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Title: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 10, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
Per Matt Velazquez:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/marquette/2017/01/10/smu-transfer-harry-froling-picks-marquette/96388088/

Per Evan Daniels:

http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1744762-harry-froling-transfer-marquette
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: geps on January 10, 2017, 06:05:16 PM
Bout time we got an INcoming transfer.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: 🏀 on January 10, 2017, 06:18:37 PM
Keep Froling, Froling, Froling.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 10, 2017, 06:22:46 PM
BYCRACKY!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: MuMark on January 10, 2017, 06:28:18 PM
Mind games...... 8-)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18447083/harry-froling-transferring-smu-mustangs-marquette-golden-eagles
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 10, 2017, 06:28:46 PM
Harry Froling ‏@HarryFroling  48s48 seconds ago
Excited to announce that I will be transferring to Marquette University! Excited to become a golden-eagle! 〽️

There you have it!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 10, 2017, 06:39:41 PM
Definitive enuff for me, anyway he can be instantly eligible?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: jsglow on January 10, 2017, 06:45:40 PM
Good deal.  Welcome Harry!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: bradley center bat on January 10, 2017, 06:46:13 PM
Pretty neat having Evan Daniels on the FS1 pre game show talking anout Froling.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 10, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
In reply to Harry Froling
Markus Howard ‏@markushoward11  18m18 minutes ago
@HarryFroling welcome to the family my guy! #mubb
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 10, 2017, 06:54:32 PM
Pretty neat having Evan Daniels on the FS1 pre game show talking anout Froling.

http://www.snappytv.com/tc/3648178

MU/Froling comments start at 1:00...
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on January 10, 2017, 06:55:48 PM
Definitive enuff for me, anyway he can be instantly eligible?

No.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: jutaw22mu on January 10, 2017, 06:58:37 PM
Woot!  Awesome news! Great job by Wojo et al, and welcome to Marquette, Harry!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: MU82 on January 10, 2017, 06:59:34 PM
Yet another failure by Wojo.

Just as the wins over Providence, Creighton, Butler, Wisconsin, LSU and Georgia didn't count, landing Henry, Markus, Hauser, Haani and now Froling don't count.

I mean, take away all of his recruits and he's a bad recruiter.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 10, 2017, 06:59:57 PM
Gotta be a good pickup. Not sure if it measures up to the hype. Have no meaningful evaluation of the kid - saw some video, he doesn't look exceptionally physical, but he has good bloodline. Definitely will help in practice. Just don't see this as transformational. All that said, here's hoping he has a very successful and productive stay at MU.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: naginiF on January 10, 2017, 07:07:38 PM
Yet another failure by Wojo.

Just as the wins over Providence, Creighton, Butler, Wisconsin, LSU and Georgia didn't count, landing Henry, Markus, Hauser, Haani and now Froling don't count.

I mean, take away all of his recruits and he's a bad recruiter.
Seriously?  if we now consider Oregon State our competition we are truly destined to remain at the bottom of the league.

Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on January 10, 2017, 07:09:18 PM
Gotta be a good pickup. Not sure if it measures up to the hype. Have no meaningful evaluation of the kid - saw some video, he doesn't look exceptionally physical, but he has good bloodline. Definitely will help in practice. Just don't see this as transformational. All that said, here's hoping he has a very successful and productive stay at MU.

A recruit doesn't need to be "transformational" to be a good pickup.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: jsglow on January 10, 2017, 07:09:47 PM
Gotta be a good pickup. Not sure if it measures up to the hype. Have no meaningful evaluation of the kid - saw some video, he doesn't look exceptionally physical, but he has good bloodline. Definitely will help in practice. Just don't see this as transformational. All that said, here's hoping he has a very successful and productive stay at MU.

Wow.  We're complaining about 4 star 6' 11" centers.  Between Harry and Matt we've got the 5 spot covered for the next 2 years.  Terrible.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 10, 2017, 07:10:47 PM
Bout time we got an INcoming transfer.

The last mid-season INcoming transfer - Luke

The last over the summer INcoming Transfer - Rowsey

The last INcoming Grad Transfer - Reinhart

Yeah, we never get any.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: GGGG on January 10, 2017, 07:13:03 PM
The last one was Luke


Spot on....if you ignore Matt Carlino, Gabe Levin, Wally Ellenson, Andrew Rowsey and Katin Reinhardt. 
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 10, 2017, 07:14:27 PM
Interestingly:

Harry's "little brother" (6'10") Samson is 16 and made an Aussie under 19 team.
http://www.eurobasket.com/Top-Prospects/basketball.asp

Harry's sister Alicia is a forward on the SMU women's team.  She has a twin sister, Keely, who had attended SMU and now plays professionally in the WNBL for the Canberra Capitals.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on January 10, 2017, 07:14:52 PM

Spot on....if you ignore Matt Carlino, Gabe Levin, Wally Ellenson, Andrew Rowsey and Katin Reinhardt.

Lol.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: GGGG on January 10, 2017, 07:17:28 PM
Interestingly:

Harry's "little brother" (6'10") Samson is 16 and made an Aussie under 19 team.
http://www.eurobasket.com/Top-Prospects/basketball.asp

Harry's sister Alicia is a forward on the SMU women's team.  She has a twin sister, Keely, who had attended SMU and now plays professionally in the WNBL for the Canberra Capitals.



Anybody named Samson is bound to be loved in Milwaukee.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 10, 2017, 07:19:53 PM
Interestingly:

Harry's "little brother" (6'10") Samson is 16 and made an Aussie under 19 team.
http://www.eurobasket.com/Top-Prospects/basketball.asp

Harry's sister Alicia is a forward on the SMU women's team.  She has a twin sister, Keely, who had attended SMU and now plays professionally in the WNBL for the Canberra Capitals.

For those wondering, Samson would be in the class of 2018. Currently ranked #248 by 247 composite. Will say that international players are consistently under ranked by most recruiting services.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 10, 2017, 07:23:25 PM
Mind games...... 8-)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18447083/harry-froling-transferring-smu-mustangs-marquette-golden-eagles

Quote
"Another thing that really attracted me to Marquette was the Henry Ellenson situation," said Froling, referring to the former Golden Eagles big man who became a first-round NBA draft pick. "I know I'm not Henry, but we do have some similar attributes and the way Coach demonstrated how he changes the offense and plays to his team was awesome. As long as I hold up my end of the bargain and give it my all, there's no reason I don't see myself playing a huge role in the success of Marquette in the near and distant future."

I think someone mentioned that Henry was going to be a huge selling point for young Mr. Froling. Also, if I understand the rules correctly, this wouldn't have been possible without Wally's departure. How about that, the American with an Australian sounding name made room for the Australian with an American sounding name. Wally's twitter handle is also the Kangaroo Kid....which makes it even better.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 10, 2017, 07:30:18 PM
Was always impressed by the Aussie players on St. Marys and Gonzaga over the years.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 10, 2017, 07:30:58 PM
Was always impressed by the Aussie players on St. Marys and Gonzaga over the years.

and Andrew Gaze
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 10, 2017, 07:34:00 PM
Andrew Bogut at Utah...
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: muguru on January 10, 2017, 07:36:31 PM
Yet another failure by Wojo.

Just as the wins over Providence, Creighton, Butler, Wisconsin, LSU and Georgia didn't count, landing Henry, Markus, Hauser, Haani and now Froling don't count.

I mean, take away all of his recruits and he's a bad recruiter.

So tell me...how big were those wins anyway?? certainly helped get MU in the tourney didn't they?? Sad that for most here, those are considered good wins..Those are games the marquette program should be EXPECTED to win. Not exactly UNC, kentucky, and Duke.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 10, 2017, 07:36:43 PM
Elle Macpherson, hey?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Marcus92 on January 10, 2017, 07:37:12 PM
Great news. Welcome to Marquette. One more needed piece in place for next season. If competing against Luke for 1-1/2 years has helped Matt improve his game, we should expect more of the same with Harry.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: GGGG on January 10, 2017, 07:38:02 PM
and Andrew Gaze


Andrew Gaze is 50 years old.

How about Patty Mills, Dante Exum or Ben Simmons?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: muguru on January 10, 2017, 07:40:56 PM

Andrew Gaze is 50 years old.

How about Patty Mills, Dante Exum or Ben Simmons?

Dellavodova and Thon Maker(who I'm sure played a big part in his decision to come to MU).
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Marcus92 on January 10, 2017, 07:41:41 PM
Not exactly UNC, kentucky, and Duke.

I know we'd all like to get back to that level. But come on — since 1977, Marquette has made exactly 1 Final Four appearance. Duke alone has been to 12. Do you really think comparing the two programs is realistic?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 10, 2017, 07:50:59 PM

Anybody named Samson is bound to be loved in Milwaukee.
Definitely a cager
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 10, 2017, 07:53:42 PM
Haven't seen this yet:

(http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif)
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: muguru on January 10, 2017, 07:54:47 PM
I know we'd all like to get back to that level. But come on — since 1977, Marquette has made exactly 1 Final Four appearance. Duke alone has been to 12. Do you really think comparing the two programs is realistic?

You missed my point, I meant beating Providence, Butler, UW etc is not like beating Kentucky, UNC, or Duke.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Earl Tatum on January 10, 2017, 07:57:03 PM
Any chance of recruiting Elle Macpherson at the point or wing?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Skitch on January 10, 2017, 08:00:24 PM

Anybody named Samson is bound to be loved in Milwaukee.

Hopefully this one doesn't make me crap my pants like the original did when I was a kid.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on January 10, 2017, 08:05:06 PM
You missed my point, I meant beating Providence, Butler, UW etc is not like beating Kentucky, UNC, or Duke.

Considering UW and Butler have both been to one national title game and another Final Four in the last decade I'd say those programs have been fairly successful and wins against them are pretty big wins.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: GGGG on January 10, 2017, 08:08:06 PM
You missed my point, I meant beating Providence, Butler, UW etc is not like beating Kentucky, UNC, or Duke.


IF, you contend that Wojo has not had any good wins at Marquette, and
IF, Providence, Butler and UW aren't good wins because they aren't like beating Kentucky, UNC or Duke,
THEN Buzz didn't have any "good wins" either.

Look, you just have to understand that beating a top 10 Providence team on the road is a "good win."  It may not excite you like a win over Duke, UNC or Kentucky, but it is a good win.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on January 10, 2017, 08:09:23 PM

IF, you contend that Wojo has not had any good wins at Marquette, and
IF, Providence, Butler and UW aren't good wins because they aren't like beating Kentucky, UNC or Duke,
THEN Buzz didn't have any "good wins" either.

Look, you just have to understand that beating a top 10 Providence team on the road is a "good win."  It may not excite you like a win over Duke, UNC or Kentucky, but it is a good win.

Also true.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 10, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
Wow.  We're complaining about 4 star 6' 11" centers.  Between Harry and Matt we've got the 5 spot covered for the next 2 years.  Terrible.

Think Harry sees himself as a stretch 4 (ala HE). Of course, that doesn't mean he won't play some center.

Regardless, a nice pick up for Wojo and the Warriors.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on January 10, 2017, 08:14:27 PM
Smoke and mirrors leads to manna from Heaven!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: MuMark on January 10, 2017, 08:14:47 PM
As I recall when Buzz had a team with Crowder, Butler and DJO he was down 30 at the half against UNC before losing by about 13?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 10, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
put another shrimp on the barby, ey?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 10, 2017, 08:24:33 PM
Gotta be a good pickup. Not sure if it measures up to the hype. Have no meaningful evaluation of the kid - saw some video, he doesn't look exceptionally physical, but he has good bloodline. Definitely will help in practice. Just don't see this as transformational. All that said, here's hoping he has a very successful and productive stay at MU.

Does your last sentence mean you will be happy if your assessment is wrong?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: MarquetteDano on January 10, 2017, 08:26:15 PM
put another shrimp on the barby, ey?

Now that we have an Aussie you have to use the Down Unda lingo.... Prawns on the Barbie.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: jsglow on January 10, 2017, 08:29:38 PM
Think Harry sees himself as a stretch 4 (ala HE). Of course, that doesn't mean he won't play some center.

Regardless, a nice pick up for Wojo and the Warriors.

That may be true.  Nice to have 4 big bodies to cover the two slots.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 10, 2017, 08:31:17 PM
(https://www.vistax64.com/attachments/chillout-room/8859d1230143088-jumpin-jehosophat-ive-got-snake-my-pc-shrimp-jpg)
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Newsdreams on January 10, 2017, 08:42:10 PM
I think someone mentioned that Henry was going to be a huge selling point for young Mr. Froling. Also, if I understand the rules correctly, this wouldn't have been possible without Wally's departure. How about that, the American with an Australian sounding name made room for the Australian with an American sounding name. Wally's twitter handle is also the Kangaroo Kid....which makes it even better.
Smoke & mirrors, hey?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on January 10, 2017, 08:42:36 PM
Elle Macpherson, hey?

(http://media.vogue.com/r/w_280/2015/06/26/elle-macpherson-sports-illustrated.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/88/8c/85/888c857b349b9b3762a19a26ae524783.jpg)

are wet t-shirts allowed on scoop?   :o
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Nostradamus on January 10, 2017, 08:49:39 PM

IF, you contend that Wojo has not had any good wins at Marquette, and
IF, Providence, Butler and UW aren't good wins because they aren't like beating Kentucky, UNC or Duke,
THEN Buzz didn't have any "good wins" either.

Look, you just have to understand that beating a top 10 Providence team on the road is a "good win."  It may not excite you like a win over Duke, UNC or Kentucky, but it is a good win.

Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year.  Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy?  Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?

So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era:  The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game.  At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.

I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina.  Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams. 
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Newsdreams on January 10, 2017, 08:52:12 PM
Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year.  Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy?  Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?

So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era:  The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game.  At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.

I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina.  Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams.
Can you dunk?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: jesmu84 on January 10, 2017, 09:01:20 PM
Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year.  Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy?  Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?

So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era:  The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game.  At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.

I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina.  Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams.

I wonder if we still had Derrick, would we have beaten a "legitimate" Top 25 team multiple times
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: NickelDimer on January 10, 2017, 09:10:55 PM
Hopefully this one doesn't make me crap my pants like the original did when I was a kid.
Hahaha so true
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on January 10, 2017, 09:14:44 PM
Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year.  Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy?  Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?

So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era:  The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game.  At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.

I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina.  Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams.

So wait.  Which is it?  Are we going to look at the team's ranking and record when we beat them, or are we going to look at what their season became?  You can't have it both ways...
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: warriorchick on January 10, 2017, 09:20:34 PM
Hopefully this one doesn't make me crap my pants like the original did when I was a kid.

I thought I was the only one...although I was a sophomore in college when it happened to me.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 10, 2017, 09:23:48 PM
Elle Macpherson, hey?

You are dating yourself...time to update your wall poster from last century, ai-na?

(http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/3306504/658full-jessica-gomes.jpg)
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 10, 2017, 09:25:14 PM
So wait.  Which is it?  Are we going to look at the team's ranking and record when we beat them, or are we going to look at what their season became?  You can't have it both ways...

SOP for NERS
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 10, 2017, 09:28:40 PM
You are dating yourself...time to update your wall poster from last century, ai-na?

(http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/3306504/658full-jessica-gomes.jpg)
Not remotely in the same league as Elle
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 10, 2017, 09:35:54 PM
Not remotely in the same league as Elle

No truer words have been spoken...

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/410548/ELLE-MACPHERSON-NO-MAKEUP.jpg)
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: chapman on January 10, 2017, 09:44:51 PM
Quote
"It is going to be a very hard and challenging experience and I believe that's what I need to take my game to the next level, no more just getting by the way I have for the last 18 years.”

This was his reaction after seeing snow for the first time this weekend, right?  ;D
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 10, 2017, 09:49:46 PM
Ultimately, the Providence team referenced, and the LSU team referenced (prior) simply weren't Top 25 teams that year.  Do we really want to pride ourselves on beating a way overrated LSU team in November when they were ranked 23 when they finished 95th in Pomeroy?  Or Providence when they were overrated at 10, when they finished 44th in the country?

So far, we have 1 win over an end of season Top 25 team in the Wojo era:  The win over the scuffling Badgers (who were coming off a home loss to UWM,) in Bo Ryan's last game.  At the time of that game, if you want to play that game, the Badgers were rated 38 in Pomeroy.

I understand we have been relegated to grasping for straws the past three seasons, yet let's not sensationalize the reality and try to suggest we are looking for wins over traditional blue bloods such as Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina.  Think most here just want to see a few wins over legitimate Top 25 teams.

Everyone's has a quip or an insult, but nothing that amounts to a real rebuttal.

Look forward to a time (soon I hope) when this is no longer true.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: MU82 on January 10, 2017, 10:02:23 PM
You missed my point, I meant beating Providence, Butler, UW etc is not like beating Kentucky, UNC, or Duke.

Now there's proof that Wojo sucks! In 2 1/2 seasons at Marquette, he hasn't been able to beat Kentucky, UNC or Duke.

The fact that Marquette hasn't played Kentucky, UNC or Duke ... just a minor annoyance. Wojo shoulda beaten them anyway!

And did it ever dawn on you that one reason Providence wasn't ranked at the end of the season was that they lost twice to Marquette?

Get a life, buddy, I'm worried about you. It's just basketball. Find a human to hug.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on January 10, 2017, 10:03:22 PM
SOP for NERS

Oh joy.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 10, 2017, 10:13:58 PM
Smoke and mirrors leads to manna from Heaven!

Nice
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 10, 2017, 10:15:34 PM
C'mon guys, there's an entire "stop whining" thread for this conversation. This should be about celebrating our latest addition.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 10, 2017, 10:17:14 PM
C'mon guys, there's an entire "stop whining" thread for this conversation. This should be about celebrating our latest addition.

Thanks, was about to post the same thing.  BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.

Welcome Harry!  You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: MU82 on January 10, 2017, 10:47:03 PM
HAR-RY! FRO-LING! (clap, clap, clap-clap-clap)
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: brandx on January 10, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
You are dating yourself...time to update your wall poster from last century, ai-na?

(http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/3306504/658full-jessica-gomes.jpg)

Photoshop is wonderful.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 11, 2017, 06:38:43 AM
Awesome news!  Welcome to MU.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: jsglow on January 11, 2017, 06:48:34 AM
Thanks, was about to post the same thing.  BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.

Welcome Harry!  You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655

You can put it on the board....... YEEES!  ;D
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: jsglow on January 11, 2017, 06:56:49 AM
You know what?  That updated scholly table reminds me that fully 7 of our 11 players next year are underclassmen.  Sign me up for a grad transfer. Senior leaders help.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: warriorchick on January 11, 2017, 07:09:20 AM
No truer words have been spoken...

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/410548/ELLE-MACPHERSON-NO-MAKEUP.jpg)



How about you put up an unretouched photo of your SO without makeup so we can all judge her?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: GGGG on January 11, 2017, 07:35:20 AM
Everyone's has a quip or an insult, but nothing that amounts to a real rebuttal.

Look forward to a time (soon I hope) when this is no longer true.


You want me to make a "real rebuttal" to a guy with a history of shifting goalposts?  Nah.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: tower912 on January 11, 2017, 07:36:49 AM

My bride brings joy to my eyes whenever I see her, regardless of whether or not she has make up on. 
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 11, 2017, 07:47:20 AM
Thanks, was about to post the same thing.  BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.

Welcome Harry!  You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655
Bravo to both items
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: warriorchick on January 11, 2017, 08:03:00 AM
My bride brings joy to my eyes whenever I see her, regardless of whether or not she has make up on.

I am sure Elle's spouse feels the same way, and he would never rip on your wife.

She is 52 years old, FFS.  I think she looks pretty damn good.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: 1SE on January 11, 2017, 08:07:44 AM
Very well done to Wojo and staff. Next January will be the first time I'll feel like we have had a "complete" team in some time. Even if Harry and Ike aren't world beaters, they should be serviceable at their positions (i.e. no liabilities) and have reasonable backups. Getting a serviceable 5 to take over (or at least split) the duties with Heldt was the major missing piece for next year. With a stud backcourt, and at team that is balanced across years (i.e. has some real experience) we should be able to hang with most anyone.

I'm skeptical that Wojo has the ability to make a NCAA push this season, but I would be thrilled to be proven wrong. That being said, he'll have a roster that should complete in the upper 1/3rd of the BE next year - which would pretty much guarantee the dance. Cautiously optimistic he can do it - and I'll do my best to "respect the process" until then.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 11, 2017, 08:13:38 AM
You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.

Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 11, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
No truer words have been spoken...
When the one you linked gets her 5th SI Swimsuit cover we'll compare.  Elle has aged pretty damn well.
(http://cdn.posh24.com/images/:complete/p/1554159/l/fashion_pictures/top_models_then_and_now.jpg)
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: tower912 on January 11, 2017, 08:21:14 AM
I am sure Elle's spouse feels the same way, and he would never rip on your wife.

She is 52 years old, FFS.  I think she looks pretty damn good.

Agreed.   I am on your side on this one.     
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: mu03eng on January 11, 2017, 08:22:03 AM
Think Harry sees himself as a stretch 4 (ala HE). Of course, that doesn't mean he won't play some center.

Regardless, a nice pick up for Wojo and the Warriors.

I think offensively he probably plays a stretch 4 type role, but defensively he will definitely be a 5....lets just hope he has/develops some lateral quickness
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: LloydsLegs on January 11, 2017, 08:29:51 AM

Anybody named Samson is bound to be loved in Milwaukee.

LOL
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TallTitan34 on January 11, 2017, 08:45:20 AM
Thanks, was about to post the same thing.  BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.

Welcome Harry!  You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655

Did you have a full scholarship table spreadsheet somewhere once that went back quite a few years?  Is that still available?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: warriorchick on January 11, 2017, 09:24:58 AM
Agreed.   I am on your side on this one.   

I've got no beef with you, Tower.  But nothing sticks in my craw more than some guy who denigrates a woman because she is a 9.95 instead of a 10.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: tower912 on January 11, 2017, 09:26:37 AM
I've got no beef with you, Tower.  But nothing sticks in my craw more than some guy who denigrates a woman because she is a 9.95 instead of a 10.
I agree.   Particularly when the guy is a 3 on a good day when his combover is in place. 
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: mu03eng on January 11, 2017, 09:27:57 AM
I agree.   Particularly when the guy is a 3 on a good day when his combover is in place.

HEY! I resemble that remark!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: mu03eng on January 11, 2017, 09:28:53 AM
I've got no beef with you, Tower.  But nothing sticks in my craw more than some guy who denigrates a woman because she is a 9.95 instead of a 10.

FIFY  ;D
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: MU82 on January 11, 2017, 10:04:48 AM
You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.

Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry

And so, I'll bring back my favorite nickname suggestion:

H-Bombers!

(Especially applies to Howard and Hauser, of course, because they are the prime suppliers of the H-Bombs!)
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: GGGG on January 11, 2017, 10:09:59 AM
And so, I'll bring back my favorite nickname suggestion:

H-Bombers!

(Especially applies to Howard and Hauser, of course, because they are the prime suppliers of the H-Bombs!)



Do we get to repurpose the Enola Gay pic???  (Yes, I know that was an A-bomb over Hiroshima.)
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: We R Final Four on January 11, 2017, 10:15:06 AM
My bride brings joy to my eyes whenever I see her, regardless of whether or not she has make up on.
Do you have one of those "I ❤️ My Wife" bumper stickers?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: tower912 on January 11, 2017, 10:20:47 AM
No.   I don't do kitsch.   And she knows every day, so no need to advertise. 
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: warriorchick on January 11, 2017, 10:23:58 AM
I agree.   Particularly when the guy is a 3 on a good day when his combover is in place.

Exactly.  I was going to say something to that effect but I was trying to be nice.   ::)

Most of you should probably be grateful that women aren't as visual as men.  ;)
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 11, 2017, 10:36:42 AM
Most of you should probably be grateful that women aren't as visual as men.  ;)

I'll drink to that
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: We R Final Four on January 11, 2017, 10:52:06 AM
No.   I don't do kitsch.   And she knows every day, so no need to advertise.
That's beautiful. Really.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Dawson Rental on January 11, 2017, 11:50:23 AM
Exactly.  I was going to say something to that effect but I was trying to be nice.   ::)

Most of you should probably be grateful that women aren't as visual as men.  ;)

LOL, so true.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: rocky_warrior on January 11, 2017, 11:52:39 AM
Did you have a full scholarship table spreadsheet somewhere once that went back quite a few years?  Is that still available?

Yes, though I haven't kept it up to date the past few years.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 11, 2017, 11:56:57 AM
Thanks, was about to post the same thing.  BTW, don't expect to hear a response from Ners.

Welcome Harry!  You're on the scholarship table!
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=page4655

I love the scholarship table. It's one of my favorite things about MUScoop.

thanks
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: mu03eng on January 11, 2017, 11:59:17 AM
I love the scholarship table. It's one of my favorite things about MUScoop.

thanks

Money well spent then.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Dawson Rental on January 11, 2017, 12:01:45 PM
With the 2015 freshman class of five reduced to two next year as juniors after  a one and done, transfer and redshirt, its nice to see this years freshman class picking up up couple to go from two to four as sophomores.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: fjm on January 11, 2017, 01:00:21 PM
Money well spent then.

Agreed. This monthly fee is worth it. Although Scoop should offer a groupon to get some new members.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 11, 2017, 01:55:17 PM
You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.

Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry

You have too much Time.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: fjm on January 11, 2017, 01:59:53 PM
You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.

Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry

HJ's!?  :o
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: mikekinsellaMVP on January 11, 2017, 02:26:57 PM
HJ's!?  :o

If this culminates in landing JH, I'd call that a happy ending.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: fjm on January 11, 2017, 02:58:21 PM
If this culminates in landing JH, I'd call that a happy ending.

This guy!
Well played!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Class71 on January 11, 2017, 05:41:16 PM
A recruit doesn't need to be "transformational" to be a good pickup.

Agreed with that comment fully. If we had 3 or 4 great power forwards and/or centers maybe we should feel differently. I think he will help us considerably and he may even develop a physical game at some point.

Wojo et. all. Should get kudos for the get!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: MUBigDance on January 11, 2017, 10:14:03 PM
For those wondering, Samson would be in the class of 2018. Currently ranked #248 by 247 composite. Will say that international players are consistently under ranked by most recruiting services.

I wonder where Giannis was?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: wadesworld on January 11, 2017, 11:01:08 PM
I wonder where Giannis was?

Selling hats.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: 77ncaachamps on January 12, 2017, 01:45:22 AM
You know, we should have known this was in the bag right away. Wojo just building his army of Hs and Js.

Henry
Haanie
Heldt
Howard
Hauser
Harry

This is a t-shirt that needs to be made.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 12, 2017, 08:05:13 AM
Great first game for Harry to see from courtside!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: mu03eng on January 12, 2017, 08:12:37 AM
HJ's!?  :o

What about ZJs? Can we get one of those?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: dgies9156 on January 12, 2017, 08:23:05 AM
Most of you should probably be grateful that women aren't as visual as men.  ;)

Probably why I am still married!!!!!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on January 12, 2017, 08:59:03 AM
Looked for Harry on the bench, but, the tv cameras didn't show him.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on January 12, 2017, 09:01:42 AM
Saw him late in the game (or OT?).  Someone from MU hit a three from the right side of the court.  He stood up and cheered.  He was seated next to Sacar on the bench.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: tower912 on January 12, 2017, 09:32:12 AM
We're better than Wisconsin.   They are all about 4H and we'll have 6. 
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Cooby Snacks on January 12, 2017, 09:42:55 AM
What about ZJs? Can we get one of those?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Marcus92 on January 12, 2017, 10:00:24 AM
Saw him late in the game (or OT?).  Someone from MU hit a three from the right side of the court.  He stood up and cheered.  He was seated next to Sacar on the bench.

He was also out on the court with Sacar during shootaround before the game and at the half, as well as standing behind the team at every timeout. Looks like he's getting to know his new teammates already.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: manny31 on January 12, 2017, 10:09:26 AM
Don't mean to hijack the thread but any updates about Sacar? What are the odds he stays? If he stays any guess what his role is likely to be?
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: GGGG on January 12, 2017, 10:13:13 AM
Don't mean to hijack the thread but any updates about Sacar? What are the odds he stays? If he stays any guess what his role is likely to be?


I think the chances of him being here next year are about 99.999%.  Leaving would require another year sitting out.

What role do I see for him?  I would guess that he would fit into the role that Duane plays now, but less minutes.  It all depends on if Duane can start, how many minutes he plays, and how good the new guys are.

Now, I can forsee him leaving after his junior year on a grad transfer route if things don't work out.  But that's quite awhile from now.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: brewcity77 on January 12, 2017, 10:15:48 AM
Don't mean to hijack the thread but any updates about Sacar? What are the odds he stays? If he stays any guess what his role is likely to be?

I definitely think Sacar stays. If he left, he'd have to sit out again. Looking at the depth chart, he'll have the opportunity to earn minutes at the 2, 3, and depending on redshirt status, maybe the 4 if we play small.

Right now, I'd guess our starting 5 on November 10, 2017 are Howard, Duane, Cheatham, Hauser, and Heldt. At the middle three positions, Anim will be competing for minutes with Rowsey, Cain, and maybe John and (eventually) Froling. No reason to think he can't get some time in there as a third-year sophomore that likely knows the system better than at least three of those four.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: lohaus on January 12, 2017, 10:19:03 AM
Wow, how quickly this thread digressed to Elle Mcpherson.  Anyway, I think Harry brings more to this team.  Honestly, I was a bit worried about Heldt being the only true big.  Now we will have two big guys.  A freshmen coming in John that plays huge.

It seems like not to long ago our team consisted of 6'6" (6'4" in real life) switchables that had to guard bigs and were overmatched in the BEAST.  Now we have a pure freshman point guard that is higher level then anyone I've watched since who. . . Aaron Hutchins? Diener?  We have a gem in Hauser that will get to move to the 3 but can play 4.  We will have 2 good sized 5's . . .again.  We are looking at some actual height and presence at the 4.  We have 3 point shooters when prior we couldn't buy a 3 pointer but still chucked them anyway.

I'm good with this pick up and happy the direction of this program is going.  Oh yeah, Elle was smoking back in the day!
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 12, 2017, 10:20:41 AM
Im more excited about Theo than Cain right now. I think we end up with a grad transfer wing that may push Cain back.

I think that it will be a Heldt and Froling platoon when Froling is eligible with Sam and Theo at the 4, with Sam playing the 3 on occasion. Ike will redshirt.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 12, 2017, 10:38:10 AM
Now, I can forsee him leaving after his junior year on a grad transfer route if things don't work out.  But that's quite awhile from now.
And if "things don't work out" it will likely be because Wojo keeps bringing in higher level talent.  See: Levin, Cohen, Carter.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: KampusFoods on January 12, 2017, 10:39:58 AM
And if "things don't work out" it will likely be because Wojo keeps bringing in higher level talent.  See: Levin, Cohen, Carter.

Speaking of Carter, shouldn't he have made his transfer decision by now? I haven't seen anything.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 12, 2017, 10:40:52 AM
Wow, how quickly this thread digressed progressed to Elle Mcpherson. 

FIFY
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: MUMountin on January 12, 2017, 11:14:48 AM
Now we have a pure freshman point guard that is higher level then anyone I've watched since who. . . Aaron Hutchins? Diener?

What about Dominic James?  At this point in career, pretty similar trajectory--DJ was the Big East Rookie of the Year.  There was a lot of talk of him going into the draft after that freshman year, wasn't there?

Now, this isn't to say that Markus Howard won't end up being better than DJ long-term.  Especially being only 17, seems the ceiling is very high.  But right now, they seem to be on fairly equal footing.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: GGGG on January 12, 2017, 11:19:28 AM
James was nowhere near this good offensively.  Better defender though.  (But Markus is better than I thought he would be.)

Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: Aughnanure on January 12, 2017, 11:21:23 AM
And if "things don't work out" it will likely be because Wojo keeps bringing in higher level talent.  See: Levin, Cohen, Carter.

The Levin one never made much sense to me. Did he really see Henry as his competition? There was clearly playing time and need for some size in the 4-5 position - especially after Henry. Cohen and Carter were at least behind 2 people. Levin would've been starting as a Junior and would have gotten plenty of playing time as a sophomore between Luke-Henry subbing off/moving around.
Title: Re: SMU transfer Harry Froling picks Marquette
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 12, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
The Levin one never made much sense to me. Did he really see Henry as his competition? There was clearly playing time and need for some size in the 4-5 position - especially after Henry. Cohen and Carter were at least behind 2 people. Levin would've been starting as a Junior and would have gotten plenty of playing time as a sophomore between Luke-Henry subbing off/moving around.

How many white kids out of Rice Lake go 1 and done? I think Kevin Love is the only white player to go one and done from college in the lottery ever. Might have only been the only one to go one and done period before Henry. As much as the staff assured Levin, Washington, Nichols, etc that Henry was going to end up leaving after his freshmen year, there were doubts.