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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Eye on February 21, 2017, 08:49:25 PM
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Might as well be the 1st. Heldt SOTG?*
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Bro
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Might as well be the 1st. Heldt SOTG?*
SOG HELDT
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Needs to seal the deal with one more rebound for the dub dub
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Heldtasaurusrex all the way
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M F'in H
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Heldt. SOTG. Thread should've ended with the first post.
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Luke doing his duty to get Heldt back in the game by fouling out.
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HELDT
I have said it from day 1, we dont need scoring from the 5. We need defense n rebounding!!! The kid brings it. He can score the scraps too, good enough n the kid hits free throws!!!
He is a better fit for what this team needs.
The backup quarteback comments wrong!! estats are wrong too!!
Double Double!!!!
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Heldt finished with 15pt and 10 rebounds - A DOUBLE DOUBLE!!
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Guy isn't very talented but he works his a** off and gets the most out of his ability.
Hard not to root for him.
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Heldtasaurausrex!
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THE TERROR FROM NEENAH!!!
Congrats Matt.
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Agreed!
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Double double. Give it to him. Matty!
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Heldt. Very impressive development from year one into year two.
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Matttttttt
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Heldt!
Sam
JJJ
Katin
Rowsey
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without a doubt. He earned it.
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Heldt, no doubt. 100% from the floor, 100% from the line and a double double. Can't beat that efficiency.
But Hauser had an awesome game.
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Heldt!!!!!
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Wocky, make it so.
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+++
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MH versus X, different MH vs St. Johns. Both unanimous, making' life easier for Rocky!
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Coining it right now:
Give 'em Heldt, Steve.
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Heldt +1
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Will the real SOTG thread please stand up!
Gotta be Heldt, 15/10 3 fouls 1 to
Can't discount Sam's performance though - 19/8, 4 steals, 1 assist.
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Id give it to Heldt but man Sammy was really really good too!
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Heldt all the way
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Chick says Heldt for SOTG. She gets credit for texting me before the game and predicting Heldt. Well done Chick.
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This one is a lot closer for me than I think for most.
Reinhardt- When SJU went on a run and got it to 10 points, Katin went on a personal 10-0 run to squash their momentum and keep us out of spitting distance. Handed out 5 dimes too.
Sammy- Set the tone early going 4-4 from three. Grabbed eight boards and was a terror defensively nabbing three steals...two of which were all out effort plays.
JJJ- Least deserving of the group but I though he responded well after the benching and had a run in the 2nd half that put a stop to SJU's last stand. Plus...that dunk.
But the SOTG should go to Heldter-Skelter. 100% from the floor, 15 points, 10 boards and solid defense in the post. Was the heart of the team tonight.
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RT@ScoopTakes: Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. #JJJ4SOTG
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Heldt's a comin'!
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1. Belts.
2. Hauser.
3. Rowsey.
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This one is a lot closer for me than I think for most.
Reinhardt- When SJU went on a run and got it to 10 points, Katin went on a personal 10-0 run to squash their momentum and keep us out of spitting distance. Handed out 5 dimes too.
Sammy- Set the tone early going 4-4 from three. Grabbed eight boards and was a terror defensively nabbing three steals...two of which were all out effort plays.
JJJ- Least deserving of the group but I though he responded well after the benching and had a run in the 2nd half that put a stop to SJU's last stand. Plus...that dunk.
But the SOTG should go to Heldter-Skelter. 100% from the floor, 15 points, 10 boards and solid defense in the post. Was the heart of the team tonight.
Quit overthinking it, friend. THE TERROR FROM NEENAH!
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Fg: 6-6
FT: 3-3
Pts: 15 (career high)
Reb: 10 (I assume career high)
2 nice tip-ins
Couldn't find his minutes yet but only 3 PF's. Remember when he was a foul machine?
Had 2-3 missed FT rebounds that went to others, I thought he wouldn't get the dub-dub.
As Skat pointed out, good work by Luke. I roared when he got
the contested rebound for # 10 and was impressed that the crowd was on it. I remember a post when Matty was a recruit or a raw frosh when one of the regulars indicated he had game.
Good work tonight by Sam, JJJ, Rowsey and Swag, but it's the maiden for Matty.
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Students trying so hard to be Duke. SAD!
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If you go strictly by stats, an argument can be made for Sam or Katin, as well. But, Matt hung a double double and had a breakout game for him, silencing the doubters. Let him have his first.
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Herr heldt und Herr Hauser...Der Deutsche Dopple
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Hustle over talent
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HELDT
I have said it from day 1, we dont need scoring from the 5. We need defense n rebounding!!! The kid brings it. He can score the scraps too, good enough n the kid hits free throws!!!
He is a better fit for what this team needs.
The backup quarteback comments wrong!! estats are wrong too!!
Double Double!!!!
Absolutely.
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Herr heldt und Herr Hauser...Der Deutsche Dopple
JA VOHL!
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Not only is Matt SOTG no one is even contesting it! That's a first...
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Heldt!!
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He's rolling thunder, pouring rain
He's coming on like a hurricane
His lightning's flashing across the sky
You're only young but you're gonna die
He won't take no prisoners, won't spare no lives
Nobody's putting up a fight
He got his bell, he's going to take you to hell
He's going to get you satan, get you
Heldt's Bells!
Heldt's Bells, you got him ringing
Heldt's Bells, his temperature's high
Heldt's Bells!
He'll give you sensations up and down your spine
He's a friend of evil, he's a friend of mine
See his whiteness flashing as he splits the night
He block's shots with the left, blocks shots with the right
He won't take no prisoners, won't spare no lives
Nobody's putting up a fight
He got his bell, he's going to take you to hell
He's going to get you satan, get you
Heldt's Bells!
Heldt's Bells, you got him ringing
Heldt's Bells, his temperature's high
Heldt's Bells!
Heldt's Bells, satan's coming to you
Heldt's Bells, he's ringing them now
Those Heldt's Bells, the temperature's high
Heldt's Bells! Across the sky,
Heldt's Bells! They're taking you down,
Heldt's Bells! They're dragging you under,
Heldt's Bells! Gonna split the night,
Heldt's Bells! There's no way to fight
Heldt's Bells!
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OK, I'll partially contest. People are asking me to ignore Sam's 19pts, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and one assist -- and choose the guy with 15 pts, 10 reb, and...well, that's it!?!?
Admit it. You all just want to see every active scholarship player get a SOTG! Do you think we just give participation ribbons here!?!
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In this case, yes. A legit double double.
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OK, I'll partially contest. People are asking me to ignore Sam's 19pts, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and one assist -- and choose the guy with 15 pts, 10 reb, and...well, that's it!?!?
Admit it. You all just want to see every active scholarship player get a SOTG! Do you think we just give participation ribbons here!?!
Agreed but defense too. Not that Hauser was terrible on D but Heldt had to clean up the mess when we loss guys on the perimeter plus deal with St. John's bigs.
That said, I would have no problem with Hauser either.
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OK, I'll partially contest. People are asking me to ignore Sam's 19pts, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and one assist -- and choose the guy with 15 pts, 10 reb, and...well, that's it!?!?
Admit it. You all just want to see every active scholarship player get a SOTG! Do you think we just give participation ribbons here!?!
I see where you are going with that. Heldt came to play, had been amping up his game the whole year, hell I would have gave it to him for his OT Seton Hall defensive performance alone. Close contest Heldt by a nose.
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Don't listen to them Rocky. Screw the "everyone should get one" crap, if Luke puts up the same numbers than Nobody is saying Luke should get SOTG and wed all vote Sam
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OK, I'll partially contest. People are asking me to ignore Sam's 19pts, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and one assist -- and choose the guy with 15 pts, 10 reb, and...well, that's it!?!?
Admit it. You all just want to see every active scholarship player get a SOTG! Do you think we just give participation ribbons here!?!
I thought we gave banners around here
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Real team effort but one player was Heldt. and shoulders over other candidates
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IF luke put up heldts exact numbers today. nobody would vote luke. Don't lose your judgement ppl
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OK, I'll partially contest. People are asking me to ignore Sam's 19pts, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and one assist -- and choose the guy with 15 pts, 10 reb, and...well, that's it!?!?
Admit it. You all just want to see every active scholarship player get a SOTG! Do you think we just give participation ribbons here!?!
Rocky, self impose a personal ban if you screw this up. Matt anchored the team.
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IF luke put up heldts exact numbers today. nobody would vote luke. Don't lose your judgement ppl
Perception trumps reality.
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IF luke put up heldts exact numbers today. nobody would vote luke. Don't lose your judgement ppl
Trying to save face won't help you now dude.
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M F'in H
Marcus Howard? ;)
IF luke put up heldts exact numbers today. nobody would vote luke. Don't lose your judgement ppl
Did he? No, ok what's the point?
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OK, I'll partially contest. People are asking me to ignore Sam's 19pts, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and one assist -- and choose the guy with 15 pts, 10 reb, and...well, that's it!?!?
Admit it. You all just want to see every active scholarship player get a SOTG! Do you think we just give participation ribbons here!?!
Heldt didn't miss all night. 10 rebounds. Perfection.
Sam with the three turnovers disqualifies him
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I thought Heldt's performance overall had a larger impact on the outcome of the game than Sam's did.
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This is a nice problem to have. Great performances all around. Looking forward to the great finish to the season!!
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Matty "The Beast" Heldt for SOTG!
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Last time around, Yakwe killed us. Tonight he was denied in the post. It's not ignoring Hauser, but acknowledging Heldt.
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1. Matty. Came to play. I get your rationale Rock, but he was perfect on the night.
2. Doggie. Great seeing him go off early and often.
3. JjJ. The dunk alone gets him third.
Good team effort. Go Warriors!
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Heldt. Very impressive development from year one into year two.
I'd say on top of that, his non-con improvement until now has been very encouraging. He made a big leap last year too, but got hurt towards the end.
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Good point, Lighthouse. Matt didn't just score 15, he was 6/6 from the floor and 3/3 from the line. No wasted possessions on offense. 100% eFG% cannot be denied (especially considering Sam's paltry 95%).
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Had Markus not exploded last game Matt 'the difference' Heldt would be back to back.
Look at the line my brothers:
29 minutes, 6-6 shooting, 3-3 from the line, 10 boards, 1 TO, and 3 fouls. That's the equivalent to 140+ quarterback rating.
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This one is a lot closer for me than I think for most.
Reinhardt- When SJU went on a run and got it to 10 points, Katin went on a personal 10-0 run to squash their momentum and keep us out of spitting distance. Handed out 5 dimes too.
Sammy- Set the tone early going 4-4 from three. Grabbed eight boards and was a terror defensively nabbing three steals...two of which were all out effort plays.
JJJ- Least deserving of the group but I though he responded well after the benching and had a run in the 2nd half that put a stop to SJU's last stand. Plus...that dunk.
But the SOTG should go to Heldter-Skelter. 100% from the floor, 15 points, 10 boards and solid defense in the post. Was the heart of the team tonight.
TAMU sums it up perfectly. Not discounting Sam's performance, and could care less about having all Scholarship players win SOTG, but IMO Heldt was SOTG tonight.
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This one is a lot closer for me than I think for most.
Reinhardt- When SJU went on a run and got it to 10 points, Katin went on a personal 10-0 run to squash their momentum and keep us out of spitting distance. Handed out 5 dimes too.
Sammy- Set the tone early going 4-4 from three. Grabbed eight boards and was a terror defensively nabbing three steals...two of which were all out effort plays.
JJJ- Least deserving of the group but I though he responded well after the benching and had a run in the 2nd half that put a stop to SJU's last stand. Plus...that dunk.
But the SOTG should go to Heldter-Skelter. 100% from the floor, 15 points, 10 boards and solid defense in the post. Was the heart of the team tonight.
I'd put JJJ ahead of Reinhardt but otherwise I like everything you say here.
This is why we didn't need to give Heldt a pity SOTG a few weeks back when lots of Scoopers were lobbying for it even though other players were easily more deserving.
40 years from now, when Matt is bouncing his grandson on his knee, he'll proudly recall this day and finish describing the action by saying, "And when I got my first SOTG, I really earned it. That's what made it so satisfying."
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OK, I'll partially contest. People are asking me to ignore Sam's 19pts, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and one assist -- and choose the guy with 15 pts, 10 reb, and...well, that's it!?!?
Admit it. You all just want to see every active scholarship player get a SOTG! Do you think we just give participation ribbons here!?!
We have lots of scorers, but only two Bigs. Let's not live and die by the Stats, there are some things only measured by the eye. #12
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OK, I'll partially contest. People are asking me to ignore Sam's 19pts, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and one assist -- and choose the guy with 15 pts, 10 reb, and...well, that's it!?!?
Admit it. You all just want to see every active scholarship player get a SOTG! Do you think we just give participation ribbons here!?!
Had the same thought. Turnovers were the difference for me. 1 for Heldt, 3 for Sammy.
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It better be Heldt
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It was a good team effort overall. Sam got us out of the gate strong. He had a robust stat line. However, what Matt did against a very athletic team is impressive. I would say give it to Matt simply because without him we would not have won. JJJ had some honorable mention worthy moments in the second half.
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It was a good team effort overall. Sam got us out of the gate strong. He had a robust stat line. However, what Matt did against a very athletic team is impressive. I would say give it to Matt simply because without him we would not have won. JJJ had some honorable mention worthy moments in the second half.
Without matt we wouldn't have won?? that's ludicrous speaking right there.
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Without matt we wouldn't have won?? that's ludicrous speaking right there.
Yep, because then Fisher would have had 22 minutes (double his 11), 12 points (double his 6), and 14 rebounds (double his 7), and 10 fouls. Or maybe not.
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Heldt was also fantastic defensively, hedging screens and getting back or keeping with the guard.
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Without matt we wouldn't have won?? that's ludicrous speaking right there.
What does this guy know - he didn't even go to the game
Heldt! Do it for Neenah, they need a win
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The TERROR
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Heldt SOTG
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OK, I'll partially contest. People are asking me to ignore Sam's 19pts, 8 rebounds, 4 steals and one assist -- and choose the guy with 15 pts, 10 reb, and...well, that's it!?!?
Admit it. You all just want to see every active scholarship player get a SOTG! Do you think we just give participation ribbons here!?!
If I admit it, will that sway you? I'll admit it. During the game I was hoping that Heldt would have a big game so that we'd see every active scholarship with a SOTG. I thought that would be kind of cool. But, as I said, I was hoping he'd have a big game. I wanted him to deserve it; to earn it. And he did. Heldt for SOTG.
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HELDT
Hauser
JJJ (dear God... that dunk was amazing!)
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JJJ played pretty good in his return. But it has to go to Heldt
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Perhaps the new cover photo on Marquette BB's Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/MarquetteMensBB/) should count as a vote for SOTG.
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
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Guy isn't very talented but he works his a** off and gets the most out of his ability.
Hard not to root for him.
He was talented enough to get multiple D1 offers....and he is talented enough to have 15-10 in a Big East game in a must win for his team near March...Maybe didn't come in with much "talent" but Wojo and the weight room are making him into something.
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
One of us, One of us.
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
Good call, the money you'd lose in cancelled subscriptions alone justifies this move.
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l83n44vdKw1qclcbeo1_r1_500.jpg)
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/y0ljcPCxtJQVq/giphy.gif)
Good call avoiding this, BTW.....
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Heldt. How can you not?
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
Give us Barabbas!
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
Wise call.
I voted for Heldt because I think he deserved it, but Sam did have a heck of a game. I especially liked his great diving, sprawling save of a ball headed out of bounds ... except that Haani turned it over about 2 seconds later. And I think that might have been it for Haani for the night.
I also very much liked Sam's two mid-range jumpers after nice fakes shed the defender who had closed on him. After the first one, I said that if he did that more often it would make him a more dangerous, well-rounded player. After the second one, Bardo said the same thing. Which either confirms my superior intellect or worries the hell out of me.
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Give us Barabbas!
Welease Wodewick!
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Wise call.
I voted for Heldt because I think he deserved it, but Sam did have a heck of a game. I especially liked his great diving, sprawling save of a ball headed out of bounds ... except that Haani turned it over about 2 seconds later. And I think that might have been it for Haani for the night.
I also very much liked Sam's two mid-range jumpers after nice fakes shed the defender who had closed on him. After the first one, I said that if he did that more often it would make him a more dangerous, well-rounded player. After the second one, Bardo said the same thing. Which either confirms my superior intellect or worries the hell out of me.
Sam was brilliant not just on his early 3s but his two pull-up moves. Hadn't seen that from him creating his own shot. His best game of the season, I thought.
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Heldter Skelter!
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Here Rocky -- use this picture
Or this one
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Give us Barabbas!
effin hilarious!
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
Is that Good or Bad.
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Sam did have a great game. Nice that Wojo sent both of them to the podium. My thought as I clicked to it. 'My God, we've become Wisconsin!' :o
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Well done, Wocky.
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+1
Every scholarship player has had this honor this year ... first time ever!
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
...and you're going to Texas?
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jsglow
Thought the same thing and hope we end up as successful as UW has been the past 15 years.
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I went for Heldt partly grading on a curve. Sam had a great game, normally SOTG worthy. But Sam has played at that level before. Matt may have had his Jean Felix game last night, playing way above what anyone thought was possible.
Glad Matt is SOTG. Otherwise there would have been Heldt to pay!
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...and you're going to Texas?
I laughed
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
See, you still have to deal with the angry mob. Grade on a curve.
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jsglow
Thought the same thing and hope we end up as successful as UW has been the past 15 years.
Damn straight.
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+1
Every scholarship player has had this honor this year ... first time ever!
Now we just need Cam & Deon, hey?
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Marcus Howard? ;)
Yes! It's a 2-for-1 special!
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Now we just need Cam & Deon, hey?
Actually, we're too late, since neither Traci nor Sandy (both scholarship players this year) got one.
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I still honestly think Sam deserved it more. But it seems only Johnny B agrees with me. Since I don't feel like dealing with an angry mob, you get your wish, and can all go to Heldt!
..and you can go where ever Ners and Chicos are.
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Any idea what the record is for most number of different SOTGs we have had in a single year is? Wondering if 9 different SOTG candidates is close to the record.