Georgia v Texas A&M Saturday, Feb 1.
Tan Tommy v Bert
Question ... have former MU head coaches ever face each other before?
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on January 31, 2020, 12:27:33 AM
Georgia v Texas A&M Saturday, Feb 1.
Tan Tommy v Bert
Question ... have former MU head coaches ever face each other before?
Buzz beat USC when KO was the coach. Not sure if there are other examples
Al and Hank faced Tex Winters numerous times at Northwestern and then Long Beach State.
Quote from: TAMU Garcia on January 31, 2020, 12:52:57 AM
Buzz beat USC when KO was the coach. Not sure if there are other examples
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 31, 2020, 01:07:18 AM
Al and Hank faced Tex Winters numerous times at Northwestern and then Long Beach State.
Yes, but these are
not examples of
FORMER MU coaches facing each other (i.e. one of them was the
CURRENT MU coach at the time).
The better question is who will you be rooting for?
Go Aggies!
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 31, 2020, 07:18:38 AM
The better question is who will you be rooting for?
Crean. And it's not even close.
Go I4.
Can they both loose?
Thanks for the reminder, Smuggles.
A buddy and I are going to a bar to watch MU-DePaul, and this will be a fun one to check out before our game starts and during commercials. Maybe the thrilling ending will happen while MU-DeP is at halftime.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on January 31, 2020, 08:07:22 PM
Care to expand?
I'll be cheering for the guy who didn't crap all over MU on his way out.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 31, 2020, 07:18:38 AM
The better question is who will you be rooting for?
Go Aggies!
Crean.
It sticks how Buzz was only coach who didn't return for 100 year celebration on '17. And if I recall correctly, didn't bother responding to invitation. Deane was fired and was there. Crean returned with enthusiasm.
Buzz is a jerk. He knows how to win though
A school of MU's caliber and tradition gave Buzz an opportunity when no comparable program would have rolled the dice on him. We put him on the map. I think he's barely uttered MU's name publicly, much less had anything good to say about the program since he's left. You're welcome, jerk.
Crean sucks
SMoD2020!
Quote from: Pakuni on January 31, 2020, 08:29:00 PM
I'll be cheering for the guy who didn't crap all over MU on his way out.
So, you are cheering for the guy whose players found out he was quitting from his BIL on ESPN radio?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 31, 2020, 09:41:58 PM
So, you are cheering for the guy whose players found out he was quitting from his BIL on ESPN radio?
Yep.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 31, 2020, 09:41:58 PM
So, you are cheering for the guy whose players found out he was quitting from his BIL on ESPN radio?
Crean won me back at the 100th Dinner. Very classy and always speaks highly of Marquette. Had he the benefit of hindsight, I doubt he'd ever have left.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 31, 2020, 10:27:19 PM
Crean won me back at the 100th Dinner. Very classy and always speaks highly of Marquette. Had he the benefit of hindsight, I doubt he'd ever have left.
I am looking forward to him verbally assaulting Buzz in the post-game blow-by handshake line while yelling: "You know what you did. You helped wreck our program".
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 31, 2020, 07:18:38 AM
The better question is who will you be rooting for?
Go Aggies!
You're like the fling constantly trying to get back together with an ex that broke up with you.
I'm not rooting for either one, but I'm betting on the guy who's a cross between a Baptist Minister, a Honey Badger, and Curly from The Three Stooges.
Which team to root for? Georgia, currently 12th in the SEC conference standings and ranked #100 by KenPom (more than 20 spots lower than any team in the Big East)? Or Texas A&M, ranked #158 and coming off 3 straight home losses?
My answer is neither. This isn't a game worth watching.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 31, 2020, 10:27:19 PM
Crean won me back at the 100th Dinner. Very classy and always speaks highly of Marquette. Had he the benefit of hindsight, I doubt he'd ever have left.
"There's a sucker born every minute" and "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" are two phrases that immediately come to mind.
Crean has had nothing but great things to say about Marquette and left the program in a better place than he received it.
Buzz did neither of those things.
I have forgiven and moved on from both of them. I think Buzz is the better coach overall. I think Crean has the best player. I honestly could not care less.
Quote from: tower912 on February 01, 2020, 07:33:48 AM
I have forgiven and moved on from both of them. I think Buzz is the better coach overall. I think Crean has the best player. I honestly could not care less.
All kidding aside, the handshake line will be the highlight with these two crappy teams playing. I don't know if true or not, but it was rumored that CTC and Buzz have some bad blood, post Marquette. Something about Crean's nose was a bit out of whack, I hear. Maybe he has learned humility over time?
I don't "care" about the game, but it almost surely will be showing on a TV at the bar I'm going to. So when MU-DeP is on a commercial break and/or halftime, I'll check out the game for sure.
I appreciate what each coach did for Marquette basketball when he was at my alma mater. I am not thrilled with the way either departed. I think Buzz is a better coach, but Crean's been a good coach over the years.
If a were forced to make a bet, I'd bet on Marquette to get back to a Final Four before Buzz's team or Crean's team does. Most likely, none of the 3 will.
I will be cheering for a roof cave in.
Actually, I don't care, I'll be at the Fiserv Forum - looking to go 6-4 in the Big East, en-route to a top 3 finish, and an NCAA tourney bid. Unlike the teams of Tan Tommy & Brent.
Quote from: 94Warrior on February 01, 2020, 10:31:51 AM
I will be cheering for a roof cave in.
Actually, I don't care, I'll be at the Fiserv Forum - looking to go 6-4 in the Big East, en-route to a top 3 finish, and an NCAA tourney bid. Unlike the teams of Tan Tommy & Brent.
Have fun, 94W. Get us a win!
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on January 31, 2020, 07:18:38 AM
The better question is who will you be rooting for?
Go Aggies!
Triple whammy for PRN. Crean beat Buzz, Markus played well, and Wojo got a win.
But on the bright side, we can all agree. At least Marquette Won!
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 01, 2020, 03:32:32 PM
Triple whammy for PRN. Crean beat Buzz, Markus played well, and Wojo got a win.
But on the bright side, we can all agree. At least Marquette Won!
Plus Tax Nice Pace
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 01, 2020, 03:32:32 PM
Triple whammy for PRN. Crean beat Buzz, Markus played well, and Wojo got a win.
But on the bright side, we can all agree. At least Marquette Won!
He can curl into the fetal position, suck his thumb, and cuddle his ugly cat.
But how was the handshake?
Quote from: Pakuni on February 01, 2020, 03:36:37 PM
But how was the handshake?
I just found the replay on the app. It was nice. Big hug. Look like Buzz ask about someone, Crean pointed in the stands. Another hug. Handshake line final moved.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on February 01, 2020, 04:15:21 PM
I just found the replay on the app. It was nice. Big hug. Look like Buzz ask about someone, Crean pointed in the stands. Another hug. Handshake line final moved.
That was Buzz asking Crean where in the arena the self-flushing toilets are located.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on January 31, 2020, 08:46:28 PM
A school of MU's caliber and tradition gave Buzz an opportunity when no comparable program would have rolled the dice on him. We put him on the map. I think he's barely uttered MU's name publicly, much less had anything good to say about the program since he's left. You're welcome, jerk.
Did the invite use words with more than two syllables?
Got to cut the guy some slack...
Glad Crean won!
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 01, 2020, 03:32:32 PM
Triple whammy for PRN. Crean beat Buzz, Markus played well, and Wojo got a win.
But on the bright side, we can all agree. At least Marquette Won!
Yep, this was a real heartbreaking day for MU "fans" who are spending this season rooting for their team to lose. So sad for them.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 01, 2020, 06:53:20 AM
"There's a sucker born every minute" and "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" are two phrases that immediately come to mind.
Kick your dog? Lost the Final Four game by too much? Wouldn't have a beer with you after a game?
Quote from: Jables1604 on February 01, 2020, 05:00:58 PM
That was Buzz asking Crean where in the arena the self-flushing toilets are located.
Jabs,
I want you to know that this fine work of comedy has not gone unnoticed. Line of the Day.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 01, 2020, 07:14:18 AM
Crean has had nothing but great things to say about Marquette and left the program in a better place than he received it.
Buzz did neither of those things.
Correct
Quote from: Cheeks on February 02, 2020, 09:53:30 AM
Correct
One blindsided his boss, who had given him multiple extensions, with his resignation via voicemail when he knew his boss was on a four hour flight. The other worked for a boss and president who were fired as the university which they led was one complete dysfunctional mess, for which he was in the middle of.
What a choice between the two.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on February 01, 2020, 04:15:21 PM
I just found the replay on the app. It was nice. Big hug. Look like Buzz ask about someone, Crean pointed in the stands. Another hug. Handshake line final moved.
Of course. They worked together for a year and TC's leaving gave Buzz a tremendous opportunity to coach a high major team. He did not have that leaving UNO.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 02, 2020, 10:07:36 AM
One blindsided his boss, who had given him multiple extensions, with his resignation via voicemail when he knew his boss was on a four hour flight. The other worked for a boss and president who were fired as the university which they led was one complete dysfunctional mess, for which he was in the middle of.
What a choice between the two.
One continues to talk about MU in a glowing respect, found a way to celebrate 100 years of MU basketball, is respected by the most important key players of his past at MU who shine the brightest for MU. Left the program way better than he accepted it including leaving a stacked team for the next guy.
The other made his own bed with his own actions and those of his players and coaches, had a pout fest about it, trashed the program and conference on the way out, absent from the 100th, etc, etc. Went to a lower level program for less pay.
Indeed, what a choice.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 02, 2020, 10:25:03 AM
One continues to talk about MU in a glowing respect, found a way to celebrate 100 years of MU basketball, is respected by the most important key players of his past at MU who shine the brightest for MU. Left the program way better than he accepted it including a stacked team.
The other made his own bed with his own actions and those of his players and coaches, had a pout fest about it, trashed the program and conference on the way out, absent from the 100th, etc, etc. Went to a lower level program for less pay.
Indeed, what a choice.
Rest of Scoop: Both were great basketball coaches but tremendously flawed individuals who left MU in a bafungu shytshow.
Cheeks: Tom Crean apologized a decade later in front of tv cameras while looking for his new job. He is and continues to be MU's Messiah.
I have to admit, your continued Crean teat suckling is impressive. I will note that MU honored two all time greats yesterday, two of whom played under one of these coaches, and one played under the other.
Lots to celebrate if not for the hypocritical fact neither would have been playing basketball at MU today. Guess what, like you and me, MU is flawed too, something you termed "sad" in regards to my statement of support for MU's former history of supporting at risk student athletes.
Here is the bottom line, neither of these two should be forgiven for the way they left Marquette. Both left the toilets unflushed. Both should be honored for their basketball contributions which were many.
The real question is......If Buzz had Crean's 2003 team.....
Would he have one a National Championship.....
Let the discussion begin......
Me thinks.....Possibly......
Crean was so far over his head against Roy......
No.
Quote from: burger on February 02, 2020, 04:14:44 PM
The real question is......If Buzz had Crean's 2003 team.....
Would he have one a National Championship.....
Let the discussion begin......
Me thinks.....Possibly......
Crean was so far over his head against Roy......
Not a chance.
Quote from: burger on February 02, 2020, 04:14:44 PM
The real question is......If Buzz had Crean's 2003 team.....
Would he have one a National Championship.....
Let the discussion begin......
Me thinks.....Possibly......
Crean was so far over his head against Roy......
Not enough JUCO players on the team for Bazz to win with. While at Marquette, he wasn't overly successful in getting a ton out of his high school recruits. He was great at finding JUCO players who came in and played tough, physical basketball.
Quote from: manesworld on February 02, 2020, 04:42:59 PM
Not enough JUCO players on the team for Bazz to win with. While at Marquette, he wasn't overly successful in getting a ton out of his high school recruits. He was great at finding JUCO players who came in and played tough, physical basketball.
Pretty sure Buzz would have done just fine with D-Wade leading a team despite him not being a JUCO. The whole narrative of Buzz could only win with JUCO's is silly.
Believe Vander, Junior, Davante, Jamil, Otule all played key role on Elite 8 team?
Quote from: burger on February 02, 2020, 04:14:44 PM
The real question is......If Buzz had Crean's 2003 team.....
Would he have one a National Championship.....
Let the discussion begin......
Me thinks.....Possibly......
Crean was so far over his head against Roy......
Did you watch the 2011 Sweet 16 game?
I think Buzz would have had the team more prepared for Kansas, but they likely don't win. That's was a bad match up with their quickness. UAB showed that in the CUSA tournament.
I actually think they could have done well v Syracuse though.
It's not like Bazz's teams only lost super competitive games in the Tournament. We were essentially uncompetitive in losses to UNC, Syracuse, and Florida.
Quote from: manesworld on February 02, 2020, 05:18:23 PM
It's not like Bazz's teams only lost super competitive games in the Tournament. We were essentially uncompetitive in losses to UNC, Syracuse, and Florida.
Well. We finally can find something Buzz and Wojo have in common. 8-)
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 02, 2020, 05:23:31 PM
Well. We finally can find something Buzz and Wojo have in common. 8-)
Were we talking about Wojo? I must've missed that or been in the wrong thread. My bad. Thought the discussion was weather Bazz would've coached the 03 team to a national title and/or had the team more prepared to play Kansas. Guess we were talking about Wojo vs. Bazz instead. I'll hang up and listen to that discussion then. Apologies for interrupting it!
https://youtu.be/qawDWu0CtfU
Quote from: MuMark on February 02, 2020, 05:31:21 PM
https://youtu.be/qawDWu0CtfU
Well, Buzz is a Crean Guy
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 02, 2020, 05:06:47 PM
I think Buzz would have had the team more prepared for Kansas, but they likely don't win. That's was a bad match up with their quickness. UAB showed that in the CUSA tournament.
I actually think they could have done well v Syracuse though.
Maybe.
Then again, there were more than a few times Buzz's teams were ill-prepared for a tournament game.
Quote from: manesworld on February 02, 2020, 04:42:59 PM
Not enough JUCO players on the team for Bazz to win with. While at Marquette, he wasn't overly successful in getting a ton out of his high school recruits.
He won the Big East regular season championship (the old, best conference in the country Big East) and went to the Elite 8 without any judos - so there's that.
Quote from: manesworld on February 02, 2020, 05:18:23 PM
It's not like Bazz's teams only lost super competitive games in the Tournament. We were essentially uncompetitive in losses to UNC, Syracuse, and Florida.
Buzz won 8 tournament games and lost games by 10 to an Elite 8 team and 18 and 19 to two final four teams.
Crean won 5 tournament games and lost by 12 to a round of 32 team by 30 something to a final four team.
Wojo has won zero tournament games and lost to a final four team by 20 and a round of 32 team by 19.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 02, 2020, 08:58:52 PM
Buzz won 8 tournament games and lost games by 10 to an Elite 8 team and 18 and 19 to two final four teams.
Crean won 5 tournament games and lost by 12 to a round of 32 team by 30 something to a final four team.
Wojo has won zero tournament games and lost to a final four team by 20 and a round of 32 team by 19.
So what you're telling me is that Buzz, like Crean, got blown out by teams that went to a Final Four?
I agree. Lol.
The question was would Bazz have coached the 03 to a National Title, no? That's what I was responding to, anyway. Not sure what Wojo has to do with that. But my response had to do with the fact that maybe Bazz would've had them more prepared for Kansas than Crean did. But maybe he wouldn't have, like he didn't have them prepared for Florida, UNC, or Syracuse.
Quote from: manesworld on February 02, 2020, 09:01:52 PM
The question was would Bazz have coached the 03 to a National Title, no? That's what I was responding to, anyway.
Actually, I thought the question was would have MU acquitted themselves better against Kansas if Buzz was the coach rather than Crean.
You piped in with some BS about that team not having enough JUCOS, obviously forgetting that Buzz's best team didn't have any on its roster.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 02, 2020, 09:13:26 PM
Actually, I thought the question was would have MU acquitted themselves better against Kansas if Buzz was the coach rather than Crean.
You piped in with some BS about that team not having enough JUCOS, obviously forgetting that Buzz's best team didn't have any on its roster.
Ah. Okay. Got it. So...Bazz, like Crean that game, had teams totally unprepared in NCAA Tournament losses.
Quote from: manesworld on February 02, 2020, 09:15:30 PM
Ah. Okay. Got it. So...Bazz, like Crean that game, had teams totally unprepared in NCAA Tournament losses.
Ah. Okay. Got it. So...when you said Buzz needed Jucos to win you were dead factually wrong since he had his best season without any on the roster. Thanks.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 02, 2020, 09:43:33 PM
Ah. Okay. Got it. So...when you said Buzz needed Jucos to win you were dead factually wrong since he had his best season without any on the roster. Thanks.
Sure! Somebody can't take a bit of sarcasm.
But I do enjoy you playing the roll for Bazz that Cheeks plays for Tom.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 02, 2020, 05:23:31 PM
Well. We finally can find something Buzz and Wojo have in common. 8-)
I think its a stupid argument and am projo but the 3 games u mentioned were deep into the tournament
Quote from: manesworld on February 02, 2020, 10:04:11 PM
Sure! Somebody can't take a bit of sarcasm.
LOL. Incapable of admitting you were wrong. Nothing new here.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 02, 2020, 10:39:46 PM
LOL. Incapable of admitting you were wrong. Nothing new here.
I am? Check my post history. Within the last 5 or so posts I admitted I was wrong.
I'll apologize for your inability to not get worked up over some sarcasm, though.
Now will you do the same? Bet not!
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 02, 2020, 08:58:52 PM
Buzz won 8 tournament games and lost games by 10 to an Elite 8 team and 18 and 19 to two final four teams.
Crean won 5 tournament games and lost by 12 to a round of 32 team by 30 something to a final four team.
Wojo has won zero tournament games and lost to a final four team by 20 and a round of 32 team by 19.
How can you use "elite 8" and "final four team" to qualify the loss when they got to those because of the win over us. It's like saying "al lost to a championship nc state team" it makes sense in the early rounds where a team can catch you off guard Because they're hot (South Carolina) but not when they became a final four team because they beat you in the elite 8
Quote from: manesworld on February 03, 2020, 07:18:55 AM
I'll apologize for your inability to not get worked up over some sarcasm, though.
Now will you do the same? Bet not!
No problem. I'll apologize for your inability to after the fact make a declarative statement seem like intended sarcasm.
So we're good. How much did we bet?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 03, 2020, 08:21:46 AM
How can you use "elite 8" and "final four team" to qualify the loss when they got to those because of the win over us. It's like saying "al lost to a championship nc state team" it makes sense in the early rounds where a team can catch you off guard Because they're hot (South Carolina) but not when they became a final four team because they beat you in the elite 8
Galway
I think when you're routed the quality of the team that routed you is a mitigating factor.
I honestly don't know what your point is.
Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 03, 2020, 08:21:46 AM
How can you use "elite 8" and "final four team" to qualify the loss when they got to those because of the win over us. It's like saying "al lost to a championship nc state team" it makes sense in the early rounds where a team can catch you off guard Because they're hot (South Carolina) but not when they became a final four team because they beat you in the elite 8
It's gotten to the point they're nitpicking over the quality of the rout.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 03, 2020, 09:42:43 AM
Galway
I think when you're routed the quality of the team that routed you is a mitigating factor.
I honestly don't know what your point is.
I agree about the quality of the team being a mitigating factor. But when you're playing in an elite 8 game saying we got routed by a Final Four team as proof the team was great doesn't make sense. At that point any team we lose to in the E8 is going to be a final four team
Quote from: Pakuni on February 03, 2020, 10:50:37 AM
It's gotten to the point they're nitpicking over the quality of the rout.
Buzz had the easier routs
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 03, 2020, 09:38:01 AM
No problem. I'll apologize for your inability to after the fact make a declarative statement seem like intended sarcasm.
So we're good. How much did we bet?
Figured you wouldn't. The irony of you saying I'm unable to admit I'm wrong when I just did a few posts ago, and then refusing to admit you had it wrong, is outstanding.
Quote from: manesworld on February 03, 2020, 12:04:03 PM
Figured you wouldn't. The irony of you saying I'm unable to admit I'm wrong when I just did a few posts ago, and then refusing to admit you had it wrong, is outstanding.
Huh? Guess you didn't get my obvious satcasm.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 31, 2020, 09:41:58 PM
So, you are cheering for the guy whose players found out he was quitting from his BIL on ESPN radio?
Well, let's be fair. If the Arrogant A$$wipe of Athens hadn't avoided Fr Wild's phone calls like the gutless sh1t that he is Marquette could have gotten ahead of the story and managed it properly.
Like my two year old hiding at bedtime only David has better hair...
Quote from: Jables1604 on February 01, 2020, 05:00:58 PM
That was Buzz asking Crean where in the arena the self-flushing toilets are located.
So the Manager's job was to...wipe?
Quote from: Cheeks on February 02, 2020, 02:58:05 AM
Lost the Final Four game by too much?
The most shameful night in the long, proud, storied history of one of college basketball's finest programs. And to be humiliated on so large a national stage.
Just think how KU would have really eviscerated us had we not had a roster composed of several NBA players including one of the best to ever lace 'em up.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 02, 2020, 05:46:38 PM
Well, Buzz is a Crean Guy
I knew the Buzz BS train was going to to be in full effect when he started with 'offensive savant'
Also shrewd to catch himself on improper contact by playing the I'm counting the days Shtick
Quote from: keefe on February 04, 2020, 02:42:36 AM
Just think how KU would have really eviscerated us had we not had a roster composed of several NBA players including one of the best to ever lace 'em up.
So just think how Kansas would have eviscerated us if we had a far different and far poorer team than the one that we actually had?
Quote from: keefe on February 04, 2020, 02:42:36 AM
The most shameful night in the long, proud, storied history of one of college basketball's finest programs. And to be humiliated on so large a national stage.
Just think how KU would have really eviscerated us had we not had a roster composed of several NBA players including one of the best to ever lace 'em up.
I choose to remember it as the only team in school history to make it that far under a coach not named Al. Plenty of luck along the way and it was a joy to watch.
Amen. TC > Buzzard.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 02, 2020, 10:25:03 AM
One continues to talk about MU in a glowing respect, found a way to celebrate 100 years of MU basketball, is respected by the most important key players of his past at MU who shine the brightest for MU. Left the program way better than he accepted it including leaving a stacked team for the next guy.
The other made his own bed with his own actions and those of his players and coaches, had a pout fest about it, trashed the program and conference on the way out, absent from the 100th, etc, etc. Went to a lower level program for less pay.
Indeed, what a choice.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 02, 2020, 08:38:37 PM
He won the Big East regular season championship (the old, best conference in the country Big East) and went to the Elite 8 without any judos - so there's that.
https://youtube.com/v/8GAfRnMwN1o
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 02, 2020, 08:58:52 PM
Buzz won 8 tournament games and lost games by 10 to an Elite 8 team and 18 and 19 to two final four teams.
Crean won 5 tournament games and lost by 12 to a round of 32 team by 30 something to a final four team.
Wojo has won zero tournament games and lost to a final four team by 20 and a round of 32 team by 19.
Buzz also was picked first to win the watered down Big East and he finished 6th and made no tournament if any kind. Buzz's boys also got us more off the court negative exposure than any MU team in 30 years.
Just win baby
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 02, 2020, 05:46:38 PM
Well, Buzz is a Crean Guy
Some heads exploded here with those comments about Crean from Buzz....the Buzz worshippers don't know what to do.
If only the Crean worshipers could set an example by being gracious.
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2020, 09:07:07 AM
If only the Crean worshipers could set an example by being gracious.
Being gracious is how stupid stuff like a kid in a dorm saying fire Wojo becomes a story with some legs here. Facts be damned.
Be the change you want to see. You are a smart guy. Use your powers for good.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 04, 2020, 09:11:47 AM
Being gracious is how stupid stuff like a kid in a dorm saying fire Wojo becomes a story with some legs here. Facts be damned.
kindly explain how these are connected.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 04, 2020, 08:22:47 AM
I choose to remember it as the only team in school history to make it that far under a coach not named Al. Plenty of luck along the way and it was a joy to watch.
It's not the journey in this case but the outcome.
Thrilled we made it to the Final Four. But to be humiliated so thoroughly was hateful. And before an entire nation made it all the more painful.
Too Tanned Tommy was utterly unprepared for the juggernaut that was KU. It gave credence to the whispers that Marquette didn't belong. And that is entirely on The Bronze Beast.
Quote from: keefe on February 04, 2020, 10:31:56 AM
It's not the journey in this case but the outcome.
Thrilled we made it to the Final Four. But to be humiliated so thoroughly was hateful. And before an entire nation made it all the more painful.
Too Tanned Tommy was utterly unprepared for the juggernaut that was KU. It gave credence to the whispers that Marquette didn't belong. And that is entirely on The Bronze Beast.
Beating Kentucky the week before proved we belonged, along with beating Pittsburgh and winning the conference. We beat the ACC, BIG TEN, SEC champions that year if I recall in that season. One game where we shot awful does not define a team.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 04, 2020, 09:11:47 AM
Being gracious is how stupid stuff like a kid in a dorm saying fire Wojo becomes a story with some legs here. Facts be damned.
WTF does this mean? You (the Crean worshiper) were gracious and that gave a story about a student wanting Wojo fired some legs?
Quote from: Cheeks on February 05, 2020, 08:38:45 AM
Beating Kentucky the week before proved we belonged, along with beating Pittsburgh and winning the conference. We beat the ACC, BIG TEN, SEC champions that year if I recall in that season. One game where we shot awful does not define a team.
Crapshoot, hey.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 05, 2020, 09:05:27 AM
Crapshoot, hey.
Tournament, yes. We beat Wake Forest and Wisconsin in the reg season, however.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 05, 2020, 09:06:51 AM
Tournament, yes. We beat Wake Forest and Wisconsin in the reg season, however.
Yeah, tournament games are crapshoots. Regular season games (Stephen F Austin at Duke, Evansville at Kentucky, etc.) aren't. LOL.
B*tiching about a Final Four appearance is peak Scoop.