.
The key number is the number of ventalators in America, 60 to 70,000.
What does medical and technological advancements mean in respect to a virus? It means we have many more people living who are medically compromised.
So, if 20,000,000 died in 1918 and we can now keep seriously sick people alive with ventilators 70,000 we only lose 19,000,000. A pandemic is still a pandemic., 1918, 1965, 2020, no matter.
I can see this is going no where with you.
I'll just state, you are wrong. Medical advances and practices have increased in the last 102 years. We know how diseases spread.
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And another non winning post season under the belt.
Feel sorry for Villanova and Providence the most. I thought those were the 2 teams from Big East that had best chance to go deep, based on how they were playing.
How'd LaSalle's season go? A very smart person told me their coach should be on Marquette's short list.
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I can see this is going no where with you.
I'll just state, you are wrong. Medical advances and practices have increased in the last 102 years. We know how diseases spread.
No where with me, O.K..
You are correct, 90 % of medical education is diagnostic. Got it.
We know how diseases spread, isn't that great? Now what is the treatment? What is the plan? We have the diagnosis.
As my doctor once said, "some people think they can live forever". In Bergamo the medically compromised are getting ready to die.
How many ventilators, ICU beds, how many elderly infected? How many medically compromised citizens?
How FAST can the industrial base start turning out cheap and dirty ventalators? When do we stop elective surgery? When does the Department of Commerce issue DX Rated Contracts for ventilators? When does the U.S.Army Natic Soldiers Systems Center kick in?
What is FEMA doing, field hospitals, where is the USS HOPE?
I know, you are getting no where with me.
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No where with me, O.K..
You are correct, 90 % of medical education is diagnostic. Got it.
We know how diseases spread, isn't that great? Now what is the treatment? What is the plan? We have the diagnosis.
As my doctor once said, "some people think they can live forever". In Bergamo the medically compromised are getting ready to die.
How many ventilators, ICU beds, how many elderly infected? How many medically compromised citizens?
How FAST can the industrial base start turning out cheap and dirty ventalators? When do we stop elective surgery? When does the Department of Commerce issue DX Rated Contracts for ventilators? When does the U.S.Army Natic Soldiers Systems Center kick in?
What is FEMA doing, field hospitals, where is the USS HOPE?
I know, you are getting no where with me.
They are and available. Demand is very high as you can imagine as hospitals are looking for back up just in case.
But they exist.
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They are and available. Demand is very high as you can imagine as hospitals are looking for back up just in case.
But they exist.
That's good news and important.
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Creighton will be just fine
Agree - commentators were talking about Creighton and Seton Hall as potential final 4 surprises. Would have crushed ESPN to have that kind of a year for the big east
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And another non winning post season under the belt.
Feel sorry for Villanova and Providence the most. I thought those were the 2 teams from Big East that had best chance to go deep, based on how they were playing.
Wojo dodged a bullet.
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Agree - commentators were talking about Creighton and Seton Hall as potential final 4 surprises. Would have crushed ESPN to have that kind of a year for the big east
zegarowski picked a good time to have knee surgery-didn't know his bro was michael carter-williams and a twin bro who plays for franklin-pierce?
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Wojo dodged a bullet.
I would agree. I felt like other teams in the conference had developed enough cohesiveness and familiarity to pick apart MU at will. Given this blueprint, the only team MU had a shot at winning against in the tourney was someone who poorly defended the perimeter. Otherwise, the strategy is simple: put your best defender on Howard and force the others to have to score.
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I would agree. I felt like other teams in the conference had developed enough cohesiveness and familiarity to pick apart MU at will. Given this blueprint, the only team MU had a shot at winning against in the tourney was someone who poorly defended the perimeter. Otherwise, the strategy is simple: put your best defender on Howard and force the others to have to score.
Please, tell us how you really feel.
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Wojo dodged a bullet.
I disagree. He missed out on the chance to salvage the season. I think everyone expected us to go 0-2 in ugly fashion based on our finish.
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I disagree. He missed out on the chance to salvage the season. I think everyone expected us to go 0-2 in ugly fashion based on our finish.
Perhaps. I saw nothing in this team to think they were winning Thursday. Wishful think on the parts of fans to think this team was suddenly going to beat SH.
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Well, with no more games left this season I guess UConn is officially on the schedule now.
Nutmeg
Personally, I am glad to get them back into the Big East.
What's their plan for football? That's been a train wreck from Day One.
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Nutmeg
Personally, I am glad to get them back into the Big East.
What's their plan for football? That's been a train wreck from Day One.
Keefe,
From what I've read and heard everyone is pretty happy the way the independent schedule is filling up.
The UConn Women BB just signed a multi year $ contract with SNY that was not allowed under the AAC-ESPN deal. The same release said the football team was close to a deal with SNY also.
It was news last week they play an away game at Ohio State in 2025 that pays them almost as much as what they would get in one season from the AAC. Have an away game at Clemson and Michigan also somewhere in the future.
They made a 10 year deal with Army that everyone is happy about. Signed multi year deals old rivals, Syracuse, Boston College and read they were speaking with Pittsburgh. Multi year deal with North Carolina also with some home and homes with Big 10 teams. Got lots of dates with UMass and Liberty also.
https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/uconn/
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An accurate assessment. Most freshman don't have much of an impact in terms of winning right away or dominating. Garcia may be ahead of the curve a bit, but this team won't be competitive in the least. The only chance they have to win is if they play collective defense well. This is going to be one of the worst offensive teams to watch in MU history.
You simply cannot assume that. The variables with 17-21 year-olds from year to year is so volatile. Is it possible, sure, but that’s based almost exclusively on past performance (to say nothing of the unknowns regarding the incoming freshmen). Also, as an aside, you know a grad transfer is coming in.
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You simply cannot assume that. The variables with 17-21 year-olds from year to year is so volatile. Is it possible, sure, but that’s based almost exclusively on past performance (to say nothing of the unknowns regarding the incoming freshmen). Also, as an aside, you know a grad transfer is coming in.
It's not an assumption. It's called being familiar with college basketball, basketball in general, how an offense works, what tools you need to make it work, and analyzing the prospects that have come and gone in the last 20 years. Not to mention, you have a coach that can't coach well offensively. MU utilizes a very basic pick and roll offensive system and rarely deviates from it. Compare that to Villanova's motion offense and it's no contest. Look them up on youtube and you'll see stark differences.
You must factor in that MU doesn't have a consistent shot creator on it's roster for next season. That's huge and allows defenses to stack against any strengths with much room for error. Literally, no one can create his own shot and drive to the hoop which allows opposing defenses to maintain composure and double effectively - if needed.
Furthermore, I've watched tape on Garcia who is their most promising offensive weapon next year. He's Frank Kaminsky like but like any freshman, will have a tough time scoring efficiently-especially since there's not a guard who can take the pressure off of him. Make MU's guards beat you....will be the mantra for other big east teams. Nothing scares you about MU on the perimeter. No one will make a huge jump like Wes Matthews did - why? Because they never had that type of talent to begin with or have shown it in practice. You would have heard rumblings like when Dwayne Wade practiced before he played.
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We heard McEwen was a stud in practice. I guess it helps when your playing against other MU players. ;)
I have no problem with fans thinking the best of their team. There are 150 fan boards, with as smart of fans as we have here, that firmly believe they will be in the NCAA next year. 150>68
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We heard McEwen was a stud in practice. I guess it helps when your playing against other MU players. ;)
I have no problem with fans thinking the best of their team. There are 150 fan boards, with as smart of fans as we have here, that firmly believe they will be in the NCAA next year. 150>68
McEwen showed flashes but he's terrible when driving to the hoop. Not to mention - he got worse as the season progressed. You need consistency to win in the big east. That just doesn't exist here unfortunately.
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This is to: Vogue65
Since your wife has left you, might you have room for a guest? We could walk the walls around the city and then dinner in Milan followed by a trip to La Scala for the featured opera. I am a little short of $$$ however but I am sure that you would be glad to front the cost so you could spend some time with a fellow alum.
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of the 2019-2020 BB season. Wojo bashers have at it if that is any console to you. Enjoy yourself. I will drop in occasionally to see if anything significant has transpired.
Here is another significant tidbit for you: Wojo is not a good coach.
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This is to: Vogue65
Since your wife has left you, might you have room for a guest? We could walk the walls around the city and then dinner in Milan followed by a trip to La Scala for the featured opera. I am a little short of $$$ however but I am sure that you would be glad to front the cost so you could spend some time with a fellow alum.
We are both in N.J.. My post must have been unclear.
I am a retired low-level government bureaucrat and I posted on March 13th about DX rated contracts for stimulating the industrial base to produce needed medical supplies, ventilators, test kits, face shields, body bags, etc.. Today, finally, I read that they are implementing the Defense Production Act, As Amended. Finally.
All our senior leadership, all the generals, know of the act and how to implement it. It is one of the underpinnings of war games.
Now the White House is finally thinking about implementing it. This is what happens when incompetence rules the day.
Some people, a few thousand, know how to make government work.
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An accurate assessment. Most freshman don't have much of an impact in terms of winning right away or dominating. Garcia may be ahead of the curve a bit, but this team won't be competitive in the least. The only chance they have to win is if they play collective defense well. This is going to be one of the worst offensive teams to watch in MU history.
So u have been watching MU hoops for what 4 Years? That is ur history?
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Vogue65 -- You are 100% correct and have a home in Italy near La Scala. You're my IDOL!!!
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Here is another significant tidbit for you: Wojo is not a good coach.
Willie, you may be right or you may be wrong. If Jay Wright was coaching this team, how well would he have done?
In any case I am looking forward to next season. Are you?
Go Marquette!