Just got an email from the athletics department that they have released an app that will allow people to join in on the lights show via their phones. They actually have a demo on the app and I could see it being pretty neat if thousands of phones were simultaneously participating.
(http://image.tmclient.ticketmaster.com/lib/fe9615737067027d72/m/1/Pre+Game+Light+Show.jpg)
I downloaded it!
Sweet I'm downloading it also!
Quote from: fjm on February 25, 2016, 08:29:55 PM
Sweet I'm downloading it also!
Hot damn, this demo is fun to just turn on and listen to! (http://www.marquette.edu/osl/fypp/pages/photos/Steinfeld3.jpg)
Hope Markus is impressed!
Cool idea.
This is a pretty cool feature. Becky has been doing it & I know X does it as well when I went to a game. Very modern & fun
Cool idea. It really depends on how many people download it. A full stadium of it would look awesome.
I like it. Glad we've got so many recruits going to this game. I think it will bee a raucous crowd
O M G!
Can't wait until someone sues for having a seizure induced ;)
I think we should randomly do the demo during free throws. That chirping at the beginning scared my dog.
Quote from: mu03eng on February 26, 2016, 07:43:04 AM
Can't wait until someone sues for having a seizure induced ;)
I know this was said in jest, but my little brother can't go to games at the BMO because of the way they sync the camera flash to the floor lighting. I never noticed it until he nearly had a seizure and had to leave mid-game. This was 3 years ago, so not sure if it's still the case, but for something like this, he would have to wait in the bathroom.
Quote from: pux90mex on February 26, 2016, 08:06:31 AM
I know this was said in jest, but my little brother can't go to games at the BMO because of the way they sync the camera flash to the floor lighting. I never noticed it until he nearly had a seizure and had to leave mid-game. This was 3 years ago, so not sure if it's still the case, but for something like this, he would have to wait in the bathroom.
That really sucks. I feel bad for him.
Quote from: jsglow on February 26, 2016, 08:11:29 AM
That really sucks. I feel bad for him.
Oh don't worry about him, my indoctrination effort never took off and might have had the opposite effect, so he doesn't watch or like any sports. I was just commenting on a tough spot for people like him. This is a great idea and if done correctly, will reach a big audience on FOX. I'm on board.
I'm hyped for the game!!!
LOL. The first time I activated the demo I was confused. All it did visually was show the Marquette logo on the screen and then go dark.
Then I picked my phone up off my desk and tried again.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 25, 2016, 09:27:35 PM
This is a pretty cool feature. Becky has been doing it & I know X does it as well when I went to a game. Very modern & fun
Yikes - if the Badgers and other schools already do this, then shouldn't it fall under the same scrutiny as unoriginal chants that the student section picks up. The board should be in an uproar!
Sure. What the hell. At least it will give me an excuse to take my phone back from my 5 year old.
Sweet I'm downloading it also!
I downloaded it, and I live in FL. I'll still open it up before the game, though!
Bump... Making sure all you crazy cats at Goolsbys right now has it downloaded!
Downloaded and just tested it out. Still seeing spots. Should be very cool.
Didn't get a chance to watch the game. How did this turn out?
Quote from: Les Nessman on February 27, 2016, 03:46:45 PM
Didn't get a chance to watch the game. How did this turn out?
It was pretty damn cool. Predictably, all the lights were coming from the upper deck and ends, virtually none in the middles.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 27, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
It was pretty damn cool. Predictably, all the lights were coming from the upper deck and ends, virtually none in the middles.
Sweater vests didn't want to bring their old Bell rotary dials?
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 27, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
It was pretty damn cool. Predictably, all the lights were coming from the upper deck and ends, virtually none in the middles.
The student section was easily the brightest.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 27, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
It was pretty damn cool. Predictably, all the lights were coming from the upper deck and ends, virtually none in the middles.
This is why I roll my eyes whenever I hear complaints about the student section
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 27, 2016, 05:08:27 PM
This is why I roll my eyes whenever I hear complaints about the student section
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 27, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
It was pretty damn cool. Predictably, all the lights were coming from the upper deck and ends, virtually none in the middles.
I'm going to go ahead and guess that the students got an email about the app and that not a lot of the "sweater vests" had any idea there was an app they were supposed to download.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
I'm going to go ahead and guess that the students got an email about the app and that not a lot of the "sweater vests" had any idea there was an app they were supposed to download.
They didn't have it on the scoreboard or make an announcement? If so, that's a marketing fail
Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
I'm going to go ahead and guess that the students got an email about the app and that not a lot of the "sweater vests" had any idea there was an app they were supposed to download.
It was on the scoreboard about every 60 seconds prior to the game and they handed out fliers to every fan entering the building explaining how to download the app. It wasn't a marketing fail. Anyone who didn't download the app did so by choice or was simply completely oblivious to the world around them.
EDIT: Honestly, everyone around me was either participating in the Marquette Lights or commenting on how cool it looked. Really worked well. Kudos to the Athletic Department. Hope they continue to build on it and use it in the future.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 27, 2016, 05:24:01 PM
They didn't have it on the scoreboard or make an announcement? If so, that's a marketing fail
It was on the Jumbotron. And I am pretty sure all of the season ticket holders got an email .
Excellent. My faith in MU marketing has been restored and my eye rolls shall continue!
To be fair, it times time to download apps on a flip phone.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 27, 2016, 05:51:22 PM
It was on the scoreboard about every 60 seconds prior to the game and they handed out fliers to every fan entering the building explaining how to download the app. It wasn't a marketing fail. Anyone who didn't download the app did so by choice or was simply completely oblivious to the world around them.
EDIT: Honestly, everyone around me was either participating in the Marquette Lights or commenting on how cool it looked. Really worked well. Kudos to the Athletic Department. Hope they continue to build on it and use it in the future.
Well with the new security at the BC if you showed up to the gates any less than a half hour before tip you probably were getting to your seats just as the National Anthem was being played, at which point the Jumbotron had the MU choir on it and after they stopped handing out whatever they handed out. So students probably got a handout and saw it since they got there 2 hours ahead of time and saw the Jumbotron plenty while many people who had assigned seating may have just walked in too late to know it was happening.
If I hadn't been on Scoop I would've had no idea it was happening until the intros started and I left my house in Tosa at 12:15, parked, and went straight to wait in line for 20-30 minutes to get into the BC.
https://mobile.twitter.com/emmamezz1/status/703658004890013696
Quote from: mupanther on February 27, 2016, 08:37:48 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/emmamezz1/status/703658004890013696
Ha. I know Emma.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on February 27, 2016, 06:47:56 PM
To be fair, it times time to download apps on a flip phone.
Or they had the phone backwards and were looking into the strobe effect. ;)
Quote from: mupanther on February 27, 2016, 08:37:48 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/emmamezz1/status/703658004890013696
Wasn't at the game ..
Wait .. so is that a semi-accurate representation of how many folks were using the app?
That's like 2%.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2016, 07:03:50 PM
Well with the new security at the BC if you showed up to the gates any less than a half hour before tip you probably were getting to your seats just as the National Anthem was being played, at which point the Jumbotron had the MU choir on it and after they stopped handing out whatever they handed out. So students probably got a handout and saw it since they got there 2 hours ahead of time and saw the Jumbotron plenty while many people who had assigned seating may have just walked in too late to know it was happening.
If I hadn't been on Scoop I would've had no idea it was happening until the intros started and I left my house in Tosa at 12:15, parked, and went straight to wait in line for 20-30 minutes to get into the BC.
To be fair, you should have anticipated that. You knew it was going to be the biggest crowd of the year. And if you didn't know about the new security measures because this is the first game you have been to this year, shame on you.
Wouldn't it be, if have been to games with the scanners and didn't give yourself enough time, shame on you?
Quote from: warriorchick on February 27, 2016, 09:44:54 PM
To be fair, you should have anticipated that. You knew it was going to be the biggest crowd of the year. And if you didn't know about the new security measures because this is the first game you have been to this year, shame on you.
Quote from: bradley center bat on February 27, 2016, 09:50:13 PM
Wouldn't it be, if have been to games with the scanners and didn't give yourself enough time, shame on you?
I did give myself enough time. Was there for the National Anthem, intros, and entire game. I'm saying unless you got in line 45+ minutes before tip, got an email, or check Scoop regularly you probably didn't have any clue that there was an app you were supposed to download. It would then make sense that the students would have the highest percentage of people who downloaded the app, since they probably fit 2 of those 3 things. Of the rest of the building I'd guess under 50% of the people at the game fit any of those things.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2016, 10:16:58 PM
I did give myself enough time. Was there for the National Anthem, intros, and entire game. I'm saying unless you got in line 45+ minutes before tip, got an email, or check Scoop regularly you probably didn't have any clue that there was an app you were supposed to download. It would then make sense that the students would have the highest percentage of people who downloaded the app, since they probably fit 2 of those 3 things. Of the rest of the building I'd guess under 50% of the people at the game fit any of those things.
You know what also makes sense? A large population of sweater vests saw the messages and decided not to download the app. I'm sure both our things are true. As chick said, all season ticket holders got e-mails, so over half the crowd at least got an email.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 27, 2016, 11:58:36 PM
You know what also makes sense? A large population of sweater vests saw the messages and decided not to download the app. I'm sure both our things are true. As chick said, all season ticket holders got e-mails, so over half the crowd at least got an email.
I didn't see an email.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 27, 2016, 09:44:54 PM
To be fair, you should have anticipated that. You knew it was going to be the biggest crowd of the year. And if you didn't know about the new security measures because this is the first game you have been to this year, shame on you.
+10
Adding security theater to the Bradley Center was a stupid decision that wastes everyone's time and reduces the value of the event.
The end.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 28, 2016, 09:44:08 AM
Adding security theater to the Bradley Center was a stupid decision that wastes everyone's time and reduces the value of the event.
The end.
The security was rough the first few games, but it's pretty easy now. Have your phone and keys out, walk through, done. If you have a large belt buckle or steel toed shoes, anticipate the 10 seconds of wanding and let them know why you beeped.
It's really not a big deal and has minimal impact on the event.
No.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 28, 2016, 11:00:42 AM
The security was rough the first few games, but it's pretty easy now. Have your phone and keys out, walk through, done. If you have a large belt buckle or steel toed shoes, anticipate the 10 seconds of wanding and let them know why you beeped.
It's really not a big deal and has minimal impact on the event.
Absolute piece of cake. Phone/keys in the bin. Chick has a belt buckle on her coat that gets wanded for 5 seconds. No problem whatsoever.
Look. I'd love lines to get in the door. That means we're good and people are actually coming.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 27, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
I'm going to go ahead and guess that the students got an email about the app and that not a lot of the "sweater vests" had any idea there was an app they were supposed to download.
I sit in the sweater section and was at the game. I asked other "sweater vest" around me about the app, none had any idea what I was talking about. I got four to download it no problem, two others I had to walk through this new fanged thing called an "app store."
And, I kid you not about this ... one "sweater vest" (early 70s grad) with an iPhone 4 that did not know the app store existed, complained about MU's poor marketing about the app said "he should have gotten a letter about it."
I looked at him dumbfounded and did not know where to begin. Then the national anthem started and we moved on.
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 28, 2016, 11:56:06 AM
I sit in the sweater section and was at the game. I asked other "sweater vest" around me about the app, none had any idea what I was talking about. I got four to download it no problem, two others I had to walk through this new fanged thing called an "app store."
And, I kid you not about this ... one "sweater vest" (early 70s grad) with an iPhone 4 that did not know the app store existed, complained about MU's poor marketing about the app said "he should have gotten a letter about it."
I looked at him dumbfounded and did not know where to begin. Then the national anthem started and we moved on.
Shocked he doesn't have a Jitterbug.
Quote from: jsglow on February 28, 2016, 11:50:35 AM
Absolute piece of cake. Phone/keys in the bin. Chick has a belt buckle on her coat that gets wanded for 5 seconds. No problem whatsoever.
Look. I'd love lines to get in the door. That means we're good and people are actually coming.
Agreed ... one small beef ...
Security is inside the first set of doors, then you walk through the second set of doors and about 50 to 75 feet to have your ticket scanned.
A few games this year it was either really cold or raining/snowing while standing outside waiting to go through security.
They should move security further in, past the second set of doors, right before you get your ticket scanned so the line to go through security is mostly inside the building.
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 28, 2016, 09:44:08 AM
Adding security theater to the Bradley Center was a stupid decision that wastes everyone's time and reduces the value of the event.
The end.
Yup.
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 28, 2016, 11:56:06 AM
I sit in the sweater section and was at the game. I asked other "sweater vest" around me about the app, none had any idea what I was talking about. I got four to download it no problem, two others I had to walk through this new fanged thing called an "app store."
And, I kid you not about this ... one "sweater vest" (early 70s grad) with an iPhone 4 that did not know the app store existed, complained about MU's poor marketing about the app said "he should have gotten a letter about it."
I looked at him dumbfounded and did not know where to begin. Then the national anthem started and we moved on.
Exactly. MU tried to hand out some sheets explaining what to do to download the app (I always just walk right by whatever they're trying to hand out, and I don't think I'm alone in that) and threw some stuff up on the video board that stopped showing up 20 minutes before tip.
So thinking logically, those who got there early would be the most likely to know about it, download it, and use it. See: the student section. Not many people are filling up the stands 45 minutes before the game thinking, "Hey, I need to get there early because the video board might have some information on what I should do during the intro video!" I highly doubt there were a bunch of "sweater vests" who were standing around talking amongst each other, "Did you see about this lights app they're trying? That sounds so stupid. No way I would ever do that! Kids these days..."
Quote from: Heisenberg on February 28, 2016, 12:01:55 PM
Agreed ... one small beef ...
Security is inside the first set of doors, then you walk through the second set of doors and about 50 to 75 feet to have your ticket scanned.
A few games this year it was either really cold or raining/snowing while standing outside waiting to go through security.
They should move security further in, past the second set of doors, right before you get your ticket scanned so the line to go through security is mostly inside the building.
Perhaps. But I never remember being stuck outside for more than a few seconds with the exception of yesterday when it might have been 2-3 minutes roughly 20 minutes prior to tip.
Happy it went well and imagine it will continue to grow now that people have seen it, hopefully inspiring those who didn't know about it to participate next time.
Some of the older "sweater vests" like my parents don't carry a cell phone. They leave it in the car.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 28, 2016, 12:09:10 PM
I highly doubt there were a bunch of "sweater vests" who were standing around talking amongst each other, "Did you see about this lights app they're trying? That sounds so stupid. No way I would ever do that! Kids these days..."
I don't know why you would highly doubt that. Every time the student section or Marquette tries anything new the sweater vests on here say exactly that!
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 28, 2016, 02:04:40 PM
I don't know why you would highly doubt that. Every time the student section or Marquette tries anything new the sweater vests on here say exactly that!
Sadly, "sweater vests" and "Asians" are the two remaining groups who continue to be subjected to crude jokes and scornful ridicule. If my life depended on blindly choosing a lower level seat number 3 hr before a Tues Eve game vs NoNameState and praying that seat would be occupied by game time, I'd pick the SV area over the StudentSection. Economics notwithstanding, give the SVs some credit for faithfully supporting MU for decades. Also, if that really was an "F U Nova" chant coming from the students, that's about as crude and unoriginal as it gets. Now, get the F off my goddamn lawn!!
Didn't Sloane describe her boyfriend Ferris (as Abe Froman, sausage king) as wearing a "white tee shirt, SWEATER VEST....devastatingly handsome!"???
Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on February 28, 2016, 08:21:13 PM
Didn't Sloane describe her boyfriend Ferris (as Abe Froman, sausage king) as wearing a "white tee shirt, SWEATER VEST....devastatingly handsome!"???
Because she was talking about this guy:
(http://filmstarfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/lookalike-ferris-bueller.jpg)
Not some geezer.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 28, 2016, 09:09:34 PM
Because she was talking about this guy:
(http://filmstarfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/lookalike-ferris-bueller.jpg)
Not some geezer.
Ironic that Wheezer wrote the Sweater Song.
do you think some(or many in this intro situation) underestimated and/or didn't realize what effect the app would
have on the game day experience? i mean, when they saw what was happening, i would think many were like,
wow, that's really cool and wish they were prepared. so next time, you'll see more, then more then....sometimes
these things take a little bit to catch on.
milwaukee ain't new york yet, ayn'a hey?
Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on February 28, 2016, 08:21:13 PM
Sadly, "sweater vests" and "Asians" are the two remaining groups who continue to be subjected to crude jokes and scornful ridicule. If my life depended on blindly choosing a lower level seat number 3 hr before a Tues Eve game vs NoNameState and praying that seat would be occupied by game time, I'd pick the SV area over the StudentSection. Economics notwithstanding, give the SVs some credit for faithfully supporting MU for decades. Also, if that really was an "F U Nova" chant coming from the students, that's about as unoriginal as it gets. Now, get the F off my goddamn lawn!!
1. I apologize if the use of the term sweater vest is offensive to you. I mean it with no disrespect
2. I'm not sure where I made a crude joke or scornful ridicule. I said I roll my eyes when sweater vests complain about the students. Nothing crude nor scornful
3. You are very mistaken if you think sweater vests and asians are the only two groups subjected to jokes and ridicule
4. I would pick the student section every time if my life depended on it. You always now those first 10 rows will show up. Its very hit or miss everywhere else, especially the student section.
5. I do give them credit for showing up. I wish more would do more than show up. I also wish the students would show up in more numbers.
6. The F U Nova chants were unclassy. Not a fan. Not only that, but NOVA went on a huge run afterwards
7. I'll now get off your lawn
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 28, 2016, 02:04:40 PM
I don't know why you would highly doubt that. Every time the student section or Marquette tries anything new the sweater vests on here say exactly that!
It seems like almost all here seem to support the cool ideas for the student section (the big sign, the light app - which everyone here who commented said they were downloading). Something like a 45% full student section with 50% of that 45% full section not even participating in an "I believe that we will win" chant for a 14-17 team that we ripped off of Utah State, whose student section actually shows up and participates in it pretty impressively? Meh, I can see why some people aren't all that excited about the idea.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 28, 2016, 09:38:15 PM
1. I apologize if the use of the term sweater vest is offensive to you. I mean it with no disrespect
2. I'm not sure where I made a crude joke or scornful ridicule. I said I roll my eyes when sweater vests complain about the students. Nothing crude nor scornful
3. You are very mistaken if you think sweater vests and asians are the only two groups subjected to jokes and ridicule
4. I would pick the student section every time if my life depended on it. You always now those first 10 rows will show up. Its very hit or miss everywhere else, especially the student section.
5. I do give them credit for showing up. I wish more would do more than show up. I also wish the students would show up in more numbers.
6. The F U Nova chants were unclassy. Not a fan. Not only that, but NOVA went on a huge run afterwards
7. I'll now get off your lawn
No offense taken. I'm not a sweater-vest (yet). I just have had the pleasure of sitting next to good-natured old timer MU alums many times. I am a loud, obnoxious fan, and I am the first to stand up and start waving my arms up to get people up out of their seats. I'm in my early 40s now, and as a full-time caregiver to both my parents, I can't get to more than 2 games a year.
Between 1996 and 2011, I attended almost every home game. On many occasions, the older alums thought I was an older student, lol, bc of how emotionally invested I get in games. Only one time did I ever think of invoking the dreaded, "Shut up and stand up, Sweater Vest!" line. MU was in the throes of a late rally against a BigEast stalwart, and I stood up and cheered loudly. The stodgiest old geezer (yes, Chick, that term fits sometimes) yells at me "Hey, sit the hell down." I went full-on Trump on him, incredulous that he's calling me out for supporting my school. I was embarrassed at my own actions, however wrong the guy was, and always try to respect my elders. We made peace, and the guy told me how he had been at every MU home game since McGuire. Since that episode, I've sat near some extremely loyal MU "vests." There's a codger or two in every crowd, and I just don't think all of us at MuScoop, myself included, should paint with a broad brush. Wasn't singling you out TAMU, I find your posts well reasoned and passionate. I just included the "lawn" line because I had an "I'm becoming my parents" epiphany, and was being self-deprecating.
Other than that one chant, I thought our students were great. Even when Nova went on a couple big runs, a big deficit didn't curb the students' enthusiastic cheering. They were very loud when we were on D, much of the game. They've been solid on all our weekend home games. Hope they can show up on the weeknights next year. Even without HE, we can be special, and the students should be there in force.
Quick clip of the lights... looked pretty good here- https://twitter.com/TMJ4Steve/status/703658109412048896
I tried to download the app, but the app store said it was not compatible with my LG G4, which I find very very odd. However, since I was not going to the game and figured it was probably a strobe like feature....I did not pursue it. Would have been awesome to have been at the game with that going on. Looked really cool.
Quote from: MUfan12 on February 29, 2016, 09:11:58 AM
Quick clip of the lights... looked pretty good here- https://twitter.com/TMJ4Steve/status/703658109412048896
Seeing it with a video actually does it some justice. Not shabby!
It'll catch on. More folks will become familiar. And I'm assuming they'll be able to easily program next year's introduction into our existing app. Maybe use it again tomorrow?
Quote from: g0lden3agle on February 29, 2016, 11:56:13 AM
Seeing it with a video actually does it some justice. Not shabby!
And that video shows just as many in the sweater vest section as in the upper deck.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on February 29, 2016, 12:47:06 PM
And that video shows just as many in the sweater vest section as in the upper deck.
If you look carefully, most of the gaps in the upper deck appear to be due to empty seats. I can see plenty of light-colored clothing (i.e., gold sweater vests) in the gaps in the lower bowl.
For those that feel the term "sweater-vest" is derogatory, I am here to help.
Heretofore, let's refer to them as Long-time Game-Buff Ticketholders.
I appreciate everything the LGBT community does for our basketball team.
If you are an LGBT, stand up and be recognized!
Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on February 29, 2016, 12:00:37 AM
I am a loud, obnoxious fan, and I am the first to stand up and start waving my arms up to get people up out of their seats. I'm in my early 40s...
On many occasions, the older alums thought I was an older student, lol, bc of how emotionally invested I get in games.
That's just embarrassing.
Quote from: barfolomew on February 29, 2016, 01:16:21 PM
For those that feel the term "sweater-vest" is derogatory, I am here to help.
Heretofore, let's refer to them as Long-time Game-Buff Ticketholders.
I appreciate everything the LGBT community does for our basketball team.
If you are an LGBT, stand up and be recognized!
Chuckle. Good stuff.
Quote from: barfolomew on February 29, 2016, 01:16:21 PM
For those that feel the term "sweater-vest" is derogatory, I am here to help.
Heretofore, let's refer to them as Long-time Game-Buff Ticketholders.
I appreciate everything the LGBT community does for our basketball team.
If you are an LGBT, stand up and be recognized!
I loled
I own a sweater vest... and I wear it, too - several games a year. Have even worn it in the student section. Took it to Maui in 2012 hoping to wear it - by itself - as a top to one of the games (though my wife politely "talked me out of that" and helped me with my decision not to buy the stripey overalls either). And yet, I was merely two weeks conceived on March 28, 1977.
"Sweater Vest" may not be a derogatory term, but it sure as hell is derogatory when I wear it.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 29, 2016, 01:54:51 PM
What's embarrassing about that?
Um, a self-proclaimed "obnoxious" 40yo man waving his arms around and trying to get people to stand up and being mistaken for an "older student" due to his actions.
What's not embarrassing about that?
So are they doing the Lights again for Georgetown tomorrow?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 29, 2016, 02:31:46 PM
Um, a self-proclaimed "obnoxious" 40yo man waving his arms around and trying to get people to stand up and being mistaken for an "older student" due to his actions.
What's not embarrassing about that?
Still don't get it. Why does a fans age dictate how he can show his fanhood? I'm more embarrassed that he had to tell others to stand up!
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 29, 2016, 03:48:23 PM
Still don't get it. Why does a fans age dictate how he can show his fanhood? I'm more embarrassed that he had to tell others to stand up!
Stop.
The game dictates when to stand, not an obnoxious pretty boy.
Quote from: PTM on February 29, 2016, 03:56:48 PM
Stop.
The game dictates when to stand, not an obnoxious pretty boy.
+1
Quote from: Litehouse on February 29, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
So are they doing the Lights again for Georgetown tomorrow?
ANSWER: YES.
Pregame Light Show Continues Tuesday
Have you downloaded the MU Lights app yet? Be a part of the show at the BMO Harris Bradley Center during the intro video prior to our starting lineup being introduced on Tuesday for the final home game of the season.
"it sure as hell is derogatory when I wear it."
it very well could be derogatory if you're not wearing anything underneath said sweater vest-ayn'a?
there must be something about them with the youngsters however. my son keeps "threatening" me that he is going to buy me one. i told him, go ahead. they look like the would be pretty comfortable as a workout shirt. just think of it as a high class "wife-beater" or "D" tea (self-censored so as not to offend)
Quote from: warriorchick on February 29, 2016, 12:50:51 PM
If you look carefully, most of the gaps in the upper deck appear to be due to empty seats. I can see plenty of light-colored clothing (i.e., gold sweater vests) in the gaps in the lower bowl.
Sounds like the sweater vests are more dedicated then.
Question - anyone think the same concept would work with the front of the phone, max brightness, and flashes of blue and gold?
There are a lot of Vesties in the lower bowel who just put their phone flashlight on. #progress
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 29, 2016, 08:52:27 PM
There are a lot of Vesties in the lower bowel who just put their phone flashlight on. #progress
Ha. We noticed that too.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 29, 2016, 08:52:27 PM
There are a lot of Vesties in the lower bowel who just put their phone flashlight on. #progress
I saw a lot of that in the student section too.
Quote from: g0lden3agle on February 29, 2016, 06:28:54 PM
Question - anyone think the same concept would work with the front of the phone, max brightness, and flashes of blue and gold?
In theory, it
might work; however, given the difference in lumens/candlepower, only if you had something along the lines of 90-100% participation.
Rough math using estimates found on the interwebs:
iPhone LED (non-flash mode): ~10 lumens
iPhone 4 Screen: ~400 nits (white screen at full brightness)
iPhone 5 Screen: ~500 nits
iPhone 6 Screen: ~550 nits
iPhone 4/4s screen: 5.6 sq.in.
iPhone 5 screen: 6.6 sq.in.
iPhone 6 screen: 9.4 sq.in.
Using the standard RPI weighted average of 25-50-25): 488 / 7.05 sq. in
1550 nits = 1 lumen/sq.in.
∴ Average iPhone Screen = 2.21 lumens
So the average iPhone white screen at 100% brightness puts out about 20% the light of the flash LED. But a (Marquette) blue-colored screen is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-30% intensity and gold about 70-80% intensity. So we're now talking about 5% (light output compared to LED light) on blue and 15% on gold.
Judging from the video, there was maybe 10% participation overall, perhaps? So even if you increased participation 10-fold, the gold lights would be fine, but consider that you're in a dark arena and your eyes won't adjust immediately after a flash of gold, ergo you're probably not going to be able to make out the blue in contrast to the gold (which is 3x brighter than the blue), and so you end up with a gold-light show.
So if you're only going to have a single-colored-light show, might as well go for the LED which gets you exponentially more bang for the participation buck.
Note: The above does not adjust for the luminescence of the Jitterbug's keypad.
/end backyard physics lesson
Quote from: Benny B on March 01, 2016, 09:42:57 AM
In theory, it might work; however, given the difference in lumens/candlepower, only if you had something along the lines of 90-100% participation.
Rough math using estimates found on the interwebs:
iPhone LED (non-flash mode): ~10 lumens
iPhone 4 Screen: ~400 nits (white screen at full brightness)
iPhone 5 Screen: ~500 nits
iPhone 6 Screen: ~550 nits
iPhone 4/4s screen: 5.6 sq.in.
iPhone 5 screen: 6.6 sq.in.
iPhone 6 screen: 9.4 sq.in.
Using the standard RPI weighted average of 25-50-25): 488 / 7.05 sq. in
1550 nits = 1 lumen/sq.in.
∴ Average iPhone Screen = 2.21 lumens
So the average iPhone white screen at 100% brightness puts out about 20% the light of the flash LED. But a (Marquette) blue-colored screen is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-30% intensity and gold about 70-80% intensity. So we're now talking about 5% (light output compared to LED light) on blue and 15% on gold.
Judging from the video, there was maybe 10% participation overall, perhaps? So even if you increased participation 10-fold, the gold lights would be fine, but consider that you're in a dark arena and your eyes won't adjust immediately after a flash of gold, ergo you're probably not going to be able to make out the blue in contrast to the gold (which is 3x brighter than the blue), and so you end up with a gold-light show.
So if you're only going to have a single-colored-light show, might as well go for the LED which gets you exponentially more bang for the participation buck.
Note: The above does not adjust for the luminescence of the Jitterbug's keypad.
/end backyard physics lesson
Yeah...I got the same answer he got.
Benny,
While I am grateful for the amount of effort you took to answer my question, I am very discouraged by your use of the RPI formula to determine if the idea deserved a chance. There are many other formulas you could have used which would have better shown the viability of the front screen.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 29, 2016, 03:48:23 PM
Still don't get it. Why does a fans age dictate how he can show his fanhood? I'm more embarrassed that he had to tell others to stand up!
Thank You, TAMUEagle...appreciate the support. I don't get it either. I am secure enough in myself to not give a damn about standing and cheering loudly amongst some less-than-enthusiastic people. I will never be a sit-on-my-hands alum, and if people expect me to be a placid, stoic alum zombie...well, I'm gonna disappoint them every time.
I don't attend Mass as much as I should. But I consider myself a decent Christian. I do believe that the meek shall inherit the Earth. But one time where meekness doesn't belong is at your beloved alma mater's home basketball game. And Jay Wright I believe did say after last year's game that our fans are maybe even "too nice."
I think what is "embarassing" is the notion that people should "act their age" at what are supposed to be lively, loud, fun events! Even more embarrassing when a little noise and upheaval can lead to a W for Marquette. Ask Wojo or any of the former players on staff if they want staid, placid alumni in the seats, or kooks like me exhorting the crowd onto its feet and, gasp, asking folks to cheer loudly.
Quote from: Benny B on March 01, 2016, 09:42:57 AM
In theory, it might work; however, given the difference in lumens/candlepower, only if you had something along the lines of 90-100% participation.
Rough math using estimates found on the interwebs:
iPhone LED (non-flash mode): ~10 lumens
iPhone 4 Screen: ~400 nits (white screen at full brightness)
iPhone 5 Screen: ~500 nits
iPhone 6 Screen: ~550 nits
iPhone 4/4s screen: 5.6 sq.in.
iPhone 5 screen: 6.6 sq.in.
iPhone 6 screen: 9.4 sq.in.
Using the standard RPI weighted average of 25-50-25): 488 / 7.05 sq. in
1550 nits = 1 lumen/sq.in.
∴ Average iPhone Screen = 2.21 lumens
So the average iPhone white screen at 100% brightness puts out about 20% the light of the flash LED. But a (Marquette) blue-colored screen is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-30% intensity and gold about 70-80% intensity. So we're now talking about 5% (light output compared to LED light) on blue and 15% on gold.
Judging from the video, there was maybe 10% participation overall, perhaps? So even if you increased participation 10-fold, the gold lights would be fine, but consider that you're in a dark arena and your eyes won't adjust immediately after a flash of gold, ergo you're probably not going to be able to make out the blue in contrast to the gold (which is 3x brighter than the blue), and so you end up with a gold-light show.
So if you're only going to have a single-colored-light show, might as well go for the LED which gets you exponentially more bang for the participation buck.
Note: The above does not adjust for the luminescence of the Jitterbug's keypad.
/end backyard physics lesson
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Quote from: PTM on February 29, 2016, 03:56:48 PM
Stop.
The game dictates when to stand, not an obnoxious pretty boy.
Obnoxious maybe was the wrong word. I just really, really love Marquette as a school and our basketball program has always been a huge source of pride for me. I only waved my arms "up" at key points in huge games. I'm sorry if that is inappropriate behavior. Harsh crowd here. "Pretty Boy?" Did you take a Logic class at MU? If anything, the pretty boys are the image conscious hand-sitters. And my beer gut would beg to differ with your label, lol.
Get the lights app ready tonight guys! Want to grab some nice shots on the court before intros :)
Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on March 01, 2016, 11:17:18 AM
Thank You, TAMUEagle...appreciate the support. I don't get it either. I am secure enough in myself to not give a damn about standing and cheering loudly amongst some less-than-enthusiastic people. I will never be a sit-on-my-hands alum, and if people expect me to be a placid, stoic alum zombie...well, I'm gonna disappoint them every time.
I don't attend Mass as much as I should. But I consider myself a decent Christian. I do believe that the meek shall inherit the Earth. But one time where meekness doesn't belong is at your beloved alma mater's home basketball game. And Jay Wright I believe did say after last year's game that our fans are maybe even "too nice."
I think what is "embarassing" is the notion that people should "act their age" at what are supposed to be lively, loud, fun events! Even more embarrassing when a little noise and upheaval can lead to a W for Marquette. Ask Wojo or any of the former players on staff if they want staid, placid alumni in the seats, or kooks like me exhorting the crowd onto its feet and, gasp, asking folks to cheer loudly.
There's a huge spectrum of fans out there that falls between the "obnoxious yellers" and the "stoic alum zombies." I'd be willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of those fans find both of the end-of-spectrum fans to be annoying. That said, few things can ruin a lively, loud, fun event faster than an obnoxious fan whose selfish presence is too lively, loud and "fun."
You're not "Warrior Man," are you?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 01, 2016, 11:41:21 AM
There's a huge spectrum of fans out there that falls between the "obnoxious yellers" and the "stoic alum zombies." I'd be willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of those fans find both of the end-of-spectrum fans to be annoying. That said, few things can ruin a lively, loud, fun event faster than an obnoxious fan whose selfish presence is too lively, loud and "fun."
You're not "Warrior Man," are you?
No, I was "ShootinOutWallsOfHeartache" with the next line in the Song being "bang, bang, I am the Warrior", so I guess you could say I am Warrior man. Felt in today's climate, not a good idea to have " shoot" in a username, though I defend 2nd Amendment rights, despite never owning a firearm.
Anyway, I agree with your "huge spectrum" analysis. I had to defend myself because I am usually the quiet, almost shy guy at parties and large gatherings. The one time I get loud is at Marquette games at pivotal moments in those contests, because I really believe that a loud, electric arena is just one tiny factor, among many, that helps the home team win. I don't think it's fair, or logical, to call me "selfish" (if you're placing me at the far end of the spectrum) when my motivation is just the opposite, to do my little part in getting our community's beloved alma mater over that fine line of winning and losing. And I'm not saying "Look what I did" in any way. Just love it when our entire crowd is into the game. And, absolutely, some older alums just can't, even maybe shouldn't stand and make noise. I'm thankful they are at games, and have been for all these years.!
Let's Ring out some serious Ahoya tonight while we ponder what indeed is a HOYA??!!!!!
Quote from: g0lden3agle on March 01, 2016, 10:40:31 AM
Benny,
While I am grateful for the amount of effort you took to answer my question, I am very discouraged by your use of the RPI formula to determine if the idea deserved a chance. There are many other formulas you could have used which would have better shown the viability of the front screen.
Hey now, don't go knocking me down just because I found a more relevant use for RPI.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 01, 2016, 11:24:57 AM
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My wife 'owns' all you guys. That was damn funny. And I've heard ALL her jokes. Well done, honey.
Quote from: jsglow on March 01, 2016, 12:13:03 PM
My wife 'owns' all you guys. That was damn funny. And I've heard ALL her jokes. Well done, honey.
Well, anyone who knows you has figured out that I must have a sense of humor. ;) :-* :-* :-*
If you're still trying to figure out who's the "blue light" and who's the "gold light" in this relationship....
Quote from: jsglow on March 01, 2016, 12:13:03 PM
My wife 'owns' all you guys. That was damn funny. And I've heard ALL her jokes. Well done, honey.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 01, 2016, 12:15:11 PM
Well, anyone who knows you has figured out that I must have a sense of humor. ;) :-* :-* :-*
Quote from: warriorchick on March 01, 2016, 12:15:11 PM
Well, anyone who knows you has figured out that I must have a sense of humor. ;) :-* :-* :-*
Quitting while I'm behind. :-[
Quote from: warriorchick on March 01, 2016, 12:15:11 PM
Well, anyone who knows you has figured out that I must have a sense of humor. ;) :-* :-* :-*
That's the first thing I said Saturday afternoon at Turners. ;D
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 01, 2016, 12:34:00 PM
That's the first thing I said Saturday afternoon at Turners. ;D
C'mon man. ;D
Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on March 01, 2016, 11:25:54 AM
Obnoxious maybe was the wrong word. I just really, really love Marquette as a school and our basketball program has always been a huge source of pride for me. I only waved my arms "up" at key points in huge games. I'm sorry if that is inappropriate behavior. Harsh crowd here. "Pretty Boy?" Did you take a Logic class at MU? If anything, the pretty boys are the image conscious hand-sitters. And my beer gut would beg to differ with your label, lol.
Pretty boy is the Scoop auto-correct for as s hole.
Quote from: PTM on March 02, 2016, 09:19:47 AM
Pretty boy is the Scoop auto-correct for as s hole.
If that is the case, I saw about 50 "Pretty Boys" last night raising their arms at a key late point in the game.
Break bread for em. -Archie Eversoul
Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on March 02, 2016, 11:35:20 AM
If that is the case, I saw about 50 "Pretty Boys" last night raising their arms at a key late point in the game.
Break bread for em. -Archie Eversoul
You mean when the whole crowd naturally stood up at key points in the game?
Quote from: warriorchick on March 01, 2016, 12:15:11 PM
Well, anyone who knows you has figured out that I must have a sense of humor. ;) :-* :-* :-*
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Quote from: PTM on March 02, 2016, 11:37:18 AM
You mean when the whole crowd naturally stood up at key points in the game?
There are some so-called "pretty boys" who stand and wave their arms as - or shortly before - the fans around them begin to stand and then honestly believe that it was their arm-waving that got the crowd to stand and make some noise...not the fact that it was a big possession in an exciting, nip-tuck game down the stretch.
Put me down for the obnoxious arm wavers.
The rest of you should care more.
Quote from: mujivitz06 on March 02, 2016, 11:55:50 AM
Put me down for the obnoxious arm wavers.
The rest of you should care more.
It took a long time for that crowd to get going last night, and I don't get it. Outstanding basketball game, and it was quiet for the majority of it.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2016, 12:04:27 PM
It took a long time for that crowd to get going last night, and I don't get it. Outstanding basketball game, and it was quiet for the majority of it.
Great game on many fronts.
Not perfect game, but a great game.
Seeing this thread pop up again is really impressive. Figure if the "Marquette Lights App for Saturday's game" is still getting posts, we must have convinced Butler to utilize Marquette Lights?
Quote from: PTM on March 02, 2016, 11:37:18 AM
You mean when the whole crowd naturally stood up at key points in the game?
Keep doing your thing, man. ZensColt is stubborn like a mule.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on March 02, 2016, 02:14:31 PM
Keep doing your thing, man. ZensColt is stubborn like a mule.
Some people just need to think they're important.
Criticizing a fan for being passionate. I wonder if the blue bloods have to deal with this
Quote from: PTM on March 02, 2016, 02:47:40 PM
Some people just need to think they're important.
Dude, what is your thing with me, man? Can you even read??? In a prior post I even stated that I take no sense of responsiblity for starting anything noise or standee wise. Also, if you have comprehension problems,there is help available. I only brought the story up to relate that I'm not firmly entrenched in the "sweater vest" camp, and that I'm actually loud and into the game like supportive students are. And I admitted that I overreacted when it was a pivotal point of a quiet weeknight game, and i felt the people around me should allow me to stand briefly and cheer wildly. I apologized, Dude and I wish I didn't have to apologize for caring so much! I even said I was embarrassed when I found it the guy was at every home game since McGuire. The whole point of my post was that I figured out that the old-timers (vests) really care about MU, just like me, and some are limited in how they can support the school we all love. I was wrong. I can admit when I'm wrong. You turned the whole post into a personal attack on me.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 02, 2016, 05:42:18 PM
Criticizing a fan for being passionate. I wonder if the blue bloods have to deal with this
This. Thanks. That's all I'm trying to say, you just nailed it for me.
Fair enough.
Thoughts on Ziconic?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 02, 2016, 05:42:18 PM
Criticizing a fan for being passionate. I wonder if the blue bloods have to deal with this
Being "an obnoxious fan" doesn't necessarily mean that someone is passionate and a fan who cheers without making a scene doesn't necessarily make someone unpassionate.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 03, 2016, 09:06:56 AM
Being "an obnoxious fan" doesn't necessarily mean that someone is passionate and a fan who cheers without making a scene doesn't necessarily make someone unpassionate.
Okay. But we're not talking about an obnoxious fan. Were talking about someone who stands and cheers during key moments of basketball games even when those around him don't. If that's all he's doing, than thats a passionate fan.
As for the second part of that sentence, yes and no. They can certainly be passionate, but its a different kind of passionate. Everyone can be whatever kind of fan they want to be, but I'd rather have the fans who show it.
I guess I just don't get it, I grew up in a family that goes all out at sporting events. Didn't matter how old we'd still get our jerseys on, paint our faces, and go cheer the team on whether that was the Packers, Brewers, or Marquette. Now I work for a university where our version of sweater vests stand and scream and do the yells at football games. I'm fine if other fans don't want to get to that level, its exhausting and you need to be able to put yourself out there, but I don't understand the need of some to judge those of us who do. Someone on here once told me it was embarrassing for me to wear a Marquette jersey to a game. That makes no sense to me.
Did they use MU lights for the Georgetown game (I could not make it)? If so, how did it go?
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 03, 2016, 01:01:15 PM
Did they use MU lights for the Georgetown game (I could not make it)? If so, how did it go?
Did Matty do a write-up on it?
Quote from: PTM on March 03, 2016, 01:19:48 PM
Did Matty do a write-up on it?
If he did I'm sure it sucked
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 02, 2016, 12:04:27 PM
It took a long time for that crowd to get going last night, and I don't get it. Outstanding basketball game, and it was quiet for the majority of it.
I thought the crowd was pretty good all night and was surprised by how many did the lights on their phone again.
Quote from: Heisenberg on March 03, 2016, 01:01:15 PM
Did they use MU lights for the Georgetown game (I could not make it)? If so, how did it go?
They did. It was actually way better than I expected. I thought only a few people would open it as there weren't any reminders (that I saw) saying it was happening again. I would say there were around 300-400 people (100 in the student section alone) with the app open during the video. Looked really cool!
Quote from: PTM on March 03, 2016, 07:12:30 AM
Fair enough.
Thoughts on Ziconic?
Cool. His trainer, John Shireffs, brings em along very slowly. I know that Zenyatta's first foal, Cozmic One, a colt by Bernardini, has been a disappointment so far. Shireffs still thinks Cz1 is a freak who hasn't figure out the game yet, as his workouts are sparkling. May be a "morning glory", kinda like the golfer who kills it on the practice tee only to shoot 120 on the course.
Ziconic, the colt by Tapit, has only raced once or twice, and he is progressing.The Mosses are great owners, they always do right by the horse, never rush them into tough spots, never pointing to the Derby with an undeveloped 3 yr old. I think Zenyatta didnt even race until she was 4. Now, if only Shireffs/Moss could get me and much of Scoop to temper our MU expectations, since our team is the 8th youngest in D1.
Were it not for ESPN forcing Z's Mike Smith to talk for 5 minutes while he was trying to warm her up, plus all the photographers getting close to her in the paddock, not to mention her horrible break (she did always break poorly, almost by design), she would have beaten BLAME (how's that for a mojo name of the horse to break big Z's streak of 19 wins?) in the 2010 Breeders Cup Classic. That said, "woulda, coulda, shoulda." Excuses. She was still, along with Ruffian, the greatest filly ever shod. And she may be bigger in defeat. The fact that she lost right at the wire, in a near photo finish, after how slow her early stride was, is a testament to her huge heart.
I am terrible at posting links, but if someone could post her YouTube "Zenyatta montage, all 19 wins" video, that would be cool.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 03, 2016, 09:06:56 AM
Being "an obnoxious fan" doesn't necessarily mean that someone is passionate and a fan who cheers without making a scene doesn't necessarily make someone unpassionate.
True dat.