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The ship sinks tonight, but the future is bright.
3 extra games (at least). I'll take it
Premature ejaculation?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 20, 2018, 07:49:19 PM
Premature ejaculation?
Every time I do this we make a come back.... I'm okay with this.
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2018, 07:50:48 PM
Every time I do this we make a come back.... I'm okay with this.
You reversed your own jinx
Quote from: NickelDimer on March 20, 2018, 08:01:54 PM
You reversed your own jinx
I for one, blame the good Dr. Blackheart
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2018, 08:02:59 PM
I for one, blame the good Dr. Blackheart
You should have kept at bleeding the weasel
Top reasons why I am worried about next year
> Woj still sucks at coaching defense, and you can't coach coaching
> No more Andrew Rowsey
> Theo John is terrible and will not develop
> Markus Howard is a volume shooter who has lost his touch
> No athleticism
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Top reasons why I am worried about next year
> Woj still sucks at coaching defense, and you can't coach coaching
> No more Andrew Rowsey
> Theo John is terrible and will not develop
> Markus Howard is a volume shooter who has lost his touch
> No athleticism
Yes. Except very little of this is accurate
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Top reasons why I am worried about next year
> Woj still sucks at coaching defense, and you can't coach coaching
> No more Andrew Rowsey
> Theo John is terrible and will not develop
> Markus Howard is a volume shooter who has lost his touch
> No athleticism
Considering, other than Rowsey leaving, this has no relation to reality, things aren't so bad.
Thank you Team for a fun season. One of most enjoyable in a quite a few years. Shooters are just plain exciting.
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Top reasons why I am worried about next year
> Woj still sucks at coaching defense, and you can't coach coaching
> No more Andrew Rowsey
> Theo John is terrible and will not develop
> Markus Howard is a volume shooter who has lost his touch
> No athleticism
Change your username to straw man.
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Top reasons why I am worried about next year
> Woj still sucks at coaching defense, and you can't coach coaching
> No more Andrew Rowsey
> Theo John is terrible and will not develop
> Markus Howard is a volume shooter who has lost his touch
> No athleticism
O boy.....
Good season?? Wtf am I missing here?? Now the NIT is considered a good season? Apparently expectations have hit rock bottom.
Markus will continue to regress and Joey Hauser will come off his injury a shadow of his former self. These challenges can be managed.
But the weak defense? That's just our culture now.
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:29:59 PM
Markus will continue to regress and Joey Hauser will come off his injury a shadow of his former self. These challenges can be managed.
But the weak defense? That's just our culture now.
Bingo
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:29:59 PM
Markus will continue to regress and Joey Hauser will come off his injury a shadow of his former self. These challenges can be managed.
But the weak defense? That's just our culture now.
Go spend some "quality" time servicing Willie.
Quote from: jonny09 on March 20, 2018, 08:28:48 PM
Good season?? Wtf am I missing here?? Now the NIT is considered a good season? Apparently expectations have hit rock bottom.
Agreed. Scoopers spend so much time trashing the Big ten , and then, when we get beat
at home by a team Wisky beat in Happy Valley, and everybody is "Well we tried but we got beat by a better team".
I see a real small market mentality setting in amongst the fan base.
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Top reasons why I am worried about next year
> Woj still sucks at coaching defense, and you can't coach coaching
> No more Andrew Rowsey
> Theo John is terrible and will not develop
> Markus Howard is a volume shooter who has lost his touch
> No athleticism
This is a very bad take.
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Top reasons why I am worried about next year
> Woj still sucks at coaching defense, and you can't coach coaching
> No more Andrew Rowsey
> Theo John is terrible and will not develop
> Markus Howard is a volume shooter who has lost his touch
> No athleticism
Actually agree with point 2, and agree there is some validity to point 1. Don't agree with the rest. I think Theo will be better next year. If Howard is not forced to be a major ballhandler, his 3FG% will go up, and our current freshmen and Morrow will give us athleticism. If we can come up with a good PG, we can be a top 20 team with sweet 16 potential. No PG, we should still make the tourney with some room to spare.
Honestly, none of the freshmen are guaranteed to have major progression. My lord I hope I am wrong. However, this is what you get with 3 star recruits. There is a large possibility they just don't have really high ceilings. That's what scares me.
Quote from: jonny09 on March 20, 2018, 08:58:41 PM
Honestly, none of the freshmen are guaranteed to have major progression. My lord I hope I am wrong. However, this is what you get with 3 star recruits. There is a large possibility they just don't have really high ceilings. That's what scares me.
No one is guaranteed anything so this point doesn't really mean much.
Quote from: Mutaman on March 20, 2018, 08:48:53 PM
Agreed. Scoopers spend so much time trashing the Big ten , and then, when we get beat at home by a team Wisky beat in Happy Valley, and everybody is "Well we tried but we got beat by a better team".
I see a real small market mentality setting in amongst the fan base.
Good lord. People can enjoy the season even if it ends in the NIT.
Quote from: Mutaman on March 20, 2018, 08:48:53 PM
Agreed. Scoopers spend so much time trashing the Big ten , and then, when we get beat at home by a team Wisky beat in Happy Valley, and everybody is "Well we tried but we got beat by a better team".
I see a real small market mentality setting in amongst the fan base.
Yeah, but Marquette beat Wisconsin, which beat Maryland-Baltimore County, which beat Virginia. Ergo, Marquette should have been a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament.
Cause that's how it works, apparently.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 20, 2018, 09:00:29 PM
No one is guaranteed anything so this point doesn't really mean much.
Good point. ::)
For sure good season. My expectation was NIT so I'll take it.
Next year NEEDS to be an improvement. No questions.
Quote from: jonny09 on March 20, 2018, 09:05:23 PM
Good point. ::)
Actually I'm happy it's the off season. Since there is no game to be complaining about, you go back into the hole in which you came from for about seven months.
It's refreshing.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 20, 2018, 09:01:06 PM
Good lord. People can enjoy the season even if it ends in the NIT.
Enjoy all you want. I'm just disappointed that some fans enjoy mediocrity. I mean this is Marquette, and I just can't figure a world where losing at home to Penn St on national tv is enjoyable. To each his own I guess.
Quote from: #bansultan on March 20, 2018, 09:11:47 PM
Actually I'm happy it's the off season. Since there is no game to be complaining about, you go back into the hole in which you came from for about seven months.
It's refreshing.
I'll be around. If only to point out how big of a dolt you are.
Says the guy who can't quote a post correctly.
Quote from: Mutaman on March 20, 2018, 09:12:49 PM
Enjoy all you want. I'm just disappointed that some fans enjoy mediocrity. I mean this is Marquette, and I just can't figure a world where losing at home to Penn St on national tv is enjoyable. To each his own I guess.
No one say that losing at home to Penn State at home was enjoyable.
Quote from: Mutaman on March 20, 2018, 09:12:49 PM
Enjoy all you want. I'm just disappointed that some fans enjoy mediocrity. I mean this is Marquette, and I just can't figure a world where losing at home to Penn St on national tv is enjoyable. To each his own I guess.
I absolutely enjoyed some parts of the season. Gnashed my teeth over others. One can still find enjoyment in a season even when/if the end result is a bit disappointment.
I mean, if that's not possible, why bother being a sports fan at all?
Only one team gets to cut down the nets in April, and we all knew it wasn't gonna be us. If people truly don't want a disappointing season, wait until the clock hits 0.0 in the title game and then decide who you were rooting for all year.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2018, 09:29:19 PM
I absolutely enjoyed some parts of the season. Gnashed my teeth over others. One can still find enjoyment in a season even when/if the end result is a bit disappointment.
I mean, if that's not possible, why bother being a sports fan at all?
Well stated as usual, Pakuni.
Some people just get their kicks from pissing on everything. They aren't even content to do their pissing in the toilets that are other pissing threads; they enjoy going into the threads where people are more optimistic and telling optimists we're stupid for being optimists.
It takes all kinds.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2018, 09:29:19 PM
I absolutely enjoyed some parts of the season. Gnashed my teeth over others. One can still find enjoyment in a season even when/if the end result is a bit disappointment.
I mean, if that's not possible, why bother being a sports fan at all?
I'm not a sports fan, I'm a Marquette fan.
Quote from: MU82 on March 20, 2018, 09:47:46 PM
Well stated as usual, Pakuni.
Some people just get their kicks from pissing on everything. They aren't even content to do their pissing in the toilets that are other pissing threads; they enjoy going into the threads where people are more optimistic and telling optimists we're stupid for being optimists.
It takes all kinds.
You mean there are some threads that are "optimistic threads" and some that are "pissing treads". I apologize I wasn't aware of that. Do the moderators enforce this distinction?
Query: how do you know which tread is which? Is there some kind of code? i really feel stupid for posting in an optimistic thread. tell me the secret and I'll be more careful in the future.
Quote from: Mutaman on March 20, 2018, 09:47:52 PM
I'm not a sports fan, I'm a Marquette fan.
How's the debate squad looking this year?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2018, 10:01:48 PM
How's the debate squad looking this year?
We invested a significant amount of money in the team but its not that important if we win or lose as long as we run a clean program and we give it the old college try.
I appreciate the effort, hope for an upward trajectory, and will always back our Warriors!
GooooMarquette!
Quote from: Mutaman on March 20, 2018, 09:54:23 PM
You mean there are some threads that are "optimistic threads" and some that are "pissing treads". I apologize I wasn't aware of that. Do the moderators enforce this distinction?
Query: how do you know which tread is which? Is there some kind of code? i really feel stupid for posting in an optimistic thread. tell me the secret and I'll be more careful in the future.
Sigh.
I'm very sorry that so many of you had such a miserable season. You may want to find another team that doesn't let you down nearly as often as this one.
I enjoyed watching this team this season. This is independent of how they did in the W/L column. They all seem to be great guys and despite what some people believe on this board they did play with a lot of heart. When the 3s were falling, the games were amazing. Markus scored 52 points in a come-from-behind victory at Providence. After being left for dead, the zone came back in murdered Creighton. Yes, they had their ups and downs - I was as disappointed as everyone about the loss at DePaul.
Scoopers, it was great to share the season with most of you. The ignore button is sometimes a godsend. But we are a community of fans, with diverse opinions and different approaches to our support of the team, the coach and the program. Thanks for filling my idle hours this season, and even some hours that I shouldn't have been idle but Scoop was just too compelling to ignore.
I'm excited by the additions coming next year and I approach each new season with a fresh view of the possibilities. Maybe I'll even make it to a couple games next year - my travel schedule made this year impossible. Never look forward to the offseason, but Madness always rolls around again and we will start this crazy thing all over again.
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on March 20, 2018, 10:44:04 PM
I'm very sorry that so many of you had such a miserable season. You may want to find another team that doesn't let you down nearly as often as this one.
I enjoyed watching this team this season. This is independent of how they did in the W/L column. They all seem to be great guys and despite what some people believe on this board they did play with a lot of heart. When the 3s were falling, the games were amazing. Markus scored 52 points in a come-from-behind victory at Providence. After being left for dead, the zone came back in murdered Creighton. Yes, they had their ups and downs - I was as disappointed as everyone about the loss at DePaul.
Scoopers, it was great to share the season with most of you. The ignore button is sometimes a godsend. But we are a community of fans, with diverse opinions and different approaches to our support of the team, the coach and the program. Thanks for filling my idle hours this season, and even some hours that I shouldn't have been idle but Scoop was just too compelling to ignore.
I'm excited by the additions coming next year and I approach each new season with a fresh view of the possibilities. Maybe I'll even make it to a couple games next year - my travel schedule made this year impossible. Never look forward to the offseason, but Madness always rolls around again and we will start this crazy thing all over again.
Mirrors my thoughts exactly. Thanks for contributing to the board this season!
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Top reasons why I am worried about next year
> Woj still sucks at coaching defense, and you can't coach coaching
> No more Andrew Rowsey
> Theo John is terrible and will not develop
> Markus Howard is a volume shooter who has lost his touch
> No athleticism
Congrats - Made Scoop Takes as a Walk-On. Think you are fastest so far. Gave me a big laugh. And your next post made it also.
Quote from: jonny09 on March 20, 2018, 08:28:48 PM
Good season?? Wtf am I missing here?? Now the NIT is considered a good season? Apparently expectations have hit rock bottom.
With the Wojo Kool Aiders, expectations are bottom tier BEast, and the Dance every 5 to 10 years. Mediocrity rules the scoop roost.
In September, my wife and I welcomed our firstborn into the world. Due to complications at birth, he passed away 10 days later. In an otherwise difficult winter, being a first time full season ticket holder and watching MUBB has been a welcome respite from the challenges of everyday life.
Although the team just missed my expectations, I appreciate the entertainment this year brought. I enjoyed watching the growth of the freshman, watching Rowsey being a character on the court, #TheThing, spending way too much time following insightful and respectful posts on the scoop, the drama of being on the bubble, and so much more. The enjoyment I had this year does not take away from my disappointment we didn't make the tournament, but losing out and playing in the NIT doesn't define that enjoyment either.
Attending the Purdue game was the first time we went out to do something "fun" after our son passed away. It was difficult for more reasons than Haas having free reign at the hoop. However, I appreciated being there none the less. If that game and this year taught me anything, it's that you don't need to lower your expectations in order to find and express positives. Nor do you need to demand less in the future. This is just sports after all, where winning is all, but it's not everything. If it is literally everything to you, I humbly suggest you take time to re-evaluate what is important to you and watch Tony Bennett's post-game interview from their 16 seed loss. It's not how you handle the wins that matter, it's how you handle the losses that show your character.
That all being said, thank you scoopers for adding to my entertainment this year. Respect your fellow posters. See you in the off season and during a much more successful 2018-2019 season!
I am sorry for your loss. I have been there. Thank you for your perspective.
Quote from: UWW2MU on March 21, 2018, 02:55:14 PM
In September, my wife and I welcomed our firstborn into the world. Due to complications at birth, he passed away 10 days later. In an otherwise difficult winter, being a first time full season ticket holder and watching MUBB has been a welcome respite from the challenges of everyday life.
Although the team just missed my expectations, I appreciate the entertainment this year brought. I enjoyed watching the growth of the freshman, watching Rowsey being a character on the court, #TheThing, spending way too much time following insightful and respectful posts on the scoop, the drama of being on the bubble, and so much more. The enjoyment I had this year does not take away from my disappointment we didn't make the tournament, but losing out and playing in the NIT doesn't define that enjoyment either.
Attending the Purdue game was the first time we went out to do something "fun" after our son passed away. It was difficult for more reasons than Haas having free reign at the hoop. However, I appreciated being there none the less. If that game and this year taught me anything, it's that you don't need to lower your expectations in order to find and express positives. Nor do you need to demand less in the future. This is just sports after all, where winning is all, but it's not everything. If it is literally everything to you, I humbly suggest you take time to re-evaluate what is important to you and watch Tony Bennett's post-game interview from their 16 seed loss. It's not how you handle the wins that matter, it's how you handle the losses that show your character.
That all being said, thank you scoopers for adding to my entertainment this year. Respect your fellow posters. See you in the off season and during a much more successful 2018-2019 season!
I'm so sorry for your loss UWW. Your outlook is much appreciated on a board where people think MU Hoops is life or death. Hopefully, we can all realize that while Marquette Basketball is an important part of our lives, it's not even close to being at the top of the list. My sincere condolences to you and your wife.
Thank you Tower and Lighthouse. I debated sharing that but wanted to thank everyone for all the good posts and add a bit of relativism to the conversation (and maybe future conversations?).
Quote from: haymaker on March 20, 2018, 08:06:19 PM
Top reasons why I am worried about next year
> Woj still sucks at coaching defense, and you can't coach coaching
> No more Andrew Rowsey
> Theo John is terrible and will not develop
> Markus Howard is a volume shooter who has lost his touch
> No athleticism
Did you wander in the wrong thread?
Quote from: jonny09 on March 20, 2018, 08:28:48 PM
Good season?? Wtf am I missing here?? Now the NIT is considered a good season? Apparently expectations have hit rock bottom.
How many wins did you predict at the beginning of the season?
Amen Brother UWW2MU. Thanks for your story and reminder about life.
As bearish on Wojo as I have been (and am), I do appreciate the fun brand of basketball we've played the last two years. All of the kids seem to be very good representatives of MU. The team played hard. Wojo seems like a good guy. He checks the boxes on a number of levels. But, I feel the one box he doesn't yet check is the most important - ability to coach on the fly and adjust in-game accordingly.
I credit Wojo and staff for getting all of these players to MU. Andrew will go down as one of my absolute favorite Warriors of the last 30 years. Also on that list: Devante, Jae, D-Wade, Aaron Hutchins, Damon Key. Ooh. And let's not forget John Dawson.
I do have to admit the NIT was fun, despite not being in the real tournament.
But, next year needs to be far better, and I think it will be.
UWW2MU:
Sincere condolences. You and your wife have been through something no parents should have to go through. I am glad that Warriors hoops was able to give you a break.
Here's hoping your life is filled with happiness, contentment and love.
Dear UWW2MU:
I am so deeply sorry for your loss. Your story reminded me a lot of my own. My wife and I lost our firstborn in 2012.
My son was born in September as well. He lived 18 days. He had a congenital birth defect that lead to several complications before his passing.
One of the first "fun" things my wife and I did was attend Marquette Madness. Buzz made the famous "Sweet 16 ain't good enough anymore" comment that night. The team went on to be Big East Co-Champions and made a run to the Elite 8.
Marquette basketball provided a nice distraction during a very dark time in my life. I'm glad it was able to provide some distraction in yours.
Please PM if me you ever need someone to talk to. I know how much of a shithole that first year can be. You will be in my thoughts.
Sincerely,
Nick (Lazar's Headband)
So very sorry for your terrible loss UWW. Glad #mubb could provide some sunshine for you and your wife this winter.
My prayer for you is that the cherished memories you have of your son will sustain you until you see him again many years from now. God bless. And we'll see you at Chaluparena next season.
Sorry, I really did a number on hijacking this thread!
Thank you all for the kind words and Nick for sharing your story. Hm... maybe Wojo can give a "Sweet 16 ain't good enough anymore" (or in this case, NIT or mere appearance at NCAA ain't good enough anymore) speech at the awards banquet and we can can have a breakout season this coming year!
Happily, I can report we're doing quite well overall and appreciate life all the more having been through this.
Thanks again everyone!