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Awesome n deserved!
He is good at basketball.
Jeez if he keeps improving he may be a 2 and through type player
Quote from: Johnny B on January 28, 2019, 11:36:08 AM
Jeez if he keeps improving he may be a 2 and through type player
I've never heard that one before, are there others?
My submissions below to the intelligentsia:
Three and free
Four and out the door
Five and trying to keep the dream alive
O'Tule and make hay
But he can't crack Scoop SOTG...
Absolutely great for Joey, the 2018-19 BE Freshman of the Year.
However, the Big East apparently has become as used to Markus' excellence as Scoop has, because he failed to winBEPOW this week despite averaging 27 ppg and 6.4 apg this week - instead it went to Tayshon Alexander with 22.5/2.5
Quote from: LloydsLegs on January 28, 2019, 12:11:54 PM
But he can't crack Scoop SOTG...
Trying to find the link and can't...but saw an old Bob Knight interview where he tells a story about when he coached Michael Jordan for USA Basketball.
MJ had an amazing 24 pts and 10 rebounds at halftime, and the team was getting too relaxed in the locker room. Knight says he has an idea how to get the other guys' attention...he makes a beeline to Jordan, who was facing his locker and wiping sweat off, and goes, "Goddamnit, Michael, didn't anyone teach you how to set a damn screen?! You didn't set one freakin screen out there the whole half!" Knight said MJ looked him directly in the eye and, sure that the others couldn't see it, cracked a big smile.
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on January 28, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Absolutely great for Joey, the 2018-19 BE Freshman of the Year.
However, the Big East apparently has become as used to Markus' excellence as Scoop has, because he failed to winBEPOW this week despite averaging 27 ppg and 6.4 apg this week - instead it went to Tayshon Alexander with 22.5/2.5
Wow
I want a recount!!!
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on January 28, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Absolutely great for Joey, the 2018-19 BE Freshman of the Year.
However, the Big East apparently has become as used to Markus' excellence as Scoop has, because he failed to winBEPOW this week despite averaging 27 ppg and 6.4 apg this week - instead it went to Tayshon Alexander with 22.5/2.5
Markus Howard getting Scoop's SOTG treatment. I think they already know he has Big East POY locked up that they want other players to feel appreciated. ;)
Booth if anyone has it locked up.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 03:40:22 AM
Booth if anyone has it locked up.
Better scoring? Nope. Better Assist numbers? Nope. Better rebounding? Nope. Better record? Nope. But sure he's got it locked up.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 03:40:22 AM
Booth if anyone has it locked up.
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Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 29, 2019, 03:55:14 AM
Better scoring? Nope. Better Assist numbers? Nope. Better rebounding? Nope. Better record? Nope. But sure he's got it locked up.
To be fair, right now Booth's team does have a better record. But your point is well-taken and far superior to the other gentleman's typical shoot-from-the-hip, thinking-not-necessary silliness.
Quote from: MU82 on January 29, 2019, 08:15:26 AM
To be fair, right now Booth's team does have a better record. But your point is well-taken and far superior to the other gentleman's typical shoot-from-the-hip, thinking-not-necessary silliness.
In the Big East yes, I was referencing overall. But as it is Big East POY I suppose the overall record doesn't matter.
From the media, it seems like it's a race between Markus and Shamorie Ponds. Haven't really heard much about Booth. But with St. John's falling behind in the standings, we might see other names crop up, Booth among them..
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts. Shamorie, booth n marcus have nothing locked up. The next 6 weeks will go along way in determining who ultimately wins. And numbers aside it will most likely go to a player on the team that wins the BE title. Additionally, with all the talk of Shamorie and Markus, Booth has been playing at an incredible level, shooting a really nice percentage, playing outstanding defense, and has a great assist to tyrnover ratio.
Classic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way. The jim acosta of scoop.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts. Shamorie, booth n marcus have nothing locked up. The next 6 weeks will go along way in determining who ultimately wins. And numbers aside it will most likely go to a player on the team that wins the BE title. Additionally, with all the talk of Shamorie and Markus, Booth has been playing at an incredible level, shooting a really nice percentage, playing outstanding defense, and has a great assist to tyrnover ratio.
Classic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way. The jim acosta of scoop.
Recent winners include Billy Garrett, Angel Delgado and Henry Ellenson. All three came from teams with losing records in conference.
So I don't think standings matter anywhere close as much as you think it does.
The past few BigEast POY:
Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Kris Dunn, Ryan Arcidiacono, Doug McDermott, Otto Porter, Jae Crowder
all from teams with winning records in conference
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts.
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Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts. Shamorie, booth n marcus have nothing locked up. The next 6 weeks will go along way in determining who ultimately wins. And numbers aside it will most likely go to a player on the team that wins the BE title. Additionally, with all the talk of Shamorie and Markus, Booth has been playing at an incredible level, shooting a really nice percentage, playing outstanding defense, and has a great assist to tyrnover ratio.
Classic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way. The jim acosta of scoop.
Seeing as that's only happened 6 out of the 13 years we've been in the league, despite years with co-champions and co-POYs...
Maybe they just pick the best player regardless of team. And maybe transcendent players put their teams in position to win titles.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 29, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
Recent winners include Billy Garrett, Angel Delgado and Henry Ellenson. All three came from teams with losing records in conference.
So I don't think standings matter anywhere close as much as you think it does.
Those were
Freshman of the Year winners.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts. Shamorie, booth n marcus have nothing locked up. The next 6 weeks will go along way in determining who ultimately wins. And numbers aside it will most likely go to a player on the team that wins the BE title. Additionally, with all the talk of Shamorie and Markus, Booth has been playing at an incredible level, shooting a really nice percentage, playing outstanding defense, and has a great assist to tyrnover ratio.
Classic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way. The jim acosta of scoop.
i once knew a man that worked his whole life in a management role, and was widely respected as being an a$$. in his last year before retirement a co-worker told him he was an a$$ and told him he should just try enjoying those that he worked with...the guy enjoyed work, and his co-workers, so much that he worked another 7 years. sand-knit, my friend, don't be an a$$.
Quote from: mikekinsellaMVP on January 29, 2019, 09:42:37 AM
Those were Freshman of the Year winners.
Oh I thought that's what he was talking about. His poor grammar and spelling confuse me. Thanks.
Obviously it was a tongue-in-cheek comment that Markus has it locked up. However, he still has the best chance out of all the other guys even if Marquette finishes behind Villanova. Just don't fall behind St. John's.
Congrats to Joey! That is awesome! Let's go for a sweep - three in a row!
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts.
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QuoteClassic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way.
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QuoteThe jim acosta of scoop.
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FYI, looked back on BEFOW
* JH 4, Reeves 3, Akinjo 2 so far
* didnt realize GT had 3 decent freshmen
11/12 Reeves PR
11/19 Akinjo GT
11/26 Reeves
12/3 Reeves
12/10 JH
12/18 Zergarowski CR
12/23 McClung GT
1/1 LeBlanc GT
1/7 JH
1/14 Akinjo
1/21 JH
1/28 JH
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts. Shamorie, booth n marcus have nothing locked up. The next 6 weeks will go along way in determining who ultimately wins. And numbers aside it will most likely go to a player on the team that wins the BE title. Additionally, with all the talk of Shamorie and Markus, Booth has been playing at an incredible level, shooting a really nice percentage, playing outstanding defense, and has a great assist to tyrnover ratio.
Classic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way. The jim acosta of scoop.
As usual, here's what happened:
You throw something silly out there as an absolute, "I'm right and everybody else is wrong" opinion disguised as fact:
Booth if anyone has it locked up.Then you get called out on your dopiness by several Scoopers, including me.
Then, realizing you were wrong but not willing to admit it, you attack those who point out you were wrong while trying to explain you really meant something other than your first shoot-from-the-hip post. Just like your past posts ripping Sacar and Luke. Lather, rinse, repeat.
You cap it off with your ignorant attack on journalists, as if that has anything to do with this conversation at all.
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 29, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
Recent winners include Billy Garrett, Angel Delgado and Henry Ellenson. All three came from teams with losing records in conference.
So I don't think standings matter anywhere close as much as you think it does.
We r actually talking about BE POY, plz attempt to keep up. Markus, shamorie , n booth are not eligible.
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on January 29, 2019, 09:35:14 AM
The past few BigEast POY:
Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Kris Dunn, Ryan Arcidiacono, Doug McDermott, Otto Porter, Jae Crowder
all from teams with winning records in conference
And most from the conf. Champion
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 11:34:34 AM
We r actually talking about BE POY, plz attempt to keep up. Markus, shamorie , n booth are not eligible.
In the "Joey Repeats As Big East Freshman of the Week" thread - try to keep up.
Quote from: wade_county37 on January 29, 2019, 09:55:08 AM
Obviously it was a tongue-in-cheek comment that Markus has it locked up. However, he still has the best chance out of all the other guys even if Marquette finishes behind Villanova. Just don't fall behind St. John's.
With Markuss powerful numbers, if Mu stays close to Villanova he has a chance. If mu win BE its his. If nova wins BE by more than a game or two i feel it will go to booth, JMHO
Quote from: MU82 on January 29, 2019, 11:30:16 AM
As usual, here's what happened:
You throw something silly out there as an absolute, "I'm right and everybody else is wrong" opinion disguised as fact:
Booth if anyone has it locked up.
Then you get called out on your dopiness by several Scoopers, including me.
Then, realizing you were wrong but not willing to admit it, you attack those who point out you were wrong while trying to explain you really meant something other than your first shoot-from-the-hip post. Just like your past posts ripping Sacar and Luke. Lather, rinse, repeat.
You cap it off with your ignorant attack on journalists, as if that has anything to do with this conversation at all.
The booth comment was as silly as the previous one that Markus had it locked up. U cant see that because u choose not to, its ok, i know thats who u are. A poor trait we see in many journalists today.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 11:35:47 AM
And most from the conf. Champion
Last 10 POYs and whether their team was regular season championship:
Brunson - No
Hart - Yes
Dunn/Arcidiacono - No/Yes
McDermott - No
Porter - No
Crowder - No
Ben Hansbrough - No
Wes Johnson - Yes
Thabeet/Blair - No/No
Harangody - No
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on January 28, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Absolutely great for Joey, the 2018-19 BE Freshman of the Year.
However, the Big East apparently has become as used to Markus' excellence as Scoop has, because he failed to winBEPOW this week despite averaging 27 ppg and 6.4 apg this week - instead it went to Tayshon Alexander with 22.5/2.5
I still think A.J. Reeves from Providence will be Freshman of the year in the Big East despite being out all this time. The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Last 10 POYs and whether their team was regular season championship:
Brunson - No
Hart - Yes
Dunn/Arcidiacono - No/Yes
McDermott - No
Porter - No
Crowder - No
Ben Hansbrough - No
Wes Johnson - Yes
Thabeet/Blair - No/No
Harangody - No
Are you really using facts in a discussion with MSK? You know he throws those out the window.
As for Beast Freshman of the year, I think Joey is making a vey strong case. Reeves hurt his chances with the amount of time off he had because of the injury, and if Gtown gets on a roll, McClung and Akinjo will likely steal votes from each other. What other candidates are out there? Duke hasn't put up great numbers, Bey has been solid but not great either. Zegarowski?
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 29, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
I still think A.J. Reeves from Providence will be Freshman of the year in the Big East despite being out all this time. The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.
Five of the last 10 BE newcomers of the year have come from Midwestern schools (Lance Stephenson, Cleveland Melvin, Billy Garret Jr., Henry Ellenson and Justin Patton), so I wouldn't say they
all go to the East Coast schools.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 29, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
I still think A.J. Reeves from Providence will be Freshman of the year in the Big East despite being out all this time. The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.
Dont disagree but some coaches will not even face Reeves, kinda hard for them to vote for them under those conditions.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 12:14:01 PM
Dont disagree but some coaches will not even face Reeves, kinda hard for them to vote for them under those conditions.
Reeves is back, so he'll face every team at least once.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 29, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.
I wouldn't say that; but I do think that the coaches try to "spread the wealth", so if, say, a coach were to vote for Markus as POY, I think that would make him less likely to vote for Joey as FOY.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Last 10 POYs and whether their team was regular season championship:
Brunson - No
Hart - Yes
Dunn/Arcidiacono - No/Yes
McDermott - No
Porter - No
Crowder - No
Ben Hansbrough - No
Wes Johnson - Yes
Thabeet/Blair - No/No
Harangody - No
Some are allergic to facts, Pakuni. Nice job.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 29, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
I still think A.J. Reeves from Providence will be Freshman of the year in the Big East despite being out all this time. The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.
Since the reformation, the Big East Freshman of the Year Award has gone to:
Billy Garrett Jr (DePaul)
Angel Delgado (Seton Hall)
Henry Ellenson (Marquette)
Justin Patton (Creighton)
Omari Spellman (Villanova)
So 3/5 have gone to Midwest schools.
The POY award has been a little more titled toward East coast schools since the reformation, 4/5 going to east coast schools, including a year where two east coast schools had co-POYers so 5/6 in a way. But with those award going to Kris Dunn (x2), Josh Hart, and Jalen Brunson, I don't think this come from East Coast bias so much as they were the actual best players in the conference that year. The only one I would maybe question is Ryan Arcidiacano of Nova...but he was co-POY with Dunn.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts. Shamorie, booth n marcus have nothing locked up. The next 6 weeks will go along way in determining who ultimately wins. And numbers aside it will most likely go to a player on the team that wins the BE title. Additionally, with all the talk of Shamorie and Markus, Booth has been playing at an incredible level, shooting a really nice percentage, playing outstanding defense, and has a great assist to tyrnover ratio.
Classic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way. The jim acosta of scoop.
I agree with this analysis.
Love me some Acosta. He refuses to be intimidated and demands the truth. Throwing that out there since we're apparantly talking about him
Dear Mods:
Is Sand Knut and Texas Western/Gus Ganakus/MUFINY/Herm/GodKnowsHowManyOtherSockPuppets assininery enough to shut down the thread?
'Cause if not, I could post John Cleese's "Ode to Hannity".
I like how clueless MSK thinks he's insulting me by calling me a journalist.
Very proud to be associated with that profession, which is more important now than ever. Reporters have been American heroes these last 2+ years.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Last 10 POYs and whether their team was regular season championship:
Brunson - No
Hart - Yes
Dunn/Arcidiacono - No/Yes
McDermott - No
Porter - No
Crowder - No
Ben Hansbrough - No
Wes Johnson - Yes
Thabeet/Blair - No/No
Harangody - No
MU was reg season champ when Crowder was BEPOY iirc..
Quote from: milwaukee ex-pat on January 29, 2019, 04:05:49 PM
MU was reg season champ when Crowder was BEPOY iirc..
Nope. 2nd behind [vacated] Syracuse.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on January 29, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Nope. 2nd behind [vacated] Syracuse.
Vacated is so ridiculous. It's fun to claim we won the BE in 2012 but it's doesn't change jack. We still lost 4 times, one of those to Cuse. If they vacated why doesn't our record show 14-3 BE that year?
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 11:43:01 AM
The booth comment was as silly as the previous one that Markus had it locked up. U cant see that because u choose not to, its ok, i know thats who u are. A poor trait we see in many journalists today.
SAD!
Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Last 10 POYs and whether their team was regular season championship:
Brunson - No
Hart - Yes
Dunn/Arcidiacono - No/Yes
McDermott - No
Porter - No
Crowder - No
Ben Hansbrough - No
Wes Johnson - Yes
Thabeet/Blair - No/No
Harangody - No
might be a bit misleading with first or not first.
The last ten POY were on teams that averaged a 14-4 record.
Dunn with Providence the only POY on a team with more than 4 losses. 11-7 and 10-8
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on January 29, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Nope. 2nd behind [vacated] Syracuse.
Did we hang a banner for 2012 (Crowder's team)? I only remember seeing a banner for 2013 (Vander's team).
Quote from: MU82 on January 29, 2019, 04:03:39 PM
I like how clueless MSK thinks he's insulting me by calling me a journalist.
Very proud to be associated with that profession, which is more important now than ever. Reporters have been American heroes these last 2+ years.
Bye reporters, ya meen all reporters, aina?
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 29, 2019, 03:55:14 AM
Better scoring? Nope. Better Assist numbers? Nope. Better rebounding? Nope. Better record? Nope. But sure he's got it locked up.
Fanta thinks Booth is right there for POY
https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1090374085144690688
Quote from: Cheeks on January 29, 2019, 08:51:55 PM
Fanta thinks Booth is right there for POY
https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1090374085144690688
What is the deal with him? Is he Val's nephew or something? No way he has this job based on merit.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 29, 2019, 07:51:04 PM
Bye reporters, ya meen all reporters, aina?
Of course not. Are all dentists paragons of society?
Thank goodness for the free press, the allies of the people.
Quote from: MU82 on January 29, 2019, 09:43:20 PM
Of course not. Are all dentists paragons of society?
Thank goodness for the free press, the allies of the people.
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Quote from: warriorchick on January 29, 2019, 09:02:42 PM
What is the deal with him? Is he Val's nephew or something? No way he has this job based on merit.
The young man is a student at Seton Hall.
Quote from: Cheeks on January 29, 2019, 08:51:55 PM
Fanta thinks Booth is right there for POY
https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1090374085144690688
Being in the race is much different than locked up. DJO was in the race for BE POY so was Lazar, neither were actually going to win it.
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 30, 2019, 12:30:19 AM
The young man is a student at Seton Hall.
And yet my original questions go unanswered.
Quote from: NickelDimer on January 29, 2019, 03:16:56 PM
Love me some Acosta. He refuses to be intimidated and demands the truth. Throwing that out there since we're apparantly talking about him
We need good journalists. Acosta seems to trip over his own feet by baiting and misleading his subjects. He's bad. We've never seen so much false news spread by the media the past two years.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 30, 2019, 08:17:10 AM
We need good journalists. Acosta seems to trip over his own feet by baiting and misleading his subjects. He's bad. We've never seen so much false news spread by the media the past two years.
Like i said, MU82
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 30, 2019, 09:53:50 AM
Like i said, MU82
Yep ... like Sacar, I'm the worst ...
by far.
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 30, 2019, 12:30:19 AM
The young man is a student at Seton Hall.
Maybe he was, but he's done play-by-play for FS1 on at least one Big East game this year.
From what I heard, he was fine.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 30, 2019, 08:17:10 AM
We've never seen so much false news spread by the media the past two years.
Speaking of fake news ...
quality man on the street work by Fanta
as noted, stay until the very end.
https://twitter.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/948950648418111488
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 30, 2019, 09:53:50 AM
Like i said, MU82
Take off the tinfoil hat and give it up already. Im tired of coming to threads to see your incessant off topic bickering ruining what are generally nice debates. Quit devolving the conversation, act like an adult and move the f*ck on.
Quote from: MU82 on January 29, 2019, 09:43:20 PM
Of course not. Are all dentists paragons of society?
Thank goodness for the free press, the allies of the people.
O, eye cee, hey?