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Title: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Dish on March 16, 2019, 08:13:18 PM
6 seed at Tulsa vs VCU. I think MU has 3 seed Houston potentially there after.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: brewcity77 on March 16, 2019, 08:15:03 PM
5-Seed in San Jose vs New Mexico State. Florida State if we win.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 16, 2019, 08:27:09 PM
5 versus 12. St Mary's in San Jose.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: MUDPT on March 16, 2019, 08:33:31 PM
5 vs. Murray state, FSU in next round in Hartford.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: CountryRoads on March 16, 2019, 08:34:04 PM
5 seed vs VCU. Jacksonville.  Let's go!!!!!
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Ron Swanson on March 16, 2019, 08:34:23 PM
7 seed vs Utah St. in Jacksonville
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: warriorfred on March 16, 2019, 08:34:34 PM
7 seed against Oklahoma in the West.  And the Warriors win it all in an epic performance.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: fjm on March 16, 2019, 08:36:23 PM
"And your 5 seed in the south, from the Big east, Marquette Golden Eagles, this team, who MuGuru says is trash and should fire their coach, finished 2nd in the big east with the Big East POY. They will head to Columbia SC to face the Vermont Catamounts." -Bryant Gumble - Michael Scott.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: YoungMUFan4 on March 16, 2019, 08:39:08 PM
6 versus Temple in Tulsa. LSU as the 3
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: dgies9156 on March 16, 2019, 08:43:34 PM
Quote from: AirPunch on March 16, 2019, 08:34:04 PM
5 seed vs VCU. Jacksonville.  Let's go!!!!!

See you in Jacksonville
;D

Here's hoping!!!
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Boston Warrior on March 16, 2019, 08:44:07 PM
Want no part of FSU or va tech in a 4 or 5 match up

Think we slide to 6

Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: GrimmReaper33 on March 16, 2019, 08:45:43 PM
I have a hard time seeing a 5 seed at this point.  Who are we ahead of to get a 5?
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Cheeks on March 16, 2019, 08:50:12 PM
6 seed against a play in team playing on Friday
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 16, 2019, 09:01:51 PM
5 seed in SLC vs New Mexico State.  Kansas is the 4 seed.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: WarriorFan on March 16, 2019, 09:03:46 PM
5 seed and headed west.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: muguru on March 16, 2019, 09:09:13 PM
Quote from: fjm on March 16, 2019, 08:36:23 PM
"And your 5 seed in the south, from the Big east, Marquette Golden Eagles, this team, who MuGuru says is trash and should fire their coach, finished 2nd in the big east with the Big East POY. They will head to Columbia SC to face the Vermont Catamounts." -Bryant Gumble - Michael Scott.

Excuse me?? Find one post where I said this team was trash..if you find that, I will never post here again..that's a promise. If i said that EXACT word, show me...You have taken great joy in this 5 out of 6 slide?? You think they have played well?? You mad about it?? You talk like a 5 seed should be something to celebrate...you do realize that just TWO weeks ago, they were SOLIDLY on the 3 line, and in contention for a two seed, right?? Stop and think about how MONUMENTAL their collapse has been in TWO weeks to fall 2-3 seed lines in that short of a time span. Think about that. Good, they are in the tournament..it's what you do once you get there. 

Find me another instance in the last 5-10 years where a team needed to win ONE game out of four..(with two being at home) to clinch a title..and couldn't/didn't do it. Put that in perspective just how monumental this collapse has been. Doesn't someone NEED to answer for that?? The Head Coach repeatedly states "it's on me". So why is this slide continuing, if it's on him?? Shouldn't he have fixed it by now?? Or...doesn't he know how?? If he doesn't know how, should he keep his job?
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: fjm on March 16, 2019, 09:17:38 PM
Sorry. You likely never said trash. Sorry.

Also, never once have I said I was happy or taken joy with the slide.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: muguru on March 16, 2019, 09:19:10 PM
Quote from: fjm on March 16, 2019, 09:17:38 PM
Sorry. You likely never said trash. Sorry.

Also, never once have I said I was happy or taken joy with the slide.

Stop putting words in my mouth...I'm NOT a happy camper, at all, haven't been for two weeks..with good reason. They can erase this VERY bad taste..let's see how they do next week.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: BM1090 on March 16, 2019, 09:20:10 PM
5 seed vs  Murray State in SLC
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 16, 2019, 09:40:20 PM
NVM
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: brewcity77 on March 16, 2019, 09:43:32 PM
Quote from: muguru on March 16, 2019, 09:09:13 PMExcuse me?? Find one post where I said this team was trash.

It's a joke, lighten up.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 16, 2019, 09:46:42 PM
5 seed vs. winner of a Dayton playoff game.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: WindyCityGoldenEagle on March 16, 2019, 10:56:14 PM
6 seed vs ASU with 3 seed Purdue waiting for us. Headed out west.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 16, 2019, 11:41:43 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 16, 2019, 09:46:42 PM
5 seed vs. winner of a Dayton playoff game.

Lots of bid stealers on the 12 line, per Bracket Matrix.  They can't go to Dayton.  I think the play-ins will both be 11s.

Which I'm honestly ok with.  We'll probably be a 5 or 6.  If we're a 5, we draw a team that got hot last week (Oregon, for ex) that hasn't done much all season.  If we're a 6, there's a good chance we get a meh high major team that will have less time to scout us and rest up after playing Dayton.

I'll go with 6, in Hartford, vs the winner of Temple and Arizona St
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2019, 11:44:14 PM
5 seed vs New Mexico State in Des Moines.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 16, 2019, 11:48:57 PM
6 seed in Tulsa versus Ohio State.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: muguru on March 16, 2019, 11:52:46 PM
6 seed vs TCU in San Jose
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: 21rooster on March 17, 2019, 12:01:59 AM
8 seed against Minnesota in des moines
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: BM1090 on March 17, 2019, 12:05:43 AM
Quote from: 21rooster on March 17, 2019, 12:01:59 AM
8 seed against Minnesota in des moines

Absolutely not gonna happen but I'd actually take this provided Duke wasn't the 1 seed.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: brewcity77 on March 17, 2019, 12:10:04 AM
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 16, 2019, 11:41:43 PMLots of bid stealers on the 12 line, per Bracket Matrix.  They can't go to Dayton.  I think the play-ins will both be 11s.

Agreed, unless they move a play-in down a line for bracketing purposes. I now have autobids all the way to the 11-line (Oregon is the last 11) & 3 teams on the 10-line are "first four byes." At least no more bids can be stolen (I already have St Louis penciled in).
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2019, 12:21:02 AM
5 seed v. SLU/St. Bona winner in Hartford
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Benny B on March 17, 2019, 12:23:11 AM
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on March 17, 2019, 12:05:43 AM
Absolutely not gonna happen but I'd actually take this provided Duke wasn't the 1 seed.

Duke isn't going to Des Moines.  Why do you think the NCAA always has a first round site in N or S Carolina?
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: 1SE on March 17, 2019, 12:29:29 AM
6 seed. Don't see how site can be any more than a random guess? Also pretty random on opponent, but let's say ASU. Play somewhere in the south. 
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Benny B on March 17, 2019, 12:51:09 AM
Quote from: 1SE on March 17, 2019, 12:29:29 AM
6 seed. Don't see how site can be any more than a random guess? Also pretty random on opponent, but let's say ASU. Play somewhere in the south.

You can eliminate Columbus and Columbia as those two sites will be hosting the four 1-pods.  Des Moines can also probably be eliminated as a site for two 2-pods.

5 seeds play in the 4-pod, 6 seeds in the 3-pod. 

So still random, but not a 1 in 8 guess by any stretch. 
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: 1SE on March 17, 2019, 12:57:12 AM
Quote from: Benny B on March 17, 2019, 12:51:09 AM
You can eliminate Columbus and Columbia as those two sites will be hosting the four 1-pods.  Des Moines can also probably be eliminated as a site for two 2-pods.

5 seeds play in the 4-pod, 6 seeds in the 3-pod. 

So still random, but not a 1 in 8 guess by any stretch.

So which are the potential 6 seed sites? Hartford, SLC, Jacksonville, Tulsa, San Jose?
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 17, 2019, 10:03:06 AM
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 17, 2019, 12:21:02 AM
5 seed v. SLU/St. Bona winner in Hartford

Yeah I have to imagine the committee has SLU and St Bona pencilled in to the same spot.  They're not going to upset the bracket in the final hours by making a contingency plan for whoever wins that game.

Same probably true for the Ivy winner.

Michigan-MSU probably doesn't matter for seeding.  They'll both be 2s. 

I don't think Auburn will slide up a line from 5 with a win, but I guess they could flip places with a 4 in their bracket.  Same with Tennessee.  The 1s are set.

Cincinnati with a win could move from 7 to 6.  I think that's maybe the only game with real bracket implications (and it could affect us, so go Houston).
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2019, 12:00:25 PM
Quote from: 21rooster on March 17, 2019, 12:01:59 AM
8 seed against Minnesota in des moines

This is the dumbest guess possible on like 5 levels
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: CountryRoads on March 17, 2019, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 17, 2019, 10:03:06 AM
Yeah I have to imagine the committee has SLU and St Bona pencilled in to the same spot.  They're not going to upset the bracket in the final hours by making a contingency plan for whoever wins that game.

Same probably true for the Ivy winner.

Michigan-MSU probably doesn't matter for seeding.  They'll both be 2s. 

I don't think Auburn will slide up a line from 5 with a win, but I guess they could flip places with a 4 in their bracket.  Same with Tennessee.  The 1s are set.

Cincinnati with a win could move from 7 to 6.  I think that's maybe the only game with real bracket implications (and it could affect us, so go Houston).

I think you're right about the IVY game and the SLU game but I highly doubt that the committee messes up the bracket with the remaining games. In other words, I think they're pretty meaningless.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on March 17, 2019, 12:05:58 PM
Quote from: WindyCityGoldenEagle on March 16, 2019, 10:56:14 PM
6 seed vs ASU with 3 seed Purdue waiting for us. Headed out west.

I would sign up for that with zero hesitation. In fact, anyone know a committee member I could bribe to make this happen?

I do think if ASU makes the cut there's a good chance we could be matched up for the "former K protege" narrative
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Cheeks on March 17, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2019, 12:00:25 PM
This is the dumbest guess possible on like 5 levels

He explained earlier he is using Net Rankings and said a 29 = 8 seed.  Not sure I agree, but there can see how someone got there with that data.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 17, 2019, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 16, 2019, 11:41:43 PM
Lots of bid stealers on the 12 line, per Bracket Matrix.  They can't go to Dayton.  I think the play-ins will both be 11s.

I'm not convinced the bid stealers are actually on the 12 line. I'm also not convinced that St. Mary's was a bid stealer. I think this will be a historically inaccurate year for the bracket matrix given the NET.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: WhiteTrash on March 17, 2019, 12:26:18 PM
Quote from: 21rooster on March 17, 2019, 12:01:59 AM
8 seed against Minnesota in des moines
Better chance we're a 16 seed.  :-\
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: warriorfred on March 17, 2019, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2019, 12:00:25 PM
This is the dumbest guess possible on like 5 levels

An 8 seed is possible.  Marquette is historically under-seeded, so take what you think is a reasonable seed (5 or 6) and drop it by a seed or two.  I think Marquette is a 5 seed, so I dropped them two lines to a 7 seed.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 17, 2019, 01:24:39 PM
Quote from: 21rooster on March 17, 2019, 12:01:59 AM
8 seed against Minnesota in des moines


That would make for some pretty expensive first round tickets.....
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Pakuni on March 17, 2019, 01:35:36 PM
Feeling irrationally optimistic today, so:
5 seed vs New Mexico State in Salt Lake City.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: BM1090 on March 17, 2019, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: warriorfred on March 17, 2019, 01:19:00 PM
An 8 seed is possible.  Marquette is historically under-seeded, so take what you think is a reasonable seed (5 or 6) and drop it by a seed or two.  I think Marquette is a 5 seed, so I dropped them two lines to a 7 seed.

No they aren't.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 17, 2019, 02:45:44 PM
West coast against a school located near the site.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: 21rooster on March 17, 2019, 02:46:20 PM
I'll admit that I wasn't thinking that they'd never put a one seed against those two teams in their back yard, but otherwise don't think it's crazy.  They wouldn't be ranked as of today, so that puts them on the 7 line on that basis.  RPI is 32.  I already addressed NET and the eye test over recent weeks. Maybe I'm convincing myself so I'm not disappointed, but there are a lot of reasons to say six isn't the base case. 
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: muguru on March 17, 2019, 02:57:59 PM
Wherever they go...unless it's Des Moines(highly unlikely)...Give me a Friday/Sunday site with a later(ish) start time. That way we have one full day or more to enjoy the tourney before worrying about MU.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
Quote from: Cheeks on March 17, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
He explained earlier he is using Net Rankings and said a 29 = 8 seed.  Not sure I agree, but there can see how someone got there with that data.

It's not just the fact we are an 8.

It's us being an 8.
Des Moines being a 1 seed pod
Them putting Marquette and Minny in such a prime location relative to whoever the 1 seed is.

The combination was of all 3 things makes it basically an impossible scenario.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2019, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: warriorfred on March 17, 2019, 01:19:00 PM
An 8 seed is possible.  Marquette is historically under-seeded, so take what you think is a reasonable seed (5 or 6) and drop it by a seed or two.  I think Marquette is a 5 seed, so I dropped them two lines to a 7 seed.

We've had pretty damn generous seeds since 2009.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Cheeks on March 17, 2019, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
It's not just the fact we are an 8.

It's us being an 8.
Des Moines being a 1 seed pod
Them putting Marquette and Minny in such a prime location relative to whoever the 1 seed is.

The combination was of all 3 things makes it basically an impossible scenario.

Ahh, gotcha.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: muguru on March 17, 2019, 03:21:54 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2019, 03:17:27 PM
We've had pretty damn generous seeds since 2009.

I don't know about generous seeds, but one thing they always seemingly have is a tough as hell draw...every year. Whether it's a bad matchup, or playing a team in their back yard...why can't MU ever be the team that gets the relatively "cake" draw to the Sweet 16??
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: 21rooster on March 17, 2019, 03:22:26 PM


Yes.  Very little thought went into location due to beer, wine, whiskey and the pointless exercise of guessing location.  You got me. 
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: The Sultan on March 17, 2019, 03:33:45 PM
#6 v Temple/OSU play in winner in Jacksonville. #3 is FSU.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 17, 2019, 03:35:07 PM
Quote from: 21rooster on March 17, 2019, 03:22:26 PM

Yes.  Very little thought went into location due to beer, wine, whiskey and the pointless exercise of guessing location.  You got me.

So, Salt Lake City is out then
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: dgies9156 on March 17, 2019, 03:44:57 PM
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 17, 2019, 03:33:45 PM
#6 v Temple/OSU play in winner in Jacksonville. #3 is FSU.

Brother Fluffy, I really hope so.

Means no airplanes and I can go home after the game!
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: pbiflyer on March 17, 2019, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 17, 2019, 03:44:57 PM
Brother Fluffy, I really hope so.

Means no airplanes and I can go home after the game!

So we are all going to your house for post game celebration?
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: brewcity77 on March 17, 2019, 04:50:38 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 17, 2019, 12:00:25 PM
This is the dumbest guess possible on like 5 levels

Let's see if I can get to 5...

Doh...that's all I've got.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: dgies9156 on March 17, 2019, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: pbiflyer on March 17, 2019, 04:26:39 PM
So we are all going to your house for post game celebration?

Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: drewm88 on March 17, 2019, 05:07:24 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2019, 04:50:38 PM
Let's see if I can get to 5...

  • No way we are an 8.
  • No 1-seed would play in Des Moines. Those teams will be in Columbia, Columbus, & maybe Jacksonville.
  • The only 1 that might play there is a Michigan team, & it's unlikely they will match Minnesota with a second round Big 10 team.
  • Both us & Minnesota would have a geographical advantage on any potential second round 1-seed in Des Moines. Not a strict guideline, but unlikely.
Doh...that's all I've got.

So much for 2 of those.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 17, 2019, 05:40:52 PM
  so we won't face buzz till the final four?   ;)
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: The Equalizer on March 17, 2019, 05:47:09 PM
Quote from: MUDPT on March 16, 2019, 08:33:31 PM
5 vs. Murray state, FSU in next round in Hartford.

Congrats--it only took 4 posts into the thread to nail it.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: warriors1991 on March 17, 2019, 05:48:56 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on March 17, 2019, 05:47:09 PM
Congrats--it only took 4 posts into the thread to nail it.

That's seriously impressive that you nailed it exactly.
Title: Re: MU NCAA Seed/Site/Opponent Prediction
Post by: fjm on March 17, 2019, 06:15:29 PM
Quote from: MUDPT on March 16, 2019, 08:33:31 PM
5 vs. Murray state, FSU in next round in Hartford.

How do I get a job on the committee with you?
Do you like working in the committee?? ;)
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