We got this? I effing hope so. 😱😀
THE ANSWER for SOTG
GO WARRIORS!!!!!
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 07, 2020, 10:52:24 AM
We got this? I effing hope so. 😱😀
THE ANSWER for SOTG
GO WARRIORS!!!!!
Picking John for SOTG. I need synergy
Sacar,Bailey, and Koby picking up right were they left off
Turning it over always helps
Lets keep trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. McEwen is not a point guard. These turnovers are ridiculous and lack of adjustments by Wojo is worse. I'm sure Wojo's coaching point is, we have to play harder.
LOL we are so unbelievably bad
Anyone have a link to a stream?
Anim looks very mentally checked out.
HAHAHAHAHAHA omg this is so embarrassing.
Quote from: MU2007 on March 07, 2020, 11:07:00 AM
Anyone have a link to a stream?
Enjoy your Sat. Just go outside. Not worth your time.
Leave them in Wojo!!
I may have to switch to hard stuff.
Typical mylu. Turnover with no defender
LOL another turnover
We suck
MU is horrible.
This goes sooo much deeper than skill/talent. This team desperately needs a new voice
11-0
Koby the liability McEwen really setting up the offense.
Sacar has to push Bailey to get out on defender lol
This team has given up.
Unbelievably crapty team it's unreal
5 TO's in 4 min >:(
No stream - just getting the gamecast - what in the holy hell is happening?
Hilarious.
F this terrible f'n team...if I'm Wojo...I tell the guys, NO ONE touches the ball except Markus...period. That's part of the reason for the slow starts all the time I think, Markus either tries to get everyone else involved or the other guys force themselves to get involved and this is what we get.
More TO's than shots attempted. They're so tight because their coach is uptight. Honestly, burn this to the ground. Woj can ruin the best players/teams. This is gross.
Quote from: 1SE on March 07, 2020, 11:10:45 AM
No stream - just getting the gamecast - what in the holy hell is happening?
Picture a team that has quit on the season/tuned out the coach and you'll get a sense of what's happened so far
These kids are mentally out of it. It is pitiful to watch
What is MU record at MSG?
Wojo continuing to get lucky and have the teams best player out for the second game in a row.
Quote from: muguru on March 07, 2020, 11:10:56 AM
F this terrible f'n team...if I'm Wojo...I tell the guys, NO ONE touches the ball except Markus...period. That's part of the reason for the slow starts all the time I think, Markus either tries to get everyone else involved or the other guys force themselves to get involved and this is what we get.
The reason for the slow start is he is forcing McEwen to be a point guard and all he does is turn the ball over. No confidence in this team at all. Things could get very ugly.
Sacar is quickly turning into a bottom tier player.
He can't make 3s anymore, turns it over and the layups always suck
Way to go out buddy!
Unfortunately predictable so far. Best move so far was to pull some starters who are already beaten.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 07, 2020, 11:14:10 AM
Sacar is quickly turning into a bottom tier player.
He can't make 3s anymore, turns it over and the layups always suck
Way to go out buddy!
How many good D1 guards have such poor shot mechanics as Anim?
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 11:11:43 AM
Picture a team that has quit on the season/tuned out the coach and you'll get a sense of what's happened so far
Seriously - fire Wojo at half.
Nice response from this group
This is the group that needs to stay in
I dont think MU can win a basketball game with bailey or koby on the floor. It is just that simple
Give up 12-0 run, go on 12-0 run. Wild start.
Why are college coaches so effing coddled? Every other professional coach can get fired mid-season, but heaven forbid we fire some clown making $2MM mid-season.
If one more person says "recruits" I will lose faith in hunanity.
The substitutions are working.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 07, 2020, 11:14:10 AM
Sacar is quickly turning into a bottom tier player.
He can't make 3s anymore, turns it over and the layups always suck
Way to go out buddy!
As are represented the program well. Be frustrated with his play but "way to go out buddy" ? Come on.
Spot minutes for Bailey and McEwen the rest of the way.
The run started with McEwen on the bench and Cain and Johnson on the floor.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 07, 2020, 11:18:45 AM
I dont think MU can win a basketball game with bailey or koby on the floor. It is just that simple
People wiser than you and I would disagree and say we can't succeed without Kobys elite perimeter defense.
Please just keep Koby on the bench
And let Markus author the fate of his Senior season
Stan is slowly taking over lol
What you have in now are the second string that has something to prove. Ride that horse until the first string gets fired up or longer.
More Stan in the huddles recently. Writing on the wall?
Yes, the program that fired their coach at halftime. Coaches will line up for the job.
Quote from: Afroman on March 07, 2020, 11:20:06 AM
Spot minutes for Bailey and McEwen the rest of the way.
Its obvious to everyone but Wojo. Seems like he is afraid they will transfer out if they don't get minutes. Similar to last year when Joey should of been on the pine for his bad play but he kept getting major minutes.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 07, 2020, 11:21:49 AM
More Stan in the huddles recently. Writing on the wall?
It's a curious development for sure
So sad we only get Jayce one year
Finally some coaching
Sacar out Greg in
Isn't this the kind of post that is cause for rest of the season banning??
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 11:23:49 AM
So sad we only get Jayce one year
I'm sorry, don't you mean JC?
I really like how Jayce Johnson competes.
Wish Cheeks was here to tell me what an idiot I am for suggesting Cain is better then Bailey.
It's apparent.
where's the Ban HAMMER ? ? ? well deserved 8-)
Quote from: skianth16 on March 07, 2020, 11:28:12 AM
I'm sorry, don't you mean JC?
I caught that. Hilarious
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on March 07, 2020, 11:29:09 AM
Wish Cheeks was here to tell me what an idiot I am for suggesting Cain is better then Bailey.
It's apparent.
They can both be pretty hot and cold. I'm happy to see Jamal play well, but this isn't exactly his norm this season.
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on March 07, 2020, 11:29:09 AM
Wish Cheeks was here to tell me what an idiot I am for suggesting Cain is better then Bailey.
It's apparent.
Bailey has a high ceiling, and has improved a great deal since last year, but his inconsistency is absolute baffling, especially given that he's significantly older
Quote from: skianth16 on March 07, 2020, 11:30:24 AM
They can both be pretty hot and cold. I'm happy to see Jamal play well, but this isn't exactly his norm this season.
Bailey sometimes can shoot well, nothing else. An absolutely liability on the defensive end
Symir should be taking all of kobys playing time
Back down 6.
Markus heading the the free throw line to try and score our first points with Koby in the game
GET KOBY OUT
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 07, 2020, 11:18:45 AM
I dont think MU can win a basketball game with bailey or koby on the floor. It is just that simple
Agree. Liked the lineup of Symir, Markus, Cain, Sacar and Johnson.
Are we losing 20-0 with McEwen, John, and Bailey on the floor?
12-0 scoring run
Then a 8-0 with koby n bailey in the game
Is it time to put the second string in Again? These guys look confused.
I would at least to tell him as he gets on the plane on the way home.
Bad BB is so so bad
Mid game transfer please!!!!!
It is time to pull them.
Need brew to report this post.
HOLY FU CK.
Koby is fu cking awful
A god damn embarrassment to this program. Defense?? No hes getting abused.
We are like -20 with him on the floor
Seriously, stop fu cking playing him.
I'll take my chances leaving Koby, BB and Wojo in the locker room at half.
Gave up on this team turned it off, impossible to watch the game with how bad they are. How does a redshirt junior first turn it over then be stupid enough to give up a and 1?
Amazing what a team looks like when they hit their shots
McEwen might be a great kid but he has been a disaster with the ball in his hands for much of the year. I just don't know why Wojo does not see it.
This team is absolute garbage and unwatchable. How does our coach justify starting McEwen and Theo?
An absolute embarrassment losing to the two worst conference teams to end the season with another epic collapse.
This coach has to go but will never happen. Pathetic.
This is a team that has given up. Walking dead
Quote from: JWags85 on March 07, 2020, 11:40:57 AM
This is a team that has given up. Walking dead
100% on the coach.
Quote from: MarquetteFan94 on March 07, 2020, 11:39:59 AM
This team is absolute garbage and unwatchable. How does our coach justify starting McEwen and Theo?
An absolute embarrassment losing to the two worst conference teams to end the season with another epic collapse.
This coach has to go but will never happen. Pathetic.
The two worst teams without their best player in each game.
Absolute blood bath now.
They will not miss.
Jayce just about airballed a 1 footer(he plays hard so cant knock him but the coordination is bad)
we are either And 1 fouling or giving up a 3 every possession.
Every one must like what they are seeing.
And yes coaches will line up for $2MM a year with a guaranteed contract.
We are terrible.
Not sure why bad shooting teams shoot 60% on nba 3s against us though
Going back to Koby and BB especially at the same time was indefensibly bad
Abysmal, lamentable, pathetic.
Does anyone here REALLY think this team deserves to be in the tournament?? They are really going to lose to DuhPaul and SJU back to back to end the regular season??
The team have lost their confidence.
The St. John's press is quite a surprise. I feel bad for the guys not being prepared for it. Who would ever imagine they would press and try to force turnovers? It's almost not fair that they are allowed to do that.
We going to have to do this Lane Kiffin style on the tarmac?
How is it teams get uncharacteristically "Hot" against us? Because they smell blood. MU has zero confidence. Comes from the top. He gotta go gang
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 11:42:38 AM
Going back to Koby and BB especially at the same time was indefensibly bad
By my count we are being outscored 27-3 with 3 Howard free throws when they are on the floor.
Amazing what happens when you build confidence in one player and not a team. I do not blame the players. It is the coach.
Gotta stem the bleeding somehow here before the half. We can't keep giving up these big runs on defense.
Quote from: mufanatic on March 07, 2020, 11:38:28 AM
McEwen might be a great kid but he has been a disaster with the ball in his hands for much of the year. I just don't know why Wojo does not see it.
He hasn't seen it since Game 1 of his head coaching career. Abysmal recognition of who can play and who can't.
Is it possible for someone on the staff to tell Markus to not drive to the hoop?
I would switch coaches with St Johns in a heartbeat
Nah. Do it after the season.
11 turnovers already.You give the opposition easy run outs and they get confidence.Hey JayBee is it still fake news if Torrence goes down next year that the season is over without another point guard.You can ride with McEwen.Good luck
Quote from: Class71 on March 07, 2020, 11:44:11 AM
Amazing what happens when you build confidence in one player and not a team. I do not blame the players. It is the coach.
No some players just suck.
When we have Markus defer and try and build confidence for others we start off down 12-0 with 5 TOs in 4 min.
Woj squirted in his underpants.
Quote from: muhoops1 on March 07, 2020, 11:43:59 AM
How is it teams get uncharacteristically "Hot" against us? Because they smell blood. MU has zero confidence. Comes from the top. He gotta go gang
This. And this is the same reason our guys haven't been able to hit shots the last several games. Confidence. Belief.
Quote from: Class71 on March 07, 2020, 11:44:11 AM
Amazing what happens when you build confidence in one player and not a team. I do not blame the players. It is the coach.
Perfect summation of the Wojo tenure - Carlino, Ellenson, Markus.
Just feed Markus the ball so he can lock up the scoring title....on thing worth following.
Will lose first round of BE tourney and flame out in the NCAA (which they will back into again)....will finish the season 1-8 after finishing last year 1-10 (or whatever it was).
Get the coach out of here!!
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 07, 2020, 11:36:34 AM
Need brew to report this post.
He is too busy defending his "stone cold lock" tourney prediction.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 11:45:03 AM
Nah. Do it after the season.
I'd like to see Stan take the reins for the post-season. It could not possibly be worse and who knows, maybe the change would be a little spark.
Anim is such a low effort player. Has he ever come away with a loose ball?
They just quit on the coach and the program, change is in the air.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 07, 2020, 11:47:29 AM
Anim is such a low effort player. Has he ever come away with a loose ball?
If you don't see the growth in sacar, wades doesn't know what to tell you..
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 07, 2020, 11:47:29 AM
Anim is such a low effort player. Has he ever come away with a loose ball?
I don't agree with this. He's historically been a very high effort player. He looks mentally checked out (and he's not alone).
13 turnovers and 3 assists.Will never win with over 4 to 1 ratio.Get some guards please
Careful now.
All three recruits should start next year and Mane as well if he comes
One thing though, I'm impressed with Stan. He's obviously coaching his ass off, just pulled Koby to the side and talked to him. I'm a fan of Stan, that's for sure
LOL Koby turns it over 1 more time before half.
A selfishily stupid basketball player
Give Markus the ball
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 11:49:19 AM
I don't agree with this. He's historically been a very high effort player. He looks mentally checked out (and he's not alone).
I agree with this take 100%
47 first half points for STJ....great D, coach!
and Koby didn't care what he was saying :-\
Wojo should be looking at 20 minutes to save his job. What a disaster.
At half, St. John's is shooting 68.3% eFG%. Their best game in the KenPom era is 73.7% #mubb trails 47-28... and has a turnover rate of almost 40%.
Quote from: guzica on March 07, 2020, 11:52:31 AM
and Koby didn't care what he was saying :-\
Do we really have 2 more years of Koby?!
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on March 07, 2020, 11:51:29 AM
One thing though, I'm impressed with Stan. He's obviously coaching his ass off, just pulled Koby to the side and talked to him. I'm a fan of Stan, that's for sure
If you look carefully you can see he's slowly been taking control of the team, or at minimum has taken a much more active role in coaching the team. It's an interesting development.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 11:49:19 AM
I don't agree with this. He's historically been a very high effort player. He looks mentally checked out (and he's not alone).
Ok, I'll back off from that but he has look checked out in the last several games.
Ziggy
I will report it. Brew is busy running the analytics.
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 07, 2020, 11:50:50 AM
Careful now.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4QgsmeIIAA9Oc1.jpg)
Quote from: skianth16 on March 07, 2020, 11:52:08 AM
I agree with this take 100%
Sorry sportsfans. Have to call it like it is. This team under Wojo is el stinko. Huge folds last 2 years down the stretch when you should be playing your best BB warrants a big time house cleaning and no amount of excuse making changes that. Time to burn the ships.
I don't think the kids are checked out as much as they are wound so tight they exude no confidence. Other teams are feeding off that and upping their game
It's not whether we win or lose. It's whether we play with heart.
Gosh darn it, I am just proud of our kids playing their heart out today.
Proud to be a Marquette Warrior Golden Eagle.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 07, 2020, 11:53:53 AM
Ok, I'll back off from that but he has look checked out in the last several games.
No doubt
We start so many of our games trying to establish Theo and it always results in a bunch of turnovers and a deficit. It literally never works.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 11:53:32 AM
If you look carefully you can see he's slowly been taking control of the team, or at minimum has taken a much more active role in coaching the team. It's an interesting development.
Just give him the job, keep our recruits, and he keep leading recruiting like he's done anyway.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 07, 2020, 11:36:34 AM
Need brew to report this post.
Remember that sniveling kid in grade school?
Quote from: Bad_Reporter on March 07, 2020, 11:51:29 AM
One thing though, I'm impressed with Stan. He's obviously coaching his ass off, just pulled Koby to the side and talked to him. I'm a fan of Stan, that's for sure
Totally agree. Stan has it. We'd be foolish AF to not give him a three year contract to see what he can do. We'd keep all recruits. He's charismatic AF. And he seems to be spot on in his assessments.
The much maligned letter the Hausers wrote a year ago was, in reality, extraordinary leadership. Players taking ownership in the program and trying to right the ship.
We are heading for disaster unless something is done after this season.
Markus Howard 80.0% eFG% in the first half. Rest of team: 34.8%. #mubb
Our offensive gameplan (for the past 127 games)...
4 guys standing around the three point line, Markus runs around, still standing around for the rest, then play 2 on 5 once he gets it.
Wojo teams are so easy to scout. Never adjustments, no changes. This team doesn't care, the players seem tapped out and sick of it
If giving Stan the job meant keeping our recruits I'd sign up for that experiment. A change in leadership is needed end of story. Wojo has never been a good coach. Now he's a mediocre coach who doesn't even have the command of his team. Change is needed.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 07, 2020, 11:45:33 AM
No some players just suck.
When we have Markus defer and try and build confidence for others we start off down 12-0 with 5 TOs in 4 min.
Markus is not the problem. Wojo never built a team. The Hausers knew it and left. Wojo needed to develop these players by playing without Markus in the buy in games early in the season. He focused on Markus. It is too late now to start working on team confidence. You reap what you sow. THERE IS NO ON OFF SWITCH FOR CONFIDENCE. IT NEEDS TO BE NURTURED OVER TIME.
Quote from: keefe on March 07, 2020, 11:55:08 AM
It's not whether we win or lose. It's whether we play with heart.
Gosh darn it, I am just proud of our kids playing their heart out today.
Proud to be a Marquette Warrior Golden Eagle.
Orange slices and rice crispie treats for all!
Have we reached rock bottom yet?
A loss to DePaul Wed. And a dance embarrassment should get 'ER done.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 07, 2020, 11:45:33 AM
No some players just suck.
When we have Markus defer and try and build confidence for others we start off down 12-0 with 5 TOs in 4 min.
This is such an oversimplification of the real issues this team has
Quote from: hairy worthen on March 07, 2020, 11:59:40 AM
Orange slices and rice crispie treats for all!
Is there a trophy ceremony at the end of the game?
Class71
You are correct. All on the head coach.
Come on guys. I do not want to report you.
Markus has taken five shots and made three. With Markus getting face to face defense, Elmore said to best with "MU is playing four on four on offense."
14 turnovers in one half will not win many games, especially with SJU hitting every outside shot.
SJU has no one taller than 6ft 7 and with Roberts out, no one in the middle. Maybe they can pass it low without getting it picked off.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on March 07, 2020, 11:56:25 AM
The much maligned letter the Hausers wrote a year ago was, in reality, extraordinary leadership. Players taking ownership in the program and trying to right the ship.
We are heading for disaster unless something is done after this season.
Yep. They had zero confidence Wojo would/could right the ship. I don't blame them a bit for leaving. How some of the ProJos tried to spin that positively for Wojo "manning" up was pure f'in comedy.
Sam was consummate team player. JJJ said he was his favorite player in college hoops as a freshman. JJJ shared ball so well too. Yet Wojo gave the ultimate green light to one guy - albeit very talented, but you can't do that. Lose the whole damn team in the process.
Our only response to the press is have Markus bring the ball up alone. Our only answer on offense is to give the ball to Markus and let him shoot -- not a sign of perparedness.
I'm not one to make rash decisions, but if the powers within MU don't see what's going on, something is very, very wrong.
The evidence is beyond damning.
You guys are crazy if you still think this team is a lock. Dont be surprised on selection sunday when we start thinking who our nit matchups will be
Barring some miracle comeback or divinely-inspired turnaround in the BET or NCAA, this team is headed for two consecutive massive end of seasons collapses. We could go back through all the posts about patience and progress and etc etc. but I can't think anyone would honestly claim they would be content with this in years 5 and 6 of the Wojo era.
There's a lot at play, and we're not privy to the financials, but if they're so bad that we CAN'T fire Wojo then Bill Scholl needs to lose his job for agreeing to that contract.
If we CAN fire Wojo and don't, he also needs to go.
Imagine a whole year with McEwen and Symir at point.
Quote from: harryp on March 07, 2020, 12:03:33 PM
Our only response to the press is have Markus bring the ball up alone. Our only answer on offense is to give the ball to Markus and let him shoot -- not a sign of perparedness.
You know how you beat the press?? DON'T LET THEM SCORE. Easy.
Frankly, this thread is disheartening and demoralizing. Such pettiness only cuts like a knife. It is...hateful.
We are Marquette, dammit!
Quote from: keefe on March 07, 2020, 12:00:41 PM
Is there a trophy ceremony at the end of the game?
Ribbons. Participation variety.
Agree but the board doesnt have the guts to make any big moves when we have a nice clean program
This type of commentary is hurtful.
Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2020, 12:01:28 PM
Class71
You are correct. All on the head coach.
Maybe at Duke the world class players do not need to be inspired to believe in themself. But for the rest of us we need some one to truly believe in us so we believe in ourselves.
Did Wojo give up winning for Lent or something!?????? Both years in a row?
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 07, 2020, 12:06:21 PM
Ribbons. Participation variety.
eRibbons. Environmentally responsible
Keefe
Some of these posts are bordering on being mean spirited.
Mike Anderson is well known for his "40 Minutes of Hell Full Court Press". When he was coaching at Missouri that "40 Minutes of Hell" was truly HELL! Anderson was taught the "40 Minutes of Hell" when he was an assistant coach for Nolan Richardson at Arkansas.
He hired Duffy and she's killing it. So he's got that going
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 07, 2020, 12:06:33 PM
Agree but the board doesnt have the guts to make any big moves when we have a nice clean program
I'll run the cleanest program you've ever seen. Eagle scouts. And because I love my alma matter I'll do it for 25% of what they're paying Wojo so they can go hire 10 new TT faculty lines.
And I'll get them just as many BE championships and NCAA wins as Wojo has.
Unfortunately, Wojo is too stubborn to adapt and make changes. You aren't going to be able to produce above average results in any profession without adjustments and openness to feedback, especially a coach/leader of a program.
It is no fun being a bad team's bit$h. Two games in a row.
I don't know how anyone could be satisfied with how this season has ended.
This is what Wojo has built.
What has he done over years to merit a response of this is just a one time event and things will get better.
Blood in the water. The sharks are in a frenzy and Wojo needed a bigger boat
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 07, 2020, 12:07:19 PM
Did Wojo give up winning for Lent or something!?????? Both years in a row?
I do not believe our head coach is a Catholic. But that's ok because he runs a nice, clean cut program.
Let's not religion be a source of divisiveness. Can't we just be friends?
I'm sure this game will quell the nojos
At least he changed things up. Koby, Theo and Bailey benched.
Actions speak louder than words. Y'all need to stop typin' and take a good look at a finished product in the season's final game, hey?
Major Suckage
Quote from: Class71 on March 07, 2020, 12:07:09 PM
Maybe at Duke the world class players do not need to be inspired to believe in themself. But for the rest of us we need some one to truly believe in us so we believe in ourselves.
Buzz was great at extracting kids confidence and belief in self. Wojo has generally shattered kids confidence. Truly sad.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 07, 2020, 12:05:32 PM
Imagine a whole year with McEwen and Symir at point.
Zero help on the way.
Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2020, 12:07:41 PM
Keefe
Some of these posts are bordering on being mean spirited.
It is very hateful.
I hope the throng of SJU fans hang around for Senior night presentation. Would hate for their faithful to suck as well.
At least Wojo started lineup that played best. #progress
program is in absolute shambles: administration to coaching to players. Fans should send a message and not show up to the Big East tournament. This is a mess and disgrace. Wojo should step down after the game
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 07, 2020, 12:10:25 PM
Actions speak louder than words. Y'all need to stop typin' and take a good look at a finished product in the season's final game, hey?
Gosh darn it, Doc. Let's find the silver lining in what is, perhaps, a frustrating morning.
I find the negativity...distasteful.
So, please, let's find the good, shall we?
wojo should just do us all a favor and step down after the game
Quote from: curbina on March 07, 2020, 12:08:22 PM
Mike Anderson is well known for his "40 Minutes of Hell Full Court Press". When he was coaching at Missouri that "40 Minutes of Hell" was truly HELL! Anderson was taught the "40 Minutes of Hell" when he was an assistant coach for Nolan Richardson at Arkansas.
This is exactly what I was referring to. How in the world Wojo doesn't have this team prepared to beat the press is inexcusable.
Nice move. Start Cain. Bench him 1 minute later because Sacar didn't block out his man. Confidence inspiring.
Wojo not a Catholic. My god i had no idea!!???? Thats like a goldstein not being jewish!!!!???
I would say Wojo should go.MU needs a new culture.A fresh start even it means losing the recruiting class.
I think there should be no press rules. We do not have time to practice for that and it makes it unfair.
Wojo is Catholic.
Its not helping though.
Pretty sure he would not forfeit a buyout
Quote from: warriors141 on March 07, 2020, 12:15:35 PM
wojo should just do us all a favor and step down after the game
What's worse mocking the childishness or acting like children to get a banhammer?
See ya.
Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2020, 12:19:01 PM
I think there should be no press rules. We do not have time to practice for that and it makes it unfair.
Thats the rule in 5th grade.
STOP IT, JUST STOP IT.
YOU GUYS ARE CRACKING ME UP. I AM WORKING IN THE OFFICE TODAY.
Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on March 07, 2020, 12:17:09 PM
Thats like a goldstein not being jewish!!!!???
I know a guy named Goldberg who is not only a Goyim but is also a brother.
Fire everyone at Marquette and start over. Clear the bot out and let jerry west hire everyone:priests, professors, coaches. The whole damn thing.
BanhammerMane would be a great handle on scoop.
Finally make some baskets but the defense is so bad
Scholl didn't hire Wojo. Based on his track record, I'm excited for him to make a men's basketball hire.
Took 30!! Games for Wojo to bench Koby
Unreal!! dumbest coach ever. Their is liyalty to a pkayer but when it becomes dislitalty to the entire program?
Quote from: Goose on March 07, 2020, 12:19:01 PM
I think there should be no press rules. We do not have time to practice for that and it makes it unfair.
Love this.
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Quote from: cheebs09 on March 07, 2020, 12:24:37 PM
Scholl didn't hire Wojo. Based on his track record, I'm excited for him to make a men's basketball hire.
This, but no one is firing Wojo.
Jayce Johnson is by far the team's second-best player. Think about that for a minute.
Quote from: Blackhat on March 07, 2020, 12:23:17 PM
Fire everyone at Marquette and start over. Clear the bot out and let jerry west hire everyone:priests, professors, coaches. The whole damn thing.
It's shocking to see how far we've fallen, an so fast. It seems like yesterday we were watching Buzz and Vander Blue against the same school, on the same court, win a Big East title.
Nice hustle mu. Four mu guys around the ball and sju gets it and kicks out for three!!!
Marquette makes 50-50 balls 90-10
Koby back in and instantly loses his man for a 3
Wojo took his jacket off. Watch out! This is getting serious!
I think a lot of the problem is that the Board of Trustees had a concerted program to eliminate the great bars upon which rested Marquette's greatness: The Lanche. The Gym. Hegarty's. Lenny's. Hegarty's Glocca Morra. The Camel Club. Ricky's.
All gone.
Is it any wonder?
Quote from: Retire0 on March 07, 2020, 12:25:16 PM
This, but no one is firing Wojo.
Why. His aura is so strong? He hasn't done sh.t
There's one thing that is for sure. This fan base sure does have some straight up douchebags in it.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 07, 2020, 12:24:37 PM
Scholl didn't hire Wojo. Based on his track record, I'm excited for him to make a men's basketball hire.
Right - but he's the one who negotiated Wojo's current contract and would also be the one to fire him.
This has actually been a fun half to watch.
I can't wait to go on the marquettehoops board and listen to all the dumbunnatural carnal knowledge excuses Dodds has
Quote from: Blackhat on March 07, 2020, 12:27:55 PM
Why. His aura is so strong? He hasn't done sh.t
Money.
Quote from: 1SE on March 07, 2020, 12:28:41 PM
Right - but he's the one who negotiated Wojo's current contract and would also be the one to fire him.
Fair. But we don't know if the extension made it easier to fire him as a trade off for more years.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 07, 2020, 12:30:17 PM
I can't wait to go on the marquettehoops board and listen to all the dumbunnatural carnal knowledge excuses Dodds has
We lost our residential excuse person when cheeks was sent on vacations.
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 07, 2020, 12:28:33 PM
There's one thing that is for sure. This fan base sure does have some straight up douchebags in it.
Yep, they call themselves meat eaters, and they seem to really enjoy felliating themselves on here.
Wojo post game "I loved the fight my guys showed in the 2nd half, we just ran out of time".
Great defense, could have cut to single digits and Koby steps out of bounds. That hurt.
Then a 10 second call on him. My goodness.
Wojo's team really fight hard down 20
Press got them again!
Quote from: nyg on March 07, 2020, 12:35:05 PM
Great defense, could have cut to single digits and Koby steps out of bounds. That hurt.
and then another one. And then almost another one.
May kneed ta play angrier, aina?
This game has not been lost yet. Please pull Koby. Gee coach, please.
Quote from: #UnleashJayce on March 07, 2020, 12:32:27 PM
We lost our residential excuse person when cheeks was sent on vacations.
We still have warriordad. Like watching a guy try to put out a house fire with his urine the past couple days
Nice 5th grade level turnover by wojo's team. In case you don't know which one I am talking about- the one where they were walking the ball up the court with partial pressure and failed to get the ball to half court in time.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 07, 2020, 12:30:30 PM
Money.
The silly extension Lovell have for winning the preseason NIT against a lame field was ill-conceived, just as it was to once again extend him after last season.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 07, 2020, 12:33:22 PM
Yep, they call themselves meat eaters, and they seem to really enjoy felliating themselves on here.
You mess with one, you mess with them all, aina...nana?
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 07, 2020, 12:38:14 PM
You mess with one, you mess with them all, aina...nana?
Pray.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 07, 2020, 12:30:17 PM
I can't wait to go on the marquettehoops board and listen to all the dumbunnatural carnal knowledge excuses Dodds has
Just hang out heer. Plenty of those on deez printed pages, hey?
People who think extending Wojo's contract was a mistake don't understand how coaching contracts work in D1 athletics.
I mean all of a sudden Markus isn't seeing the ball again..
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 07, 2020, 12:38:06 PM
The silly extension Lovell have for winning the preseason NIT against a lame field was ill-conceived, just as it was to once again extend him after last season.
Silly or likely necessary for a guy like Dawson to commit?
You guys act like you never heard how college basketball works.
MU getting some home cooking calls. Elliot, and Anims fouls are a joke.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 07, 2020, 12:30:30 PM
Money.
Does anyone have any idea what his buyout actually is?
That throw it up and hope 3 by Figueroa really hurt.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 07, 2020, 12:39:06 PM
Just hang out heer. Plenty of those on deez printed pages, hey?
Found the guy who's actually using the Scoop print feature!
Nice seeing Sacar run some point. His aggression level went up about 5x.
Quote from: Retire0 on March 07, 2020, 12:39:56 PM
Silly or likely necessary for a guy like Dawson to commit?
You guys act like you never heard how college basketball works.
To commit to a poor coach? Cart before horse on that extension.
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 12:36:48 PM
We still have warriordad. Like watching a guy try to put out a house fire with his urine the past couple days
What happened to Tower?
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 07, 2020, 12:36:48 PM
We still have warriordad. Like watching a guy try to put out a house fire with his urine the past couple days
I thought that warriordad = Chico.
Everytime we cut the lead Wojo puts koby back in
And back it goes
Quote from: Blackhat on March 07, 2020, 12:43:08 PM
To commit to a poor coach? Cart before horse on that extension.
His 2020 recruits did apparently.
Greg! Go get em kid!
Quote from: 1SE on March 07, 2020, 12:43:18 PM
What happened to Tower?
Mia since the middle of the lose streak.
In reality is he the one who just had a baby?
Why the F is he gonna sub in Bailey and McEwen now??
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 07, 2020, 12:45:56 PM
Why the F is he gonna sub in Bailey and McEwen now??
The others probably running on fumes. Crazy pace to this half.
Quote from: #UnleashJayce on March 07, 2020, 12:45:43 PM
Mia since the middle of the lose streak.
In reality is he the one who just had a baby?
Chit, dat wood bee a furst, aina?
Quote from: #UnleashJayce on March 07, 2020, 12:45:43 PM
Mia since the middle of the lose streak.
In reality is he the one who just had a baby?
TAMU had baby..so his posting slowed for a bit. Not sure about Tower. Towers been a pro-JO but he's also objective and not a complete homer on the topic.
Quote from: 1SE on March 07, 2020, 12:43:18 PM
What happened to Tower?
Another good poster runoff.
Wow. Can't make this crap up. Immediate turnover.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 07, 2020, 12:46:41 PM
The others probably running on fumes. Crazy pace to this half.
Which is weird since the message for the first half was to play slow. But it does seem to be working.
Can't catch a break :(
Quote from: skianth16 on March 07, 2020, 12:50:51 PM
Which is weird since the message for the first half was to play slow. But it does seem to be working.
I have said all year they play better when they play faster.
Tower gave up scoop for lent.
Thought that whole giving up thing was supposed to be a sacrifice.
Cut it to 8 and then Koby turns over. That's five turnovers for him. Benched.
Need those loose balls, turning into many SJU points, too many.
I don't think I can remember seeing Wojo this animated on the sideline. What changed? Why is he back into it all of a sudden? I like it, but where has this been?
If they had played with this second-half urgency the last few weeks, I can guarantee we would be feeling better about things.
Where in the hell has this Sacar been the last 5 games or so??
Who/what lit a fire under Sacar this half??????
18 turnovers wow!!
Quote from: skianth16 on March 07, 2020, 12:54:46 PM
I don't think I can remember seeing Wojo this animated on the sideline. What changed? Why is he back into it all of a sudden? I like it, but where has this been?
Must have read Scoop over halftime.
Quote from: leever on March 07, 2020, 12:56:51 PM
Who/what lit a fire under Sacar this half??????
Totally different look and feel from the team in the second half. This has actually been fun to watch. The guys are into it. This kind of energy and effort can win some games if we can get it for 40 minutes.
Maybe they told wojo to clear out his office if they dont win?
Down to six, three on one and a chuck three. Then a Sacar terrible pass. They have had opportunities And SJU missing free throws.
Convert those last possessions, two point game. Shame.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 07, 2020, 12:54:46 PM
I don't think I can remember seeing Wojo this animated on the sideline. What changed? Why is he back into it all of a sudden? I like it, but where has this been?
He should be coaching like that for every, if not portions of every, game. You're the head basketball coach. Don't sit and pout until your team makes a comeback.
Quote from: skianth16 on March 07, 2020, 01:00:32 PM
Totally different look and feel from the team in the second half. This has actually been fun to watch. The guys are into it. This kind of energy and effort can win some games if we can get it for 40 minutes.
MU cannot overcome koby n Bailey, horrid with them in the court. Not too bad without them. Unfortunately Wojo keeps choosing to put Koby back out there... to predictable result
Quote from: Retire0 on March 07, 2020, 12:39:56 PM
Silly or likely necessary for a guy like Dawson to commit?
You guys act like you never heard how college basketball works.
I fully understand how college basketball works and contract extensions.
You don't reward underachievement and imploding just for the sake of giving a coach coming off his 5th year a slight recruiting helper (I'll be here all four of your years.).
High major recruits families aren't stupid. They know coaches come and go regardless of how many years on a contract.
U cannot comeback if u cant play defense without fouling
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 07, 2020, 01:06:57 PM
U cannot comeback if u cant play defense without fouling
Every. Single. Time. Cut to four, free throws. Cut to.....free throws.
And another, Elliott....
How about a f****** Zone
Quote from: leever on March 07, 2020, 12:56:51 PM
Who/what lit a fire under Sacar this half??????
Being moved to PG for a bit was major catalyst. Would like to see more of Sacar at PG.
Sju has scored on like 10 straight posessions. If they could shoot fts MU is down 20
Terrible unnatural carnal knowledgeing decision Jamal...just f'n brutal
What a play by Markus, my goodness
Can't wait for the projos to declare victory with how hard they played down 21.
Quote from: muguru on March 07, 2020, 01:11:51 PM
Terrible unnatural carnal knowledgeing decision Jamal...just f'n brutal
Yeah that was a brain dead play. When has he ever made that shot.
Move the ball Jamal!! N maybe rebound!!
Anim with the ball makes us better. GE getting extended minutes makes us better. Incredible it took until the last game of the year to see both.
55 second half points is nice 4 points between koby and Bailey killed us
THis is the norm. Battle back to make it look respectable but never enough to finish.
Them not quitting is respectable tho.
But we win this game if we realized which guys needed to sit this game.
Huge and one from Sacar!
Marcus did it again he takes way too much time when the clock is running out terrible terrible decisions
Not clutch
The freshamn! The freshman shut up
hack.
thanks refs.
Lol Cain mno idea
Time for redemption
Edit: welp
So are moral victories enough?
Why not shoot a 3 there?
It was a game you have no business winning.
Playing for overtime? Dumb.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 07, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
hack.
thanks refs.
Nah that was clean. Another dumb end of game play.
Ooof. Really, really tough way to end that one.
Howard has an extremely loose handle on last second shots.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 07, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
hack.
thanks refs.
Ya.... take off your blue and gold goggles. That was excellent defense.
Why would you ever want to save a TO when you can spend one with 45 seconds left
Wide open to the hoop and just loses the ball. Why was it so low?
Maybe Wojo learned something this game. Like who his players are
Nice play by freshman defensively on Markus. MU had the clearcut and kid made a good play, if not probably a score.
Diaster loss for MU.
Why does Howard refuse to just shoot the ball in those situations. He never gets a shot off.
Like I said....every single time.
We make comeback by not giving up but its always just a tease, we literally never complete them.
Last 6 games have been unwatchable, we never improved again this year
Quote from: Afroman on March 07, 2020, 01:18:25 PM
Why not shoot a 3 there?
It was a game you have no business winning.
Playing for overtime? Dumb.
+1000...live or die with Markus shooting a 3 there.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 07, 2020, 01:13:12 PM
Yeah that was a brain dead play. When has he ever made that shot.
He's made that shot a number of times. But has little experience playing in clutch situations.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 07, 2020, 01:11:14 PM
Being moved to PG for a bit was major catalyst. Would like to see more of Sacar at PG.
You got 2 more games. Enjoy it while you can.
Lose by 3 total points, how many do u win by if koby never plays in the second half?
I kinda want to say way to battle back but this 6 game stretch has been absolutely atrocious. Losing to garbage teams. Getting down 20 in games. Are we just this bad?? Is it slump? I mean wtf is going on out tbere. Its like they just cant beat anyone. Brutal watching these guys collapse and fall near the bottom of the big east.
When people asked if we'd get left out of the tournament if we lost the rest of our games, I didn't really take it seriously because I figured there was no way we'd lose to both DePaul and STJ. What the hell is happening to this program? Did we really just did that?
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on March 07, 2020, 01:21:15 PM
You got 2 more games. Enjoy it while you can.
Maybe. I wouldnt be surprised if a lot of the auto-bid tournament winners take the spot
Give the kids credit, they fought back in 2nd half. Too big of a hole to dig out of. Almost pulled it off.
Always heard the talking head analysts say that when a defender swipes down on the ball, it is a foul. Markus did not get that call at the end. BS call by the ref.
Oh well, there is always next year.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on March 07, 2020, 01:19:26 PM
Maybe Wojo learned something this game. Like who his players are
This could be silver lining. Then again we saw MU rally back from a massive deficit at Creighton 2 years ago after Markus got hurt and team went zone only to never do it again. The two-small ball with Rowsey and Howard wasn't effective.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on March 07, 2020, 01:19:26 PM
Maybe Wojo learned something this game. Like who his players are
;D ;D ;D
Speechless!
Anyway, they got reg season experience at MSG and should be a bit more comfortable against GTown on Wed
Quote from: AlienWarrior on March 07, 2020, 01:25:55 PM
Anyway, they got reg season experience at MSG and should be a bit more comfortable against GTown on Wed
We don't play Gtown.
Literally impossible
Quote from: willie warrior on March 07, 2020, 01:23:30 PM
Give the kids credit, they fought back in 2nd half. Too big of a hole to dig out of. Almost pulled it off.
Always heard the talking head analysts say that when a defender swipes down on the ball, it is a foul. Markus did not get that call at the end. BS call by the ref.
Oh well, there is always next year.
He didn't get the call because there was no foul. All ball. Simple.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 07, 2020, 01:23:54 PM
This could be silver lining. Then again we saw MU rally back from a massive deficit at Creighton 2 years ago after Markus got hurt and team went zone only to never do it again. The two-small ball with Rowsey and Howard wasn't effective.
Yeah, don't get your hopes up on any changes. Wojo is going to write on the whiteboard Koby, Markus, Bailey, Anim, and John as the starters for next game. Tell them to try to work the ball into Theo to get things going inside.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 07, 2020, 01:26:50 PM
We don't play Gtown.
Literally impossible
ok DePaul then
Should be a good game against depaul
That last play...should have been some foresight by Wojo...that's a situation to me where you want Jayce in. #1 to make sure you get the rebound on a miss FT, but more importantly so he can screen off the help side defender on that drive.
What are the chances at least one of next year's recruits decides to de-commit due to our epic collapse and no bid to the NCAA Despite WOJO still being the coach next year?
Unless this team makes the finals of the Big East Tournament, pork does not believe they deserve a bid.
Kids dont care there will be lots of minutes for the incoming freshman
MU lost this game in the first half with 14 turnovers. They only had six more in the second for a total of 20.
SJU let MU back in the game by missing free throws, they were 21 for 36.
Theo and Bailey had zero points.
Koby had 4 points and 5 turnovers.
Sacar had terrible first half, but something clicked in second and was fantastic.
Terrible loss with SJU without Heron and Roberts, as was Depaul without Reed.
Sire am glad we weren't up by 18,and got outscored by 20 in second half lol
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 07, 2020, 01:20:06 PM
Why does Howard refuse to just shoot the ball in those situations. He never gets a shot off.
NPOY?
Bailey: 13 min., 0 reb., 0 asst., 1TO, 2 PF, 0 pts.
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Sacar had terrible first half, but something clicked in second and was fantastic.
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Sacar got involved in running the offense that was the difference