He is due for an SOTG game. Only starter not in the tally!
A lot of solid games, no transcendent games. And, it always seems he makes enough freshman plays to hurt his chances.
Brings up a great question.
Will we see any new names on the SOTG list?
Thrilled with Joey's playing - needs to clean up some pssses and dribbling to the hoop so he can reduce his turnovers. Otherwise wow what a freshman!
Joey is one of the best freshman we've ever had at Marquette. Although he hasn't won sotg he has made a difference in most of our games. I have no doubt he could score 30+ in any given game like he did in high school, if we needed him to.
Quote from: pbiflyer on January 25, 2019, 07:27:01 PM
Brings up a great question.
Will we see any new names on the SOTG list?
Dunks belongs on that list.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on January 25, 2019, 08:27:00 PM
Joey is one of the best freshman we've ever had at Marquette. Although he hasn't won sotg he has made a difference in most of our games. I have no doubt he could score 30+ in any given game like he did in high school, if we needed him to.
Joey is certainly one of the best (10?) freshmen to play at MU in the last 40 years. Love his feel for the game. But he's playing on a really good, really experienced team. SOTG nods are hard to come by.
Finally a SOTG?
Yes it's Joey time, I sent him a habanero salsa!
Markus
30+ on the road. Shot well n didnt have turnovers.
Markus all day. This doesnt dimish tge others, just Markus was really good today
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 26, 2019, 03:23:04 PM
Markus
30+ on the road. Shot well n didnt have turnovers.
Markus all day. This doesnt dimish tge others, just Markus was really good today
Do you not believe in proofreading your own posts?
Is Joey Hauser really that far off from Ellenson as a freshman talent-wise?
Joey is on a much, much better team and doesn't have to contribute nearly as much -- doesn't have the opportunity to do so because there are so many other really good players.
I would pick Joey over Ellenson every time because he is a much better shooter, defender, passer and team player than H. Joey is a dominant winner.
Quote from: WarriorHal on January 26, 2019, 03:49:37 PM
Is Joey Hauser really that far off from Ellenson as a freshman talent-wise?
Joey is on a much, much better team and doesn't have to contribute nearly as much -- doesn't have the opportunity to do so because there are so many other really good players.
I was gonna start a thread on this, but figured it would turn into an argument.
They are pretty close as I see it.
Joey is the better shooter and has a little better court awareness. Henry was a better rebounder and a slightly better defender. Both are solid ball handlers and passers.
We can't use numbers when comparing these two cuz Henry played on a crap team and was always the #1 option. Joey is the 3rd option on this team.
Jockey
If Joey was #1 option I think he would be putting up very big numbers. Hard to compare the two, but Joey has some big time talent. He makes some NBA type moves look easy. He is better than I expected, and I expected him to be really good.
Quote from: Goose on January 26, 2019, 05:34:32 PM
Jockey
If Joey was #1 option I think he would be putting up very big numbers. Hard to compare the two, but Joey has some big time talent. He makes some NBA type moves look easy. He is better than I expected, and I expected him to be really good.
Agreed. I expected Joey to be good, but had no idea what to expect from him as a freshman. We heard so much about Bailey, and expected to have Morrow, Cain, and to an extent Elliott competing for those minutes, so I wasn't sure if Joey would be a 15 mpg guy or 22 mpg guy. I certainly didn't expect him to grow into the third cog in a new Big Three by January while averaging close to 30 mpg.
Brew
Biggest surprise to me this year is the guys not making an impact. My moderate optimism going into the season was based off who I was afraid was going to get big minutes. Honestly, Theo has completely shocked me and Wojo not playing guys I expected him to play has shocked me. I give Wojo a ton of credit of playing the right guys.
Back to Joey, I figured he would be a starter and contributor. I did not know exactly how polished and advanced of a player he really is. This kid is the real deal and in a big way.
Quote from: WarriorHal on January 26, 2019, 03:49:37 PM
Is Joey Hauser really that far off from Ellenson as a freshman talent-wise?
Joey is on a much, much better team and doesn't have to contribute nearly as much -- doesn't have the opportunity to do so because there are so many other really good players.
Joey has been a much better shooter than Ellenson was as a freshman. Ellenson has him beat just about everywhere else.
Biggest difference between the two is that Ellenson was head and shoulders the best guy on a bad team whereas Joey is the 3rd best guy on a very good team.
Just as Markus benefited from all the good offensive players we had in 2016-17, and Sam benefited from having Rowsey and Markus on the court last season, I believe Joey is helped significantly by being on the court with Sam and Markus.
He doesn't have to carry the load, and that's good. Early in the season, he was scoring more on post moves but he's been scouted, plus he's going against better competition, and those moves have been less successful in the conference season. Conversely, he is getting a lot of wide-open perimeter looks due to the attention being paid to Markus and Sam.
And that's not to take anything away from Joey -- who is adroitly moving to the open spots to receive passes and who is making the shots.
Plus, it's not often that a freshman goes to the FT line in the final minute of a 1-possession game and I'm like, "No sweat, this'll be 2 points." He is what us oldsters would call "a cool customer."
I said a few weeks back that I think Joey will be a successful NBA player who very well might leave MU before his eligibility is up. But I'm not sure I'm quite ready to anoint him as a guy who can carry a BEast contender game-in and game-out, as some others have.
Put it this way: I'm glad we don't have to find out!
Quote from: MU82 on January 26, 2019, 06:59:28 PM
And that's not to take anything away from Joey -- who is adroitly moving to the open spots to receive passes and who is making the shots.
First time seeing someone use adroitly in a sentence on a message board. Well done.
MU82
Joey making the open shots is great and he has gotten some looks because of Sam and Howard being in the court. It is everything else he does that impresses me. Hitting 25 footers is great, but his intangibles are very advanced for a kid his age. Bo was the smartest, and probably best, freshmen ever to play at MU and Joey might be on same level of ball IQ as Bo.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 25, 2019, 03:11:36 PM
He is due for an SOTG game. Only starter not in the tally!
It is a pretty big award. He needs to get some honorable mention and also get robbed a couple of times and then he will start to get one. I think that is the pecking order the selection committee works through.
I remember about a month ago when reporters questioned Wojo about Joey talent and he began to say he's a good player. The reporter started to ask another But Wojo said I'm not finished Joey is a Really, Really good player.
Quote from: forgetful on January 26, 2019, 07:17:53 PM
First time seeing someone use adroitly in a sentence on a message board. Well done.
And he did it very adroitly to boot
Eye once saw a droit stagger outta the Ardmore, hey?
Listening to Wojo's press conference, it sounds like he wants more consistency from Joey, on and off the court.
Quote from: Jockey on January 26, 2019, 05:24:52 PM
I was gonna start a thread on this, but figured it would turn into an argument.
They are pretty close as I see it.
Joey is the better shooter and has a little better court awareness. Henry was a better rebounder and a slightly better defender. Both are solid ball handlers and passers.
We can't use numbers when comparing these two cuz Henry played on a crap team and was always the #1 option. Joey is the 3rd option on this team.
Henry would also be the 3rd option on this team.
Quote from: lawdog77 on January 26, 2019, 07:47:38 PM
Listening to Wojo's press conference, it sounds like he wants more consistency from Joey, on and off the court.
That is what I thought I heard.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 26, 2019, 05:52:20 PM
Joey has been a much better shooter than Ellenson was as a freshman. Ellenson has him beat just about everywhere else.
Biggest difference between the two is that Ellenson was head and shoulders the best guy on a bad team whereas Joey is the 3rd best guy on a very good team.
Court awareness and basketball sense he has him beat too. That doesn't mean Ellenson was bad in that department. The Hausers are just in a league of their own in that category
Quote from: lawdog77 on January 26, 2019, 07:47:38 PM
Listening to Wojo's press conference, it sounds like he wants more consistency from Joey, on and off the court.
Agreed, it was a challenge to Joey to reach his extremely high upside potential. I got the impression that perhaps Joey perhaps isn't as focused or serious as Sam or Markus perhaps.
Quote from: Goose on January 26, 2019, 07:26:52 PM
MU82
Joey making the open shots is great and he has gotten some looks because of Sam and Howard being in the court. It is everything else he does that impresses me. Hitting 25 footers is great, but his intangibles are very advanced for a kid his age. Bo was the smartest, and probably best, freshmen ever to play at MU and Joey might be on same level of ball IQ as Bo.
And he passes well too.
Quote from: Goose on January 26, 2019, 05:48:01 PM
Brew
Biggest surprise to me this year is the guys not making an impact. My moderate optimism going into the season was based off who I was afraid was going to get big minutes. Honestly, Theo has completely shocked me and Wojo not playing guys I expected him to play has shocked me. I give Wojo a ton of credit of playing the right guys.
Back to Joey, I figured he would be a starter and contributor. I did not know exactly how polished and advanced of a player he really is. This kid is the real deal and in a big way.
I expected a leap from Cain. He has athleticism that no one else really does. I also thought Ed and Joe would make bigger impacts. Wojo has definitely juggled the roster well. Incredible to think we should have roughly the same team next year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2019, 10:03:38 PM
I expected a leap from Cain. He has athleticism that no one else really does. I also thought Ed and Joe would make bigger impacts. Wojo has definitely juggled the roster well. Incredible to think we should have roughly the same team next year.
Better with Koby
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 26, 2019, 10:05:31 PM
Better with Koby
We'll see. I remember hearing the same about Ed and numerous others before (Dan Fitzgerald). I'm more excited for the known quantities.
Quote from: Goose on January 26, 2019, 07:26:52 PM
MU82
Joey making the open shots is great and he has gotten some looks because of Sam and Howard being in the court. It is everything else he does that impresses me. Hitting 25 footers is great, but his intangibles are very advanced for a kid his age. Bo was the smartest, and probably best, freshmen ever to play at MU and Joey might be on same level of ball IQ as Bo.
Perhaps. I'm a big Joey fan. Brings a ton to the table. Does seem to disappear occasionally, commit the odd dumb foul and throw a silly or lazy pass or two per game. Not too often, because he is a superb player with the potential to be even better, but enough to remind us, "Well, I am a kid, after all."
Excited about his future -- both for the rest of this season, and beyond.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on January 26, 2019, 08:00:15 PM
Court awareness and basketball sense he has him beat too. That doesn't mean Ellenson was bad in that department. The Hausers are just in a league of their own in that category
Dat's cuz dey practiced so much on der driveway and such, aina?
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on January 26, 2019, 08:00:15 PM
Court awareness and basketball sense he has him beat too. That doesn't mean Ellenson was bad in that department. The Hausers are just in a league of their own in that category
That's fair. I'd definitely give Joey a significant edge in basketball IQ
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 26, 2019, 08:38:47 PM
Agreed, it was a challenge to Joey to reach his extremely high upside potential. I got the impression that perhaps Joey perhaps isn't as focused or serious as Sam or Markus perhaps.
Yes—and from those comments, I believe Wojo wasn't talking about next year. He wants it now.
Quote from: tower912 on January 26, 2019, 07:52:29 PM
That is what I thought I heard.
Freshmen :-\
Going through the learning process just like the other guys had to. He's going to be a great player the next couple years.
Joey was huge tonight... especially in the first half with three made threes. He's better at this point than I expected. Most freshman hit a slump part way through a long season and he seems to be getting better as the season goes on
It is interesting that he did not play last year....
He has played well, will he hit a wall or is staying fresh from not playing last year? His confidence is growing!
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 26, 2019, 10:05:31 PM
Better with Koby
And Greg! We go from a thin backcourt to a loaded backcourt next season.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 26, 2019, 10:16:15 PM
We'll see. I remember hearing the same about Ed and numerous others before (Dan Fitzgerald). I'm more excited for the known quantities.
Kobe will be a big help next year.
Adding a ball handler that can get buckets will be huge.