Poll
Question:
OK, here's what if. Xavier beats Nova today (game still going on). Do you let Howard sit on Wednesday and play Nova without Howard knowing you have 2 games up in the loss column?
Option 1: Yes, let Markus heal for the stretch run. Game isn't must have.
Option 2: No, go for the jugular vein.
Option 3: Depends how hurt MH is and time he needs to rest to get healthy
Have at it....blast away.
Lol
Just a guess, but if Wojo was comfortable letting Markus play while up 20 in the final minutes against Providence, I can't imagine he is that hurt.
I think it's a pointless question to ask since we don't know the extent of the injury
Still a Q1 win opportunity I believe. I can't even imagine the thought crosses Wojo's mind unless Markus could do further damage by playing.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 24, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Just a guess, but if Wojo was comfortable letting Markus play while up 20 in the final minutes against Providence, I can't imagine he is that hurt.
Probably right, but thought it worth the discussion. We have three games next 10 days. If he sits (which is not how I voted), it would mean 7.5 days to heal up from yesterday.
The other part of the question is whether he risks further aggravation.
One of the silliest things I have seen on Scoop.
Quote from: Jockey on February 24, 2019, 02:15:57 PM
One of the silliest things I have seen on Scoop.
I dunno, is it dumb and dangerous?
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 24, 2019, 02:13:16 PM
I think it's a pointless question to ask since we don't know the extent of the injury
Yup.
I think it's safe to say the coaching staff knows better than anyone that this team is hitched to Markus' wagon and they're not going to anything to risk his availability for a tourney run. If he's playing, it's because they're confident it won't make that injury worse.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 24, 2019, 02:12:44 PM
Just a guess, but if Wojo was comfortable letting Markus play while up 20 in the final minutes against Providence, I can't imagine he is that hurt.
This.
Unless something happens in practice from yesterday-Wednesday.
I don't see how he sits out when he played to the horn in a blow out.
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 24, 2019, 02:15:05 PM
Still a Q1 win opportunity I believe. I can't even imagine the thought crosses Wojo's mind unless Markus could do further damage by playing.
this and play him judiciously. suit him up and play him, yet try to get brendan and cain some more quality time. don't give up on this one as it's still a quality win if we can get it(we will :) )
what's up with koby, mike and/or buddy?
Quote from: cheebs09 on February 24, 2019, 02:15:05 PM
Still a Q1 win opportunity I believe. I can't even imagine the thought crosses Wojo's mind unless Markus could do further damage by playing.
at Nova is always going to be Q1. Not possible for them to fall outta the top 75 lol.
Our home win vs them will be out of Q1 tho...unless they beat us I'm guessing.
Quote from: Jockey on February 24, 2019, 02:15:57 PM
One of the silliest things I have seen on Scoop.
I love how I am ignored by Jockey......your slip is showing.
OH Canada.....now that is silly and dumb.
Quote from: Bocephys on February 24, 2019, 02:16:59 PM
I dunno, is it dumb and dangerous?
I don't think so. If he is hurt, don't play him. But since he played until the end yesterday, my guess is that he is not hurt.
But to sit him otherwise, is foolhardy. We have a very good chance to win the BE outright. To advocate to purposely jeopardize that seems crazy to me.
Quote from: Bocephys on February 24, 2019, 02:16:59 PM
I dunno, is it dumb and dangerous?
Meme tournament comeback
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 24, 2019, 02:41:09 PM
Why are u so stupid?
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Quote from: Bocephys on February 24, 2019, 02:16:59 PM
I dunno, is it dumb and dangerous?
All a crapshoot anyway, hey!
Silly thread. Markus was playing all game in a blow out where he absolutely did not have to be in. I think he is fine
Gospel this morning said to be nice.
Interesting results.
60% open to the idea of sitting outright or potentially depending on severity of injury and time needed to heal for longer term.
I thought that number would be smaller with more saying go for the jugular
Quote from: Cheeks on February 24, 2019, 03:37:50 PM
Interesting results.
60% open to the idea of sitting outright or potentially depending on severity of injury and time needed to heal for longer term.
I thought that number would be smaller with more saying go for the jugular
Probably because most people are taking this thread for what it is. A joke.
We start winning games after 4 years of rebuilding and people have nothing to complain about so they just start bickering about anything and everything. Obnoxious.
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 24, 2019, 03:47:19 PM
We start winning games after 4 years of rebuilding and people have nothing to complain about so they just start bickering about anything and everything. Obnoxious.
The hostility of this board is quite comical. Do we really hate it. Or do we deep down secretly love it
Quote from: Johnny B on February 24, 2019, 03:50:19 PM
The hostility of this board is quite comical. Do we really hate it. Or do we deep down secretly love it
I certainly hate it, yet I still choose to spend my time here.
So Villanova has lost 3 straight, and we are in the drivers seat right now. They will definitely be pissed off when they play us on Wednesday, and will likely shoot real well from 3 on their home floor. We absolutely need to bring our A game on Wednesday and kick their ass. Villanova lost a ton of people off last years team and we should beat them. We have more talent, except in the coaching category. It is time to make a statement and whoop their ass. It is time to take control of the BEast. It is time we show that we deserve the national respect. It is coming down to crunch time and we need to take care of business. Beat their ass and do well in the Beast tourney, and we deserve a 2 line. If we do that, there are only 3 teams in the country that we could have a problem with; Duke, Kentucky, and Gonzaga. Ummm...maybe 4 since we cannot seem to beat St. Johns.
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 24, 2019, 03:47:19 PM
We start winning games after 4 years of rebuilding and people have nothing to complain about so they just start bickering about anything and everything. Obnoxious.
I agree, the mods need to hand out Xanax with the bans. Many of the posters need to focus the energy going into the animosity into something good.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 24, 2019, 03:37:50 PM
Interesting results.
60% open to the idea of sitting outright or potentially depending on severity of injury and time needed to heal for longer term.
I thought that number would be smaller with more saying go for the jugular
Why is it surprising? If we were a game back & this could bring us into a tie with tiebreaker, I'd still say base it on the severity of the injury. Don't get me wrong, I want the Big East title, but it's more important to have Howard healthy in the weeks to come than to risk him now if there was a serious concern. (I don't believe there is, but if there was, no one regular season game would be worth the risk.)
I look at it this way. Medical staff determines whether or not Markus is able to play. If able to play coaching staff makes ordinary course determination of playing time.
My feeling is if Markus can play, he should get enough reps to stay in good form, but would prefer to see his minutes on the lower end.
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on February 24, 2019, 03:47:19 PM
We start winning games after 4 years of rebuilding and people have nothing to complain about so they just start bickering about anything and everything. Obnoxious.
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Quote from: MUfanatic45 on February 24, 2019, 02:24:39 PM
at Nova is always going to be Q1. Not possible for them to fall outta the top 75 lol.
Our home win vs them will be out of Q1 tho...unless they beat us I'm gue
Another thing that is so silly about the NET. Go VU so we can keep our Q1 win!
Quote from: wadesworld on February 24, 2019, 03:43:40 PM
Probably because most people are taking this thread for what it is. A joke.
That's not how they are voting, but keep going with it. Admit it, you thought it would be about 75% go for Jugular. I did, but that's what made the results interesting as folks were willing to entertain at least seeing how bad the injury was.
As stated, I didn't vote to rest him, few people did. He was moving around pretty good on campus today per mi amigos.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 25, 2019, 12:48:34 AM
That's not how they are voting, but keep going with it. Admit it, you thought it would be about 75% go for Jugular. I did, but that's what made the results interesting as folks were willing to entertain at least seeing how bad the injury was.
As stated, I didn't vote to rest him, few people did. He was moving around pretty good on campus today per mi amigos.
I voted depends on how hurt he is because that is obviously the right choice. Doesn't mean this thread isn't a joke cuz it is. It's just senseless. He played during a blowout. This would not happen if he had even the slightest concerning injury. He's fine. There is no reason to think he has a legit injury. It's just ridiculous.
If there's any doubts about it, I'd at least have him on a pitch count.
It'd be great to lock up the top seed on Wednesday, but gotta take the longer view if they think it's a potentially nagging injury.
How will he climb the ladder on the bench. He needs to play 40.
Depends upon the severity of the injury (which we don't know) and the chances that playing with it may aggravate the injury (which we don't know). Why don't we defer to the people who do know? I know having strong opinions without any knowledge of the facts is popular here but I'll sit this one out.
Quote from: Cheeks on February 25, 2019, 12:48:34 AM
That's not how they are voting, but keep going with it. Admit it, you thought it would be about 75% go for Jugular. I did, but that's what made the results interesting as folks were willing to entertain at least seeing how bad the injury was.
As stated, I didn't vote to rest him, few people did. He was moving around pretty good on campus today per mi amigos.
I didn't expect anything. I took the thread as a joke and voted to sit him, because the question is hysterical. The guy was playing until 0:00.00 were left on the clock in a game we won by 18. If it were a serious injury or an injury that could get worse by playing him, he would've been out as much as he possibly could have. Given that he wasn't, he's just fine.
If, Heaven forbid, between now and Wednesday he tears his ACL? Yeah, I say sit him. But sit him against Nova because he might be dinged up? Every high level athlete talks about how the only day you're 100% healthy is the very first day of practice. I don't think Markus is 100% healthy. I don't think anyone on the team is. Markus will and should play Wednesday.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 24, 2019, 06:10:49 PM
Why is it surprising? If we were a game back & this could bring us into a tie with tiebreaker, I'd still say base it on the severity of the injury. Don't get me wrong, I want the Big East title, but it's more important to have Howard healthy in the weeks to come than to risk him now if there was a serious concern. (I don't believe there is, but if there was, no one regular season game would be worth the risk.)
I was surprised the go for jugular wasn't much higher. I figured, obviously in error, that people would throw caution to the wind and say go for it.
Has Markus made (even attempted) his patented step back jumper since being hurt in the Providence game? I can't remember any, but I missed 1.5 of the games.
In that PC game after he got hurt, he became very north south, lost explosiveness. He hasn't been the same since in terms of explosiveness.
Quote from: Cheeks on March 11, 2019, 04:25:03 PM
Has Markus made (even attempted) his patented step back jumper since being hurt in the Providence game? I can't remember any, but I missed 1.5 of the games.
In that PC game after he got hurt, he became very north south, lost explosiveness. He hasn't been the same since in terms of explosiveness.
Yes. He hit one from the corner at Nova. He hit one vs. Creighton I believe. Don't remember any from SHU or GT. He did try one against Gtown in the last 2-3 minutes and lost control of the ball right to the defender.
has anyone with the team actually said that Markus wrist is hurt? He certainly doesn't seem right, but I thought it was his hip that was bugging him.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 11, 2019, 04:53:59 PM
has anyone with the team actually said that Markus wrist is hurt? He certainly doesn't seem right, but I thought it was his hip that was bugging him.
I don't think anyone has said it but he's had it taped every game since he fell and never had it taped before that.
I thought he strained a groin, not his hip.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 11, 2019, 04:53:59 PM
has anyone with the team actually said that Markus wrist is hurt? He certainly doesn't seem right, but I thought it was his hip that was bugging him.
It wasn't a hip, it was the groin. MU would be dumb to say publicly the player is hurt and limited. I suspect that all comes out after the season is over.
groin against providence when chicos made this thread. a game that mu won by 20 and markus played to the buzzer. if there was one hint of injury he wouldve been out long before 0s were on the clock. chicos just wants some attention.
fell on his wrist against nova. but again has missed no time.
hes not lacking anything. hes being defended differently and hes not getting the bump foul calls on the hard hedge by help defenders up top that sent him to the line so often earlier in the season and as a result defenders can just stay attached to him and he cant create space with the step back.
theres a difference between being injured and playing poorly.
Quote from: WithoutBias on March 11, 2019, 05:15:28 PM
groin against providence when chicos made this thread. a game that mu won by 20 and markus played to the buzzer. if there was one hint of injury he wouldve been out long before 0s were on the clock. chicos just wants some attention.
fell on his wrist against nova. but again has missed no time.
hes not lacking anything. hes being defended differently and hes not getting the bump foul calls on the hard hedge by help defenders up top that sent him to the line so often earlier in the season and as a result defenders can just stay attached to him and he cant create space with the step back.
theres a difference between being injured and playing poorly.
He has not had the same explosiveness even in that PC game after being hurt. Not as much lift. Yes, he kept playing and many posters not named me in that game also commented on how he wasn't the same. Ignore that if you wish.
There's also playing poorly because you are injured.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 11, 2019, 04:53:59 PM
has anyone with the team actually said that Markus wrist is hurt? He certainly doesn't seem right, but I thought it was his hip that was bugging him.
They talked about it on the broadcast on Saturday. It is also taped.