According to Evan Daniels. We are on the board for 2020! Welcome to the family Mr. Torrence! Huge early pickup
Per Evan Daniels on FS1
Per live announcement on FS1
Another big guard with skills. Awesome.
Symir
Markus
For your viewing pleasure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGc3DIHFtcI&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1anXPjU1k&t=1s
Welcome!
I just wanted a 4th straight thread.
Whoo-hoo!
Love this pickup. Very well rounded player.
Does Symir stay 2020 or move to 2019?
Great get! Very very excited about Symir and the game he is bringing.
Let's lock it up with JJ and Strawther now!
No mention of 2019 as of yet.
Congrats to the entire staff but especially Coach Killings for his first big win on the recruiting front.
Impressive recruiting win for the staff!
Junior four-star guard Symir Torrence verbally committed to Steve Wojciechowski, Marquette on Sunday, he tells 247Sports.
"Once I did my official visit, I just fell in love with the whole community and just the whole place," Torrence said. "Just the way everybody treats everybody. It's just a thing, where everybody loves getting together. I loved bonding with the players, I can't wait to get to know them more once I get to Marquette."
"That was one of the reasons and another would be because of the coaching staff. Coach Wojo really gave me the idea that he's going to push me and wants me to be the best that I can be and wants me to reach my dreams someday."
Torrence took an official visit to Marquette's campus on Oct. 29. Torrence also took visits to his other two finalists – Butler and Cincinnati. Torrence said he knew going into the visit that Marquette could be the place for him.
"Just the bond that I have with the assistant coach [Dwayne Killings]," he said when pressed about the visit. "Coming into the visit, I just knew and me and my mom talked about it and we knew that it was going to be something special."
"They just said I was something special and really wanted to work with me," he added.
Torrence, a 6-foot-3 guard out of Saxtons River (Vt.) Vermont Academy, also cited Steve Wojcieshowski's history as a point guard in his reasoning to commit to Marquette.
"The fact that he just came from a good program, he knows a lot," Torrence said. "He knows the game very well. He was also a point guard, so just learning from a head coach that's a point guard was a big factor in wanting to go to Marquette."
"I'm a point guard, I'm a pass first point guard and that's another reason why I wanted to go to Marquette, because I can do those things," he said. "Coach Wojo even said he can make me into a better point guard, and that's what I love."
Torrence is currently ranked as the No. 51 overall prosect and the No. 5 combination guard in the 247Sports Composite Rankings
2020? Dude looks like he's 24. In any event, I really don't care how old he is, but he looks like a leader with some great floor sense. He looks ready right now
Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
Another big guard with skills. Awesome.
Great pickup. McEwen, Elliott, Torrence and Akanno for 2020 backcourt.
Now have to shore up front court, no Sam, Morrow, Sacar and Theo will be senior. Lots of offers out there with playing time. Need to continue with BE success this year to maybe get some of the highly ranked recruits.
Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on January 06, 2019, 02:26:07 PM
Junior four-star guard Symir Torrence verbally committed to Steve Wojciechowski, Marquette on Sunday, he tells 247Sports.
"Once I did my official visit, I just fell in love with the whole community and just the whole place," Torrence said. "Just the way everybody treats everybody. It's just a thing, where everybody loves getting together. I loved bonding with the players, I can't wait to get to know them more once I get to Marquette."
"That was one of the reasons and another would be because of the coaching staff. Coach Wojo really gave me the idea that he's going to push me and wants me to be the best that I can be and wants me to reach my dreams someday."
Torrence took an official visit to Marquette's campus on Oct. 29. Torrence also took visits to his other two finalists – Butler and Cincinnati. Torrence said he knew going into the visit that Marquette could be the place for him.
"Just the bond that I have with the assistant coach [Dwayne Killings]," he said when pressed about the visit. "Coming into the visit, I just knew and me and my mom talked about it and we knew that it was going to be something special."
"They just said I was something special and really wanted to work with me," he added.
Torrence, a 6-foot-3 guard out of Saxtons River (Vt.) Vermont Academy, also cited Steve Wojcieshowski's history as a point guard in his reasoning to commit to Marquette.
Love it. Wojo is building something special here. Getting high caliber recruits that buy in. It can only get better the more success we have on the court.
23 points 6 rebounds and 43% from 3.....
https://www.zagsblog.com/2019/01/06/symir-torrence-to-marquette/
I like this kid, has a good chance to be a dude at MU.
This is nicely done
https://twitter.com/egb_st4/status/1082010779719737345?s=21
Sounds like Wojo is giving him some time to decide if wants to be a 2019 or 2020.
Lots of praise for his defense, toughness and leadership abilities
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/top-50-junior-symir-torrence-headed-to-the-big-east
Welcome, Symir!
Guards' game
Reading between the lines he might be thinking 2019 if Markus leaves or 2020 if he stays......either way glad to have him.
https://www.prepcircuit.com/news_article/show/982503
"He has incredible basketball IQ and pair that with his gifted motor, and you have one of the best defensive players in all of high school basketball," Popp said. "On the offensive end, Symir gives you a shot maker, a playmaker, and an overall scorer. He is stellar with advancing the basketball in transition, he is phenomenal in the pick-and-roll, and he is even effective in the low post. Above all, he is a guy that other players want to play with. Talented players and coaches are attracted to his personality, disposition and ability to make everyone around him better."
Well, I'm sold.
Quote from: MuMark on January 06, 2019, 02:54:01 PM
Reading between the lines he might be thinking 2019 if Markus leaves or 2020 if he stays......either way glad to have him.
https://www.prepcircuit.com/news_article/show/982503
I think it's moreso Wojo saying look man we'll take you next season, but minutes are most likely going to be very hard to come by and you need to be on board for that.
Wojo only gets the easy 4 star combo guard recruits.
An article from earlier in the week quoted him as deciding on 2019 after Vermont's season is done. I'd really like to see him next year unless there's a big fish on the grad transfer market
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 06, 2019, 02:57:55 PM
An article from earlier in the week quoted him as deciding on 2019 after Vermont's season is done. I'd really like to see him next year unless there's a big fish on the grad transfer market
I feel the same. Get him here as fast as possible as a lot can happen between now and 2020.
Quote from: real chili 83 on January 06, 2019, 02:57:07 PM
Wojo only gets the easy 4 star combo guard recruits.
That's always been my complaint. ;-)
Quote from: MuMark on January 06, 2019, 02:25:11 PM
No mention of 2019 as of yet.
Congrats to the entire staff but especially Coach Killings for his first big win on the recruiting front.
Already an upgrade over Carawell!
Excited about this commit. Welcome, Symir!
Quote from: Tha Hound on January 06, 2019, 02:55:18 PM
"He has incredible basketball IQ and pair that with his gifted motor, and you have one of the best defensive players in all of high school basketball," Popp said. "On the offensive end, Symir gives you a shot maker, a playmaker, and an overall scorer. He is stellar with advancing the basketball in transition, he is phenomenal in the pick-and-roll, and he is even effective in the low post. Above all, he is a guy that other players want to play with. Talented players and coaches are attracted to his personality, disposition and ability to make everyone around him better."
Well, I'm sold.
uhhhhhh... yeah this is pretty much exactly what I want to hear out of a commit. great get!
Welcome!
Quote from: MuMark on January 06, 2019, 02:48:20 PM
Lots of praise for his defense, toughness and leadership abilities
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/top-50-junior-symir-torrence-headed-to-the-big-east
The type of tough player we have been needing for quite some time. Glad we are going back to the old type of MU players.
Big get!
Welcome to Warrior Nation!
Quote from: GB Warrior on January 06, 2019, 02:57:55 PM
An article from earlier in the week quoted him as deciding on 2019 after Vermont's season is done. I'd really like to see him next year unless there's a big fish on the grad transfer market
Totally agree, get him in the program ASAP
Good get - I like this.
Welcome to MU, Samir! Great to see another long, athletic guard join the program.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on January 06, 2019, 03:22:03 PM
Totally agree, get him in the program ASAP
Can we have him come now? Give him the Joey Hauser timeline
S-y-m-i-r
Figure I'll try to nip this one in the bud rather than wait four years. Hope it helps!
Quote from: wadesworld on January 06, 2019, 03:34:39 PM
S-y-m-i-r
Figure I'll try to nip this one in the bud rather than wait four years. Hope it helps!
My autocorrect already making life miserable.
Now let's go get Julian Strawther for 2020 too
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 06, 2019, 03:24:26 PM
Can we have him come now? Give him the Joey Hauser timeline
I think he might want to finish his high school season first.......
Love it, welcome Symir.
Excellent research report on Symir from the local Syracuse paper.
https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2019/01/syracuse-native-symir-torrence-a-class-of-2020-guard-picks-a-college.html
Cited the fact that MU guards were upperclassmen was attractive. So while he could reclassify, he may stick with the 2020 timeline .
From an MU standpoint would be good to get him signed up this spring. His stock is going to rise significantly if he stays another year in high school.
Two great wins in one day ... and this was the more important one!
Ring out ahoya, Symir!
I'm just amazed that a 4-star, top-50-ish player would choose Marquette even though not a single Scooper changed his/her screen name!
Welcome to Marquette, Symir!
Another great pickup by Wojo and staff.
Good to see Symir getting torrents of welcoming respect.
Welcome to MU Symir!
Quote from: wadesworld on January 06, 2019, 03:34:39 PM
S-y-m-i-r
Figure I'll try to nip this one in the bud rather than wait four years. Hope it helps!
A gallant effort, but I fear it will be futile.
Bet we'll see plenty of autocorrect Seymours.
Quote from: Marcus92 on January 06, 2019, 03:23:11 PM
Welcome to MU, Samir! Great to see another long, athletic guard join the program.
Awesome! Day 1.
Welcome to your new home Symir! Glad to have you in the family.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 06, 2019, 02:27:18 PM
2020? Dude looks like he's 24. In any event, I really don't care how old he is, but he looks like a leader with some great floor sense. He looks ready right now
He's 17.
Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2019, 04:55:16 PM
Good to see Symir getting torrents of welcoming respect.
Symir will symear the the competition.
Torrence will symear the competition.
Need to keep Ben's page views up. He is doing a good job.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/2019/01/06/marquette-gets-commitment-2020-point-guard-symir-torrence/2496899002/
I don't have a subscription; can you post it?
Just access it in cognito
Quote from: TedBaxter on January 06, 2019, 06:02:25 PM
He's 17.
Then let's hope to god he doesn't reclassify to 2019. I don't think I can take another year of the TV guys saying, "He's so good, and he's only 17!"
Quote from: Research Report on January 06, 2019, 07:11:49 PM
Then let's hope to god he doesn't reclassify to 2019. I don't think I can take another year of the TV guys saying, "He's so good, and he's only 17!"
Well... he would be 18 next season so... not a problem!
No one is asking the hard question. How's his neck?
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 06, 2019, 07:11:02 PM
Just access it in cognito
Da Pontiff does it, everyone else should too, aina.
Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on January 06, 2019, 09:08:28 PM
Da Pontiff does it, everyone else should too, aina.
Zactly.
Great commitment. It will be interesting to see how the MU offense changes after Markus leaves and the new guards take over.
Wojo keeps on getting after it on the recruiting trail. It's refreshing to have these great recruiters at Marquette
Welcome aboard Symir!!! Thanks for choosing Marquette you won't be let down!
This looks like a really good commit. Very excited to see this news yesterday.
Welcome Symir!!!
" I love to be coached hard. I don't want to be babied or anything"
https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/2499258002?__twitter_impression=true
I get the idea that we want him to reclassify to 2019 and get here asap.
But next year we have a logjam in the backcourt .. Markus, Scar, Elliott, McEwen and Akanno.
Doesn't it make more sense for him to come in 2020?
Yes.
Quote from: Tower Tops on January 07, 2019, 11:31:40 PM
I get the idea that we want him to reclassify to 2019 and get here asap.
But next year we have a logjam in the backcourt .. Markus, Scar, Elliott, McEwen and Akanno.
Doesn't it make more sense for him to come in 2020?
I agree with this, but for different reasons. As successful as Markus was his Freshman year, I think he was the exception more than the rule. I was watching the I4 Mich game over the weekend, and they were talking about Michigan's good Freshman, and how he could have joined the team last year, but felt that he wasn't ready, so he spent another year prep before arriving on campus. Couldn't Dexter technically already be here (if we had a spot) but got a chance to go prep? It's the same thought process behind any non medical redshirt. I would gladly trade the production that a 17 year old Freshman gives us, vs what a 22 year old Senior can.
Dexter Akanno was going to prep school because he had just one D-1 scholarship from a low level school. He was hoping extra time & exposure would lead to more offers. It worked.
Symir Torrence can weigh the pros and cons. 2019, be part of a good team, get acclimated to the system, start heading to his goal of making the NBA a year earlier. 2020, easier road to immediate playing time as a frosh and the chance to enjoy another year playing at Vermont Academy.
Whatever Symir decides, I'm fine with it. Very excited about seeing him play for MU!
In a perfect world I would have Symir reclassify and redshirt his freshman year. I think unless you have an odd situation like Joey's, that is a pretty tough sell. Given that, I'd rather have him come in 2020.
It's pretty much a guarantee that 23 year old Torrence will be better than 18 year old Torrence. Why trade a year of 23 year old Torrence for a year of 18 year old Torrence? Especially when the team that 18 year old Torrence will be joining looks pretty deep at his position?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 08, 2019, 09:01:24 AM
In a perfect world I would have Symir reclassify and redshirt his freshman year. I think unless you have an odd situation like Joey's, that is a pretty tough sell. Given that, I'd rather have him come in 2020.
Otoh, he has already done a transfer to Vermont Academy to further his basketball situation. I could see him reclassifying. As for redshirting, maybe not.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 08, 2019, 09:01:24 AM
In a perfect world I would have Symir reclassify and redshirt his freshman year. I think unless you have an odd situation like Joey's, that is a pretty tough sell. Given that, I'd rather have him come in 2020.
It's pretty much a guarantee that 23 year old Torrence will be better than 18 year old Torrence. Why trade a year of 23 year old Torrence for a year of 18 year old Torrence? Especially when the team that 18 year old Torrence will be joining looks pretty deep at his position?
I'd venture to guess not too many kids who (justifiably) see themselves as high level athletes want to be playing for free in college when they're 23 years old.
Quote from: Pakuni on January 08, 2019, 09:21:26 AM
I'd venture to guess not too many kids who (justifiably) see themselves as high level athletes want to be playing for free in college when they're 23 years old.
Isn't the entire premise of the Wisconsin Rodents club to build out a squad of 23-year old juniors?
EDIT: Never mind, I see you said "high level athletes".
Quote from: Pakuni on January 08, 2019, 09:21:26 AM
I'd venture to guess not too many kids who (justifiably) see themselves as high level athletes want to be playing for free in college when they're 23 years old.
Well almost all of them see themselves as high level athletes. And most of them play all four years in college. In Symir's case he would be a 23 year old senior if he stays in the 2020 class.
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 08, 2019, 09:43:03 AM
Isn't the entire premise of the Wisconsin Rodents club to build out a squad of 23-year old juniors?
EDIT: Never mind, I see you said "high level athletes".
Got a nice chuckle out of this.
In the long run, will Symir be a better player and fir for MU then Nico Mannion would have been?
Quote from: gowojo on January 08, 2019, 11:28:42 AM
In the long run, will Symir be a better player and fir for MU then Nico Mannion would have been?
Nobody can know this now.
Mannion is better now but will likely be one and done....but maybe not.
Symir looks like a very good prospect who will be around for multiple seasons......but until he performs at this level you can't be sure.
At the moment, there's no reason to think we couldn't have had both Mannion and Torrence.
Thought some of you might find this 8 page thread from the Syracuse board on ST interesting.....goes back 2 years
https://syracusefan.com/threads/pg-symir-torrence-ny-vermont-academy-to-marquette.115065/
Quote from: MuMark on January 08, 2019, 02:58:59 PM
Thought some of you might find this 8 page thread from the Syracuse board on ST interesting.....goes back 2 years
https://syracusefan.com/threads/pg-symir-torrence-ny-vermont-academy-to-marquette.115065/
Thanks, start's to look Better & Better.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 08, 2019, 11:36:29 AM
At the moment, there's no reason to think we couldn't have had both Mannion and Torrence.
Starting to miss Nico already. Sad trombone. :(
Don't you worry about Nico. He's going to be real happy playing in that track meet offense Sean Miller keeps selling his point guards.
Honestly, how does he keep selling that garbage? 10 years in and I don't think they've had a team in the top 100 in possessions/game, yet every recruit talks about how coach "wants to play up-tempo this year." For Nico's sake, hopefully year 11 is finally the year he delivers. My guess is he'll need to catch highlights of Marcus to see what offensive freedom really looks like.
Quote from: MuMark on January 08, 2019, 02:58:59 PM
Thought some of you might find this 8 page thread from the Syracuse board on ST interesting.....goes back 2 years
https://syracusefan.com/threads/pg-symir-torrence-ny-vermont-academy-to-marquette.115065/
Wow—those SU fans really think highly of themselves. Paraphrasing...
"Middle of the ACC> 3rd tier teams."
"We can still get him."
"Fake Big East"
"Marquette loves NY kids"
I'd rather come off the bench for two years and start as a Junior at Syracuse, UNC, Kansas, etc. than start right away at 3rd tier schools.
I don't get this at all. He didn't even fully explore all the schools yet and he made a decision? This smells like Tyus Battle all over again I don't think this will be over yet but I have no info just going by what I think
When SU was on him, their fan base compared him to D Wade.
Great stuff thanks MuMark.
Quote from: MuMark on January 08, 2019, 02:58:59 PM
Thought some of you might find this 8 page thread from the Syracuse board on ST interesting.....goes back 2 years
https://syracusefan.com/threads/pg-symir-torrence-ny-vermont-academy-to-marquette.115065/
Thanks for posting this. Was a classic recruiting thread. At first there were doubters, then as he started to blow up the love flowed, confidence that the local kid would stay him, then when the decision went against them oh well next man up. Of course a few in denial who think a de-commit could be in store as well.
Quote from: Herman Cain on January 08, 2019, 06:54:53 PM
Thanks for posting this. Was a classic recruiting thread. At first there were doubters, then as he started to blow up the love flowed, confidence that the local kid would stay him, then when the decision went against them oh well next man up. Of course a few in denial who think a de-commit could be in store as well.
At least they haven't said he couldn't qualify academically!
You've always been the caretaker Mr. Torrence.
Quote from: patso on January 08, 2019, 07:56:54 PM
You've always been the caretaker Mr. Torrence.
Well that is eerie!
Quote from: MuMark on January 06, 2019, 02:40:30 PM
This is nicely done
https://twitter.com/egb_st4/status/1082010779719737345?s=21
I got chills at the footage of Bo...weaving our rich history into a very bright future.
Quote from: MuMark on January 06, 2019, 02:40:30 PM
This is nicely done
https://twitter.com/egb_st4/status/1082010779719737345?s=21
Symir's commit-vid already paying subliminal dividends.
The clock clicks down....note Sam, I mean Symir's, position on the floor....eerie buzzer tone....cue Bo through the hoop....Sam is the one dancing most prominently in the locker room....
Lil Baby: "My life was hard, it just had to be..watch me turn my dreams to reality..."
https://twitter.com/prepcircuit/status/1093931822214533120?s=21
Quote from: MuMark on February 08, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
https://twitter.com/prepcircuit/status/1093931822214533120?s=21
If someone said Symir had more assists than points, I'd guess 8 or 9 assists. 17 assists?!! Not saying he only gets the easy dishes, but whom is he feeding, Baby Shaq?
Quote from: MuMark on February 08, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
https://twitter.com/prepcircuit/status/1093931822214533120?s=21
Whoa - the kid can dish!
Quote from: NorthernDancerColt on February 08, 2019, 06:59:16 PM
If someone said Symir had more assists than points, I'd guess 8 or 9 assists. 17 assists?!! Not saying he only gets the easy dishes, but whom is he feeding, Baby Shaq?
Torrents of dishes.
https://twitter.com/prepcircuit/status/1094432802949554176?s=21
I'm liking this kid more and more. Is a really cool guy, eh assists good and doesn't afraid of anything.
Previous post of mine might have had incorrect stats......no way to know for sure
https://twitter.com/jakeweingarten/status/1094454154343395328?s=21
Beat goes on
https://twitter.com/prepcircuit/status/1096935487623843841?s=21
Dang he looks good. Been a while since we have had that type of player
Can he sign his NLOI fall 2019?
yes like every other 2020 kid he can sign in the fall.......if he chooses to reclassify he can sign in the spring.
What's the talent level in the league he plays in?
Quote from: Norm on February 16, 2019, 11:50:36 PM
What's the talent level in the league he plays in?
Same league as Brewster Academy, where Deonte Burton played for a bit (and has a string of D1 commits). New Hampton School is in their league too, and has a couple D1 commits every year. Vermont Academy (where Symir is going to school) is in the same boat.
I would consider their competition to be tough for a HS basketball league. Definitely a few bball magnet schools. Brewster is a powerhouse.
https://vimeo.com/324881692
Highlight video but this kid has a really nice Skill set.
Quote from: MuMark on March 17, 2019, 09:28:29 PM
https://vimeo.com/324881692
Highlight video but this kid has a really nice Skill set.
Yeah, it's a highlight video, but man...
Quote from: MuMark on March 17, 2019, 09:28:29 PM
https://vimeo.com/324881692
Highlight video but this kid has a really nice Skill set.
Kid looks like his body is already developed - unlike skinny guys like Elliot & Cain who came in needing work in the weight room.
Quote from: MuMark on March 17, 2019, 09:28:29 PM
https://vimeo.com/324881692
Highlight video but this kid has a really nice Skill set.
Sure does.
Wonder if it's just me, and I don't pretend to know sports medicine...but is Symir putting extra load on his ankles or knees with the manner by which he elevates on his jumper? He shoots from a really wide base, and even bows out his legs a bit on he way up. He doesn't do it on his drives/ rim attacks. Just elevating on the 3ball. I'm definitely nit-picking, but I would just hope he doesn't put extra strain on his body. Is this something Brett Nelson would try to change? Our program seems to emphasize body physics and efficiency, and I just wonder if anyone picked up on it and if it matters at all. Would love to hear someone's thoughts...maybe if his body is just designed that way, they would let it be, as "fixing" it would lead to more load and strain.
The kid looks like an absolute winner, loves to get others involved despite his own skills scoring the rock.
Quote from: Jockey on March 17, 2019, 09:36:43 PM
Kid looks like his body is already developed - unlike skinny guys like Elliot & Cain who came in needing work in the weight room.
I agree. Other than the eccentric way he elevates on his J, he has a strong, efficient way of moving, especially through traffic. BigEast ready.
A skilled Traci Carter.
What ecactly does Big East ready mean?
Quote from: vogue65 on March 18, 2019, 07:23:39 AM
What ecactly does Big East ready mean?
It starts with mastering what you can and cannot say when a BE official runs you from the game for no apparent reason.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 17, 2019, 09:53:20 PM
Nah
Are you hearing he's staying another year in HS? Just trying to read your tea leaves, maybe I'm way over-thinking it