MarquetteMBB @MarquetteMBB 1m1 minute ago
#mubb will begin daily announcement of non-league schedule today with exhibition game, concluding July 16. Season tickets on sale July 18!
I cannot believe that they still think this is a good idea when 2/3 of the opponents are basically crap, and we already know about the other 1/3. Maybe this year we'll get all excited about a Stetson game in January again! Good times!!!
Just announce the whole damn thing.
Waiting with baited breath to see if Chitown is right about that exhibition!
Quote from: jsglow on July 05, 2016, 09:36:06 AM
Waiting with baited breath to see if Chitown is right about that exhibition!
There's magic in the air!!!
Quote from: jsglow on July 05, 2016, 09:36:06 AM
Waiting with baited breath to see if Chitown is right about that exhibition!
He was kind of right! Rockhurst, but at the BC on 11/7
Rockhurst?
How about that Soviet team, haven't seen them in decades for some reason. 8-)
I could not agree more. This method of announcing the schedule is dumb. 8/13 opponents are set or virtually known. Vanderbilt, Wisconsin, Georgia, Fresno State, two of Michigan/Pitt/SMU and two of Eastern Michigan/IUPUI/Gardner-Webb/Howard. Anyone who checks the MU Basketball Twitter daily knows this.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 05, 2016, 09:30:19 AM
MarquetteMBB @MarquetteMBB 1m1 minute ago
#mubb will begin daily announcement of non-league schedule today with exhibition game, concluding July 16. Season tickets on sale July 18!
I cannot believe that they still think this is a good idea when 2/3 of the opponents are basically crap, and we already know about the other 1/3. Maybe this year we'll get all excited about a Stetson game in January again! Good times!!!
Just announce the whole damn thing.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is the worst tradition in sports. I cannot understand who thinks this is a good idea.
I mentioned this idea elsewhere:
Day 1: Announce Thanksgiving tournament
Day 2: Announce Wisconsin date
Day 3: Announce other major opponents
Day 4: Announce the exhibition and buy-games.
Day 5: Mention conference opponents (dates not set yet) and recap.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/d34ca8f99d6e405769998bfa4df32e56/tumblr_n8qq8l1WMJ1ssqxwho1_500.gif)
This screams "we signed up another set pansies in order to claim another 20 win season". When the majority of the Big East has released their OOC schedule over a month before MU, this makes MUAD look really, really lame. Hell, DePaul has already figured this one out.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 05, 2016, 11:34:49 AM
This screams "we signed up another set pansies in order to claim another 20 win season". When the majority of the Big East has released their OOC schedule over a month before MU, this makes MUAD look really, really lame. Hell, DePaul has already figured this one out.
It screams more of "it's early July and there's nothing better to complain about."
If the schedule sucks, by all means gripe.
But getting pissy over how the schedule is released is silly, at best.
(IMO .... you're all free to get pissy over whatever you choose, of course)
Quote from: Pakuni on July 05, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
It screams more of "it's early July and there's nothing better to complain about."
If the schedule sucks, by all means gripe.
But getting pissy over how the schedule is released is silly, at best.
(IMO .... you're all free to get pissy over whatever you choose, of course)
I agree with this statement. Whether the schedule is released all at once or one game at a time really makes no difference. It does allow us time to discuss the merits of each game. however, I would prefer that they release it all at once
Quote from: bilsu on July 05, 2016, 12:02:19 PM
I agree with this statement. Whether the schedule is released all at once or one game at a time really makes no difference. It does allow us time to discuss the merits of each game. however, I would prefer that they release it all at once
Those Grambling discussions can be scintillating.... ;)
Marquette is trying to build anticipation for ticket purchases.....this ain't gonna do it and it just irritates the rabid fanbase. Having said that, it is a summer problem that has little actual value as a discussion.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 05, 2016, 11:34:49 AM
This screams "we signed up another set pansies in order to claim another 20 win season". When the majority of the Big East has released their OOC schedule over a month before MU, this makes MUAD look really, really lame. Hell, DePaul has already figured this one out.
Referencing your first sentence, what makes you say that? We already have Vanderbilt, Wisconsin, Georgia and 2 of Pitt/SMU/Michigan on the schedule. As long as the buy games are better, it's a pretty good schedule. Fresno State is a really good start.
I do agree that the announcement method is really lame.
Quote from: Pakuni on July 05, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
It screams more of "it's early July and there's nothing better to complain about."
If the schedule sucks, by all means gripe.
But getting pissy over how the schedule is released is silly, at best.
(IMO .... you're all free to get pissy over whatever you choose, of course)
I'm getting pissy because this is what I do for a living and my alma mater SUCKS at it.
Quote from: RKMU123 on July 05, 2016, 09:49:15 AM
He was kind of right! Rockhurst, but at the BC on 11/7
Ah well, that's what you get when you get your info from someone who doesn't actually make the schedule. Still though, getting Rockhurst right is still pretty good.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 05, 2016, 12:31:07 PM
I'm getting pissy because this is what I do for a living and my alma mater SUCKS at it.
This is a good point....this is more of the recurring silliness that is MU PR efforts.
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 05, 2016, 12:04:27 PM
Those Grambling discussions can be scintillating.... ;)
Rockhurst is evil and must be destroyed?
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on July 05, 2016, 10:04:05 AM
Rockhurst?
How about that Soviet team, haven't seen them in decades for some reason. 8-)
Whatever happened to Marathon Oil? Or Athletes in Action for God's sake?
This country used to be great.
Quote from: jsglow on July 05, 2016, 12:46:16 PM
Rockhurst is evil and must be destroyed?
Absolutely, any time you can destroy a privileged high school from suburban Kansas City, you gotta do it.
Quote from: keefe on July 05, 2016, 01:10:35 PM
Whatever happened to Marathon Oil? Or Athletes in Action for God's sake?
This country used to be great.
Spartak
Great, we can bitch about this again. It signs like the rite of July at MU, to bitch not only about the schedule but how it is released. While we can speculate that it is done for pr reasons, or to drum up fan support, here is something that you should take into consideration. First, the schedule is not completed for next year.
The Big East controls the scheduling of conference games, so while we know who our opponents are, we won't know when they will be played.
Secondly, MU like Georgetown, play all of their games in an NBA arena, so availability of the arena to schedule is tougher for us than most Big East teams, including St. John's and Villanova, who play most of their games on campus, but some games off campus.
Third, after arena availability is met, television also dictates when games are going to be played. and, since most Big East games are televised, this also creates scheduling challenges.
Fourth, MU will always schedule a handful of buy games, just like every other D1 program in the top 40 do. These are scheduled last, and while all of us would like to see stronger competition, they are not trying to load up on the worst Division one programs. They schedule these games to make money.
Sorry if that bothers you, but that is the reality of Division 1 sports at private universities. We cannot shift the cost of athletics programs onto the student body or state government like public universities do.
As a result, MU schedules who is available after the first three criteria for scheduling are met. Bottom rung programs also need the revenue from these buy games, as it is used to support their athletic programs that don't have TV and conference revenue to rely on. Notice that when MU schedule Grambling or Alcorn State, those teams are on the road for a couple of weeks before Christmas bouncing from a Big Ten game on Monday and a Big East game on Wednesday, so even scheduling bottom rung teams is not as easy as many of you think it is.
So, rather than focuses on how stupid the athletic program is, or the coaches want to load on 300 and below rpi teams, it is just not true. There is no conspiracy here, although I doubt anyone on here trusts anything that I wrote in this post.
edit: Paragraphs are your friend.
Quote from: 6746jonesr on July 05, 2016, 01:31:18 PM
Great, we can bitch about this again. It signs like the rite of July at MU, to bitch not only about the schedule but how it is released. While we can speculate that it is done for pr reasons, or to drum up fan support, here is something that you should take into consideration. First, the schedule is not completed for next year. The Big East controls the scheduling of conference games, so while we know who our opponents are, we won't know when they will be played. Secondly, MU like Georgetown, play all of their games in an NBA arena, so availability of the arena to schedule is tougher for us than most Big East teams, including St. John's and Villanova, who play most of their games on campus, but some games off campus. Third, after arena availability is met, television also dictates when games are going to be played. and, since most Big East games are televised, this also creates scheduling challenges. Fourth, MU will always schedule a handful of buy games, just like every other D1 program in the top 40 do. These are scheduled last, and while all of us would like to see stronger competition, they are not trying to load up on the worst Division one programs. They schedule these games to make money. Sorry if that bothers you, but that is the reality of Division 1 sports at private universities. We cannot shift the cost of athletics programs onto the student body or state government like public universities do. As a result, MU schedules who is available after the first three criteria for scheduling are met. Bottom rung programs also need the revenue from these buy games, as it is used to support their athletic programs that don't have TV and conference revenue to rely on. Notice that when MU schedule Grambling or Alcorn State, those teams are on the road for a couple of weeks before Christmas bouncing from a Big Ten game on Monday and a Big East game on Wednesday, so even scheduling bottom rung teams is not as easy as many of you think it is. So, rather than focuses on how stupid the athletic program is, or the coaches want to load on 300 and below rpi teams, it is just not true. There is no conspiracy here, although I doubt anyone on here trusts anything that I wrote in this post.
I don't think many would disagree with you. Everyone knows that there will be buy games. Everyone knows its not all that easy to put a schedule together. They are already working on next year's.
People have complained about the quality of the buy game opponents.
And I have complained about how they release it.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 05, 2016, 12:31:07 PM
I'm getting pissy because this is what I do for a living and my alma mater SUCKS at it.
As a PR professional, explain the (apparently vast) benefits of releasing the nonconference schedule all at one vs the piecemeal method MU has chosen.
It seems to me that doing it this way creates daily/near daily opportunities to generate discussion, JS blog posts, tweets, etc. about MU basketball in an otherwise completely dead period. Whereas, a one-day schedule dump creates just one JS story, one day of social media chatter, etc.
Other than a handful of impatient people finding it annoying, explain the downside.
Quote from: Pakuni on July 05, 2016, 01:40:25 PM
As a PR professional, explain the (apparently vast) benefits of releasing the nonconference schedule all at one vs the piecemeal method MU has chosen.
It seems to me that doing it this way creates daily/near daily opportunities to generate discussion, JS blog posts, tweets, etc. about MU basketball in an otherwise completely dead period. Whereas, a one-day schedule dump creates just one JS story, one day of social media chatter, etc.
Other than a handful of impatient people finding it annoying, explain the downside.
I would be happy to.
In my professional opinion, you don't just generate continuous content to generate discussion if that content is crappy. (And announcing an exhibition game v. Rockhurst is crappy content.) And nobody is talking about the content anyway. Is anyone really debating the merits of the opponent? Is anyone really discussing how cool it is that there will be a family reunion with a Deiner coaching Rockhurst? Nope. You know why? It's Rockhurst.
I see this all the time where organizations are too focused on the quantity of what they are producing and not building their brand. Announcing some buy game versus South Dakota Tech does nothing for that. It just reminds people that they play a fair number of games against bad opponents.
Put something out about the tournament. Put out the Wisconsin game on its own. Mention the two games v. SEC schools. Then just package the rest up with a recap.
Focus on the quality of the announcements.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 05, 2016, 01:55:23 PM
I would be happy to.
In my professional opinion, you don't just generate continuous content to generate discussion if that content is crappy. (And announcing an exhibition game v. Rockhurst is crappy content.) And nobody is talking about the content anyway. Is anyone really debating the merits of the opponent? Is anyone really discussing how cool it is that there will be a family reunion with a Deiner coaching Rockhurst? Nope. You know why? It's Rockhurst.
I see this all the time where organizations are too focused on the quantity of what they are producing and not building their brand. Announcing some buy game versus South Dakota Tech does nothing for that. It just reminds people that they play a fair number of games against bad opponents.
Put something out about the tournament. Put out the Wisconsin game on its own. Mention the two games v. SEC schools. Then just package the rest up with a recap.
Focus on the quality of the announcements.
Thanks
Quote from: jsglow on July 05, 2016, 12:46:16 PM
Rockhurst is evil and must be destroyed?
Never to early state........even for an exhibition.
Release it all the same day. If you want to stagger it, release one game an hour. You'll generate discussion without dragging the process out and putting a full day's emphasis on a game no one cares about.
Or make it an event, tie it in with the BBQ, you'd get more interest and have something else tangible to offer fans that attend.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 05, 2016, 12:31:07 PM
I'm getting pissy because this is what I do for a living and my alma mater SUCKS at it.
I agree with Pakuni and fully endorse your statement.
Things hit closer to home when it is what you do for a living and even little things can be immensely irksome.
This may be one of the dumber things I've seen scoopers get upset about.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on July 05, 2016, 12:17:23 PM
Referencing your first sentence, what makes you say that? We already have Vanderbilt, Wisconsin, Georgia and 2 of Pitt/SMU/Michigan on the schedule. As long as the buy games are better, it's a pretty good schedule. Fresno State is a really good start.
I do agree that the announcement method is really lame.
Because if the remainder was good, they would have announced it like these others.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 05, 2016, 05:43:57 PM
Because if the remainder was good, they would have announced it like these others.
I agree that the remainder of opponents will be cupcakes, but if they are cupcakes in the 130-230 range, we'll have a good schedule.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on July 05, 2016, 06:56:06 PM
I agree that the remainder of opponents will be cupcakes, but if they are cupcakes in the 130-230 range, we'll have a good schedule.
ummm....those are not cupcakes.
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 05, 2016, 07:10:03 PM
ummm....those are not cupcakes.
Oooh, Elon, Incarnate Word, w'n Carolina, Radford, IUPUI, Gardner-Webb, UT-Martin, Jackson St, Canisius, American, etc... Super scary, aiiiina?
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 05, 2016, 07:13:52 PM
Oooh, Elon, Incarnate Word, w'n Carolina, Radford, IUPUI, Gardner-Webb, UT-Martin, Jackson St, Canisius, American, etc... Super scary, aiiiina?
Exactly. And Fairfield, Oral Roberts, Towson,Hampton, High Point, Furman, New Hampshire, Sam Houston State, Ball State....all of those are 180 or better.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 05, 2016, 05:41:25 PM
This may be one of the dumber things I've seen scoopers get upset about.
Exactly. ::)
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 05, 2016, 07:13:52 PM
Oooh, Elon, Incarnate Word, w'n Carolina, Radford, IUPUI, Gardner-Webb, UT-Martin, Jackson St, Canisius, American, etc... Super scary, aiiiina?
they don't obliterate the RPI. They are also eons better than what we saw last fall. Not scary, but somewhat competitive. Let's get real here, MU is not going to get a bunch of 100 and below RPI teams to come to the BC.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 05, 2016, 05:41:25 PM
This may be one of the dumber things I've seen scoopers get upset about.
I agree, but give Sultan a pass. This is what he does for a living so he should be care a lot about it and I strongly respect his opinion on this issue.
Now that I've read it, I'll go about my business not worrying about this and leave it up the the experts to fret about the ins and outs of releasing a schedule.
Yeah I'm done. Said my peace and moving on.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 05, 2016, 11:34:49 AM
This screams "we signed up another set pansies in order to claim another 20 win season". When the majority of the Big East has released their OOC schedule over a month before MU, this makes MUAD look really, really lame. Hell, DePaul has already figured this one out.
....If by "a majority of the Big East" you mean 4 teams...making us in the top half of teams to announce. And if by "over a month before" you mean two of them announcing three weeks ago, one announcing two weeks ago, and another announcing less than a week ago. I'm also pretty sure that how quickly you announce your schedule has nothing to do with how difficult it is.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on July 05, 2016, 05:43:57 PM
Because if the remainder was good, they would have announced it like these others.
How many OOC games do you think we are playing? We already know about eight of them.
Vanderbilt
2 of Michigan, Pitt, SMU
2 of IUPUI, Eastern Michigan, Gardner-Webb, and Howard
Georgia
Fresno State
Wisconsin
Usually we only play 12 or 13 OOC games. So that only leaves 4-5 unannounced games. Given that we are already playing 5 high major teams, 1 very good mid major, and 2 low majors that are all expected to be top 250 teams, of course the rest of the games are going to be cupcakes. Very few teams schedule more than 6 quality OOC games.
With what we already know, I don't think its possible for this schedule to be worse than last year's. It already looks pretty tough. As long as we don't play Grambling 5 times we're looking at a very solid OOC SOS.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on July 05, 2016, 06:56:06 PM
I agree that the remainder of opponents will be cupcakes, but if they are cupcakes in the 130-230 range, we'll have a good schedule.
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 05, 2016, 07:10:03 PM
ummm....those are not cupcakes.
Let's just call them muffins. Like a cupcake, but not really. Could be better, could be worse... But you never know until you take a bite.
The other 5 teams are the key to the entire schedule. If we're looking at 5 bottom feeder teams from low majors, the schedule will be mediocre. We don't need five Fresno States, but competent teams from top-22 leagues that will win 14-20 games would be ideal.
Each day, they should have Woj at a table with 3 hats of possible opponents, and then dramatically pick up a hat between Northeastern Montana State, Southern North Dakota Tech, and Filmore State for our first game, and do this each day.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 05, 2016, 09:23:45 PM
The other 5 teams are the key to the entire schedule. If we're looking at 5 bottom feeder teams from low majors, the schedule will be mediocre. We don't need five Fresno States, but competent teams from top-22 leagues that will win 14-20 games would be ideal.
Agreed, but if we get one to three bottom feeder teams from low majors the schedule will still be strong. That won't stop the scoop meltdown though.
Quote from: Benny B on July 05, 2016, 09:21:32 PM
Let's just call them muffins. Like a cupcake, but not really. Could be better, could be worse... But you never know until you take a bite.
I hope they aren't lemon poppyseed. Those suck.
It's dumb the way they are releasing the schedule.
It's dumb that we've started a thread about how dumb it is.
It's dumb that I have to point out how dumb it is that we're mad about them being dumb.
I was going to perform the ultimate scoop statement and refuse to post about how dumb it is that we have to be dumb to point out how dumb they are...
but that would have been stupid.
Quote from: MUDish on July 05, 2016, 09:49:57 PM
Each day, they should have Woj at a table with 3 hats of possible opponents, and then dramatically pick up a hat between Northeastern Montana State, Southern North Dakota Tech, and Filmore State for our first game, and do this each day.
Or, better yet, Wojo gets down in a defensive stance near mid-court as a tiny, shadowy figure with blank jersey approaches. As Wojo slaps the floor, the opponent's jersey is revealed and Coach purposely gets beat off the dribble so that he can recover and block Charlie's/Jack's/other six grade campers' shots into the rafters!!!
Quote from: MUDish on July 05, 2016, 09:49:57 PM
Each day, they should have Woj at a table with 3 hats of possible opponents, and then dramatically pick up a hat between Northeastern Montana State, Southern North Dakota Tech, and Filmore State for our first game, and do this each day.
Hilarious.
Wojo could even jazz it up a bit by trolling the few crossover MU-SNDT fans a la
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/196grzxfny1dygif/ku-xlarge.gif)
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 05, 2016, 09:23:45 PM
The other 5 teams are the key to the entire schedule. If we're looking at 5 bottom feeder teams from low majors, the schedule will be mediocre. We don't need five Fresno States, but competent teams from top-22 leagues that will win 14-20 games would be ideal.
Exactly! If MU adds in several teams that are going to win 2 to 8 games this year, the NC sked will get a mediocre grade at best, from an RPI standpoint.
The opponents that will be unveiled over this unbelievably long naming-journey this month are very important to know and understand.
That said, one a day? So dumb. Ugh.
PS - troubling video title released by #mubb last night... "A traditional summer"... Luke/Matt/Sam/Katin/Rowsey lineup on deck?????
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 06, 2016, 07:51:21 AM
Exactly! If MU adds in several teams that are going to win 2 to 8 games this year, the NC sked will get a mediocre grade at best, from an RPI standpoint.
The opponents that will be unveiled over this unbelievably long naming-journey this month are very important to know and understand.
That said, one a day? So dumb. Ugh.
PS - troubling video title released by #mubb last night... "A traditional summer"... Luke/Matt/Sam/Katin/Rowsey lineup on deck?????
I thought the same damn thing. Wojo needs to have an intern study scoop lingo.
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 06, 2016, 07:51:21 AM
Exactly! If MU adds in several teams that are going to win 2 to 8 games this year, the NC sked will get a mediocre grade at best, from an RPI standpoint.
The opponents that will be unveiled over this unbelievably long naming-journey this month are very important to know and understand.
That said, one a day? So dumb. Ugh.
PS - troubling video title released by #mubb last night... "A traditional summer"... Luke/Matt/Sam/Katin/Rowsey lineup on deck?????
Yeah but Katin is heavily tatt'ed
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 05, 2016, 09:23:45 PM
The other 5 teams are the key to the entire schedule. If we're looking at 5 bottom feeder teams from low majors, the schedule will be mediocre. We don't need five Fresno States, but competent teams from top-22 leagues that will win 14-20 games would be ideal.
And there in lies the difference between a fan and a savvy fan
Fan: we're playing Upper Michigan Technical Institute...I've never heard of them, this game sucks
Savvy fan: we're playing Upper Michigan Technical Institute {looks at kenpom} they had a 200 RPI last year, this game will suck but at least we can still have a solid NC RPI.
Scoop fan: (http://thefunniestpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/funny-gif-dog-playing-paws1.gif)
Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on July 05, 2016, 10:51:20 PM
Or, better yet, Wojo gets down in a defensive stance near mid-court as a tiny, shadowy figure with blank jersey approaches. As Wojo slaps the floor, the opponent's jersey is revealed and Coach purposely gets beat off the dribble so that he can recover and block Charlie's/Jack's/other six grade campers' shots into the rafters!!!
Why not just bring a wooden board with the team's logo on it out on an ATV and have each player wear a karate outfit and break the board like we're going to break the team?
Quote from: wadesworld on July 06, 2016, 08:35:40 AM
Why not just bring a wooden board with the team's logo on it out on an ATV and have each player wear a karate outfit and break the board like we're going to break the team?
Because Diener would break his hand....again
Scoop fan:
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You are being too kind. This is more like it:
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(http://i.imgur.com/bCVytWQ.gif)
(http://i.imgur.com/U48QdJ5.gif)
Quote from: mu03eng on July 06, 2016, 08:29:03 AM
And there in lies the difference between a fan and a savvy fan
Fan: we're playing Upper Michigan Technical Institute...I've never heard of them, this game sucks
Savvy fan: we're playing Upper Michigan Technical Institute {looks at kenpom} they had a 200 RPI last year, this game will suck but at least we can still have a solid NC RPI.
Scoop fan: (http://thefunniestpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/funny-gif-dog-playing-paws1.gif)
Finally we get some credit for how cute we are.
Quote from: drewm88 on July 06, 2016, 10:13:08 AM
Finally we get some credit for how cute we are.
...and nekkid
How about St. Leo's, A team of nuns in their 70's. Rockhurst??? WOW! Upper Michigan Institute,
be c areful. You get better by playing competition.
Quote from: forgetful on July 05, 2016, 10:35:43 PM
I hope they aren't lemon poppyseed. Those suck.
You're kidding me right? The only muffins better than a lemon poppyseed is the Orange-cranberry-pumpkin muffin at Collectivo (formerly Alterra)
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 05, 2016, 08:17:03 PM
Vanderbilt
2 of Michigan, Pitt, SMU
2 of IUPUI, Eastern Michigan, Gardner-Webb, and Howard
Georgia
Fresno State
Wisconsin
With all do respect to our team, this schedule does seem pretty challenging so I'm nervous but excited to see how we do agains these teams.
Quote from: fjm on July 06, 2016, 11:45:04 AM
You're kidding me right? The only muffins better than a lemon poppyseed is the Orange-cranberry-pumpkin muffin at Collectivo (formerly Alterra)
I take it you've never tried the Blueberry-Banana muffin at Muddy Waters in MPLS?
Quote from: GooooMarquette on July 06, 2016, 11:54:47 AM
I take it you've never tried the Blueberry-Banana muffin at Muddy Waters in MPLS?
You are correct!
Muffin summit?
Today's scintillating announcement. Nothing. Vandy, we already knew that.
Wake me when this is over.
Quote from: jsglow on July 06, 2016, 12:18:48 PM
Today's scintillating announcement. Nothing. Vandy, we already knew that.
Wake me when this is over.
Gonna be sleeping for a bit....it ain't over for another 10 days.
Quote from: jsglow on July 06, 2016, 12:18:48 PM
Today's scintillating announcement. Nothing. Vandy, we already knew that.
Wake me when this is over.
Quote from: mu03eng on July 06, 2016, 01:56:15 PM
Gonna be sleeping for a bit....it ain't over for another 10 days.
So if they said, "The non-conference schedule will be released on July 16" you guys would be sitting up wide eyed waiting like a pre-teen on a sugar high or what?
Some people just need something to complain about...
Quote from: GooooMarquette on July 06, 2016, 11:54:47 AM
I take it you've never tried the Blueberry-Banana muffin at Muddy Waters in MPLS?
That sound fabulous. There was a similar muffin with crumb topping at this bagel shop on the upper East side when I used to live in Manhattan. To die for. I used to go there almost every day when I walked to work.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 06, 2016, 02:15:05 PM
So if they said, "The non-conference schedule will be released on July 16" you guys would be sitting up wide eyed waiting like a pre-teen on a sugar high or what?
Some people just need something to complain about...
Absolutely I would...we're waiting to podcast until the full NC is released because we can't really analyze it until we know the full thing. Releasing it piecemeal has no value add. The individual games almost don't matter right now, it's the aggregate that makes a difference.
At the end of the day I think it's stupid, but other than responding in this thread I've given zero thought to it. I know when everything will be released and will just wait until then to care.
Quote from: mu03eng on July 06, 2016, 03:01:04 PM
Absolutely I would...we're waiting to podcast until the full NC is released because we can't really analyze it until we know the full thing. Releasing it piecemeal has no value add. The individual games almost don't matter right now, it's the aggregate that makes a difference.
At the end of the day I think it's stupid, but other than responding in this thread I've given zero thought to it. I know when everything will be released and will just wait until then to care.
Fair enough. I guess that's my point. Whether they said, "The nonconference schedule will be released on 7/16/16," or, "We'll release one nonconference game per day until 7/16/16," you know the full nonconference by 7/16/16.
Today's "announcement" just seems silly as it adds absolutely no value to the tweet the @MarquetteMBB account sent out on April 11.
I agree with tower. I was simply ridiculing it.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 06, 2016, 02:15:05 PM
So if they said, "The non-conference schedule will be released on July 16" you guys would be sitting up wide eyed waiting like a pre-teen on a sugar high or what?
Some people just need something to complain about...
I'd be far more excited for it all coming out at once. As a schedule junkie who looks forward to the non-con schedule, this just feels unnecessary.
Here's the reason I don't like it. For anyone that takes the time to follow the @MarquetteMBB Twitter account, we already know the bulk of the games. This whole procrastinated roll-out is just stretching out a large part of what we already know.
The only days that will actually give new information will be when they release the cupcake opponents (other than Fresno). If this was all actually breaking news, then it would make more sense to turn them all into talking points. But most of the discussions have already been had, so it's silly to try to break news that broke weeks and months ago.
Yup, this stuff has been decided for ages. Heck, even the Rockhurst game, I knew about that one and I'm sure other posters or lurkers know about what the other games are.
Who wants to play guess the remaining non-con opponents?
Quote from: jsglow on July 06, 2016, 04:45:07 PM
I agree with tower. I was simply ridiculing it.
Thanks, but I haven't said anything in this thread.
Quote from: Earl Tatum on July 06, 2016, 10:47:57 AM
How about St. Leo's, A team of nuns in their 70's. Rockhurst??? WOW! Upper Michigan Institute,
be c areful. You get better by playing competition.
HEY!!
We played St. Leo's in 1978!
Quote from: fjm on July 06, 2016, 11:45:04 AM
You're kidding me right? The only muffins better than a lemon poppyseed is the Orange-cranberry-pumpkin muffin at Collectivo (formerly Alterra)
Upon discussion with friends and colleagues, it turns out I'm strange in not liking lemon poppyseed. Lemon poppyseed muffins are then fine on the schedule.
Under no circumstance whatsoever though should a University as prestigious as MU and with as storied basketball history schedule any damn Bran Muffins.
Quote from: We R Final Four on July 06, 2016, 05:17:59 PM
Who wants to play guess the remaining non-con opponents?
Knowing MU, almost guaranteed to be a SWAC team. We can only pray for it to be Southern or Texas Southern.
Quote from: forgetful on July 06, 2016, 08:55:23 PM
Upon discussion with friends and colleagues, it turns out I'm strange in not liking lemon poppyseed. Lemon poppyseed muffins are then fine on the schedule.
Under no circumstance whatsoever though should a University as prestigious as MU and with as storied basketball history schedule any damn Bran Muffins.
You're not alone. Can't stand lemon poppyseed
What are you guys talking about? Lemon poppyseed is phenomenal! Chocolate chip with the little frosting streaks on top or the solid sugar on top are better, but beyond that not many muffins top it. If you can find a simple banana muffin without the walnut in it that may as well.
Quote from: forgetful on July 06, 2016, 08:55:23 PM
Upon discussion with friends and colleagues, it turns out I'm strange in not liking lemon poppyseed. Lemon poppyseed muffins are then fine on the schedule.
Under no circumstance whatsoever though should a University as prestigious as MU and with as storied basketball history schedule any damn Bran Muffins.
Where do you think the term "sh/t the bed" came from.... From scheduling and losing to bran muffins.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on July 06, 2016, 08:55:58 PM
Knowing MU, almost guaranteed to be a SWAC team. We can only pray for it to be Southern or Texas Southern.
I'd love Southern. Winning record 5 years running, top-100 non-con schedule 4 years running. TSU has had a good few years, but lost 4/5 starters as well as the first guy off the bench.
Quote from: Benny B on July 06, 2016, 10:48:44 PM
Where do you think the term "sh/t the bed" came from.... From scheduling and losing to bran muffins.
Ha that made me chuckle.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 06, 2016, 11:35:35 PM
I'd love Southern. Winning record 5 years running, top-100 non-con schedule 4 years running. TSU has had a good few years, but lost 4/5 starters as well as the first guy off the bench.
Texas Sourhern tourney run on deck for 2016-17, a'mmina?
The actual university name should not matter for non-conference schedule evaluation purposes. It should be entirely about their RPI history and projected RPI for the up coming season.
Quote from: mu03eng on July 07, 2016, 08:47:20 AM
The actual university name should not matter for non-conference schedule evaluation purposes. It should be entirely about their RPI history and projected RPI for the up coming season.
Nope. Should be based on their projected impact to your RPI. (Neither their historical RPI nor projected RPI impact your RPI).
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 07, 2016, 09:05:31 AM
Nope. Should be based on their projected impact to your RPI. (Neither their historical RPI nor projected RPI impact your RPI).
Can we just agree that when referring to an opponent's RPI in the context of MU's strength of schedule, that said reference to "opponent's RPI" is used as a proxy for "both that opponent's and their opponents' projected win/loss total?"
Quote from: Benny B on July 07, 2016, 09:14:00 AM
Can we just agree that when referring to an opponent's RPI in the context of MU's strength of schedule, that said reference to "opponent's RPI" is used as a proxy for "both that opponent's and their opponents' projected win/loss total?"
Sure, but only if "it's hot outside today" can be a proxy for "it's more than 32 degrees Fahrenheit outside today"
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 07, 2016, 10:11:55 AM
Sure, but only if "it's hot outside today" can be a proxy for "it's more than 32 degrees Fahrenheit outside today"
Provided that said proxy is applicable only to you and our other token Minnesotans, you've got yourself a deal.
Even lamer. Today's announcement was 11/14 vs. "2K opponent" because it hasn't been announced by tournament organizers/ESPN yet.
So the next 3 announcements will probably all reveal nothing.
Creighton is tweeting each game of their sked every 5 minutes. It's the exact same thing we're doing except our intervals are 23 hours and 55 minutes longers. NBD.
LAME!!!!!
So based off a few things, here's a few teams that would be good picks for non-con games:
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- Incarnate Word: Not a ton of history, but in their three years in D1 they have had a winning record each year and won an average of 10.3 league games per season. They don't play in the strongest conference, but offset that with a tough non-con schedule. Their two qualifying years they were in the 160-180 RPI range.
- Weber State: Randy Rahe has had one losing season in his decade in Ogden, the Big Sky is a decent conference, and there's an above average chance the Wildcats will put up 25+ wins (they've done it 3 of the last 5 seasons). Even better, in the past 5 years, they don't have a single away win over a true high-major team. Sure, they beat Dayton (Yay) and a terrible Utah (2011-12 team), but generally when they go on the road for buy games, they lose.
- Penn: You need some bottom feeders, and Penn has only had one winning record in the last 6 years. However, they play in a tough mid-major, which is good for the opponent's opponents factor, and Steve Donohue knows his way around the Ivy. When you consider they return 4/5 starters, they should improve.
- St. Francis (NY): Who'll get excited about these guys? No one except schedule junkies. Why get excited? They are consistently, even reliably mediocre. One 20+ win season in the last 6, four seasons in the 15-18 range, and never less than 12. They also play in a bad (not SWAC bad, but no one is) league that has ensured they won 8+ league games each year. I love low-majors that always do well in their league because you can at least count on double-digit wins and a record that won't really hurt your RPI.
- Toledo: I love MAC teams. The league is tough and they all seem to win games. Everyone talks about the MVC, Horizon, and A-10 as the creme de la creme mid-majors, but the MAC is right there. Toledo has had a winning record the past five years under Tod Kowalczyk, return 4 starters, they'll be tough.
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I certainly don't expect 5 teams like that, and it would be very risky to schedule 5 teams that you know will be "good" for RPI. I would really like to see at least two teams like these. Give us Weber State, Incarnate Word, and three teams from the Summit, C-USA, Sun Belt, MAAC, Ohio Valley, or Patriot and I'll be a happy camper.
What's even lamer is that we are still complaining about this. And that we will complain about it each day for the next 10 days. Guess what? It's not changing. If you didn't like it yesterday, you won't like it today, and you won't like it for the next 10 days. Too bad.
Sometimes it's very difficult to see the adult in the room............sometimes it's very easy!
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on July 07, 2016, 11:01:32 AM
Even lamer. Today's announcement was 11/14 vs. "2K opponent" because it hasn't been announced by tournament organizers/ESPN yet.
So the next 3 announcements will probably all reveal nothing.
Actually, the next one will at least give us another date. The following 2 are already known dates.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 07, 2016, 11:41:40 AM
What's even lamer is that we are still complaining about this. And that we will complain about it each day for the next 10 days. Guess what? It's not changing. If you didn't like it yesterday, you won't like it today, and you won't like it for the next 10 days. Too bad.
And we will get wades preaching about how lame we are for the next ten days.
As far as the 2K Classic home games go, here's a quick breakdown:
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- Eastern Michigan: I still love MAC teams. 14+ wins each of the past 5 years, winning records the past three, and they do well in conference with double-digit wins 3 years running. They also return 4/5 starters. However, they may be the most dangerous. This team has went on the road to beat both Purdue and Michigan in the past 4 years.
- Gardner-Webb: Four straight seasons of 17+ wins, four straight seasons of 10+ league wins. Reliable program that should be decent again next year. They did go up to Purdue and get a win in 2014.
- Howard: This is generally a bad team in a bad league. The only saving grace is they return all 5 starters (4 seniors), including Pomeroy's 2016 MEAC MVP James Daniel (averaged 27.1 ppg last year). Traditionally, you don't want this team on your schedule, but if there's a year to have them, this is probably it.
- IUPUI: A middle-of-the-road team in a middle-of-the-road league. Haven't had a winning record in six seasons. Another "you could do worse" team. Not as good as the first two names. Also, they are getting comfortable in Milwaukee, after beating the Panthers at the Cell in 2014 and taking us to overtime at the BC last year.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 07, 2016, 12:01:14 PM
And we will get wades preaching about how lame we are for the next ten days.
No doubt about it.
Howard is my pick to win the meac this year. Would be good from an rpi perspective
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 07, 2016, 12:08:30 PM
Howard is my pick to win the meac this year. Would be good from an rpi perspective
I'm leery of a team that had a scoring beast in Daniel and still only finished tied for 9th last year. Norfolk State will be good again and tough to beat. On paper, I have to think Howard will be in the mix, but Kevin Nickelberry hasn't yet had a season over .500 in his 6 years there and only one season with a league record over .500. Hard to pick a team like that to win the league.
Does anyone know if the buy rate for a team to play you varies? I know each deal is negotiated and you would think that the open market would dictate that a 200 RPI might have more value than a 300+ team but I wonder how much it really varies.
Take last season....if we total how much last years actual non-conference slate cost MU versus what the ideal slate would have been is there a material difference in cost?
Quote from: mu03eng on July 07, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
Does anyone know if the buy rate for a team to play you varies? I know each deal is negotiated and you would think that the open market would dictate that a 200 RPI might have more value than a 300+ team but I wonder how much it really varies.
Take last season....if we total how much last years actual non-conference slate cost MU versus what the ideal slate would have been is there a material difference in cost?
I don't know the specific answer to your question. However I would say that if Marquette is making that decision based on cost, it is an indication of a larger problem.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 07, 2016, 12:01:14 PM
And we will get wades preaching about how lame we are for the next ten days.
Not moving on quite yet?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 07, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
I don't know the specific answer to your question. However I would say that if Marquette is making that decision based on cost, it is an indication of a larger problem.
I don't disagree, I'm just trying to figure out how much cost plays a role in schedule development. Theoretically there is a sweet spot of 30 teams that all high level D1 would love to schedule that combine positive RPI impact, beatability, name recognition, etc. Those teams would be in high demand and on the open market "expensive"
Quote from: We R Final Four on July 07, 2016, 12:25:53 PM
Not moving on quite yet?
I haven't said a word about the scheduling revealing process since that time and am not planning to.
I do find it cute that you were apparently waiting to see when I next posted in this topic.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 07, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
I don't know the specific answer to your question. However I would say that if Marquette is making that decision based on cost, it is an indication of a larger problem.
If we used one of our buy games on Fresno State than the decisions are not being made soley on cost.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 07, 2016, 12:18:55 PM
I'm leery of a team that had a scoring beast in Daniel and still only finished tied for 9th last year. Norfolk State will be good again and tough to beat. On paper, I have to think Howard will be in the mix, but Kevin Nickelberry hasn't yet had a season over .500 in his 6 years there and only one season with a league record over .500. Hard to pick a team like that to win the league.
Norfolk State and South Carolina State will be up there but I think Howard is the best bet. They are a senior heavy team, with good balance at every position, and a stud player who can carry them when they need it. Also, their second leading scorer was out with an injury last season and returns this season. If he had been around last conference season they would have finished a lot higher than they did.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 07, 2016, 12:42:25 PM
If we used one of our buy games on Fresno State than the decisions are not being made soley on cost.
They certainly shouldn't be, and I agree that Fresno wouldn't be a cheap choice. However, in recent years, it sure looked like cost was an overriding factor.
That's why I hope that FSU's addition is the beginning of a list of palatable cupcakes and not the end. Adding them and five MEAC and SWAC bottom feeders will still make for a crappy schedule.
Liked it better when da 'hole schedule was released and printed in da next daze Milwaukee Urinal, hey?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 07, 2016, 12:45:00 PMNorfolk State and South Carolina State will be up there but I think Howard is the best bet.
And regardless of who wins that league, it is nice knowing that all four of the possible teams for the 2K home games have upside. EMU and Gardner-Webb should both be worthwhile home games, Howard certainly has potential, and while IUPUI may not be a Summit contender, they are an excellent "bottom of the schedule" type team.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 07, 2016, 12:32:15 PM
I haven't said a word about the scheduling revealing process since that time and am not planning to.
I do find it cute that you were apparently waiting to see when I next posted in this topic.
I thought when you said you were done, you meant you were done. My bad.
Quote from: We R Final Four on July 07, 2016, 02:02:40 PM
I thought when you said you were done, you meant you were done. My bad.
I'm sorry you fail to understand the concept of context. Must be rough...
Still not really done then, eh?
Strange that you are done with a thread and a topic but keep reading and responding. But go for it.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 07, 2016, 12:50:35 PM
And regardless of who wins that league, it is nice knowing that all four of the possible teams for the 2K home games have upside. EMU and Gardner-Webb should both be worthwhile home games, Howard certainly has potential, and while IUPUI may not be a Summit contender, they are an excellent "bottom of the schedule" type team.
I would think that we would get IUPUI and EMU just based on geography. Is that oversimplifying it?
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 07, 2016, 11:38:21 AM
So based off a few things, here's a few teams that would be good picks for non-con games:
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- Incarnate Word: Not a ton of history, but in their three years in D1 they have had a winning record each year and won an average of 10.3 league games per season. They don't play in the strongest conference, but offset that with a tough non-con schedule. Their two qualifying years they were in the 160-180 RPI range.
- Weber State: Randy Rahe has had one losing season in his decade in Ogden, the Big Sky is a decent conference, and there's an above average chance the Wildcats will put up 25+ wins (they've done it 3 of the last 5 seasons). Even better, in the past 5 years, they don't have a single away win over a true high-major team. Sure, they beat Dayton (Yay) and a terrible Utah (2011-12 team), but generally when they go on the road for buy games, they lose.
- Penn: You need some bottom feeders, and Penn has only had one winning record in the last 6 years. However, they play in a tough mid-major, which is good for the opponent's opponents factor, and Steve Donohue knows his way around the Ivy. When you consider they return 4/5 starters, they should improve.
- St. Francis (NY): Who'll get excited about these guys? No one except schedule junkies. Why get excited? They are consistently, even reliably mediocre. One 20+ win season in the last 6, four seasons in the 15-18 range, and never less than 12. They also play in a bad (not SWAC bad, but no one is) league that has ensured they won 8+ league games each year. I love low-majors that always do well in their league because you can at least count on double-digit wins and a record that won't really hurt your RPI.
- Toledo: I love MAC teams. The league is tough and they all seem to win games. Everyone talks about the MVC, Horizon, and A-10 as the creme de la creme mid-majors, but the MAC is right there. Toledo has had a winning record the past five years under Tod Kowalczyk, return 4 starters, they'll be tough.
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I certainly don't expect 5 teams like that, and it would be very risky to schedule 5 teams that you know will be "good" for RPI. I would really like to see at least two teams like these. Give us Weber State, Incarnate Word, and three teams from the Summit, C-USA, Sun Belt, MAAC, Ohio Valley, or Patriot and I'll be a happy camper.
I would love to see us focus on MAC teams. Lots of good candidates there.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_midam_Men.html
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on July 07, 2016, 02:18:51 PM
I would think that we would get IUPUI and EMU just based on geography. Is that oversimplifying it?
I think we'll at least get one of those two, but Michigan likely will too. I would guess all four "big" teams will play different "small" teams, which means Michigan and us will have different opponents (only one in common).
My guess would be that Marquette and Michigan would each play two of EMU, IUPUI, and Howard. Pitt probably gets Howard and Gardner Webb, while SMU gets Gardner Webb and either Howard or IUPUI.
Quote from: mu03eng on July 07, 2016, 12:23:14 PM
Does anyone know if the buy rate for a team to play you varies? I know each deal is negotiated and you would think that the open market would dictate that a 200 RPI might have more value than a 300+ team but I wonder how much it really varies.
Take last season....if we total how much last years actual non-conference slate cost MU versus what the ideal slate would have been is there a material difference in cost?
There's some variance, but
a) Excluding outliers, the difference in cost among buy opponents is typically $10k, maybe $15k. Buy games hover around the $95k-100k mark, so you're looking at a difference of 10-15%.
b) The buy teams aren't necessarily setting their own price; in most cases, they typically either simply agree or decline what's offered.
c) The cost isn't always correlated with the "buy" team's RPI (or projected RPI)... the cost of travel has more effect on the "buy" fee.
d) With respect to the above, MU might pay Chicago State less than they would a UMBC because CSU isn't going to incur airfare, and possibly hotel, costs. But say someone like Texas Pan-Am plays Becky on Thursday and Purdue the following Monday... UTPA might be willing to agree to a buy with Marquette for even less than Chicago State because under NCAA rules, they would otherwise have to return to McAllen between the UW and PU games... a Saturday game in Milwaukee means they don't have to fly back to McAllen in between UW and PU, and because it would likely be a lot cheaper to fly to Madison, charter a bus from Madison to West Lafayette with a stopover in Milwaukee, and fly back from West Lafayette than it would cost to fly R/T to both Madison and West Lafayette, they might just take anything MU offered them.
Sultan is suffering from gas and or has a slow day. Let's forgive him.
Quote from: Benny B on July 07, 2016, 05:07:36 PM
There's some variance, but
a) Excluding outliers, the difference in cost among buy opponents is typically $10k, maybe $15k. Buy games hover around the $95k-100k mark, so you're looking at a difference of 10-15%.
b) The buy teams aren't necessarily setting their own price; in most cases, they typically either simply agree or decline what's offered.
c) The cost isn't always correlated with the "buy" team's RPI (or projected RPI)... the cost of travel has more effect on the "buy" fee.
d) With respect to the above, MU might pay Chicago State less than they would a UMBC because CSU isn't going to incur airfare, and possibly hotel, costs. But say someone like Texas Pan-Am plays Becky on Thursday and Purdue the following Monday... UTPA might be willing to agree to a buy with Marquette for even less than Chicago State because under NCAA rules, they would otherwise have to return to McAllen between the UW and PU games... a Saturday game in Milwaukee means they don't have to fly back to McAllen in between UW and PU, and because it would likely be a lot cheaper to fly to Madison, charter a bus from Madison to West Lafayette with a stopover in Milwaukee, and fly back from West Lafayette than it would cost to fly R/T to both Madison and West Lafayette, they might just take anything MU offered them.
Perfect, this is what I was thinking but good to get a sanity check.
Side note, Scott Kuykendall has reached out over twitter to discuss the "strategy" on the Scrambled Eggs podcast...would there be interest in such a conversation?
Quote from: mu03eng on July 08, 2016, 08:54:29 AM
Side note, Scott Kuykendall has reached out over twitter to discuss the "strategy" on the Scrambled Eggs podcast...would there be interest in such a conversation?
Roney Eford has risen!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: mu03eng on July 08, 2016, 08:54:29 AM
Perfect, this is what I was thinking but good to get a sanity check.
Side note, Scott Kuykendall has reached out over twitter to discuss the "strategy" on the Scrambled Eggs podcast...would there be interest in such a conversation?
I would absolutely be interested in hearing what Kuykendall has to say... but what's a podcast?
Quote from: Benny B on July 08, 2016, 09:36:55 AM
I would absolutely be interested in hearing what Kuykendall has to say... but what's a podcast?
Recording we release 2 minutes at a time over a 2 week period.
Quote from: mu03eng on July 08, 2016, 09:43:24 AM
Recording we release 2 minutes at a time over a 2 week period.
Stop being lame #scrambledeggs
Quote from: Benny B on July 08, 2016, 09:45:11 AM
Stop being lame #scrambledeggs
No you're being lame #Myron
Quote from: mu03eng on July 08, 2016, 09:49:10 AM
No you're being lame #Myron
You know... I'm starting to seriously regret not taking a selfie of me when (I think) I ran into Myron at MSP a few months back.
Quote from: mu03eng on July 08, 2016, 08:54:29 AM
Perfect, this is what I was thinking but good to get a sanity check.
Side note, Scott Kuykendall has reached out over twitter to discuss the "strategy" on the Scrambled Eggs podcast...would there be interest in such a conversation?
Absolutely.
Quote from: mu03eng on July 07, 2016, 12:31:49 PM
I don't disagree, I'm just trying to figure out how much cost plays a role in schedule development. Theoretically there is a sweet spot of 30 teams that all high level D1 would love to schedule that combine positive RPI impact, beatability, name recognition, etc. Those teams would be in high demand and on the open market "expensive"
I thought that the Pilarz/Larry Williams strategy for where they wanted to take MU basketball was to be kept secret for another 50 years.