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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: VegasWarrior77 on January 10, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
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Per Matt Velazquez:
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2017/01/10/smu-transfer-harry-froling-picks-marquette/96388088/
Per Evan Daniels:
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1744762-harry-froling-transfer-marquette
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Bout time we got an INcoming transfer.
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Keep Froling, Froling, Froling.
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BYCRACKY!
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Mind games...... 8-)
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18447083/harry-froling-transferring-smu-mustangs-marquette-golden-eagles
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Harry Froling @HarryFroling 48s48 seconds ago
Excited to announce that I will be transferring to Marquette University! Excited to become a golden-eagle! 〽️
There you have it!
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Definitive enuff for me, anyway he can be instantly eligible?
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Good deal. Welcome Harry!
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Pretty neat having Evan Daniels on the FS1 pre game show talking anout Froling.
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In reply to Harry Froling
Markus Howard @markushoward11 18m18 minutes ago
@HarryFroling welcome to the family my guy! #mubb
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Pretty neat having Evan Daniels on the FS1 pre game show talking anout Froling.
http://www.snappytv.com/tc/3648178
MU/Froling comments start at 1:00...
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Definitive enuff for me, anyway he can be instantly eligible?
No.
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Woot! Awesome news! Great job by Wojo et al, and welcome to Marquette, Harry!
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Yet another failure by Wojo.
Just as the wins over Providence, Creighton, Butler, Wisconsin, LSU and Georgia didn't count, landing Henry, Markus, Hauser, Haani and now Froling don't count.
I mean, take away all of his recruits and he's a bad recruiter.
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Gotta be a good pickup. Not sure if it measures up to the hype. Have no meaningful evaluation of the kid - saw some video, he doesn't look exceptionally physical, but he has good bloodline. Definitely will help in practice. Just don't see this as transformational. All that said, here's hoping he has a very successful and productive stay at MU.
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Yet another failure by Wojo.
Just as the wins over Providence, Creighton, Butler, Wisconsin, LSU and Georgia didn't count, landing Henry, Markus, Hauser, Haani and now Froling don't count.
I mean, take away all of his recruits and he's a bad recruiter.
Seriously? if we now consider Oregon State our competition we are truly destined to remain at the bottom of the league.
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Gotta be a good pickup. Not sure if it measures up to the hype. Have no meaningful evaluation of the kid - saw some video, he doesn't look exceptionally physical, but he has good bloodline. Definitely will help in practice. Just don't see this as transformational. All that said, here's hoping he has a very successful and productive stay at MU.
A recruit doesn't need to be "transformational" to be a good pickup.
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Gotta be a good pickup. Not sure if it measures up to the hype. Have no meaningful evaluation of the kid - saw some video, he doesn't look exceptionally physical, but he has good bloodline. Definitely will help in practice. Just don't see this as transformational. All that said, here's hoping he has a very successful and productive stay at MU.
Wow. We're complaining about 4 star 6' 11" centers. Between Harry and Matt we've got the 5 spot covered for the next 2 years. Terrible.
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Bout time we got an INcoming transfer.
The last mid-season INcoming transfer - Luke
The last over the summer INcoming Transfer - Rowsey
The last INcoming Grad Transfer - Reinhart
Yeah, we never get any.
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The last one was Luke
Spot on....if you ignore Matt Carlino, Gabe Levin, Wally Ellenson, Andrew Rowsey and Katin Reinhardt.
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Interestingly:
Harry's "little brother" (6'10") Samson is 16 and made an Aussie under 19 team.
http://www.eurobasket.com/Top-Prospects/basketball.asp
Harry's sister Alicia is a forward on the SMU women's team. She has a twin sister, Keely, who had attended SMU and now plays professionally in the WNBL for the Canberra Capitals.
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Spot on....if you ignore Matt Carlino, Gabe Levin, Wally Ellenson, Andrew Rowsey and Katin Reinhardt.
Lol.
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Interestingly:
Harry's "little brother" (6'10") Samson is 16 and made an Aussie under 19 team.
http://www.eurobasket.com/Top-Prospects/basketball.asp
Harry's sister Alicia is a forward on the SMU women's team. She has a twin sister, Keely, who had attended SMU and now plays professionally in the WNBL for the Canberra Capitals.
Anybody named Samson is bound to be loved in Milwaukee.
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Interestingly:
Harry's "little brother" (6'10") Samson is 16 and made an Aussie under 19 team.
http://www.eurobasket.com/Top-Prospects/basketball.asp
Harry's sister Alicia is a forward on the SMU women's team. She has a twin sister, Keely, who had attended SMU and now plays professionally in the WNBL for the Canberra Capitals.
For those wondering, Samson would be in the class of 2018. Currently ranked #248 by 247 composite. Will say that international players are consistently under ranked by most recruiting services.
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Mind games...... 8-)
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18447083/harry-froling-transferring-smu-mustangs-marquette-golden-eagles
"Another thing that really attracted me to Marquette was the Henry Ellenson situation," said Froling, referring to the former Golden Eagles big man who became a first-round NBA draft pick. "I know I'm not Henry, but we do have some similar attributes and the way Coach demonstrated how he changes the offense and plays to his team was awesome. As long as I hold up my end of the bargain and give it my all, there's no reason I don't see myself playing a huge role in the success of Marquette in the near and distant future."
I think someone mentioned that Henry was going to be a huge selling point for young Mr. Froling. Also, if I understand the rules correctly, this wouldn't have been possible without Wally's departure. How about that, the American with an Australian sounding name made room for the Australian with an American sounding name. Wally's twitter handle is also the Kangaroo Kid....which makes it even better.
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Was always impressed by the Aussie players on St. Marys and Gonzaga over the years.
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Was always impressed by the Aussie players on St. Marys and Gonzaga over the years.
and Andrew Gaze
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Andrew Bogut at Utah...
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Yet another failure by Wojo.
Just as the wins over Providence, Creighton, Butler, Wisconsin, LSU and Georgia didn't count, landing Henry, Markus, Hauser, Haani and now Froling don't count.
I mean, take away all of his recruits and he's a bad recruiter.
So tell me...how big were those wins anyway?? certainly helped get MU in the tourney didn't they?? Sad that for most here, those are considered good wins..Those are games the marquette program should be EXPECTED to win. Not exactly UNC, kentucky, and Duke.
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Elle Macpherson, hey?
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Great news. Welcome to Marquette. One more needed piece in place for next season. If competing against Luke for 1-1/2 years has helped Matt improve his game, we should expect more of the same with Harry.
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and Andrew Gaze
Andrew Gaze is 50 years old.
How about Patty Mills, Dante Exum or Ben Simmons?
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Andrew Gaze is 50 years old.
How about Patty Mills, Dante Exum or Ben Simmons?
Dellavodova and Thon Maker(who I'm sure played a big part in his decision to come to MU).
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Not exactly UNC, kentucky, and Duke.
I know we'd all like to get back to that level. But come on — since 1977, Marquette has made exactly 1 Final Four appearance. Duke alone has been to 12. Do you really think comparing the two programs is realistic?
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Anybody named Samson is bound to be loved in Milwaukee.
Definitely a cager
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Haven't seen this yet:
(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
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I know we'd all like to get back to that level. But come on — since 1977, Marquette has made exactly 1 Final Four appearance. Duke alone has been to 12. Do you really think comparing the two programs is realistic?
You missed my point, I meant beating Providence, Butler, UW etc is not like beating Kentucky, UNC, or Duke.
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Any chance of recruiting Elle Macpherson at the point or wing?
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Anybody named Samson is bound to be loved in Milwaukee.
Hopefully this one doesn't make me crap my pants like the original did when I was a kid.
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You missed my point, I meant beating Providence, Butler, UW etc is not like beating Kentucky, UNC, or Duke.
Considering UW and Butler have both been to one national title game and another Final Four in the last decade I'd say those programs have been fairly successful and wins against them are pretty big wins.
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You missed my point, I meant beating Providence, Butler, UW etc is not like beating Kentucky, UNC, or Duke.
IF, you contend that Wojo has not had any good wins at Marquette, and
IF, Providence, Butler and UW aren't good wins because they aren't like beating Kentucky, UNC or Duke,
THEN Buzz didn't have any "good wins" either.
Look, you just have to understand that beating a top 10 Providence team on the road is a "good win." It may not excite you like a win over Duke, UNC or Kentucky, but it is a good win.
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IF, you contend that Wojo has not had any good wins at Marquette, and
IF, Providence, Butler and UW aren't good wins because they aren't like beating Kentucky, UNC or Duke,
THEN Buzz didn't have any "good wins" either.
Look, you just have to understand that beating a top 10 Providence team on the road is a "good win." It may not excite you like a win over Duke, UNC or Kentucky, but it is a good win.
Also true.
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Wow. We're complaining about 4 star 6' 11" centers. Between Harry and Matt we've got the 5 spot covered for the next 2 years. Terrible.
Think Harry sees himself as a stretch 4 (ala HE). Of course, that doesn't mean he won't play some center.
Regardless, a nice pick up for Wojo and the Warriors.
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Smoke and mirrors leads to manna from Heaven!
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As I recall when Buzz had a team with Crowder, Butler and DJO he was down 30 at the half against UNC before losing by about 13?
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put another shrimp on the barby, ey?
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Gotta be a good pickup. Not sure if it measures up to the hype. Have no meaningful evaluation of the kid - saw some video, he doesn't look exceptionally physical, but he has good bloodline. Definitely will help in practice. Just don't see this as transformational. All that said, here's hoping he has a very successful and productive stay at MU.
Does your last sentence mean you will be happy if your assessment is wrong?
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put another shrimp on the barby, ey?
Now that we have an Aussie you have to use the Down Unda lingo.... Prawns on the Barbie.
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Think Harry sees himself as a stretch 4 (ala HE). Of course, that doesn't mean he won't play some center.
Regardless, a nice pick up for Wojo and the Warriors.
That may be true. Nice to have 4 big bodies to cover the two slots.
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(https://www.vistax64.com/attachments/chillout-room/8859d1230143088-jumpin-jehosophat-ive-got-snake-my-pc-shrimp-jpg)
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I think someone mentioned that Henry was going to be a huge selling point for young Mr. Froling. Also, if I understand the rules correctly, this wouldn't have been possible without Wally's departure. How about that, the American with an Australian sounding name made room for the Australian with an American sounding name. Wally's twitter handle is also the Kangaroo Kid....which makes it even better.
Smoke & mirrors, hey?
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Elle Macpherson, hey?
(http://media.vogue.com/r/w_280/2015/06/26/elle-macpherson-sports-illustrated.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/88/8c/85/888c857b349b9b3762a19a26ae524783.jpg)
are wet t-shirts allowed on scoop? :o
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IF, you contend that Wojo has not had any good wins at Marquette, and
IF, Providence, Butler and UW aren't good wins because they aren't like beating Kentucky, UNC or Duke,
THEN Buzz didn't have any "good wins" either.
Look, you just have to understand that beating a top 10 Providence team on the road is a "good win." It may not excite you like a win over Duke, UNC or Kentucky, but it is a good win.
Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year. Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy? Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?
So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era: The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game. At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.
I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina. Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams.
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Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year. Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy? Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?
So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era: The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game. At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.
I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina. Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams.
Can you dunk?
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Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year. Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy? Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?
So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era: The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game. At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.
I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina. Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams.
I wonder if we still had Derrick, would we have beaten a "legitimate" Top 25 team multiple times
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Hopefully this one doesn't make me crap my pants like the original did when I was a kid.
Hahaha so true
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Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year. Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy? Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?
So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era: The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game. At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.
I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina. Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams.
So wait. Which is it? Are we going to look at the team's ranking and record when we beat them, or are we going to look at what their season became? You can't have it both ways...
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Hopefully this one doesn't make me crap my pants like the original did when I was a kid.
I thought I was the only one...although I was a sophomore in college when it happened to me.
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Elle Macpherson, hey?
You are dating yourself...time to update your wall poster from last century, ai-na?
(http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/3306504/658full-jessica-gomes.jpg)
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So wait. Which is it? Are we going to look at the team's ranking and record when we beat them, or are we going to look at what their season became? You can't have it both ways...
SOP for NERS
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You are dating yourself...time to update your wall poster from last century, ai-na?
(http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/3306504/658full-jessica-gomes.jpg)
Not remotely in the same league as Elle
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Not remotely in the same league as Elle
No truer words have been spoken...
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/410548/ELLE-MACPHERSON-NO-MAKEUP.jpg)
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"It is going to be a very hard and challenging experience and I believe that's what I need to take my game to the next level, no more just getting by the way I have for the last 18 years.”
This was his reaction after seeing snow for the first time this weekend, right? ;D
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Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year. Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy? Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?
So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era: The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game. At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.
I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina. Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams.
Everyone's has a quip or an insult, but nothing that amounts to a real rebuttal.
Look forward to a time (soon I hope) when this is no longer true.
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You missed my point, I meant beating Providence, Butler, UW etc is not like beating Kentucky, UNC, or Duke.
Now there's proof that Wojo sucks! In 2 1/2 seasons at Marquette, he hasn't been able to beat Kentucky, UNC or Duke.
The fact that Marquette hasn't played Kentucky, UNC or Duke ... just a minor annoyance. Wojo shoulda beaten them anyway!
And did it ever dawn on you that one reason Providence wasn't ranked at the end of the season was that they lost twice to Marquette?
Get a life, buddy, I'm worried about you. It's just basketball. Find a human to hug.
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SOP for NERS
Oh joy.
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Smoke and mirrors leads to manna from Heaven!
Nice
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C'mon guys, there's an entire "stop whining" thread for this conversation. This should be about celebrating our latest addition.
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C'mon guys, there's an entire "stop whining" thread for this conversation. This should be about celebrating our latest addition.
Thanks, was about to post the same thing. BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.
Welcome Harry! You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
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HAR-RY! FRO-LING! (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap)
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You are dating yourself...time to update your wall poster from last century, ai-na?
(http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/3306504/658full-jessica-gomes.jpg)
Photoshop is wonderful.
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Awesome news! Welcome to MU.
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Thanks, was about to post the same thing. BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.
Welcome Harry! You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
You can put it on the board....... YEEES! ;D
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You know what? That updated scholly table reminds me that fully 7 of our 11 players next year are underclassmen. Sign me up for a grad transfer. Senior leaders help.
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No truer words have been spoken...
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/410548/ELLE-MACPHERSON-NO-MAKEUP.jpg)
How about you put up an unretouched photo of your SO without makeup so we can all judge her?
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Everyone's has a quip or an insult, but nothing that amounts to a real rebuttal.
Look forward to a time (soon I hope) when this is no longer true.
You want me to make a "real rebuttal" to a guy with a history of shifting goalposts? Nah.
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My bride brings joy to my eyes whenever I see her, regardless of whether or not she has make up on.
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Thanks, was about to post the same thing. BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.
Welcome Harry! You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
Bravo to both items
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My bride brings joy to my eyes whenever I see her, regardless of whether or not she has make up on.
I am sure Elle's spouse feels the same way, and he would never rip on your wife.
She is 52 years old, FFS. I think she looks pretty damn good.
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Very well done to Wojo and staff. Next January will be the first time I'll feel like we have had a "complete" team in some time. Even if Harry and Ike aren't world beaters, they should be serviceable at their positions (i.e. no liabilities) and have reasonable backups. Getting a serviceable 5 to take over (or at least split) the duties with Heldt was the major missing piece for next year. With a stud backcourt, and at team that is balanced across years (i.e. has some real experience) we should be able to hang with most anyone.
I'm skeptical that Wojo has the ability to make a NCAA push this season, but I would be thrilled to be proven wrong. That being said, he'll have a roster that should complete in the upper 1/3rd of the BE next year - which would pretty much guarantee the dance. Cautiously optimistic he can do it - and I'll do my best to "respect the process" until then.
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You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.
Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry
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No truer words have been spoken...
When the one you linked gets her 5th SI Swimsuit cover we'll compare. Elle has aged pretty damn well.
(http://cdn.posh24.com/images/:complete/p/1554159/l/fashion_pictures/top_models_then_and_now.jpg)
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I am sure Elle's spouse feels the same way, and he would never rip on your wife.
She is 52 years old, FFS. I think she looks pretty damn good.
Agreed. I am on your side on this one.
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Think Harry sees himself as a stretch 4 (ala HE). Of course, that doesn't mean he won't play some center.
Regardless, a nice pick up for Wojo and the Warriors.
I think offensively he probably plays a stretch 4 type role, but defensively he will definitely be a 5....lets just hope he has/develops some lateral quickness
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Anybody named Samson is bound to be loved in Milwaukee.
LOL
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Thanks, was about to post the same thing. BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.
Welcome Harry! You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
Did you have a full scholarship table spreadsheet somewhere once that went back quite a few years? Is that still available?
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Agreed. I am on your side on this one.
I've got no beef with you, Tower. But nothing sticks in my craw more than some guy who denigrates a woman because she is a 9.95 instead of a 10.
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I've got no beef with you, Tower. But nothing sticks in my craw more than some guy who denigrates a woman because she is a 9.95 instead of a 10.
I agree. Particularly when the guy is a 3 on a good day when his combover is in place.
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I agree. Particularly when the guy is a 3 on a good day when his combover is in place.
HEY! I resemble that remark!
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I've got no beef with you, Tower. But nothing sticks in my craw more than some guy who denigrates a woman because she is a 9.95 instead of a 10.
FIFY ;D
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You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.
Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry
And so, I'll bring back my favorite nickname suggestion:
H-Bombers!
(Especially applies to Howard and Hauser, of course, because they are the prime suppliers of the H-Bombs!)
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And so, I'll bring back my favorite nickname suggestion:
H-Bombers!
(Especially applies to Howard and Hauser, of course, because they are the prime suppliers of the H-Bombs!)
Do we get to repurpose the Enola Gay pic??? (Yes, I know that was an A-bomb over Hiroshima.)
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My bride brings joy to my eyes whenever I see her, regardless of whether or not she has make up on.
Do you have one of those "I ❤️ My Wife" bumper stickers?
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No. I don't do kitsch. And she knows every day, so no need to advertise.
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I agree. Particularly when the guy is a 3 on a good day when his combover is in place.
Exactly. I was going to say something to that effect but I was trying to be nice. ::)
Most of you should probably be grateful that women aren't as visual as men. ;)
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Most of you should probably be grateful that women aren't as visual as men. ;)
I'll drink to that
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No. I don't do kitsch. And she knows every day, so no need to advertise.
That's beautiful. Really.
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Exactly. I was going to say something to that effect but I was trying to be nice. ::)
Most of you should probably be grateful that women aren't as visual as men. ;)
LOL, so true.
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Did you have a full scholarship table spreadsheet somewhere once that went back quite a few years? Is that still available?
Yes, though I haven't kept it up to date the past few years.
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Thanks, was about to post the same thing. BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.
Welcome Harry! You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
I love the scholarship table. It's one of my favorite things about MUScoop.
thanks
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I love the scholarship table. It's one of my favorite things about MUScoop.
thanks
Money well spent then.
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With the 2015 freshman class of five reduced to two next year as juniors after a one and done, transfer and redshirt, its nice to see this years freshman class picking up up couple to go from two to four as sophomores.
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Money well spent then.
Agreed. This monthly fee is worth it. Although Scoop should offer a groupon to get some new members.
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You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.
Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry
You have too much Time.
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You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.
Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry
HJ's!? :o
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HJ's!? :o
If this culminates in landing JH, I'd call that a happy ending.
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If this culminates in landing JH, I'd call that a happy ending.
This guy!
Well played!
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A recruit doesn't need to be "transformational" to be a good pickup.
Agreed with that comment fully. If we had 3 or 4 great power forwards and/or centers maybe we should feel differently. I think he will help us considerably and he may even develop a physical game at some point.
Wojo et. all. Should get kudos for the get!
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For those wondering, Samson would be in the class of 2018. Currently ranked #248 by 247 composite. Will say that international players are consistently under ranked by most recruiting services.
I wonder where Giannis was?
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I wonder where Giannis was?
Selling hats.
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You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.
Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry
This is a t-shirt that needs to be made.
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Great first game for Harry to see from courtside!
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HJ's!? :o
What about ZJs? Can we get one of those?
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Most of you should probably be grateful that women aren't as visual as men. ;)
Probably why I am still married!!!!!
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Looked for Harry on the bench, but, the tv cameras didn't show him.
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Saw him late in the game (or OT?). Someone from MU hit a three from the right side of the court. He stood up and cheered. He was seated next to Sacar on the bench.
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We're better than Wisconsin. They are all about 4H and we'll have 6.
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What about ZJs? Can we get one of those?
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
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Saw him late in the game (or OT?). Someone from MU hit a three from the right side of the court. He stood up and cheered. He was seated next to Sacar on the bench.
He was also out on the court with Sacar during shootaround before the game and at the half, as well as standing behind the team at every timeout. Looks like he's getting to know his new teammates already.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread but any updates about Sacar? What are the odds he stays? If he stays any guess what his role is likely to be?
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Don't mean to hijack the thread but any updates about Sacar? What are the odds he stays? If he stays any guess what his role is likely to be?
I think the chances of him being here next year are about 99.999%. Leaving would require another year sitting out.
What role do I see for him? I would guess that he would fit into the role that Duane plays now, but less minutes. It all depends on if Duane can start, how many minutes he plays, and how good the new guys are.
Now, I can forsee him leaving after his junior year on a grad transfer route if things don't work out. But that's quite awhile from now.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread but any updates about Sacar? What are the odds he stays? If he stays any guess what his role is likely to be?
I definitely think Sacar stays. If he left, he'd have to sit out again. Looking at the depth chart, he'll have the opportunity to earn minutes at the 2, 3, and depending on redshirt status, maybe the 4 if we play small.
Right now, I'd guess our starting 5 on November 10, 2017 are Howard, Duane, Cheatham, Hauser, and Heldt. At the middle three positions, Anim will be competing for minutes with Rowsey, Cain, and maybe John and (eventually) Froling. No reason to think he can't get some time in there as a third-year sophomore that likely knows the system better than at least three of those four.
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Wow, how quickly this thread digressed to Elle Mcpherson. Anyway, I think Harry brings more to this team. Honestly, I was a bit worried about Heldt being the only true big. Now we will have two big guys. A freshmen coming in John that plays huge.
It seems like not to long ago our team consisted of 6'6" (6'4" in real life) switchables that had to guard bigs and were overmatched in the BEAST. Now we have a pure freshman point guard that is higher level then anyone I've watched since who. . . Aaron Hutchins? Diener? We have a gem in Hauser that will get to move to the 3 but can play 4. We will have 2 good sized 5's . . .again. We are looking at some actual height and presence at the 4. We have 3 point shooters when prior we couldn't buy a 3 pointer but still chucked them anyway.
I'm good with this pick up and happy the direction of this program is going. Oh yeah, Elle was smoking back in the day!
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Im more excited about Theo than Cain right now. I think we end up with a grad transfer wing that may push Cain back.
I think that it will be a Heldt and Froling platoon when Froling is eligible with Sam and Theo at the 4, with Sam playing the 3 on occasion. Ike will redshirt.
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Now, I can forsee him leaving after his junior year on a grad transfer route if things don't work out. But that's quite awhile from now.
And if "things don't work out" it will likely be because Wojo keeps bringing in higher level talent. See: Levin, Cohen, Carter.
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And if "things don't work out" it will likely be because Wojo keeps bringing in higher level talent. See: Levin, Cohen, Carter.
Speaking of Carter, shouldn't he have made his transfer decision by now? I haven't seen anything.
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Wow, how quickly this thread digressed progressed to Elle Mcpherson.
FIFY
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Now we have a pure freshman point guard that is higher level then anyone I've watched since who. . . Aaron Hutchins? Diener?
What about Dominic James? At this point in career, pretty similar trajectory--DJ was the Big East Rookie of the Year. There was a lot of talk of him going into the draft after that freshman year, wasn't there?
Now, this isn't to say that Markus Howard won't end up being better than DJ long-term. Especially being only 17, seems the ceiling is very high. But right now, they seem to be on fairly equal footing.
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James was nowhere near this good offensively. Better defender though. (But Markus is better than I thought he would be.)
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And if "things don't work out" it will likely be because Wojo keeps bringing in higher level talent. See: Levin, Cohen, Carter.
The Levin one never made much sense to me. Did he really see Henry as his competition? There was clearly playing time and need for some size in the 4-5 position - especially after Henry. Cohen and Carter were at least behind 2 people. Levin would've been starting as a Junior and would have gotten plenty of playing time as a sophomore between Luke-Henry subbing off/moving around.
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The Levin one never made much sense to me. Did he really see Henry as his competition? There was clearly playing time and need for some size in the 4-5 position - especially after Henry. Cohen and Carter were at least behind 2 people. Levin would've been starting as a Junior and would have gotten plenty of playing time as a sophomore between Luke-Henry subbing off/moving around.
How many white kids out of Rice Lake go 1 and done? I think Kevin Love is the only white player to go one and done from college in the lottery ever. Might have only been the only one to go one and done period before Henry. As much as the staff assured Levin, Washington, Nichols, etc that Henry was going to end up leaving after his freshmen year, there were doubts.