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Quote from: mikekinsellaMVP on January 29, 2019, 09:42:37 AM
Those were Freshman of the Year winners.

Oh I thought that's what he was talking about.  His poor grammar and spelling confuse me.  Thanks.
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wade_county37

Obviously it was a tongue-in-cheek comment that Markus has it locked up. However, he still has the best chance out of all the other guys even if Marquette finishes behind Villanova. Just don't fall behind St. John's.

Daniel

Congrats to Joey!  That is awesome!   Let's go for a sweep - three in a row!

drewm88

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts.


QuoteClassic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way.




QuoteThe jim acosta of scoop.


MUBigDance

FYI, looked back on BEFOW
* JH 4, Reeves 3, Akinjo 2 so far
* didnt realize GT had 3 decent freshmen

11/12 Reeves PR
11/19 Akinjo GT
11/26 Reeves
12/3 Reeves
12/10 JH
12/18 Zergarowski CR
12/23 McClung GT
1/1 LeBlanc GT
1/7 JH
1/14 Akinjo
1/21 JH
1/28 JH

MU82

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts.  Shamorie, booth n marcus have nothing locked up.  The next 6 weeks will go along way in determining who ultimately wins.  And numbers aside it will most likely go to a player on the team that wins the BE title.  Additionally, with all the talk of Shamorie and Markus, Booth has been playing at an incredible level,  shooting a really nice percentage, playing outstanding defense, and has a great assist to tyrnover ratio.
Classic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way.  The jim acosta of scoop.

As usual, here's what happened:

You throw something silly out there as an absolute, "I'm right and everybody else is wrong" opinion disguised as fact:

Booth if anyone has it locked up.

Then you get called out on your dopiness by several Scoopers, including me.

Then, realizing you were wrong but not willing to admit it, you attack those who point out you were wrong while trying to explain you really meant something other than your first shoot-from-the-hip post. Just like your past posts ripping Sacar and Luke. Lather, rinse, repeat.

You cap it off with your ignorant attack on journalists, as if that has anything to do with this conversation at all.
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Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 29, 2019, 09:25:55 AM

Recent winners include Billy Garrett, Angel Delgado and Henry Ellenson.  All three came from teams with losing records in conference. 

So I don't think standings matter anywhere close as much as you think it does.

We r actually talking about BE POY, plz attempt to keep up.  Markus, shamorie , n booth are not eligible.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: oldwarrior81 on January 29, 2019, 09:35:14 AM
The past few BigEast POY:
Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, Kris Dunn, Ryan Arcidiacono, Doug McDermott, Otto Porter, Jae Crowder

all from teams with winning records in conference

And most from the conf. Champion
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 11:34:34 AM
We r actually talking about BE POY, plz attempt to keep up.  Markus, shamorie , n booth are not eligible.

In the "Joey Repeats As Big East Freshman of the Week" thread - try to keep up.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: wade_county37 on January 29, 2019, 09:55:08 AM
Obviously it was a tongue-in-cheek comment that Markus has it locked up. However, he still has the best chance out of all the other guys even if Marquette finishes behind Villanova. Just don't fall behind St. John's.

With Markuss powerful numbers, if Mu stays close to Villanova he has a chance.  If mu win BE its his.  If nova wins BE by more than a game or two i feel it will go to booth, JMHO
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: MU82 on January 29, 2019, 11:30:16 AM
As usual, here's what happened:

You throw something silly out there as an absolute, "I'm right and everybody else is wrong" opinion disguised as fact:

Booth if anyone has it locked up.

Then you get called out on your dopiness by several Scoopers, including me.

Then, realizing you were wrong but not willing to admit it, you attack those who point out you were wrong while trying to explain you really meant something other than your first shoot-from-the-hip post. Just like your past posts ripping Sacar and Luke. Lather, rinse, repeat.

You cap it off with your ignorant attack on journalists, as if that has anything to do with this conversation at all.

The booth comment was as silly as the previous one that Markus had it locked up.  U cant see that because u choose not to, its ok, i know thats who u are.  A poor trait we see in many journalists today.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Pakuni

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 11:35:47 AM
And most from the conf. Champion

Last 10 POYs and whether their team was regular season championship:

Brunson - No
Hart - Yes
Dunn/Arcidiacono - No/Yes
McDermott - No
Porter  - No
Crowder - No
Ben Hansbrough - No
Wes Johnson - Yes
Thabeet/Blair - No/No
Harangody - No


muwarrior69

Quote from: MomofMUltiples on January 28, 2019, 12:47:09 PM
Absolutely great for Joey, the 2018-19 BE Freshman of the Year.

However, the Big East apparently has become as used to Markus' excellence as Scoop has, because he failed to winBEPOW this week despite averaging 27 ppg and 6.4 apg this week - instead it went to Tayshon Alexander with 22.5/2.5

I still think A.J. Reeves from Providence will be Freshman of the year in the Big East despite being out all this time. The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Last 10 POYs and whether their team was regular season championship:

Brunson - No
Hart - Yes
Dunn/Arcidiacono - No/Yes
McDermott - No
Porter  - No
Crowder - No
Ben Hansbrough - No
Wes Johnson - Yes
Thabeet/Blair - No/No
Harangody - No

Are you really using facts in a discussion with MSK?  You know he throws those out the window.

As for Beast Freshman of the year, I think Joey is making a vey strong case.  Reeves hurt his chances with the amount of time off he had because of the injury, and if Gtown gets on a roll, McClung and Akinjo will likely steal votes from each other.  What other candidates are out there?  Duke hasn't put up great numbers, Bey has been solid but not great either.  Zegarowski?
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Pakuni

Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 29, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
I still think A.J. Reeves from Providence will be Freshman of the year in the Big East despite being out all this time. The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.

Five of the last 10 BE newcomers of the year have come from Midwestern schools (Lance Stephenson, Cleveland Melvin, Billy Garret Jr., Henry Ellenson and Justin Patton), so I wouldn't say they all go to the East Coast schools.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 29, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
I still think A.J. Reeves from Providence will be Freshman of the year in the Big East despite being out all this time. The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.

Dont disagree but some coaches will not even face Reeves, kinda hard for them to vote for them under those conditions.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 12:14:01 PM
Dont disagree but some coaches will not even face Reeves, kinda hard for them to vote for them under those conditions.

Reeves is back, so he'll face every team at least once.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

barfolomew

Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 29, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.

I wouldn't say that; but I do think that the coaches try to "spread the wealth", so if, say, a coach were to vote for Markus as POY, I think that would make him less likely to vote for Joey as FOY.

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MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Last 10 POYs and whether their team was regular season championship:

Brunson - No
Hart - Yes
Dunn/Arcidiacono - No/Yes
McDermott - No
Porter  - No
Crowder - No
Ben Hansbrough - No
Wes Johnson - Yes
Thabeet/Blair - No/No
Harangody - No

Some are allergic to facts, Pakuni. Nice job.
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Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 29, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
I still think A.J. Reeves from Providence will be Freshman of the year in the Big East despite being out all this time. The awards generally go to all the East coast schools in the league. Hope I'm wrong.

Since the reformation, the Big East Freshman of the Year Award has gone to:

Billy Garrett Jr (DePaul)
Angel Delgado (Seton Hall)
Henry Ellenson (Marquette)
Justin Patton (Creighton)
Omari Spellman (Villanova)

So 3/5 have gone to Midwest schools.

The POY award has been a little more titled toward East coast schools since the reformation, 4/5 going to east coast schools, including a year where two east coast schools had co-POYers so 5/6 in a way. But with those award going to Kris Dunn (x2), Josh Hart, and Jalen Brunson, I don't think this come from East Coast bias so much as they were the actual best players in the conference that year. The only one I would maybe question is Ryan Arcidiacano of Nova...but he was co-POY with Dunn.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Herman Cain

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 29, 2019, 09:16:15 AM
My comment was to demonstrate the absurdity of the previous posts.  Shamorie, booth n marcus have nothing locked up.  The next 6 weeks will go along way in determining who ultimately wins.  And numbers aside it will most likely go to a player on the team that wins the BE title.  Additionally, with all the talk of Shamorie and Markus, Booth has been playing at an incredible level,  shooting a really nice percentage, playing outstanding defense, and has a great assist to tyrnover ratio.
Classic overreaction by the journalist, cant get out if his own way.  The jim acosta of scoop.
I agree with this analysis.
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NickelDimer

Love me some Acosta. He refuses to be intimidated and demands the truth. Throwing that out there since we're apparantly talking about him
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TSmith34, Inc.

Dear Mods:

Is Sand Knut and Texas Western/Gus Ganakus/MUFINY/Herm/GodKnowsHowManyOtherSockPuppets assininery enough to shut down the thread?

'Cause if not, I could post John Cleese's "Ode to Hannity".
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MU82

I like how clueless MSK thinks he's insulting me by calling me a journalist.

Very proud to be associated with that profession, which is more important now than ever. Reporters have been American heroes these last 2+ years.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

milwaukee ex-pat

Quote from: Pakuni on January 29, 2019, 11:43:21 AM
Last 10 POYs and whether their team was regular season championship:

Brunson - No
Hart - Yes
Dunn/Arcidiacono - No/Yes
McDermott - No
Porter  - No
Crowder - No
Ben Hansbrough - No
Wes Johnson - Yes
Thabeet/Blair - No/No
Harangody - No

MU was reg season champ when Crowder was BEPOY iirc..

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